On December - 19 - 2014
Vox Populi, our weekly live chat on the week’s events begins tonight at 7:00pm PST. Guest hosting tonight is the always witty and wise Choicelady! I hope to be popping in for a bit but don’t hesitate to start the holiday party when you arrive!
adlib 8 days ago
Howdy everyone – be sure to check in when you arrive or no eggnog for you! Hope you can stop by, AdLib. Not a holiday party without you!
choicelady
7 days ago
Ahem – in keeping with the ‘themes’ of the past few days, we ARE speaking of ‘enhanced eggnog’ of course…
choicelady
7 days ago
‘Evening, CL and AdLib (if you’re still here). A cup of enhanced eggnog to you. What do you think my t-shirt should say? I think I should “honor” the dickster and go with “Up your nose with a rubber hose.” What do you think?
glenn
7 days ago
Evening, glenn – lovely to see you! Here’s your cuppa eggnog. I love your T-shirt slogan indeed! How’s life in the Deep South tonight?
choicelady
7 days ago
glenn – may I add that I think your T-shirt slogan is in far better taste than what the dickster actually approved. Kudos, dear friend.
choicelady
7 days ago
‘Afternoon, Everybody. Eggnog????? In mid Summer? Believe it or not, the Aussies actually do the whole Winter Christmas thing here, in 100F heat!
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
PPO – I would love to be in Aussieland were it not summer at Christmas. I’m way too Northern Hemisphere for that. How are you?
choicelady
7 days ago
CL–Well, considering where the dickster’s nose is, because that where his face is, there’s really not much difference is there? But thanks for the kudos. And, it’s too damn cold here in the deep south. But now that the cold weather has settled in for winter, I’ll be complaining about the cold for the next couple of months, so you can feel free to ignore me when I complain about the weather. Only when I complain about the weather, mind you.
glenn
7 days ago
Hi, CL, doing OK. Lots of tragedy in Australia right now. but we’re getting over it.
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
glenn – LOL!! We have copious rain, we NEED the rain, and yes, we’re still complaining about it! One is never happy.
choicelady
7 days ago
Hey PPO! Hope you kept your cool in the heat!
glenn
7 days ago
hi all
Harleigh
7 days ago
PPO – tomorrow I’m joining Muslims in memory and anguish over what has happened there. YOU will be in my heart.
choicelady
7 days ago
Hey Harleigh–how are you?
glenn
7 days ago
Hey, glenn, aircon on full. no probs
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
Hi Harleigh! How are you?
choicelady
7 days ago
PPO – if you can turn the A/C up full tilt, do you pretend it’s northern winter on Christmas?
choicelady
7 days ago
Thanks, CL. #Illridewithyou
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
Hangin inthere. rough week for the aussies. WTH?
Harleigh
7 days ago
PPO–I was so sorry to hear of the tragedy in your beautiful country.
glenn
7 days ago
We are adopting and embracing #illridewith you. Bless you all for that!
choicelady
7 days ago
hi CL. good trip?
Harleigh
7 days ago
CL, nah, you need a Cold Store to do that, and I don’t happen to have one right now!
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
harleigh – yes, good trip. But glad as all get out to be home.
choicelady
7 days ago
Hi, Harleigh, SLM
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
PPO–Can you tell me more about #Illridewithyou?
glenn
7 days ago
Hi SLM! Harleigh and SLM – there is ‘enhanced eggnog’ awaiting you.
choicelady
7 days ago
mmmmm egg nog…..
Harleigh
7 days ago
Hey SLM–how’s it going?
glenn
7 days ago
Harleigh – ENHANCED eggnog…
choicelady
7 days ago
Hi all, and yummy egg nog…
sillylittleme
7 days ago
CL it will pair nicely with my most splendid smoke. LOL
Harleigh
7 days ago
I need a vote 0 do we enhance the eggnog with brandy or rum or something else?
choicelady
7 days ago
Harleigh–is that a cuban smoke?
glenn
7 days ago
Harleigh – and a puff, puff, puff, pass to you…
sillylittleme
7 days ago
glenn, it started the day of the gostage crisis. A muslim lady in Adelaide was on a bus and took off her hijab to avoid any abuse. The person beside her told her to put it back on and said she would walk with her to keep her safe. A Sydney woman heard about this and, because transpoert was snarled in Sydney, offered anybody who needed a ride home , Muslim or not. Then #illridewithyou went global.
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
Hiya Glenn – finally feeling the holiday spirit and you?
sillylittleme
7 days ago
PPO – can you tell us more about #illridewith you?
choicelady
7 days ago
CL–Depends on what the something else is.
glenn
7 days ago
glenn – YOUR call, dear heart!
choicelady
7 days ago
Sorry about the sperlng.
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
PPO! LOL!
choicelady
7 days ago
Pink – this has been an awful week for the innocent
sillylittleme
7 days ago
LOL I think its like good hand tended non tobacco.
Harleigh
7 days ago
PPO-That’s a wonderful heartwarming story, and perfect for the season of peace and goodwill toward men and women.
glenn
7 days ago
SLM – tomorrow the Muslim and interfaith communities in Sacramento are holding a vigil for all who have died so horrifically. It’s all we can do. It’s what we MUST do.
choicelady
7 days ago
SLM, so right. But it seems that the locals are pushing back against the Taliban and ISIL at last.
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
PPO – out of the horror, at least this has come.
choicelady
7 days ago
CL–Isn’t rum traditional for eggnog?
glenn
7 days ago
BRB
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
yep, and cinamon
Harleigh
7 days ago
glenn – brandy is my ‘go to’ for ‘enhancement’.
choicelady
7 days ago
I like it with dark rum and cloc
sillylittleme
7 days ago
clove
sillylittleme
7 days ago
Harleigh – nutmeg.
choicelady
7 days ago
SLM – CLOVE? wow never did that.
choicelady
7 days ago
Harleigh–I love cinnamon, too. And nutmeg, too. Could do without the clove, please.
glenn
7 days ago
cl – go lightly
sillylittleme
7 days ago
SLM – we are letting YOU pour your ‘enhancement’.
choicelady
7 days ago
cl – ahhh… currently smoking mine 
sillylittleme
7 days ago
So – does anyone see a connection between the Taliban horrors and the shooting of young, Black men in the US? I think I do, but I’d like your take on it.
choicelady
7 days ago
SLM – LOL!
choicelady
7 days ago
uh folks… if we put all that stuff in a quart of eggnog and 2 quarts of 100 proof booze the I think we just made a concoction for a bomb!
Harleigh
7 days ago
Harleigh – shhhhh. The RW is watching us!
choicelady
7 days ago
cl – just the nsa
sillylittleme
7 days ago
SLM try a toke of this—–
Harleigh
7 days ago
cl – a connection or a correlation?
sillylittleme
7 days ago
SLM – they actually aren’t. But I have been hacked by the extremists at work, so they’re whom I fear!
choicelady
7 days ago
SLM – that is one of those questions the answer to which eludes me.
choicelady
7 days ago
CL–For many years now, people on the left have been saying how much like the taliban our right wingers are. Yes, I see a connection. What I see is we have lost our humanity–our empathy for fellow human beings. It’s the constant harping on “the others” that really sets the stage for this kind of behavior by our police. All black people are criminals, just as all Muslims are bad.
glenn
7 days ago
I am more worried by the RWNJ nazis and torturers than anything in the ME
Harleigh
7 days ago
glenn – BAM. That is EXACTLY what I think is the common denominator.
choicelady
7 days ago
Harleigh – I agree, but PPO and Pakistanis have reason to fear them both!
choicelady
7 days ago
glenn – spot on
sillylittleme
7 days ago
PPO – is #illridewith you actually producing real action? It makes me cry when I see the name – it’s so wonderful!
choicelady
7 days ago
Hello Planeteers!
sabreen60
7 days ago
Hey Sabreen – I seeeeee you!
choicelady
7 days ago
Sabreen – come on down. We have ‘enhanced eggnog’ with rum or brandy or something from Harleigh to smoke. All up to you.
choicelady
7 days ago
We have to change it from home of the brave to home of the depraved… re: torture
sillylittleme
7 days ago
Harleigh–I think it’s all connected. But, the constant harping on “the others” is so reminiscent of the nazis, it makes my skin crawl. I had a two-day “conversation” with a right winger this week who would not admit that if it’s wrong for terrorists to torture; it’s wrong for the US to torture.
glenn
7 days ago
Hi Sabreen
sillylittleme
7 days ago
Hey everyone!
funksands
7 days ago
Hi Funk
sillylittleme
7 days ago
SLM – I so respect PBO for releasing this report, along with Dianne Feinstein et al. who usually isn’t this principled.
choicelady
7 days ago
FUNK! Come on down – we have ‘enhanced eggnog’ and anything you wish to smoke, the latter thanks to Harleigh.
choicelady
7 days ago
Hey Sabreen, hey funk. How are you both?
glenn
7 days ago
CL – I feel like being greedy. I’ll take a little of everything
sabreen60
7 days ago
Sabreen – ’tis the season. Anything you like is fine with us.
choicelady
7 days ago
cl – they need to set precedent by taking action
sillylittleme
7 days ago
Well that’s might kind of you…
funksands
7 days ago
glenn and all – doing well for a foxy-old-broad 
sabreen60
7 days ago
Sabreen–good to hear.
glenn
7 days ago
Sabren – just had a photo taken for re=registering as a lobbyist. Horrifying how old I looked! Not even foxy!
choicelady
7 days ago
Glenn, doing pretty well. Crazy times, but that’s okay
funksands
7 days ago
cl – I very much doubt that
sillylittleme
7 days ago
Choice, have you ever thought of having that tattoo removed?
funksands
7 days ago
I see kes and Murph are in the house!
choicelady
7 days ago
Hi all.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Hi Murph
sillylittleme
7 days ago
funk – you mean the one on my forehead? You think that’d help?
choicelady
7 days ago
funk–so have a little enhanced eggnog, vent a little, and maybe it won’t seem so crazy.
glenn
7 days ago
Hey, kids! How’s your weekend starting?
kesmarn
7 days ago
Just give it some thought
funksands
7 days ago
Hey Murph, Hey Kes
glenn
7 days ago
Hi kes, Murph – lovely to have you here. Eggnog in all varieties awaits you at your pleasure.
choicelady
7 days ago
Hi Kes – very pleasant and yours
sillylittleme
7 days ago
Hiya Murph!
sabreen60
7 days ago
cl – is harleigh out of the chronic?
sillylittleme
7 days ago
I shattered a giant bottle of gin in my car today. Could’ve have started better
funksands
7 days ago
I think I’m finally getting a grip on the Christmas shopping…
kesmarn
7 days ago
And kes – how goes it?
sabreen60
7 days ago
Kes–always a good start to the weekend with VOX.
glenn
7 days ago
funk – gin? Why in the car?
choicelady
7 days ago
glenn – hear, hear
sillylittleme
7 days ago
SLM chronic?
Harleigh
7 days ago
Funk, if you get pulled over that aroma is gonna cause you to do a little ‘splainin’
kesmarn
7 days ago
CL, YES! #Illridewithyou is camenting relations with all moderate Muslims. they even cooperated with the police during the seige and gave details of the gunman and the fact that he had been ostracized by the mainstream. He was the equivalent of the WestboroBaptist mob, sending vile letters to the families of deceased Army guys in Afghanistan.
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
Costco run for a holiday party this weekend. Lucky the other bottles didn’t break
funksands
7 days ago
Ahh, CL I bet you’re a knock-out!
sabreen60
7 days ago
harleigh – never heard that term?
sillylittleme
7 days ago
You know whats awesome? I called Costco and told them what happened and they’re going to replace it for me no charge.
funksands
7 days ago
PPO – oh wow, that is WONDERFUL! Good for them. Good for all of YOU.
choicelady
7 days ago
Sabreen – thank you, dear. I’m…OK.
choicelady
7 days ago
Doing well, Sabreen. How about yourself? And Howdy to glenn and anyone else I may have missed there…
kesmarn
7 days ago
funk – that’s pretty amazing of Costco!
choicelady
7 days ago
May I offer a word of explanation to one and all….I have been spending a lot of time at another site- a new one- helping them to get up and running. My absence from the Planet has been for lack of time.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
I think I’ll try that with Costco… “I – uh – broke this bottle of gin…”
kesmarn
7 days ago
SLM – nope, whatsit meann?? LOL
Harleigh
7 days ago
funk/cl – that’s how businesses should treat their customers
sillylittleme
7 days ago
harleigh – just what you think it means…
sillylittleme
7 days ago
PPO–I swear, if my kids weren’t here, I’d move to Australia in a heartbeat. What a civilized country! I used to think people in my country had empathy for each other, but I lost more and more hope for my fellow Americans every day. Present company excepted, of course.
glenn
7 days ago
Murph – can you let us know what’s going on and how to access it? ALL good sites deserve our attention!
choicelady
7 days ago
SLM, doesn’t happen much anymore
funksands
7 days ago
Murph… are you lending aid and comfort to the competition? 😆
kesmarn
7 days ago
glenn – that’s why Canada is on my radar – civilized behavior toward others.
choicelady
7 days ago
BTW watch Speakers Corner on Dec 21. Those of you who read my article on Dad asked about my Mom. Well, I’ve something in the pipeline. It’s a video. Sorry if it is a bit long, but I hope you all enjoy.
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
funk – you can say that again
sillylittleme
7 days ago
Looking forward to that very much, PPO!
kesmarn
7 days ago
CL–Canada, too.
glenn
7 days ago
PPO – I will love to see the video. Your article was amazing.
choicelady
7 days ago
Glenn, Aussies have a dark side too. But otherwise you are correct. Wonderful country and people
funksands
7 days ago
Pink, looking forward to it! I really enjoyed your last offering.
funksands
7 days ago
The site is called Yabberz….very differnt from the Planet. I like it but for different reasons than I like the Planet.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
funk – don’t we all have a dark side? But the US should be the last nation to carry it to extremes. We need to deal – REALLY deal – with our heritage of violence against people of color.
choicelady
7 days ago
Murph–is it up and running now? Can you give us a little more info?
glenn
7 days ago
Murph – thanks – is it up yet?
choicelady
7 days ago
murph – I really had a hard time navigating it the couple of times I visited
sillylittleme
7 days ago
Anyone see PBO’s presser today?
sabreen60
7 days ago
Sabreen – nope. Missed it but heard really good things about it.
choicelady
7 days ago
sabreen – recap please
sillylittleme
7 days ago
Thanks, glenn. Of course, Australia has its share of RWNJs and bigots, but they are pulling their heads in just now. Come on Down Under and I’ll throw another shrimp on the barbie for you!
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
funk–I thought the whole idea of being human was to overcome your dark side, not pander to it. That’s what seems to be happening right now here.
glenn
7 days ago
PPO – be right down. Nothing I like more than shrimp on the barbie!
choicelady
7 days ago
Yabberz.com is in beta and as SLM points out navigating is tricky. It is unlike any other site because it is not article based but comment based. I plan to split my time between Yabberz and Planet with a little Daily Kos once the site is stabilized.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Sabreen–the one where he called on only women and the foxbots’ heads exploded?
glenn
7 days ago
Glenn, you would think
funksands
7 days ago
glenn – is this the last gasp of people who desire separatism? I sure hope so.
choicelady
7 days ago
cl – may it spread worldwide
sillylittleme
7 days ago
Murph, “comment based”? Does it collect comments from other sites and then post it on its own site? Explain a bit
funksands
7 days ago
Fox right now is having a discusion on “The Year of the Emperor”- they are freaked out about Obama not knuckling under.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
PPO–for sure, if I decide to go to Australia again, you’ll be first on the list to know. Second will be a friend with whom I taught in Guatemala. Still in touch with her sparadocally, would definitely look her up after you!
glenn
7 days ago
murph – they are obviously insane
sillylittleme
7 days ago
Murph, not bad for “an incompetent lightweight who is in over his head”.
funksands
7 days ago
glenn – ahhhh – that explains the COMMENTS I heard on MSNBC about women in the media. I think that rocks! I got trashed by a local political reporter for asking a politician questions at the local Press Club. So the biases are far and wide.
choicelady
7 days ago
Funk….it is a lot like the Planet in that main articles are generated by members but a point and activity algorithm keeps the most active conversions at the top of the threads and it has a very pliable navigation system. The two folks putting this together are brilliant when it comes to coding.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Over at Crooks and Liars, they keep insisting that PBO is a lightweight.
choicelady
7 days ago
It was really good. First of all he called on ALL women. The guys on the front row threw a hissy fit after the presser. The press secy released a statement that women are often over looked although they cover the President day in and day out. He did not call on ONE TV “journalist” The topics covered were Cuba, Sony, Torture Report, Race etc. I think you may be able to watch it over at the Obama Diary. I cannot begin to do it justice. Lets just say he dropped serveral mics today.
The topics covered were Cuba, Sony, Torture Report, Race etc. I think you may be able to watch it over at the Obama Diary. I cannot begin to do it justice. Lets just say he dropped serveral mics today.sabreen60
7 days ago
CL, really? Odd
funksands
7 days ago
Sabreen – HOORAY for this president!!!
choicelady
7 days ago
Murph–I think that our rwnj brigade thought that PBO would quake in his boots because of the midterms. I’m glad to see him come out swinging.
glenn
7 days ago
funk – yup. I am a member of the press club, and the old grump can’t stand me because I make points that leave his mouth hanging open. Not pretty I might add…
choicelady
7 days ago
CL–Nothing like women doing the exact same thing me do to make some men’s heads explode, right?
glenn
7 days ago
I think Obama is going to spend the next two years in very sophisticated pay back. The media and GOP and cowardly dems better get used to it.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Sorry guys, but I gotta go and get the comestibles for Christmas. Please be safe and healthy over the Christmas . Oh, I’ll answer anything you want to ask after you watch the video. There will be quite a few, like “How did they do the special effects of Dad only having 3 fingers in the ‘Bounty” scene with Marlon. All will be revealed! ‘bye for now
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
It would be a wonderful thing if anonymous or wikileaks would publish the entire un-redacted 6,800 page CIA Torture report. Talk about putting a light on cockroaches! Put a cash bounty on the identified heads of all the torturer cowards! Publish their names and addresses with pictures including their famblys also too! Cowardly unmerikan asshats.
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2014/12/09/are-you-a-nazi-a-ten-question-quiz-for-conservatives/
Are You A Nazi?: A Ten Question Quiz For Conservatives
This short, ten question quiz is designed to help conservatives find out how much of the American Nazi Party platform they agree with.
Are You A Nazi?: A Ten Question Quiz For ConservativesThis short, ten question quiz is designed to help conservatives find out how much of the American Nazi Party platform they agree with.
Harleigh
7 days ago
Sabreen – I heard he said that he thought what Sony did was unnecessary
sillylittleme
7 days ago
glenn- that is spot on. How DARE the president treat women as equals!
choicelady
7 days ago
Sabreen, I like this new and feisty Obama. It’s going to be an interesting next two years. When he talks about not caving to bullies, he’s talking about more than Kim Jong-un.
kesmarn
7 days ago
Gosh, I hope his press conference doesn’t make the MSM cover him poorly.
funksands
7 days ago
SO long PPO and Happy Holidays to you and yoiurs.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Happy Holidays Pink
sillylittleme
7 days ago
That would be a stark contrast to the kid gloves they’ve used so far, funk.
kesmarn
7 days ago
Harleigh, so the summary is still the only thing that’s been released?
funksands
7 days ago
PPO – happy hols to you and yours! Have a lovely and joyous time. Great to see you and hope you’re here next week!
choicelady
7 days ago
Happy Holidays, PPO!
kesmarn
7 days ago
Night PPO Merry Christmas to you. Looking forward to your video.
glenn
7 days ago
Kes, I’d hate to see the 6 years of measured, sober coverage of the President suffer because of today
funksands
7 days ago
Funk thats all we get is a redacted summary that makes little sense.
Harleigh
7 days ago
Harleigh – that’s pretty heavy stuff, thank you!
choicelady
7 days ago
Hmmmm
funksands
7 days ago
Exactly, funk. He should be a little more deferential to the people who’ve treated him so kindly.
kesmarn
7 days ago
Harleigh – I think you can get the whole report via some Congressional offices?
choicelady
7 days ago
funk–me too. Because you know how left leaning that ole MSM is! 
glenn
7 days ago
kes – LOL! Yes, this president needs to be more kind to his detractors!
choicelady
7 days ago
It was interesting watching the MSM folks see the women print journalists get respect from the President and so obviously snub them.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Funk you made a funny 
You know the MSM refused to cover his ACA speech and another one (can’t remember right now). I hope he never calls on them again.
You know the MSM refused to cover his ACA speech and another one (can’t remember right now). I hope he never calls on them again.sabreen60
7 days ago
The MSM can go fuck itself
sillylittleme
7 days ago
Sabreen – that’s a very good point! I hope he shorts them for the next two years, too!
choicelady
7 days ago
I loved the way he only responded to questions from women. Quite a contrast from the way women are usually treated by so many pudnuts.
kesmarn
7 days ago
Anyone know if the press conf. is online anywhere?
choicelady
7 days ago
Al Jazeera America has a story tonight that inquiries to the WH press office about the manuver at the Press Conference have been met with the President intends to communicate with those whose record of honesty merits special attention.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
You know its funny, I watched the whole thing and didn’t realize any of this until afterward.
funksands
7 days ago
I almost choked CL… the repubs are now nazi’s! It’s in their platform! They are admitting and defending torture. It’s probably all obamas fault and all those uppity young black men getting themselves killed!
Harleigh
7 days ago
Sabreen, do you think the MSM will refuse to air the State of the Union address? Wouldn’t surprise me.
kesmarn
7 days ago
“Yes, you in the back; Sports Illustrated”
funksands
7 days ago
Count on Al Jazeera to speak to the ISSUE.
choicelady
7 days ago
Choice…at MSNBC you might be able to see it.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
murph – if that’s true, then kudos to him.
sillylittleme
7 days ago
Harleigh- it was only a matter of time before they ‘came out of the closet’ on their affinity.
choicelady
7 days ago
Kes- Obama is in news making mode and he will be a hot ticket for SOTU.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Here’s an example of how “left-leaning” the msm is. When Dianne Feinstein was on CNN, wolf blitzer asked her, “Don’t you think the RELEASE of this torture report puts American lives at risk?” Yet when the dickster was on mtp, no one asked him how many American lives he put at risk with the ACTUAL torture! Bunch of douchebags!
glenn
7 days ago
Murph and the women actually asked news worthy questions, for the most part. At the end of the presser some guy hollered “have you made any resolutions” – a really important question to ask. Actually the problem I have the WHPC is that they have become infortainers and self absored, IMO.
sabreen60
7 days ago
Murph – I’ll take a look.
choicelady
7 days ago
harleigh – those criminals, those thugs, of which none of them were
sillylittleme
7 days ago
Good point, glenn!
kesmarn
7 days ago
You tell ’em Glenn. I like this side of you.
funksands
7 days ago
glenn – excellent point!
choicelady
7 days ago
Any nation that defends it interests via torture is not a nation worth defending.
funksands
7 days ago
kes – if wouldn’t surprise me either.
sabreen60
7 days ago
funk – AMEN!
choicelady
7 days ago
funk – that’s at least one of our founding principles or was it?
sillylittleme
7 days ago
Murph–The President began his press conference by saying that his press secretary (his name eludes me) had given him a list of who had been naughty or nice. And that’s why he called on the women.
glenn
7 days ago
funk – adding — charging them with treason would be appropriate
sillylittleme
7 days ago
funk and all – the ONLY point to torture, historically and today, is to incite major fear of the aggressor. It has nothing to do with ‘getting truth’ which is does not do.
choicelady
7 days ago
glenn – that’s cute
sillylittleme
7 days ago
CL – It’s almost like they reprinted Mein Kampf translated to bagerese.
Harleigh
7 days ago
glenn – that’s funny! Good list of good folks – and the ones deserving coal (ash)…
choicelady
7 days ago
Harleigh – 
sillylittleme
7 days ago
SLM, absolutely. Individual prosecution via Nuremburg-style trial at the UN would be a good start in scrubbing the blood stains from our hands.
funksands
7 days ago
Harleigh – remember that the Dominionists of C Street actually BROUGHT unreconstructed Nazis to America, so it’s not even a stretch here.
choicelady
7 days ago
One of the best comments I heard today is that Obama intends to join with Nancy Pelosi and the Progressives in the House to deliver votes for Boehner when he makes a good deal with them since he cannot get a majority of his own caucus….and then he intends to join with Reid and Warren to make sure his vetos are upheld.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Murph OT – but did you read the statement that McCulloch gave about knowing witness # 40 was lying?
sabreen60
7 days ago
Harleigh, just think…when Jeb runs, Dick Cheney has another chance to be Bush’s brain and re-open the torture chambers at Gitmo.
kesmarn
7 days ago
funk – the hague awaits
sillylittleme
7 days ago
Sabreen–according to foxsocallednews, the questions the women asked were all “softball” questions, dontcha know?
glenn
7 days ago
Glenn I loved that comment, naughty and nice.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Sabreen – SERIOUSLY he knew #40 was lying????
choicelady
7 days ago
glenn – They didn’t try to ask gotcha questions. They asked questions that required factual and informed answers.
sabreen60
7 days ago
I saw that too, Sabreen. Shouldn’t McCulloch be prosecuted for that? But who prosecutes the prosecutor?
kesmarn
7 days ago
fucksnews sucks
sillylittleme
7 days ago
Sabreen – women are like that. They ask serious questions. How DARE they?
choicelady
7 days ago
kes – the FEDS prosecute the prosecutors.
choicelady
7 days ago
Those sneaky evil WOMEN!
Harleigh
7 days ago
And I hope they do, C’lady!
kesmarn
7 days ago
Sabreen…40 has a history of being a police car chaser and a source of false testimony. It took the media investigators two days to make it clear that she was a bad witness start to finih.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
cl – women aren’t smart enough to be taken serious, that’s why they have the type of female candidates that they have…
sillylittleme
7 days ago
Obama rubbed salt in the wounds by taking an extra 5 minutes to talk to a reporter about her new gig launching a magazine in Belgium. It was priceless
funksands
7 days ago
Murph – #40 needs to be prosecuted for perjury. No exception.
choicelady
7 days ago
funk – ok, I’m sure it will be up on Dkos soon
sillylittleme
7 days ago
#40 is like really ugly also too.
Harleigh
7 days ago
Side note….I have been astounded at how the Press….allow Boehner to just walk out when he does not like a line of questioning and to avoid answerng any question with impunity.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
is it a form of suborning perjory if you know you’re putting someone who will lie under oath?
sillylittleme
7 days ago
I’ve read that #40 is bipolar and very disturbed — has been for a while.
kesmarn
7 days ago
Harleigh – I seriously don’t care what she LOOKS like if that’s what you mean?
choicelady
7 days ago
LOL CL I was being facetious.
Harleigh
7 days ago
SLM – yes, that would be the case, so the DA needs to watch his back with the Feds.
choicelady
7 days ago
Harleigh – she’s ugly to the BONE for sure!
choicelady
7 days ago
slm – exactly. I heard a lawyer say the same thing. McCulloch can be disbarred and charged for knowingly putting a liar on the stand OR not telling the Grand Jury whenever he found out she was a liar.
sabreen60
7 days ago
Murph, they expect nothing from Boehner, but have to interact with him per usual to keep the horse race false equivalency angle going.
funksands
7 days ago
I can’t believe a real DA would put a whackdoodle on the stand to lie. WTF?
Harleigh
7 days ago
he should be disbarred for certain
sillylittleme
7 days ago
harleigh – so agree
sillylittleme
7 days ago
McCulloch said she wasn’t even in the area.
sabreen60
7 days ago
Harleigh – the DA acted as defense attorney not as prosecutor.
choicelady
7 days ago
They aren’t going to do a damn thing to that prosecutor or that juror
funksands
7 days ago
funk–thanks, and I agree with your statement. As I said before, I had this argument with a rwnj about this whole thing. Kept asking him what makes us any better than the terrorists when we torture. All we have done is to reduce ourselves to their level. These guys can’t even construct a good argument; it’s like arguing with a paper bag. In one of his replies to me, he told me that the President Obama’s “apology tour” was what made the terrorists so bold. After I ripped him a new one about the “apology tour” nonsense by pointing out that every credible news organization had labeled that meme “false”, “pants on fire”, “4 pinocchios”, I also had to point out to him that the tour he was referencing happened almost eight years after 9/11/01. They’re just so consumed with hatred, they can’t even get recent history straight, let alone history.
glenn
7 days ago
your right Funk
Harleigh
7 days ago
funk – don’t think for a second that the feds won’t swoop down on the prosecutor. I brought a charge against a NE city’s PD and got an investigation and WON it.
choicelady
7 days ago
funk…where is the disrespect they so readily give the President…where are the hard followups.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
funk – didn’t say I got an FBI investigation – we changed the entire PD because of it.
choicelady
7 days ago
Glenn, the RWNJ tower relies on every brick remaining in place. Get a RWNJ to use introspection and admit that they’re wrong about 1 thing, and the whole tower starts to crumble. They CANT admit they’re wrong to you. It’s too dangerous.
funksands
7 days ago
The press always rolled over for Dubya, Cheney and Rumsfeld too. They were craven lap-dogs back then.
kesmarn
7 days ago
glenn – he came to Boston to see Deval Patrick off, and you should have read some of the comments. Troll territory
sillylittleme
7 days ago
glenn – Isn’t it interesting how Republicans who justify torture and/or refuse to call it torture are so up in arms about what Cuba represents.
sabreen60
7 days ago
Well CL I hope you or somebody could go clean up that mess in MO. It just really stinks.
Harleigh
7 days ago
Murph, the press knows that if they aren’t nice to GOP, they’ll get blocked from access. Bush made this very clear during his terms
funksands
7 days ago
Harleigh – the AG will do it!
choicelady
7 days ago
Dems are too reasonable. They still view interacting with the press as something they’re obligated to do.
funksands
7 days ago
Glenn- I am astounded at how absolutely bold the Bush era defenders remain in re. to the torture report.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
funk – I think PBO just fired a shot across the MSM bow today. No more coddling…
choicelady
7 days ago
murph – they’re a sick lot
sillylittleme
7 days ago
Sabreen, Murph–McCulloch admitted that he knew witness #40 was lying. And, of course, witness #40 was mentioned at least 20 times on insannity’s show as showing how “right” darrenwilson was to shoot.
glenn
7 days ago
cl – I hope he does some things that really count
sillylittleme
7 days ago
Funk….well Obama appears to be about to give the press a little bit of GOP treatment.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Before the midterms, the president fought for democracy by including the GOP. Now? Not so much. He’s not changed – they have.
choicelady
7 days ago
SLM…they are.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Smart. Nothing to lose at this point.
funksands
7 days ago
Well, kids, it’s time for me to catch the 11 p.m. news here — which is focused mostly on the major national security question of the day: “Will we have a white Christmas?” — and call it a day. Hope you all have a great weekend!
kesmarn
7 days ago
you too Kes
sillylittleme
7 days ago
Obama’s Cuba plan was a totally fucking brilliant plan that totally blindsided the baggers.
Harleigh
7 days ago
kes – well, WILL you have a White Christmas? I hope it is lovely and that you have a wonderful time. Love to you and yours!
choicelady
7 days ago
Folks I can’t stay long. Very tired and too much to do. Happy Holidays to all of y’all. Spread a little cheer to others as well plz
funksands
7 days ago
Good night Kes…btw…where is ad lib…2nd week in a row MIA
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
nite kes
Harleigh
7 days ago
funk – the same to yyou
sillylittleme
7 days ago
Happy holidays to you, too, funk – lovely to have you here. Take a ‘to go’ on the ‘enhanced eggnog’.
choicelady
7 days ago
He’s alive and well, Murph, but life is bit hectic for him right at the moment. I know he’ll be back to Vox soon, though. B’bye all again!
kesmarn
7 days ago
Murph – AdLib is a bit under the weather. He’s going to be fine but not up to three hours here. He sends his love and best wishes for a GREAT holiday to all.
choicelady
7 days ago
Good night funk….I am glad to have heard from you tonight.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Thanks Kes and Choice for the Ad Lib update
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
B’bye kes!
choicelady
7 days ago
Night kes.
sabreen60
7 days ago
Happy Holidays Funk and kes 
sabreen60
7 days ago
TOPIC: ANY THOUGHTS ON SONY AND S KOREA?
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
does this lampshade on my head make my ass look fatter? LOL
Harleigh
7 days ago
Nah Harleigh. It kinda balances out your body 
sabreen60
7 days ago
Murph – I seem to be alone in thinking SONY did a good thing putting people’s safety ahead of profit. Yes, I know theaters declined the film, but just in case – and you never know – they did the right thing pulling it now. I suspect they will find other ways to get it out there but LATER.
choicelady
7 days ago
Harleigh – yes. Yes it does.
choicelady
7 days ago
I think they shoul mak a movie about CEO Hollywood pussies! Caving to Kim kardashian maybe…. but fatboy Kim Il??!!! oh jeez. That would embarass me!
Harleigh
7 days ago
cl – I think it was an empty threat and they were trying to downplay the leaked emails
sillylittleme
7 days ago
I am with you choice…in addition there were not many that were going to show it anyway…however, I want a third party to buy the film and launch it as a Pay Per View…On Demand….I think it might be a bigger hit that way than it would have been in the theater.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
SLM – maybe, but in this day and age…one really cannot assume violence won’t happen.
choicelady
7 days ago
harleigh – lol two times in a row and I agree with Sabreen
sillylittleme
7 days ago
Murph – I agree. Though I will NOT be one paying on demand!
choicelady
7 days ago
funk–it would be fine with me if the gop blocked the press. Who is going to spew their hatred for them? Is it just me, or has it gotten so one-sided lately that it’s laughable? Or pathetic? Or just plain sad? How many Democrats have you seen lately pushing back at the dickster about torture? Where are the Dems? Or maybe I”m missing it because the “left-leaning” msm just doesn’t report on Dems? Funk this “new side” of me is because I’m so pissed off. And, I don’t want to be angry all the time, but one can only see the dickster so many times bragging, yes bragging, about torture before one loses it. And, yes, Sabreen, isn’t is interesting, once again, that it’s not okay for Cuba to torture, but okay for the US? I’m seriously hoping that because, lately, the republicans have been coming up against their own hypcrosy so often that the American people finally wise up and VOTE! ,
glenn
7 days ago
Murph – My initial thought was Sony should not have made a movie about killing a sitting head of state. If they are some other country made a movie showing PBO killed, how would we feel. Then after giving it some more thought it was WTF. Hollywood made movies ridiculing Hitler. But at any rate if Sony was bold enough to make the movie they damn well should have had the courage to stand by it and not cave.
sabreen60
7 days ago
Over on Twitter some Asian activists are calling the film ‘racist’. I am not one to wade in usually, but defending Kim Il Un (I think that’s it) is NOT a wise move here! Someone who killed a relative and fed him to pigs is so sick it’s not racist at all to call him OUT.
choicelady
7 days ago
Murph – I think the whole film is in horrid taste, but this man is beyond comprehension.
choicelady
7 days ago
‘night Kes. You have a good weekend as well.
glenn
7 days ago
Sab….World Police featured a plot to knock out the current S. Korean dictator’s dad and took on radical Islam as well…outrageous and very funny…4 yers ago
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Murph – it’s not even North Koreans I would worry about but our hometown lone wolves who’d use it as an excuse to blow up or shoot up theaters.
choicelady
7 days ago
glenn – that’s a very cogent argument, thank you!
choicelady
7 days ago
Glenn….I get your anger and join you in it.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Violence is a possibility. But do we really want dictators controlling what we produce. Suppose they don’t like a particular documentary or a news broadcast?
sabreen60
7 days ago
Choice….true about the nutty but this development is very bad for free expression.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
I don’t think LIL kimy Il could strike here.
Harleigh
7 days ago
CL and Murph–thank you.
glenn
7 days ago
Murph and Sabreen – that is all worth thinking about, but until we can get a handle on who is REALLY behind the threats, for the moment, caution seems wise. I cannot abide the idea of more deaths no matter who is doing it. Once we figure it out, I think we can relax more and return to the issues of free expression, but they are NOT at the moment my first priority. Preventing harm IS.
choicelady
7 days ago
Harleigh–as CL says, it’s not lil kimmy but perhaps our own home-grown nutjobs.
glenn
7 days ago
Choice – there are risks here no doubt but giving in means giving up does it not.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
If Kim starts blowing up faux… studious…. then….. HEY! we could call NK and splain to dear leader the faux is badmouthing him…. gee. Hope nothing bad happens to those liars.
Harleigh
7 days ago
glenn – if it turns out that NK is not behind the SONY threat, I won’t be surprised to find the perps in the USA. Yes – I think this is a step toward shutting up liberals by issuing such threats to other things. That’s why discretion until proof is so important.
choicelady
7 days ago
Murph – see my comment to glenn. I think it’s a temporary tactic, not a rout.
choicelady
7 days ago
I caught a segment on Rachel’s show tonight. She talked about the book “The Satanic Verses”. Anyone familiar?
sabreen60
7 days ago
Speaking of free expression, have you all read about the professor who wrote an op-ed piece in a non-profit journal, entitled “I Hate Repubicans”. And, of course, right wing heads are exploding becuase, athough she’s entitled to her “free expression”, we can’t tolerate intolerance. Kid you not.
glenn
7 days ago
Harleigh – that’s just BAD ASS!
choicelady
7 days ago
sabreen – ya and it was awful. I call it anti-prose
sillylittleme
7 days ago
Sabreen – oh, yes – very familiar! And no, no one gave in. But that was another time. Things have changed, and it’s not NK I fear. It’s our own ‘pistol packin’ mamas’ here in the US of A.
choicelady
7 days ago
CL sometimes it is fun to think in a evil way! LOL
Harleigh
7 days ago
glenn – I saw that! They can say anything. SHE can’t cuz she’s librul…
choicelady
7 days ago
Harleigh – you bad, bro!
choicelady
7 days ago
Sab…Solmon Rushdie was put under a death sentence by an Iranian religious court for the Satanic Verses…he hid and outlasted them.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Sabreen–Wasn’t Satanic Verses the book published by an Iranian (can’t remember his name) and the mullahs in Iran put out a “contract” on him? Basically, they said he “dissed” Islam, so he should be killed. Last I heard he was living in London.
glenn
7 days ago
glenn – In These Times changed the headline on that story, BTW.
choicelady
7 days ago
Glenn…Solmon Rushdie was put under a death sentence by an Iranian religious court for the Satanic Verses…he hid and outlasted them.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Murph–jinx–except you remembered his name.
glenn
7 days ago
Murph – Rachel said he was in hiding for 3 years. But he still gets death threats.
sabreen60
7 days ago
glenn – it was a fatwah, yes, and it still holds. But Rushdie is alive, living more openly, and well.
choicelady
7 days ago
Rushdie appears regularly on Maher.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
And yet those stupid baggers will listen to that brave icon of their’s, Ted ‘Poopy Pants’ Nugent.
Harleigh
7 days ago
Sabreen – I had a book that outsold Satanic Verses at one store. As I was gloating about it – I got a death threat from a nutjob over it. Beware of your arrogance!
choicelady
7 days ago
CL–thanks for giving me the correct terminology.
glenn
7 days ago
Harleigh – POOPY PANTS!!! That is PERFECT!!!
choicelady
7 days ago
Har –
sabreen60
7 days ago
Glad to hear Rushdie is more out in the open now.
glenn
7 days ago
Well folks, I’m all in. Have a great holiday and eat a lot of wonderful food
sabreen60
7 days ago
Okay folks, I’ve vented enough for one night. Thank you all for listening. I hope everyone has a great weekend. Peace!
glenn
7 days ago
Good night sabren.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
‘Night Sabreen. I’m following you out the door!
glenn
7 days ago
CL is right, the local RWNJ are almost 1935 nazi’s. I won’t be long unless we really get out the vote in 2016
Harleigh
7 days ago
Sabreen – lovely to see you, and have a GREAT holiday!
choicelady
7 days ago
Nite All – I’m following Glenn out the door as well
sillylittleme
7 days ago
Good night and happy Christmas, glenn! Also SLM – have a lovely holiday!
choicelady
7 days ago
Oops, almost forgot. Thanks for the enhanced eggnog CL!
glenn
7 days ago
Good night Glenn
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
nitey nite guys!
Harleigh
7 days ago
Choice..are you still here? Harleigh…still here?
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
yep
Harleigh
7 days ago
I’m here and so is Harleigh – all three of us!
choicelady
7 days ago
Harleigh I wouild welcome your insight re. Yabberz- I can tell you more if you like….the site is interesting for many reasons
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Murph – what would be the outcome if the film had been released and people were killed? I just don’t trust that cannot happen anymore.
choicelady
7 days ago
Choice- same comment re. Yabberz. You both are very insightful and blogger experienced at a high level.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
The next 2 years is gonna be a hoot even with Bachmann gone I think Joni Ernst will be even more whacked.
Harleigh
7 days ago
OK murph
Harleigh
7 days ago
Murph – who is ON Yabberz? I’m interested if they’re good and thoughtful commentators or even highly diverse.
choicelady
7 days ago
Harleigh – I’m not sure I have room in my sense of humor for Joni…
choicelady
7 days ago
Choice and Harleigh…there are a number of lively and interesting commentors. There are also a number of right wingers. The site has found a way to corral bad behavior and to shape interaction. It is an interesting experiiment.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
That is intriguing. I will take a look. How do we access it?
choicelady
7 days ago
It’s amazing they can even believe what comes out of there mouths. How do we get there to it?
Harleigh
7 days ago
Choice…yabberz.com
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Well…give Yabberz a look if you are willing…let me know if you are going there and what screen name you will be using.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
I probably will stick with my OTHER name – churchlady320. It gets better attention (save from atheists) than choicelady.
choicelady
7 days ago
Well I am calling it a night as well. Best to you both. Have a Kule Yule.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Have a lovely holiday, dear Murph. Hope you have a lot of fun and relaxation! Great to see you. I will check out yabberz.com tomorrow.
choicelady
7 days ago
Choice I will look for churchlady320.. I am murphthesurf3 there (real creative!)
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
I’d NEVER have guessed it was YOU…
choicelady
7 days ago
OK mon… I bookmarked it… i’ll still be harleigh.
Harleigh
7 days ago
Harleigh – always glad you’re Harleigh!
choicelady
7 days ago
LOL that’s why I luv you! I don’t have to pretend! LOL
Harleigh
7 days ago
Just be yourself I always say. Even when I’m adopting a pseudonym myself!
choicelady
7 days ago
Harleigh and churchlady320 – you all could really be an interesting leaven over there…..choice has my e mail..but one I share on line is
and if you contact me there I will give youo my real e mail at yahoo
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
I am even harleight holmes on facebook and all the sites I may wander into.
Harleigh
7 days ago
I’m letting Murph connect us Harleigh – I have some security issues, but it’s fine, Murph, if you put us each in touch.
choicelady
7 days ago
Ok that was confusing. Harleigh and churchlady320 – you all could really be an interesting leaven over there…..choice has my e mail..but one I share on line is
– if you use it I will then give you my yahoo.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
I actually understood. Thanks!
choicelady
7 days ago
Harleigh I do not have facebook. Once the three of us are at Yabberz, we will figure out how to talk….
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Good night, good friends.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Good night, Murph. I’m off to ‘lessons and carols’ tomorrow night. I hope you have something good to do, too.
choicelady
7 days ago
Choice..lessons and carols…are you Episcopalian? Me too.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
yes I am episcopalaian too quit 53 years ago
Harleigh
7 days ago
nite guys
Harleigh
7 days ago
Technically, yes, but I also do UCC. Here they are two blocks apart. Lots of good songs of the season. Harleigh Merry Christmas to you, too!
choicelady
7 days ago
Good night, dear friends!
choicelady
7 days ago
I still rather like it. The accept my declare Christian Humanism vs. Credal Christianity.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
And with that….good night for real. Murph
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
You can’t go too wrong these days with almost ANY mainline, progressive Protestants. I’m welcome in many churches.
choicelady
7 days ago
Good night, dear Murph. Merry Christmas!
choicelady
7 days ago
Because of the holidays and all they require us to do – wrapping gifts, last minute shopping, heavy partying (we did our best here) we are wrapping up early. To any who join us late, happiest of holidays to you however you celebrate them. See you next week we hope!
choicelady
7 days ago
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