What’s up Ad?
killgoretrout
7 days ago
Hey all, Vox Populi, our live chat on the week’s events begins tonight at 7 pm PDT. Hope to see you then!
adlib 7 days ago
Hey KT!
adlib 7 days ago
Everything tuned up and ready for VOX tonight?
killgoretrout
7 days ago
Hope so!
adlib 7 days ago
Checking in….howdy….and no robot check captcha phrase….. :thumbsup : 
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
I checked the sign procedure at Google, Firefox and Safari. ALL A-OK!
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
I’m here now but am not sure I can stay awake until 10 PM EDT
nirek
7 days ago
hey it’s workin early??
Harleigh
7 days ago
I’m thinkin about changin my av to the one i now use everywhere else! The real me.
Harleigh
7 days ago
abra cadabra
Harleigh
7 days ago
pure majic
Harleigh
7 days ago
Cool Harleigh!
adlib 7 days ago
Glad to hear it, Murph!
adlib 7 days ago
Checking
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
For a few minute there I had a spinning wheel with the message “connecting” but nothing would post. I closed the chat but left the Planet Open. I refreshed the page and then reopened the chat and it is now working….I think.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Evening
sillylittleme
7 days ago
It is! It is! Evening to you SLM!
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Hey Murph, how was your week?
sillylittleme
7 days ago
SLM: Hotter than blazes..crops, what was left of them, fried….but almost all was in.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Sorry and glad to hear…
sillylittleme
7 days ago
BRB- SLM you reminded me I have to change the water lines…
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
SLM..I have returned…
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
murph lines all set?
sillylittleme
7 days ago
Hey Murph and slm!
adlib 7 days ago
hey ad
sillylittleme
7 days ago
SLM…just a matter of throwing a set of valves
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Welcome to the NewVox!
adlib 7 days ago
Howdy doody Ad
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Brave New Vox!
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
glenn’s in the house!
adlib 7 days ago
ad all bugs gone?
sillylittleme
7 days ago
hey glenn
sillylittleme
7 days ago
Glennnnnnnnn….hey there.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
slm, hope so. I think we know how to solve the issues.
adlib 7 days ago
ad cool liked this vox from the start
sillylittleme
7 days ago
SLM…Ad has worked mightily in the fields of software and the harvest is good!
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
GGood evening, slm, murph, adlib how is everyone tonight?
glenn
7 days ago
murph that it is
sillylittleme
7 days ago
Heh! Thanks Murph!
adlib 7 days ago
well glenn and you?
sillylittleme
7 days ago
Doing okay glenn, and you?
adlib 7 days ago
a toast to ad!!
sillylittleme
7 days ago
Cheers slam!
adlib 7 days ago
Make that slm!
adlib 7 days ago
ad you slammed?
sillylittleme
7 days ago
Oops, looks like I’m stuttering tonight. slm, ad, with me, it’s same old, same old.
glenn
7 days ago
slm – Yep, had my internet go down today, lots of techie challenges this week though I can see daylight now.
adlib 7 days ago
ad – well everything looks good from this end…
sillylittleme
7 days ago
So, ad, murph, and slm….what are the chances of Dems holding on to the Senate? Could we hope for some extra seats in the House? Especially now that mcconnell and his pals have telegraphed that they are going to shut down the government again?
glenn
7 days ago
ad – thanks for posting my article
sillylittleme
7 days ago
hey harleigh – passing a doobie
sillylittleme
7 days ago
hi guys
Harleigh
7 days ago
Wow, this new site is easy to use!
funksands
7 days ago
Harleigh, knew you walked into the door because of the little beep…and there is funk sands….howdy too
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Hey harleigh, how are you?
glenn
7 days ago
hey funk
sillylittleme
7 days ago
Hey funk, you’re here!
glenn
7 days ago
stoned again. The av is the real me BTW LOL
Harleigh
7 days ago
Glenn et. al. Sam Wang of the Princeton Election Consortium stands apart from most poll analysts in his assertion that the Dems will hold the Senate but the guy has a better record than election guru Nate Silver of “538” fame. In his article Senate Democrats are outperforming expectations Wang looks at the Senate races in Alaska, Arkansas, Colorado, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, North Carolina and New Hampshire. He calculates that Dems lead in five of these races (AK, AR, CO, NC, NH), are tied in two (IA, LA) and only behind in two (KS, KY). What is happening? Senate Democrats are doing surprisingly well. “Fundamentals” pull probabilities away from the present. The present is more sharply focused than the future. To read what all of that means take a look at Wang’s technical report. I know I will be watching this site in the future.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Yes, sorry I’ve been absent so much recently, been ridiculously busy. With the kids in school, should be easier
funksands
7 days ago
Murph, I agree, I think they’ll hold it 51-49
funksands
7 days ago
All interested…. the link…
http://election.princeton.edu/2014/08/28/senate-democrats-are-outperforming-expectations/
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
harleigh – I’ve seen your face somewhere before.
sillylittleme
7 days ago
funk – agree
sillylittleme
7 days ago
Anyone know how to make the vox box bigger?
funksands
7 days ago
Hey Funk!
adlib 7 days ago
Thanks, murph, for the info. I hope Dems and even independents do NOT sit this one out. It also looks like some tp guvs are going down. I hope the one in my state does! Seems it’s neck and neck here in GA.
glenn
7 days ago
Hi Ad, Murph, Silly, Harleigh
funksands
7 days ago
funk – the bottom right corner pulls down
sillylittleme
7 days ago
Oh yeah, you too Kes.
funksands
7 days ago
Funk, click on the bottom corner of the window and drag it to enlarge.
adlib 7 days ago
Hi Kes
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Shazam! Thanks everyone
funksands
7 days ago
Hey kids! How’s your collective Friday night?
kesmarn
7 days ago
hahaha SLM!!! I am the guy you mother warned their daughters about… too many years ago. 
Harleigh
7 days ago
Funk…when you are done enlarging you have to click again or it keeps expanding and shrinking
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
hey kes
sillylittleme
7 days ago
Got it.
funksands
7 days ago
Hey Kes! A hectic day but nice to be chillin’ with friends!
adlib 7 days ago
Ack
funksands
7 days ago
harleigh – you actually look a lot like a friend of mine. you’re not a scientologist are you?
sillylittleme
7 days ago
Jesus
funksands
7 days ago
Likewise, AdLib!
kesmarn
7 days ago
Funk….what do you think of the new chat space on the Planet…a new land
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Hi Kes–doing well here, and you?
glenn
7 days ago
hey beatlex
sillylittleme
7 days ago
Beatlex is in the hizzy!
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Has Jesus logged in, funk? I missed that.
kesmarn
7 days ago
I think I like it Murph.
funksands
7 days ago
SLM – I am the least religious person you ever met.
Harleigh
7 days ago
Murph, I agree with that assessment, I think the Dems will do better than the BS meme the MSM is spreading, that the Repubs will take over. They want that to happen because it would lead to more conflict and that means ad dollars to them.
adlib 7 days ago
Hey Beatlex how goes it?
glenn
7 days ago
Harleigh…thank god
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
harleigh – you have a doppleganger
sillylittleme
7 days ago
Wassup Voxites?
beatlex
7 days ago
murph – lol
sillylittleme
7 days ago
Ooooooo private chat 
funksands
7 days ago
Hey Beatlex, from George to John? Keeping us guessing who your favorite was!
adlib 7 days ago
SLM – GOOD! I’ll send it my bills! LOL
Harleigh
7 days ago
I love it!
funksands
7 days ago
Hi X!
funksands
7 days ago
Ad lib….which is why I like this new site…The Princeton Consortium….they get “theirs” from being right.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Fund…yes, private chat…ooooooohhhhh
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
harleigh – he’s a cheap fuck so by all means 
sillylittleme
7 days ago
Funk – Yep, private chats. But you have to keep your shirt on.
adlib 7 days ago
I think Dems should be pushing the benefits of Obamacare big time. I see two more repub guvs have expanded Medicaid
glenn
7 days ago
glenn – yes they have out of desperation
sillylittleme
7 days ago
Adlib,tough one,probably Paul.But I love all the Lads!
beatlex
7 days ago
Ad, is it like ChatRoulette?
funksands
7 days ago
😉
funksands
7 days ago
😉
kesmarn
7 days ago
I would hope the dems in all those races won. It would be a great start.
Harleigh
7 days ago
glenn – I agree and Dems should be pushing Repubs on what they would replace it with if they repealed it…and threw millions of Americans off of health insurance.
adlib 7 days ago
SLM–love that smell of desperation in repubs.
glenn
7 days ago
funk – then he would have told you to keep your pants on
sillylittleme
7 days ago
glenn – me too
sillylittleme
7 days ago
Funk – More like Chat Poker.
adlib 7 days ago
Glenn…corbett today tried to say he was “not really buying into Obamacare.” No one seemed to buy it.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Kasich is the guy that pulled off the Obamacare slight of hand most masterfully. He’s a scumbag, but he really did it.
funksands
7 days ago
murph – corbett’s going down
sillylittleme
7 days ago
Kudos to the President for showing restraint on ISIS,and making the MSM look stupid in the process
beatlex
7 days ago
Murph–Just another repub liar. What else can he say?
glenn
7 days ago
beatlex – not that you would hear that from the press
sillylittleme
7 days ago
Are Americans really scared of ISIS or are they just bored?
funksands
7 days ago
Kudos to the prez for wearing a tan suit and driving batshitcrazy king even crazier.
glenn
7 days ago
Right you are, funk. Kasich appointed a special committee to decide on the Medicaid expansion. That way the GOPers didn’t even have to vote on the record.
kesmarn
7 days ago
“The audacity of taupe,” glenn.
kesmarn
7 days ago
kes – nice one
sillylittleme
7 days ago
Wish I could take credit for it, SLM. But I stole it.
kesmarn
7 days ago
dem candidates should be open and supportive of the ACA and the millions now insured. To get out the vote, not attract bagger votes.
Harleigh
7 days ago
Kes, he’s awesome, he took the Medicaid expansion, told everyone he’s just getting Ohio’s money back and it has nothing to do with the ACA and the Ohio press is totally treating him like a hero for expanding Medicaid. He’ll win the election on that strategy
funksands
7 days ago
Kes–LOL–that damn black man showing audacity again!
glenn
7 days ago
AdLib,is there a way to make the box bigger onthe screen?
beatlex
7 days ago
He should have worn it again today just to fuck with everyone
funksands
7 days ago
funk, I’m afraid he will. Which is too bad because he’s really a bum. A smart one. But a bum
kesmarn
7 days ago
And Repubs may lose a lot of Governorships too. Lots of scandal around Walker, Rick Scott’s weak, Corbett’s not looking good…
adlib 7 days ago
Kes, how’d you turn off your location?
funksands
7 days ago
funk – now that would have been funny, although they would have questioned his hygiene.
sillylittleme
7 days ago
I’ve got a bad feeling about Florida. Nobody likes Charlie Crist
funksands
7 days ago
Beatlex, just click and drag a bottom corner of the window to enlarge it.
adlib 7 days ago
Reagan wore a tan suit too. But the RW loved that one. I personally believe it’s actually the same suit. Left in a back part of the closet.
kesmarn
7 days ago
funk – I don’t think that is true
sillylittleme
7 days ago
Funk–nobody likes Crist, but I think they like Scott even less.
glenn
7 days ago
Silly, that would have been interesting
funksands
7 days ago
Funk..really no one likes Crist?
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
kes – is on a roll
sillylittleme
7 days ago
funk, to turn off the location, you go to your profile here and there is that option.
kesmarn
7 days ago
Thx Ad
beatlex
7 days ago
Kes….I want what you are sipping.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
I know, but I just have a bad feeling about Florida. Doesn’t feel right, and I think the progressive challenge to Crist is hurting Dem enthusiasm a lot
funksands
7 days ago
“The audacity of dope.” in Reagan’s case.
kesmarn
7 days ago
murph – me too kes – what are you drinking?
sillylittleme
7 days ago
Murph, I’m not sure what got put into this coffee when I wasn’t looking.
kesmarn
7 days ago
Sfunk – south floriduh is dem and for Christ. Skeletor Scott may go down.
Harleigh
7 days ago
Kes–LOL
glenn
7 days ago
😀 glenn
kesmarn
7 days ago
Enter…KT….taaaaa daaaaa
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Harleigh, I hope you are right. You are closer to it than I am
funksands
7 days ago
As long as the voter suppression is held back in FL, I think Crist will win.
adlib 7 days ago
hey kt
sillylittleme
7 days ago
ad – I agree
sillylittleme
7 days ago
harleigh – my mom is in your vicinity and she thinks Crist will be back in
sillylittleme
7 days ago
Sfunk..Skeletor Scott..LOLmaybe he and Skeletor Jan Brewer can get together
beatlex
7 days ago
KT–are you here? Or are you there?
glenn
7 days ago
People are routinely referring to Rick Scott as “Skeletor” these days.
kesmarn
7 days ago
of course she’s 90 and senile
sillylittleme
7 days ago
I think Walker can lose, Corbett will lose and if so, three major swing states go back to Dems.
adlib 7 days ago
Just before the 2016 Presidential elections.
adlib 7 days ago
What’s up peopleoids?
killgoretrout
7 days ago
Hey KT!
adlib 7 days ago
Oops…did you already say that, funk?
kesmarn
7 days ago
Hey KT!
beatlex
7 days ago
funk Christ s saying he swith from repub and will go with the progressive agenda esp for seniors. He has my vote.
Harleigh
7 days ago
Hey, Homie! How’s your Labor Day weekend starting out?
kesmarn
7 days ago
Harleigh–I lived in FL when Crist was guv, and even though he was a republican then, he acted more like a Dem, which is why I voted for him then. That was back in the day when there were still some sane republicans.
glenn
7 days ago
Hey B!, glenn, slm,Harleigh Homie Murph, funk and PPO!
killgoretrout
7 days ago
PPO in the house!
adlib 7 days ago
Do I see Melbourne clocking in there?
kesmarn
7 days ago
PPO….good to see you..the house is filling up nicely.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
hey ppo
sillylittleme
7 days ago
Hey, Y’all . Great to see you. Yes looking good
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
Hi Pink
funksands
7 days ago
PPO–g’day mate!
glenn
7 days ago
I started calling Scott Skeletor at the old HP within months of his election.
Harleigh
7 days ago
Pretty good Homie. I’m getting ready to fly to Boston on Tuesday!
killgoretrout
7 days ago
glenn – I don’t see what winning message Scott has and if GOTV is really handled well by Dems, especially in the black community after Trayvon and SYG being supported by Scott, I think he loses.
adlib 7 days ago
Wow! Full House.
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
Oh, back “on duty,” Homie? Wishing you all the best with your mom.
kesmarn
7 days ago
Hey OZ!!
beatlex
7 days ago
Yeah. Back “on duty.”
killgoretrout
7 days ago
PPO – I think the new decor of Vox helps!
adlib 7 days ago
Murph, that is really cool site. I’d forgotten about it.
funksands
7 days ago
kt – how long will you be on the cape?
sillylittleme
7 days ago
KT – How is your mom doing?
adlib 7 days ago
Harleigh, is that your mug?
killgoretrout
7 days ago
Okay, folks, here is a complete change of subject–this one is especially for you, KT, but I’ll take advice from anyone. If you had only a week to visit the New England area, where would you go and what would you do?
glenn
7 days ago
KT it’s me! LOL
Harleigh
7 days ago
Funk…that site would be right up your alley I think. It is a bit over my head.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Absolutely, Ad. this format and layout is great
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
glenn – I’d head to Vermont and go hiking
sillylittleme
7 days ago
Go swim with the sharks Glenn!
beatlex
7 days ago
Mom’s doing great. She needs a driver though! I’m not sure slm. Several months, at least, maybe more.
killgoretrout
7 days ago
Good question glenn, I’m truing to talk the missus into taking the kids there next year
funksands
7 days ago
I’d go to the Concord, MA area, glenn, because I’m such a nerd that I love visiting places where Thoreau, Emerson et all hung out.
kesmarn
7 days ago
Besides, it’s pretty there.
kesmarn
7 days ago
Homie, I used to live in Woburn. A stones throw away from Concord. I’ve been to Walden, many times.
killgoretrout
7 days ago
kes – two hours max and you’re done
sillylittleme
7 days ago
Noooooo! SLM! Nerds like me can spend DAYS there!
kesmarn
7 days ago
I’m SO envious, KT. Wish I could live there.
kesmarn
7 days ago
Beatlex–thanks for the suggestion, but I swam with the sharks in the Keys, and that was enough. Unless of course, I’m sitting low in my seat, and misunderstood your meaning of “swim with the sharks.”
glenn
7 days ago
kes – seriously how long can one spend at the alcott house? and fyi, walden isn’t as nice as you imagine
sillylittleme
7 days ago
I think I’d go to Maine and eat lobster and NH to get a few gallons of real maple syrup.
Harleigh
7 days ago
It is beautiful there. Mass is a very beautiful state. Expensive too!
killgoretrout
7 days ago
I’ve been to Walden, SLM. And granted — it isn’t quite the way it was in Thoreau’s day — I was still drooling with hero worship at the Shrine! But that’s just me…
kesmarn
7 days ago
Swimming with the sharks is being in congress.
killgoretrout
7 days ago
I’ve been to Boston once. That’s the extent of my experience with New England. I feel like I”m missing out.
funksands
7 days ago
kes – when I was growing up it was a place to go get laid, enough said?
sillylittleme
7 days ago
It’s fun, funk. I lived in CT for 5 years and traveled a lot in NE. Pricey, though.
kesmarn
7 days ago
funk, it’s where it all began. Well, one of the main places anyhoo.
killgoretrout
7 days ago
My mother lives on Harvard square in her condo and my sister is in Bedford. Have not been there in decades.
Harleigh
7 days ago
Funk–you’re ahead of me. Never been to the area at all. My travel goals for this and the coming year are to visit places in the US that I’ve never seen.
glenn
7 days ago
funk – wanna trade? I wanna be in the Pacific Northwest!!!
sillylittleme
7 days ago
Talking about Congress, is anyone else getting the feeling that they’ve seen their high point in polls already and now it’s just downhill as they spout their RW lunacy and not just draft on Obama’s difficult decisions?
adlib 7 days ago
Seriously, SLM? I’m crushed. Although Thoreau might appreciate the irony…
kesmarn
7 days ago
That is, Repubs have seen their high point.
adlib 7 days ago
kes – I sure hope so 
sillylittleme
7 days ago
Ad–repubs “high points” being…?
glenn
7 days ago
I’m reading a great book about trees right now: American Canopy. One of the chapters is about Thoreau and Walden. Apparently it was the only place for miles that had any trees left, they’d all been cut down. Also only a 30 minute walk to town. Not roughing it thats for sure
funksands
7 days ago
slm, if you like lots of rain, that’s the place to be. It starts around Halloween and doesn’t let up until Easter. It is beautiful though. Real Mountains there.
killgoretrout
7 days ago
Ad…..my own Congresman…older, GOP, been in the job a while….saw him last week….he knows me…only comment “What I would give for some real leadership on the Hill!”
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
There’s not much room for downhill on ratings when you start at 13%
kesmarn
7 days ago
AdLib,lets hope so,the thought of them controlling both houses is a grizzly thought
beatlex
7 days ago
Ad, it’s been remarkably quiet. I’m sensing a lot of uncertainty about how to proceed.
funksands
7 days ago
kt – I’ve been to Seattle a couple of times and I’d trade Boston for there any day. And I love the rain!
sillylittleme
7 days ago
glenn – In the polls, that is. I think that now that Repubs start courting their RW base, their negatives will rise. Look at Mitvch McConnell’s top guy quitting over a scandal!
adlib 7 days ago
I used to sell loose joints in Havard Square.
killgoretrout
7 days ago
Henry David probably didn’t have wifi, funk. True.
kesmarn
7 days ago
I went to a “Open House” that is a town hall on the Congressman’s own turf, his office has a large meeting room. No one was happy. No one.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
What were they saying, Murph?
kesmarn
7 days ago
I may end up moving to Vancouver WA. Nice place.
killgoretrout
7 days ago
Silly I absolutely love where I live. Couldn’t imagine living anywhere else. The black depression and suicidal thoughts pass pretty quickly. Plus, we’ll be the only place in the country with any water in about 20 years
funksands
7 days ago
Murph–it’s a “throw the bums out” mentality, I think.
glenn
7 days ago
adl HAHAHA Mcturtle scandal. How fucking stupid is this one??
Harleigh
7 days ago
Funk – Maybe so up till this point but if Repubs want their base to turn out, they’ll have to spout nastiness and that will turn off indies.
adlib 7 days ago
Harleigh – he is so arrogant
sillylittleme
7 days ago
Ad, feels like a volcano slowly building.
funksands
7 days ago
ad – which is only good for us
sillylittleme
7 days ago
Kes…all over the place…that is what led to the comment to this…. Ad…..my own Congresman…older, GOP, been in the job a while….saw him last week….he knows me…only comment “What I would give for some real leadership on the Hill!”
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Ad–didn’t read the article, but saw the healine that foxsocallednews is trying to revive Benghazi! Distraction from Ferguson, I guess.
glenn
7 days ago
Speaking of mugs, have you all seen Rick Perry’s mugshot?
killgoretrout
7 days ago
McConnell is being Mitch slapped.
adlib 7 days ago
LOL AD!
beatlex
7 days ago
I did, KT. His mouth was smiling but his eyes were shooting death rays.
kesmarn
7 days ago
silly I almost hate mcconnel he’s such a condescending asshole.
Harleigh
7 days ago
That prick actually had a shit eating grin on his face.
killgoretrout
7 days ago
Oh I hate him
funksands
7 days ago
Ad–hope mcconnell is mitch slapped from here to November, and then goes home!
glenn
7 days ago
😆 Homie! True.
killgoretrout
7 days ago
kt – he will be eating shit
sillylittleme
7 days ago
Nothing is going to happen to Perry. He’ll treat this like he just won his right-wing gang colors
funksands
7 days ago
Those covertly recorded comment at the Koch-fest aren’t going to do Mitch any good.
kesmarn
7 days ago
Murph – Saw that, I’m sure those Repubs who don’t want to bow down to the moron Baggers really pray for salvation…or something to keep them from having to sound like fellow morons. But that ain’t gonna happen.
adlib 7 days ago
You have all heard this: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/28/us/politics/on-tape-mcconnell-envisions-using-budget-to-undo-obama-initiatives.html?_r=0
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
kes…jinx
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Mitch has had his “49%’ moment,I would love to see that old fart lose!
beatlex
7 days ago
That’s what I was referring to, Murph.
kesmarn
7 days ago
jinx indeed!
kesmarn
7 days ago
I think the GOP is behind Perry’s indictment. They really don’t want any more embarrassment with him in the 2016 race.
killgoretrout
7 days ago
All–you know what I don’t understand? Why doesn’t the twice, duly-elected President of the United States get to enact his agenda? Why is it only the repubs who are “entitled” to enact their agena?
glenn
7 days ago
glenn – Benghazi? Really? Great, go for it Repubs! Why not go after Jimmy Carter’s Presidency while you’re at it?
adlib 7 days ago
KT….the indictment is coming from GOP authorities…your idea is not far fetched.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
I think they are going to run on Obama’s suit.
funksands
7 days ago
And Perry is so dumb. He doesn’t even know what he was indicted for. Said it was “bribery.” Either that or he’s confessing to yet another felony!
kesmarn
7 days ago
Ad–here in GA, they are going after Carter’s presidency since his grandson is running for gov.
glenn
7 days ago
funk – lol
sillylittleme
7 days ago
If I were a repub, I wouldn’t want him in the race either.
killgoretrout
7 days ago
kes – he’s an idiot
sillylittleme
7 days ago
Kes–how dare you call Perry dumb? He has the glasses to prove he’s “smart”.
glenn
7 days ago
Exactly Homie. He really does make W. look smart.
killgoretrout
7 days ago
People in TX call him “Bush without the brain.”
kesmarn
7 days ago
glenn – Sounds pretty desperate to me, trying to use the Presidency of 35 years ago as a pressing issue? Huh?
adlib 7 days ago
ALL baggers are dumb. Never give a sucker an even break! In 2009 The Koch brothers through Dick Armey and his Freedumbwerks front created the Astro-turf Teabaggers. I’ve concluded that all Teabaggers are Koch’s suckers in an Army of Dick’s.
Harleigh
7 days ago
kt – that applies to all repubs
sillylittleme
7 days ago
Oh that’s sad Homie!
killgoretrout
7 days ago
Kes – Maybe Rick Perry could be known as “Bush’s Tush”?
adlib 7 days ago
BIAS
killgoretrout
7 days ago
Well put Harleigh!
beatlex
7 days ago
harleigh – spot on
sillylittleme
7 days ago
I’ll join you in that cryfest, Homie…
kesmarn
7 days ago
ad – lol
sillylittleme
7 days ago
LOL! Good one, AdLib!
kesmarn
7 days ago
Ad, I hear that
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
Benghazi revival is in the hands of Howdy Gowdy. He’ll be back to benghazi after recess.
Harleigh
7 days ago
BIAS is Back In A Sec!
killgoretrout
7 days ago
oops! Perry had a rectum transplant and it rejected him!
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
pink – funny
sillylittleme
7 days ago
Ad, well, the definition of “conservative”is never changing. That’s their “schtick” and they’re sticking with it. Another ad running here in GA is one I particularly like. It asks, “Michelle Nunn, Obama’s rubber stamp in the Senate?” Personally, I would vote for Nunn on that alone. I think it’s about time President Obama had a “rubber stamp” in Congress!
glenn
7 days ago
LOL OZ,Perry is a putz
beatlex
7 days ago
Harleigh, yep, Baggers were a corporately bought “revolution” intended to exploit angry idiots to take government away from the majority.
adlib 7 days ago
PPO! Too funny. I thought he had a cranial/rectal inversion!
killgoretrout
7 days ago
glenn – hear hear
sillylittleme
7 days ago
KT, That didn’t work either!
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
Is that why his looking out at the world through his navel, Homie?
kesmarn
7 days ago
You guys are POSITIVELY GIDDY tonight….the new format is rareified
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Could be, Homie.
killgoretrout
7 days ago
glenn, we could use a lot more Obama rubber stamps in Congress.
kesmarn
7 days ago
Murph, it’s brilliant, isn’t it?, but a tad quick for my aging eyes!
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
Many of you may not have heard that Perry and Gohmert were conjoined twins at birth and joined at the haid. When they were separated each got half a brain but Perry got all the hair.
Harleigh
7 days ago
I thought Repubs like rubber stamps, they all vote the same like them.
adlib 7 days ago
What’s funny about Congressional deadlock is that its given the executive branch all of the power to decide how to administer the nation’s business
funksands
7 days ago
HA! Harleigh
beatlex
7 days ago
He is sort of hairbrained!
killgoretrout
7 days ago
ad – only their rubber stamps
sillylittleme
7 days ago
kt – good one
sillylittleme
7 days ago
Good one, Harleigh!
adlib 7 days ago
Kes–ain’t that the truth? More rubber stamps for President Obama!
glenn
7 days ago
Right funk, and they they accuse the Executive of tyranny!
kesmarn
7 days ago
Harleigh, Gohmert gets the macrame Constitution in that divorce
funksands
7 days ago
PPO ….roadrunner like…yes.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
What I want to know is will Rick Perry wear his glasses in jail?
adlib 7 days ago
kes – they should all be tried for treason
sillylittleme
7 days ago
SLM, they really should.
kesmarn
7 days ago
Ad, yes, he’ll need to to se Bubba coming!
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
How serious is the Perry business?
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
ad – probably thinks it
sillylittleme
7 days ago
Sadly Ad, he’ll never even see the jail! If he does, it will be a country club prison.
killgoretrout
7 days ago
slm – It is treason, sabotaging the U.S. government and harming its citizens. It’s also called being a Republican.
adlib 7 days ago
Silly, I’d settle for electoral consequences. The American People aren’t cooperating yet
funksands
7 days ago
He’d better wear those glasses in the shower…
kesmarn
7 days ago
‘ll keep him from being beaten up
sillylittleme
7 days ago
ahhh this goes too fast
sillylittleme
7 days ago
Kes, I’m glad you said it. Not sure where everyone here stood on prison rape
funksands
7 days ago
Did you see where Obama made oil tanker disappear in the gulf with millions of barrels of oil?
Harleigh
7 days ago
slm…that is because we are going so fast right now
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
I’m against it FYI
funksands
7 days ago
Speaking of treason, did y’all see that fox bimbo who wants Putin to be president for 48 hours?
glenn
7 days ago
funk – he wouldn’t be going in to gen pop
sillylittleme
7 days ago
SLM, you can extend the box using the little arrow under the smiley.
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
The old line about not dropping the soap, funk… 
pen_mouth:
kesmarn
7 days ago
Glenn, I saw that. She’s really special
funksands
7 days ago
I like the new sound. It’s more of a plop, than a pop! VOX a ploppin!
killgoretrout
7 days ago
Murph – I’ve seen people try to minimize the case against Perry but I think this is another MSM meme where they say what they want to happen instead of what could. They want him running in 2016, he’s good for the MSM machine’s ad sales.
adlib 7 days ago
To me, it’s kind of a “whoop!”
kesmarn
7 days ago
Perry in a debate is ratings gold!
funksands
7 days ago
pink – i did and it still scrolls fast especially when everyone comments at once
sillylittleme
7 days ago
Maybe a Yawp!
killgoretrout
7 days ago
“Yawp” is better.
kesmarn
7 days ago
Ad I have been told by my attorney brother in law in Tx that there is real danger in the indictment BECAUSE it is coming from GOP sources who have a pile of dirt on Perry and can introduce it as part of their case.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Thank Mr. Whitman!
killgoretrout
7 days ago
It’s a Qbert hop noise
funksands
7 days ago
I just put my sound on and it sounds more like a bloop to me
sillylittleme
7 days ago
Good old Walt…
kesmarn
7 days ago
Like a bubble popping to me
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
We should have a variety of sounds. Emotisounds…
kesmarn
7 days ago
murph – hope they can make it stick
sillylittleme
7 days ago
Funk–in one sentence the fox bimbo laid bare all of the gop’s hypocrisies (sp?). 1. a foreign born citizen CAN become president. 2. No mention of Congress; the putin can act alone. 3. Let’s have a real communist, tyrant dictatior in as president, instead of the “fake” one we have in President Obama. 4. Let’s bypass the Constitution, forget about elections and “get it done right”.
glenn
7 days ago
It sounds like dropping a pebble into a pond.
killgoretrout
7 days ago
What sound does an implosion make? Gnab!
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
I’m old and can’t hear shit! WHAT??? 
Harleigh
7 days ago
Glenn, the dumb ones eventually start to believe their own hyperbole
funksands
7 days ago
Glen…do you recall the name of the bimbo in question.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
I love it Homie! Sad Trombone! Rimshots!
killgoretrout
7 days ago
glenn – she should be wearing a white coat and in a nice rubber roon
sillylittleme
7 days ago
room
sillylittleme
7 days ago
Honk! Bleep! Buzzz!
kesmarn
7 days ago
glenn – Yes, saw that Fox woman wish for Putin to be our dictator. Jon Stewart showed it too, could these “patriots” be any more traitorous in their beliefs (which they are entitled to) than they already are? Rooting for a brutal, oppressive, warmongering tyrant to take over America? If anyone is still wondering how real Obama Derangement Syndrome is, this should settle that debate.
adlib 7 days ago
Splat is a good one!
killgoretrout
7 days ago
Great comment, glenn!
kesmarn
7 days ago
ad – without a doubt
sillylittleme
7 days ago
Murph–her name in Kimberly Guylinhall–or something like that. But I have the first name right. The first article I saw about it was on Media Matters.
glenn
7 days ago
Thanks to the new sounds, it’s Vox Plop-u-Li?
adlib 7 days ago
Rick Perry: “No one expects Rick Perry! My chief weapons are Fear, Surprise and…. uh…
funksands
7 days ago
Ad, ODS should be included in the new DSM!
killgoretrout
7 days ago
Ad, 
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
Too funny funk!
killgoretrout
7 days ago
Gotta step away for just a bit.
funksands
7 days ago
I think we also need an emoticon for batshit crazy!
killgoretrout
7 days ago
They object to the Prez’s tan suit but that orange jumpsuit on Perry and Christie? Just 21st century campaign attire.
kesmarn
7 days ago
SLM–no she should be in jail for advocating treason!
glenn
7 days ago
glenn – she is not in her right mind
sillylittleme
7 days ago
KT, how about one of sarah Palin?
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
Here it is… https://ringoffireradio.com/2014/08/fox-news-host-wants-putin-to-be-americas-president/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=fox-news-host-wants-putin-to-be-americas-president HEarlier this week, Fox News’ Kimberly Guilfoyle was on “The Five,” discussing the situation with the Islamic State. Responding to comments by co-host Greg Gutfeld regarding President Obama’s handling of the terrorist group, Guilfoyle said she wished Vladimir Putin or Benjamin Netanyahu could rule the US so things would be “done right.”
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Oooooo! Good one PPO!
killgoretrout
7 days ago
I suggest Kimberly move to Russia.
kesmarn
7 days ago
batshit crazy = Palin – Bachmann 2016 fer jebus!
Harleigh
7 days ago
SLM–Oh, I disagree. She’s cray like a fox! (pun intended). And she shouldn’t be allowed on t.v. to spout her treason.
glenn
7 days ago
Murph, yes, Putin could show the US how to invade a previously friendly……. oh, too late
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
Murph, if Putin were in charge here, Guilfoyle wouldn’t be allowed to say anything Putin didn’t approve. These people are soooo stupid.
killgoretrout
7 days ago
Kes – Like that! The GOP should hold a prison fashion show, Christie and Walker in orange jumpsuits and Perry in bold stripes.
adlib 7 days ago
glenn – unfortunately fox won the legal right to lie and call it news
sillylittleme
7 days ago
She needs to be under her own personal Iron Dome. In the desert. In AZ.
kesmarn
7 days ago
I can see Christie on the runway now, AdLib!
kesmarn
7 days ago
kt – she’d be happy to spout anyone’s propaganda
sillylittleme
7 days ago
Kt- anyone but Obama…that is their sacred mantra
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
how come they all stopped wearing those made in china merikan flag lapel pins?
Harleigh
7 days ago
Maybe she could get a job instructing nine year olds how to fire automatic weapons!
killgoretrout
7 days ago
The commentators on FOCKS are are fracking idiots,the lot of Em’ 
beatlex
7 days ago
I can see Christie from my house!
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
harleigh – they got rusty
sillylittleme
7 days ago
KT–That is the saddest part about these people. They don’t even understand what they’re asking for. It’s beyond stupidity–or they know exactly what they’re doing–and that’s even worse!
glenn
7 days ago
ZZZZing! KT!
kesmarn
7 days ago
Too soon?
killgoretrout
7 days ago
kt – oh that was so horrible especially with an israeli weapon how unamerican
sillylittleme
7 days ago
slm, we could make it a MAC 10!
killgoretrout
7 days ago
PPO–just think how much better you could see Christie in his orange jumpsuit. I do think it should be Christie in the stripes, though. I hear they’re very slimming!
glenn
7 days ago
kt – that’ll do
sillylittleme
7 days ago
glenn – don’t the stripes go across?
sillylittleme
7 days ago
Do they have have orange floats in the Macy’s Day parades?
killgoretrout
7 days ago
Depends on whether they’re horizontal or vertical, glenn…
kesmarn
7 days ago
Glenn –
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
kt – mmm orange float
sillylittleme
7 days ago
And Christie is still going to run…well, waddle. The Repub primary is going to be truly entertaining.
adlib 7 days ago
OK…you want BATSHIT CRAZY….two towns over the city council voted to approve turning a closed bowlng alley into an indoor gun range. 7 to 0 waiving zoning rules. They will have a bar (separate entrance to abide by the law) and a snack bar and a kids place game room.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
KT, naw, that’s Christie filled with hot air
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
We could have a new TV comedy prison show with Cristi, Perry and Walker calle ‘My Three Bitches’.
Harleigh
7 days ago
murph – what could go wrong?
sillylittleme
7 days ago
As the phrase goes: What could possibly go wrong, Murph>
kesmarn
7 days ago
kes – jinx
sillylittleme
7 days ago
jinx, SLM!
kesmarn
7 days ago
Murph–I thought I lived in the land of guns. The GA legislature is debating what kind of felons should be allowed their guns back. I kid you not.
glenn
7 days ago
Ah yes, booze and firearms! YeeHah!
killgoretrout
7 days ago
harleigh – lol
sillylittleme
7 days ago
Murph, you’re kidding, right?
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
Sabreen is in da house! What’s up lady?
killgoretrout
7 days ago
kt – and kids
sillylittleme
7 days ago
Murph – I suppose you have to thin the herd some way, if they are actually going to kill themselves off…well…
adlib 7 days ago
The Bowling Alley closed three years ago…..it is across the street from a park and its rear backs up on a school.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Harleigh–
glenn
7 days ago
hey sabreen
sillylittleme
7 days ago
Sabreen! Can you post?
adlib 7 days ago
Murph, the NRA must be salivating at their product placement!
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
Maybe a combined bowling alley and gun range. You have to shoot the pins down.
killgoretrout
7 days ago
Will young black men be allowed in the former bowling alley, Murph?
kesmarn
7 days ago
KT–Don’t give the any ideas! Could be kinda expensive, though, replacing all those pins.
glenn
7 days ago
KT, well somewhere to take the little ‘uns after school
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
I was in our local watering hole two nights ago and the local loons were absolutely giggling….shooting all year round in climate controlled comfort.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Or fire bowling balls from a muzzle loader, Homie…
kesmarn
7 days ago
Kes- yes, maybe as targets.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Back soon, grabbing a coffee.
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
That would be a BIG muzzle loader, Homie!
killgoretrout
7 days ago
PPO/KT–They could have an after-school program, and the kids could get some extra-curricular credit.
glenn
7 days ago
After Ferguson, nothing would surprise me…
kesmarn
7 days ago
kes – ain’t that the truth
sillylittleme
7 days ago
Hi everyone. I’m trying to navigate the chat. The scroll bar seems to be giving me some difficulty. Anyhoo, I hope everyone is well.
sabreen60
7 days ago
Hey, Sabreen, good to see you!
kesmarn
7 days ago
Hey Sabreen
glenn
7 days ago
Sabreen..greetings…you will acclimatize…
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Hey Sabreen!
beatlex
7 days ago
Folks, looks like my time is getting cut short. Sorry I can’t stay longer. Looking forward to seeing you all more soon.
funksands
7 days ago
So long funk.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
funk – crimea?
sillylittleme
7 days ago
See you later, funk!
kesmarn
7 days ago
Funk–sorry to see you go. Take care.
glenn
7 days ago
nite funk
sillylittleme
7 days ago
Later funk. Glad you could join us.
killgoretrout
7 days ago
Sabreen! What’s going on with the scrolling? It does leap up when comments are posted, I will discuss that with the developers.
adlib 7 days ago
later funk
Harleigh
7 days ago
Before we all head south for winter, can I congratulate AdLib, Kalima and the crew for this new, brilliant Vox. Well done, all of you.
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
Gee Funk I arrive and you leave, but I’m not taking it personally
sabreen60
7 days ago
Night Funk!
beatlex
7 days ago
Seeya Funk!
adlib 7 days ago
PPO–Hear, hear!
glenn
7 days ago
pink – second that
sillylittleme
7 days ago
{{{(((APPLAUSE)))}}}
Harleigh
7 days ago
Cheers PPO! Kalima and I thank you for your props, we’re working every day to make The Planet better and better!
adlib 7 days ago
Cheers all!
adlib 7 days ago
Can I get a resounding PLOP?
killgoretrout
7 days ago
plop
sillylittleme
7 days ago
KT – Heh!
adlib 7 days ago
AL – HOW DO I CHANGE MY PIC ON THE PLANET HOME PAge… ooopppps
Harleigh
7 days ago
….Last week we were in despair…..but sticktoitiveness won the day….Planetary Virtue
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Adlib, I just have to use a very light touch with the mouse. You know who how everything will turn blue as though you’ve blocked it for cut and paste….
sabreen60
7 days ago
Gravatar Harleigh!
killgoretrout
7 days ago
Harleigh – Go to gravatar.com and login under the same email address you used to set up your account here. Upload your new avatar there and that’s it!
adlib 7 days ago
KT I did and it only changed my av here. LOL
Harleigh
7 days ago
Huh!
killgoretrout
7 days ago
harleigh – logout and login again
sillylittleme
7 days ago
OK… brb
Harleigh
7 days ago
I know when I’ve changed pix on gravatar sometimes it would take a day or so before they’d show up on the Planet…
kesmarn
7 days ago
Murph – It was a bit discouraging last week, this new chat was working so well for many but not for others, which would have been a deal killer. Now, it’s seem to have worked out!
adlib 7 days ago
Kes – Yes, we use an avatar caching system (along with other caching) to speed up the display of pages so that can delay new avatars from being displayed.
adlib 7 days ago
harleigh – did it work?
sillylittleme
7 days ago
Ad, that wasn’t your fault. Some of us had old software no longer supported by new stuff, but it’s fine now.
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
But the new ones always did appear then.
kesmarn
7 days ago
Ad- yes….getting everybody on board during the week to play with it gave us the chance to figure out how it really works. Typical of so much soft ware…lack of clarity and direction.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
oh st is here!!!!!
sillylittleme
7 days ago
Yep, there’s always a transition period with new systems, just glad that this worked out after the one that didn’t a couple of weeks ago.
adlib 7 days ago
KT, that video you posted about the 28 year old father who was arrested for sitting in a public area waiting for his kids to get out of school was a shocker.
kesmarn
7 days ago
SLM not yet
Harleigh
7 days ago
harleigh – sorry here’s another doobie
sillylittleme
7 days ago
Kes–I saw that on another site and it just blew my mind! I hope he sues the police department for false arrest, since they have now dropped the charges.
glenn
7 days ago
Kes…the police as occupying force in post 9-11 world
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
So, do you think that the institutionalized racism and militirization of police will continue to move people or will they lose interest and leave all that in place?
adlib 7 days ago
thx slm
Harleigh
7 days ago
glenn, agreed! He needs to sue!
kesmarn
7 days ago
Homie, I could actually feel that guys despair and helplessness. He was calling out for genuine human beings to help him. Thank goodness those bastards didn’t shoot him. So disgraceful of those cops.
killgoretrout
7 days ago
Glenn…..the law is stacked to give the police plenty of cover…suspicion of….is a huge umbrella.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
ad – that is such a sad question to have ti ask
sillylittleme
7 days ago
Ad–I hope more and more black people will share their stories and/or videos to keep the heat on the heat.
glenn
7 days ago
to
sillylittleme
7 days ago
Ad Lib..our national attention span is that of a chihuaha on uppers.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
slm – Ferguson SHOULD be a rallying cry that more and more Americans join in on but I’m concerned that people are already starting to move on.
adlib 7 days ago
Right, Murph. If this guy hadn’t had his cell phone with him, the story would have been buried.
kesmarn
7 days ago
We cannot let these incidents slide into the dustbin of American history, like so many other appalling things that are news for a week or two, then gone from the public forum.
killgoretrout
7 days ago
Murph–but they never said what he was suspected of.
glenn
7 days ago
Part of the GOP strategy is to keep tossing balls in the air…look, look, look, look, look
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
And collective memories.
killgoretrout
7 days ago
ad – no we have to stay positive and vigilant
sillylittleme
7 days ago
Right. We need to keep the spotlight on every incident like this until things are dealt with.
kesmarn
7 days ago
Squirrel!
killgoretrout
7 days ago
glenn, he was suspected of being black in an all white zone!
killgoretrout
7 days ago
Glenn…disorderly conduct, failure to abide by a lawful order, suspicious demeanor….
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Glenn…standing around while Negro
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Adlib, My avatar is on Gravatar, but it’s not showing here??
sabreen60
7 days ago
murph – what is suspicious demeanor?
sillylittleme
7 days ago
Question: when a cop asked you for ID, are you legally required to show it? If you’re not driving that is?
kesmarn
7 days ago
Murph–how can you charge disorderly condut when he was just sitting there?
glenn
7 days ago
SLM–suspicious demeanor=black
glenn
7 days ago
glenn – we have to be better than that
sillylittleme
7 days ago
SLM You know….slouching, shfty eyes, being dark skinned
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
murph – where are the better angels?
sillylittleme
7 days ago
Kes- if you do not produce an id they can continue questioning you for cause.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Kes–According to what I’ve read–no you are not required to show ID unless the cop has a reason to ask for it.
glenn
7 days ago
Homie, not without probable cause. The fourth amendment says “reasonable,” search and seizure. There was no good reason in this case for law enforcement to accost a man who was doing absolutely nothing wrong.
killgoretrout
7 days ago
Think about all the outrages that Americans just let slide. Trayvon Martin, Sandy Hook, Climate Change caused major droughts and natural disasters, Gabby Giffords, on and on. Are people just too seduced, oppressed, distracted and/or pacified by corporations that they just won’t rally together and stand strong for any period of time to force change or do things need to get really horrible first before they will?
adlib 7 days ago
SLM–You’re right–we have to be better than that, but so far we are not.
glenn
7 days ago
Glenn…it does not matter what he was actually doing….it is what they say he was doing.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
So this guy was totally within his rights to refuse to give his name? I was thinking he would have been.
kesmarn
7 days ago
No Murph, not according to the 4th amendment. They need probable cause to even ask for ID.
killgoretrout
7 days ago
Ad…all of the above plus distracted, narcissistic, self absorbed, disconnected.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
I saw part of a video (Georgia I think) and the cop’s dash cam showed the cops screaming at this guy to stop grabbing for his gun and the guy was standing there with his hands up in the air.
sabreen60
7 days ago
America is so divided AdLib,that’s what people are focused on IMO
beatlex
7 days ago
Good lord…!
kesmarn
7 days ago
KT….the police I spoke to about this scoff, yes scoff, at the 4th amendment….
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Sabreen–and this is how cops get away with shooting; they say they were “threatened”.
glenn
7 days ago
He was Homie! Absolutely. Despite what many cops think, this is not 1930s Germany!
killgoretrout
7 days ago
Maybe those CopCams will tone it down a bit.
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
“He went for my gun!”
beatlex
7 days ago
Sabreen, you have to additionally add your avatar to this chat system. Click on the three line icon in the upper right of this window then click on your name then generic avatar and the upload box will open.
adlib 7 days ago
Murph, I’m not surprised.
killgoretrout
7 days ago
kt – well the powers that don’t want any progress think it is
sillylittleme
7 days ago
PPO, I’m hoping they are universally required. Cop-cams.
kesmarn
7 days ago
kes – that is the best option
sillylittleme
7 days ago
A local sheriff I know is really pushing for the funding for two officers in every car…studies show that police teams act better than solos…the fear factor.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Cop cams MUST be mandatory for any police officer that deals directly with the public. They MUST be made mandatory. The police have proved, time and again, that they can’t even police themselves!
killgoretrout
7 days ago
Kes–I was reading an article about cop cams which says that we also need the burden of proof on the cops to prove what they’re saying, “just in case” those cop cams get lost. IOW, when the cop cams are altered or lost, the cops have to prove thier case–not the defendant.
glenn
7 days ago
glenn – do you remember where you read that?
sillylittleme
7 days ago
Murph, 2 cops/car is a good idea, unless they’re both dicks! Notice, when the’Cops’ show is around, eveyone is SO polite. sad about the unit cameraman, though. At least we know it wasn’t the perp who shot him.
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
KT – I ahree, cop cams would be a great antidote to the outrageous violations of citizen and especially minorities’ civil rights.
adlib 7 days ago
glenn, I think tampering with or failure to turn a camera on should be a firing offense. You mess with the cam, you get canned! No ifs, ands or buts.
killgoretrout
7 days ago
A few years ago, I was pulled over after work (late — about midnight) for a tail light that was out. The cop started asking me all sorts of questions: Where are you going? etc. I said “home.” And he responded: “Then why are you traveling in the opposite direction of what’s on your license?” I explained about the cottage. Then I kicked myself later for having answered his questions!
kesmarn
7 days ago
the copcams are going to be made from converted vaginal probes from virginia
Harleigh
7 days ago
Harleigh!
kesmarn
7 days ago
harleigh – and another doobie to you
sillylittleme
7 days ago
SLM–no, I”m sorry. I was going to google it tonight before I came to VOX, but I forgot. I’m sure one of our esteemed planeteers can find it. Given enough time, I could probably find it, too. If I do, I’ll post it on “regular” PPOV.
glenn
7 days ago
glenn – I could look it up too
sillylittleme
7 days ago
Homie, you probably did the right thing, but I know it must have galled you. They have no business demanding your destination.
killgoretrout
7 days ago
KT–I agree wholeheartedly. Cops should have to follow the law to the letter, and then some. They should not be above the law.
glenn
7 days ago
glenn, I think it should be the law that if the cop cam is lost or not recording, the cop is officially off the clock and won’t get paid for that time.
kesmarn
7 days ago
Great idea Homie!
killgoretrout
7 days ago
Harleigh, you nailed it!
adlib 7 days ago
all – a cam implanted in their forehead…
sillylittleme
7 days ago
Isn’t it such a shame that it needs a CopCam to change behavior and attitude.
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
Cams are really the only way to hold cops accountable for their behavior.
killgoretrout
7 days ago
Then again, we could pay Vloggers less than a second cop to ride along and video him.
adlib 7 days ago
Right, KT and the sooner the cops realise that almost everyone has one, the better
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
Hey Sabreen, I see your dayglow kitty! Woa, that sounded a little naughty!
killgoretrout
7 days ago
Kes–When I lived in FL, years ago, there was a rash of cops stopping women for no reason and doing “suspicious” things to them. I was stopped about 10 at night after coming home from a class for having only headlight. Didn’t know I only had one–and it was on a dark, deserted stretch of highway. I got asked the same questions, but decided it was better to answer than to argue and get pulled out of my car. But, my heart was beating a mile a minute, and I was extremely frightened.
glenn
7 days ago
Kes- I was pulled over two months ago – I went through a light that went red just as I passed through it….the town is a notorious trap. The officer was so matter of fact that it told me he was certain that I wouldjust pay the fine by mail I told him that I needed his badge number and car license for my record and it would be helpful if were to icude them on the ticket so I could refer to them in court. I also asked how I can get access to the traffic video record. He looked at me, paused and then aid, be careful and wnet back to his car. I suspect he realized I would actually show up in court and maybe with an attorney and that was too much trouble.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
There must be a way to weed out the bad apple cops before they become cops,devise a test or something
beatlex
7 days ago
Wow…glenn! That’s very interesting. I never thought of it as possibly a part of a pattern.
kesmarn
7 days ago
there was a sort of gunfight in orlando today you all will enjoy! So brave Ofc Sanguino fires nine rounds at a alleged perp with an empty gun in an exchange of gunfire, kills a bystander and manages to shoot another cop!!?? While his intended target survived!!! LMAO this is a scene for Reno 911or Police Squad. Bet he gets a medal for valor AND marksmanship. Beahaha florid uh strikes again.
Harleigh
7 days ago
Murph, I wonder what would have happened had you been black and done/said the same thing to that cop…
kesmarn
7 days ago
Ad- when you speak with the developers it would be good to ask if the text input box can be set so that more than one line of text can be viewed at the same time.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
B, I think all cops at police acadamies should have to take a battery of psych tests before they are ever given a gun.
killgoretrout
7 days ago
Kes and glenn, those are scary situations. It sure makes it clear why so many people allow cops to violate their rights, because it’s scarier to stand up to them and not know what could happen. That’s not good for a democracy, fear destroys democracies.
adlib 7 days ago
KT,exactly.keep them off the streets
beatlex
7 days ago
Police Kill Woman, Charge Man They Were Trying To Shoot With Murder
The man who police were trying to shoot when they killed an innocent bystander is now charged with her murder. Police responded to Vixen Bar in Orlando, Florida, on Aug. 19 after a 911 caller told them a “gun wielding maniac” was in the …
Harleigh
7 days ago
kt – that’s right, can’t believe they don’t have psych tests
sillylittleme
7 days ago
Harleigh–don’t know where it was, but I do think it was Florida. Cops got into a gunfight with a perp, shot and killed an innocent bystander, and charged the perp with murder.
glenn
7 days ago
Murph, I want to add — I’m not faulting you for what you did/said! Just wondering how it would have played out if you’d been a minority person.
kesmarn
7 days ago
Kes- it would have been trouble. I have an older car which I share with several others, part of the coop. But, I have a very studied manner and that always help.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
that’s the one glenn! except the perp had no bullets!!! bwahahaha
Harleigh
7 days ago
Some of these stories are just incredible!
kesmarn
7 days ago
Harleigh–so we WERE talking about the same thing.
glenn
7 days ago
Harleigh….the police create the mayhem but are not held accountable for it.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Murph – Yes, that’s also on my list. They already said that they would add the ability to embed graphics (oddly, you can’t do that right now).
adlib 7 days ago
Hey KT, I just have to figure out how to size “day glow”.
sabreen60
7 days ago
Ad…you are ahead of the game..
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Sabreen, you naughty girl! 
killgoretrout
7 days ago
Ad–I couldn’t agree more…”fear destroys democracies”. That’s exactly what the gop is doing to ours!
glenn
7 days ago
And then there’s the case where the guy in the back of the police car was said (by the cops) to have committed suicide. With his hands cuffed behind his back. They said he shot himself in the back. But the coroner said the gunshot wound entered the chest. Hmmmm….
kesmarn
7 days ago
glenn – fear is how they keep control
sillylittleme
7 days ago
At any moment any one of us could be living in a totalitarian police state.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
SLM–agreed.
glenn
7 days ago
murph – aren’t we already to a certain extent
sillylittleme
7 days ago
Hey Murph, we already have been, for a few decades now. Not so you’d really notice though!
killgoretrout
7 days ago
kes, I couldn’t believe that – absolutely batshitcrazy. But then the coroner said that the guy some kind of body ( I forget the term) that enabled him to shoot himself in the chest while his hands were cuffed behind his back!
sabreen60
7 days ago
Murph–that’s what scares me.
glenn
7 days ago
I see we don’t have red underlines for spell check. I’m in trouble.
sabreen60
7 days ago
Sabreen, don’t you have to wonder how they expect anyone to believe that? I mean, really…
kesmarn
7 days ago
Sabreen–please tell me the coroner didn’t say that.
glenn
7 days ago
Perhaps I should amend my statement to read: At any moment we could become aware that we live in a police state.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Murph – With a dishonest, militarized police force networked around the nation, all that would be needed is a terrorist act (multiple ones coordinated like 9/11 would be even more effective) that can be used as a pretext for enforcing a kind of totalitarian martial law and with aa RW President in office, that sure could happen.
adlib 7 days ago
KT–I think people are beginning to notice now.
glenn
7 days ago
Sabreen, That was simply horrible. How do these maniacs think they can get away with such bullshit? Do they think everybody else is a stupid as they are?
killgoretrout
7 days ago
They already have an umbrella organization for that networked, militarized force, too: Oath Keepers.
kesmarn
7 days ago
I surely hope so glenn. I surely hope so. Our founding fathers are spinning wildly in their graves!
killgoretrout
7 days ago
kes – academi
sillylittleme
7 days ago
yeah, glenn. The word started with a “h”. I’ll do a little research.
sabreen60
7 days ago
Academi too, SLM!
kesmarn
7 days ago
Kes – Yep, that’s pretty scary too! Oath Keepers, Militias and gun nuts, all they need is a sympathetic federal government and taking over parts of the US, as they did in NV with that deadbeat racist, Cliven Bundy, could happen in various places around the country.
adlib 7 days ago
Nevertheless, Dr. Carl Ditch wrote in the report that White was capable of firing the shot while cuffed “due to his body habitus” and has agreed to rule the death a suicide.
http://rt.com/usa/182932-victor-white-coroner-report/
Coroner says man fatally shot himself in the chest while handcuffed behind his back
The release of an autopsy report in Louisiana is raising new questions about the unusual shooting death of a 22-year-old black male who died earlier this year in a police car while his hands were cuffed behind his back.
sabreen60
7 days ago
KT–Was it whitman who said “not with a bang but with a whimper?” If we don’t start speaking up, then I’m afraid it will be with a bang, followed by a whimper of “what happened?”
glenn
7 days ago
Remember the scene in Ferguson where the police officer was pointing his semi auto at one person after another in the crowd saying he was going to kill them…another officer intervened. He was suspended. They announced today that he would be getting counseling and retraining. When the announcement came out the outcry was tremendous FROM THE PRESS who ambushed every public office they could get their hands on…tonight the decision is being reconidered.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Right, AdLib. If you check out Oath Keepers website, they says they’re gaining in membership by the day — rapidly.
kesmarn
7 days ago
*they say not they says… sheesh!
kesmarn
7 days ago
kes – many socks do not make lots of people
sillylittleme
7 days ago
The people of America have to come together and let their voices be heard, loud and clear. Policing civilians should never be equated with patrolling people of occupied nations. There IS a war going on, right now, in America. And the cops are behaving like occupying troops in a foreign country.
killgoretrout
7 days ago
glenn – The people have become to complacent, they need a non-politician leader to rally them and keep them focused. No idea where such a person would come from but he or she is desperately needed.where
adlib 7 days ago
If it is any consolation a buddy of mine when we had 500,000 committed to Nam my buddy and his unit had no insignia’s and worked in the Caribbean, central and south america to install friendly regimes. Like pinnochet etc. Take over the Police first he told me. That’s how the Germans occupied europe.
Harleigh
7 days ago
Murph–I read that the police officer has now resigned. I believe it was on “crooks and liars”.
glenn
7 days ago
The Oath Keeper speaker whose insane one and a half hour rant on video got him suspended will be allowed to retire with full benefits.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Murph! Say it ain’t so!
kesmarn
7 days ago
Harleigh, I think you’re friend spoke truth.
kesmarn
7 days ago
harleigh – same game different decade
sillylittleme
7 days ago
Glenn…yes that followed quickly but now the officials are saying that his resignation may not be accepted…..that they will need to still do a hearing and act accordinigly
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Kes he was the real deal.
Harleigh
7 days ago
Murph–hopefully, his resignation will not be accepted so he can be fired and lose his pension.
glenn
7 days ago
SLM I can see it plain as day.
Harleigh
7 days ago
glenn – and then get therapy
sillylittleme
7 days ago
Ad–I agree. We need another Martin Luther King.
glenn
7 days ago
harleigh – the line is long and predates written history
sillylittleme
7 days ago
Well good people of the Planet, I must call it a night. Have to get the music thread up for tomorrow. Hope to see you then
killgoretrout
7 days ago
I’m impressed with Chris Hedges, but I don’t think he wants to lead a national movement.
kesmarn
7 days ago
you are right slm
Harleigh
7 days ago
nite kt
sillylittleme
7 days ago
glenn – That’s what i was alluding to. Another MLK, Gandhi, etc. would be hard to find but we sure do need someone who could have the moral authority to lead a movement.
adlib 7 days ago
G’night, Homie. Rest well.
kesmarn
7 days ago
nite KT
Harleigh
7 days ago
See you then, KT! Sleep well!
adlib 7 days ago
ad – they were flawed men, we need someone with insight into what can turn bad hearts good and keep the good ones from turning bad
sillylittleme
7 days ago
ALL….one of the barely reported events from last week in Ferguson was the letter sent from several members of Congress who were active in the civil right movements, heroically active. They made it clear that their tactics were hurting them. Morning marches, afternoon planning and rest, and then a rally before a later dinner…then home. That spurred the community leaders to develop a stronger poition on those who were the source of the disorder (that left the police to handle their own)
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
My family, circle of friends and acquaintences is not huge. Each adult male has said they have been accosted by cops, including my husband.
sabreen60
7 days ago
Sabreen, I’m not at all surprised to hear that.
kesmarn
7 days ago
Good night KT. Take care.
sabreen60
7 days ago
I have a very good friend who is a deputy sheriff…a good man, a smart man, who regularly gets promoted and then demoted- why? He does not operate from the common police mindset when they get in groups…
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
slm – All people are flawed, what made them and the few others like them in history so powerful was their humanity. And being flawed is part of that. Imperfection is fine, self-sacrifice and moral leadership is needed to be exemplified.
adlib 7 days ago
Well, folks, it’s time for me to turn in. I hope everyone has a very nice Labor Day weekend. And, for those of you who asked about two months ago, I am still working on my memories of Iran. I had to let it go for a while, because while they are great memories; they are memories that made me a little “raw”. I think I’m better now, so I’m going to continue working on it. It still may take a while, though, because I also feel it may be a “frivolous” post with all that is going on nowadays.Thanks for all the advice on the Cape/New England area. I’ll let you know if I deide to go. Peace!
glenn
7 days ago
Night Glenn
beatlex
7 days ago
nitemon
Harleigh
7 days ago
G’night KT.
glenn
7 days ago
nite glenn
sillylittleme
7 days ago
glenn, I’m SO looking forward to your Iran piece. Bless you for being courageous enough to “go there” with those memories. Have a wonderful weekend!
kesmarn
7 days ago
Fare thee well to all of the departing….not the departed.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Cool glenn, looking forward to your remembrance of Iran! Sleep well and have a great weekend!
adlib 7 days ago
Glenn…I have to go back and find the Iran conversation…
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
there he was in Iran and didn’t even bring us each a rug! I’m hurt. lol
Harleigh
7 days ago
kes, my husband who has never been arrested said that one night (before we were married) he was stopped by the police, thrown up against the car and the cop was pointing his gun at him. Supposedly, he was fit the description of some guy. Funny, though the cop let him go without taking him in. Hubby says you have no idea how it feels to have a gun pointed at you by someone in authority until you experience it.
sabreen60
7 days ago
I think I may also catch the “out bound,” dear friends. Have a great Labor Day weekend, whatever you do!
kesmarn
7 days ago
Murph–I just mentioned one night on VOX that I had lived in Iran for two years, and some people encouraged me to write my memories of living there.
glenn
7 days ago
Glenn…what years?
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
bye kes – have a great weekend
sillylittleme
7 days ago
‘Nite, Kes,
glenn
7 days ago
nite kes
Harleigh
7 days ago
So what do folks think about Hillary’s avoiding questions on Ferguson than finally responding with a general plea for trust? Add that to her continued lobbying for more military force in Iraq and Syria…do you still think that someone this driven by political victory and not to principle will win the Dem primary in the end?
adlib 7 days ago
Kes..take care.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Sabreen, before I leave I just have to say that I feel so much for your husband! That must have been awful
kesmarn
7 days ago
Murph–1976-1978–right before the Shah left.
glenn
7 days ago
kes, Good night and do enjoy your weekend. I hope everyone does. We’ve got a few things planned and hope to make at least ONE of them.
sabreen60
7 days ago
Ad….I do not like hilary, i do not trust hilary, i do not believe in hilary….
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Glenn…that will be one very interesting article….
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Sleep well, Kes! Have a wonderful holiday weekend!
adlib 7 days ago
Murph–so far, it’s more personal than political.
glenn
7 days ago
there is nobody else from the dem side to beat hilary
Harleigh
7 days ago
murph – i agree, i agree, i agree
sillylittleme
7 days ago
Glenn….peronal will be good…
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
G’night once again! And give your hubby an extra hug, Sabreen!
kesmarn
7 days ago
Harleigh…..I know but I yearn for there to be.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Murph, you sound like me. I’m no fan of Hillary. She didn’t comment on Ferguson until Twitter blasted her. Then her response was late and tepid. I think she waits to see which way the wind blows.
sabreen60
7 days ago
SLM….many do.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
I wish Bernie Sanders would challenge Hillary,then we would find out exactly what she is about
beatlex
7 days ago
Walking out the door now–good night all!
glenn
7 days ago
Night glenn!
adlib 7 days ago
Sab….she, like Bill, is slick.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
murph – smarmy
sillylittleme
7 days ago
Beatle, no fan of Bernie either….when all is said and done, a lot more gets said than done and he is the model for that.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
beatlex – me too
sillylittleme
7 days ago
SLM…yes, the final moment of my conversion to Barack was at a Hillary rally…that smile and that laugh….
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
beatlex, I wish Martin O’Malley, and Elizabeth Warren would challenge her
sabreen60
7 days ago
Don’t think that Hillary won’t have a legit rival, I think she will. Obama was an unknown nationally, young, had the middle name of Hussein and Hillary was at an 80% support level with Dems in December 2007. And how did that work out for her. She is not a shoe in, believe it.
adlib 7 days ago
sabreen – liz is not leaving her post
sillylittleme
7 days ago
Well I can’t run, I smoke too much pot and we don’t need a laundry list from 1967 thru 1990.
Harleigh
7 days ago
Sab….I really like O’Malley and pairing him with Warren as a package would be an intriguing busting open of the model for the nomination.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
harleigh – what happened after 1990?
sillylittleme
7 days ago
Harleigh, with that record, you’d still be better than any Teabagger!
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
Ad..so who is in the wings.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
all – you cannot have my senator!!!!
sillylittleme
7 days ago
slm, probably not. I’m not even sure she’s a heavy weight in some areas. I just want to see as many Dems as possible throw their hat in the ring.
sabreen60
7 days ago
SLM is Bernie yours…? am I being too hard on him…if he were a Texan, all hat and no cattle?
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
I quit drinking! LMAO and running at the bars every night… then I got married. oh the humanity….
Harleigh
7 days ago
Well folks I think I’ll call it a night. Take care everyone until next time.
sabreen60
7 days ago
G’night, Sabreen
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
Night Sab.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
nite sabreen
sillylittleme
7 days ago
murph – liz is mine!!
sillylittleme
7 days ago
anything is better than a teabagger.
Harleigh
7 days ago
Murph, whether it’s O’Malley, Biden or someone like Sherrod Brown gets into the race, someone will be the standard bearer for Progressives because that is a vaccum that nature will abhor and that person will rise to competitive level. Hillary is telegraphing how she will abandon Progressives to lure Republicans to vote for her, she’s using a General Election campaign leading up to the Dem Primary and I think it’s going to hurt her big time.
adlib 7 days ago
harleigh – she made you a better man
sillylittleme
7 days ago
nite sabreen
Harleigh
7 days ago
SLM….oh, in that case, I can see why you guard her…I could not vote for her but I supported her campaign.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Well,I have an early wake up call,so,good evening denizens of Vox!
beatlex
7 days ago
nite beatlex
sillylittleme
7 days ago
Night Sabreen! Glad you made it here successfully! Have a great holiday weekend!
adlib 7 days ago
See ya, Beatlex!
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
slm yep
Harleigh
7 days ago
Night Beatlex!
adlib 7 days ago
ad – how about the only one not to vote for the patriot act
sillylittleme
7 days ago
nite beatlex
Harleigh
7 days ago
Ad…that is a list with which I agree.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Barbara Lee?
adlib 7 days ago
You mean in the Senate?
adlib 7 days ago
ad – Donna Edwards?
sillylittleme
7 days ago
ad – ya
sillylittleme
7 days ago
ad – he lost his seat
sillylittleme
7 days ago
Murph – It could be someone we’re not even thinking of but there will be someone smart enough to campaign as the Progressive candidate and that person will have a lot of moral authority to go after Hillary.
adlib 7 days ago
Why is everybody so sure that Hillary will even run?
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
Right now, I’m worried about a Hillary Presidency. More wars, slashing social programs and empowering corporations. Why not just elect a Repub?
adlib 7 days ago
Feingold
sillylittleme
7 days ago
Ad, wash your mouth out with soap!
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
Ad – she is a repub and always has been
sillylittleme
7 days ago
Ad….the more I know of Bill’s preidency the more I worry about Hillary’s
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Stand up for WEINER!
Harleigh
7 days ago
Harleigh, YOU are incorrigible…
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
harleigh –
sillylittleme
7 days ago
PPO – Oh, I think it’s a done deal that Hillary will run but I think the conclusion that no Dem could run against her strongly in the primary is just foolish. Of course an alternative could do well.
adlib 7 days ago
PPO – My point is that someone would have to be open to voting for a Repub to support many of Hillary’s positions.
adlib 7 days ago
Ad, yes, I suppose. But I’d sooner see a ‘Republican-minded’ Dem in the White house than a GOP/TP fool.
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
Harleigh, I think people have been too hard on Weiner.
adlib 7 days ago
All the dems today are too light for Hilary, but there are 2 years to go.
Harleigh
7 days ago
i wish you all a no labor weekend
sillylittleme
7 days ago
LOL al.
Harleigh
7 days ago
Good point Harleigh. Look at how President Obama rose from virtual obscurity.
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
Take care SLM
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Cheerio, SLM
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
PPO – What a sad election that would be, “Do you what to vote for damage to our nation or horrible destruction?” The lesser of two anti-99% politicians?
adlib 7 days ago
Night slm! Have a wonderful holiday weekend!
adlib 7 days ago
pink he did a great speech a couple years earlier and when he cam onto the stage for real he owned it.
Harleigh
7 days ago
Ad, but isn’t it how it’s starting to look?
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
Harleigh, yes, I saw it, but until that speech, who knew about him?
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
I was close to the ground floor of the Obama 2008 campaign. I know for a fact that the plan was to trot Barack around a bit to get his name known at a little different level than it wa from his Convetnion speech. Then he would run seriously in 2012 taking on Hillary or in 2016….the emptiness of her candiacy changed all of that.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
PPO – I think that’s how the MSM is portraying it but if they’re so right, 2008 would have been a battle between Hillary and Rudy Giuliani.
adlib 7 days ago
well I gotta go. see y’all next week same bat time…
Harleigh
7 days ago
Murph, that’s what I worry about – the emptiness of her previous candidacy. she shouldn’t run at all and back a newbie, or Joe, God Love him!
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
Bye Harleigh…
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Good nnight, Harleig. Avagoodweekend!
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
And then there were three…
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
More conventional thinking from pundits, “Obama can’t be re-elected if unemployment isn’t below 7%.” “America’s not ready to elect a black President.” “Hillary is a shoe in to win the Dem primary in 2008, none of the other candidates is strong enough.” Don’t believe the MSM memes, they’re trying to sell Hillary as inevitable but they’re usually wrong if you look abck at their previous conclusions.
adlib 7 days ago
Well, Ad Lib I would say that the new Vox is a big hit.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Great, great Vox, Ad. congrats again
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
Seeya Harleigh! Have a great holiday weekend!
adlib 7 days ago
Murph and PPO – It does seem to make Vox even more enjoyable. It’s nice when things work out!
adlib 7 days ago
Well, I’d better get going on my afternoon chores. Take care, everybody
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
Ad, Chuck Todd, the “new” host of MTP (Gregory with more stats in his head)….was on that Hillary’s got it recitation this morning.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Take care, PPO! Have a great rest of your day!
adlib 7 days ago
Night, or day, to you PPO.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Well, Ad…the frustrations of the first of the week did result in a good finish.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Chuck Todd, the guy who claims it’s not the job of the press to correct lies, that guy?
adlib 7 days ago
Murph – Appreciate your help in the beta testing of this system! Indeed, it didn’t look as likely earlier in the week, very pleased it’s all worked out.
adlib 7 days ago
Yes Ad, that guy….I read today that NBC has to have people like Gregory or Todd or they will be able to book from the right side of the continuum. I suspect this is so which makes me really ditrust Todd.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Ad…my pleasure as well. I am doing a lot of work with the founders of a new site called Yabberz and have been posting thumbnail links to our tuff over there as well.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
And I am still in contact with HP…..interesting.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Murph – Yeah, maybe he’ll be able to get John McCain or Lindsay Graham on the show! Same old hack Repub guests, another hack host but less and less viewers which is the real problem. I can’t think of anyone who will watch that show now because of Todd. Watch, ratings will be flat then continue downward.
adlib 7 days ago
You’ll have to fill me in on what’s going on there.
adlib 7 days ago
Ad…from your lips to the rating gods ears.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Murph – Just seems logical. Another lousy hack hosting a show that will continue being a shill for Repubs. Why should its course change?
adlib 7 days ago
Happy to do so….a very unique model at Yabberz…and HP is discovering that while is numbers are up, its quality is way down and that is a point of hame for them (because it used to be a point of pride to be a site of high level discourse)
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
The HPRefugees came after me again in e mail…..I sent them the stats I had on them…and that seems to have silenced them.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Well, we knew that would happen. When you farm out the commenting to Facebook, you lose the loyal devotees who were the most prodigious and thought provoking. The only thing worse would have been farming it out to Twitter.
adlib 7 days ago
Heh! I’m sure they didn’t like having to face reality! BTW, I guarantee you their numbers have dropped bigger since then.
adlib 7 days ago
FB commenting…miserable structure and a poor platform.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
HP kept moving away from conversations and simply put, if what people write isn’t worthy of conversation, it won’t be written. Why invest a lot of thought into such a disposable comment?
adlib 7 days ago
HP’s click counts are way up. The move did what they wanted in expanding the social network. They know they now look like fb in the commenting sections and apparently the powers that be are not pleaed. Oh well.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Time to slink into my cocoon…..I am going up to Ferguson tomorrow for a meeting. Fingers crossed.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Murph – A hollow but financially rewarding result. They now may be worth more financially but they are worth less in substance.
adlib 7 days ago
Good way to put it.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Good luck, Murph. Please fill us in on it tomorrow!
adlib 7 days ago
Sleep well and have a great holiday weekend, Murph!
adlib 7 days ago
I can probably refer to it but nothing specific….there is a real sense of panic in both the black and white community there about the town’s future.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
I can understand that. The denial and desperation in the “I Love Ferguson” campaign doesn’t bode well for the town. If they can’t all agree there’s a problem, there’s a bigger problem.
adlib 7 days ago
Property values…that is the key and the signs are that the middle class blacks will run first.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
That’s disappointing but not surprising when they’re in the middle, between denialist and some racist whites and poorer blacks who demand activist change.
adlib 7 days ago
Many of them have been through this two or three times….their experience tells them that those who run first get teh most money.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Again Murph, if it’s all about money, they could be right and have more money than those who stay to help the town they claim to support. But there’s sacrifice involved and most people who would have to, don’t seem to be willing to make sacrifices as much lately.
adlib 7 days ago
Truth. Still. How many times can people afford to be burned. Thanks for all of the hard work finding something exciting and new for the gang here at our neighborhood blog.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
We should chat soon…
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
I get it, it’s not an easy choice but who’s going to step up for the community over themselves? Thanks for all of your help too! Always nice to be able to spruce up the joint!
adlib 7 days ago
cheers!
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Absolutely. Sleep well!
adlib 7 days ago
Hi, Ad. you’re up early!
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
Hey PPO! Yep, tuning up the Vox chat room for tonight!
adlib an hour ago
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