• AdLib : Night pal!

  • MurphTheSurf3 : I agree re. women and Hillary. AND on that night cap, we adjourn!

  • AdLib : No worries Murph, we can close the Vox bar for the night. Have a great weekend!

  • AdLib : Murph – That’s very cool and charming! I think we’ll see a number of Repub women voters vote for Hillary because of the dynamics of Repubs being so anti-woman and having the opportunity to see the first woman president in their lifetime.

  • MurphTheSurf3 : I am still here. And will wait until you finish to reply

  • AdLib : Also, the Repubs know what they’re doing to get their constituents angry at them and they know that it will just be worse if they keep going along with the nihlism of the Baggers. Appreciate your POV on them and agree, they may want to go out as men instead of live as mice.

  • AdLib : Interesting about GA, didn’t know all of that. Michelle Nunn running there could make things very interesting there. Yep, I think the overreach by Repubs in NC really helps Hagen, especially because the Senate candidate is the House Speaker behind all the lunacy. And Landrieu has turned things around as you say so three big “gimmies” the GOP counted on don’t look so certain.

  • MurphTheSurf3 : It’s just you and me, Ad….

  • MurphTheSurf3 : Hillary…..reme mber my Lysistrata Ladies….had a call from their leader asking if Sen. Clinton (as she called her) would make a good president? I said that I thought so- it was funny- she sort of whispered- well if she runs I am going to vote for her.

  • MurphTheSurf3 : I suspect that you are correct re. Dem control AND I am beginning to think that some GOP in the Senate are really getting nervous about the party’s life expectancy- since Senators serve longer terms I think these longer term issues are on their minds more than the Reps. SO….we are seeing signs of a GOP opposition to the TP types in the Senate. Further, some GOP House reps- I have one of them – are real old timers and would rather leave office with their heads help up having lost to a TPer than get whipped like a dog or forced to to bend the knee.

  • MurphTheSurf3 : Ad Lib- Georgia is interesting. In 2006 a GOP effort to get a voter ID was hijacked by Civil Rights era pols and turned into a bipartisan effort. As a result big resources, a huge campaign, two years and a lot of grassroots effort led to Voter IDs for almost everyone and the voter turnout was big in 2008- it has been getting bigger and more Dem. Now the GOP is trying to do its tricks but they are so transparent…so a Dem shift is possible. NC is becoming one very angry state and that anger is creating a deep divide and Hagen is playing this with key constituents. Landrieu is putting a lot of push behind health care- a gigantic issue in LA. So yes…

  • AdLib : I expect the Senate will probably stay Dem, maybe just barely. Repubs will lose several seats in the House but retain shrinking control, around 13 seats need to change from Repub to Dem for control to change and gerrymandering makes it tough to get many now. That would set up an opportunity for Hillary in 2016 to have a shot at winning the WH AND winning Dem majorities in Congress.

  • AdLib : Murph – I know, just a few off the top from the Repub wish list that I think won’t come true for them in full.

  • MurphTheSurf3 : Ad Lib- obviously did not mean right now but in time. You seem to have the eye for the horse races

  • AdLib : GA is now a possible Dem pickup, KY too.The NC mess may help Kay Hagen hold her seat and Landrieu’s looking better in LA. These were all considered probable Repub seats. What do you think?

  • MurphTheSurf3 : Ad Lib I would enjoy seeing one of your rundowns state by state.

  • AdLib : Murph – It is a possibility though with the momentum on our side, some races seen as tossups for Repubs will shift to Dems and some slamdunk Repub seats like McConnell’s could go Dem. I do think that if Grimes wins in KY, it could be the decisive win for the Dems.

  • AdLib : Murph – Unfortunately, some people have to hit rock bottom before letting go of political dogma and opening their eyes to what is really going on. Even then, it’s so painful to accept that they’ve been so wrong so many will still hang onto their dogma even though deep down they know it’s flawed.

  • MurphTheSurf3 : Ad….look at the Senate races for me- what do you think. Will the Dems lose the Senate? I can’t believe that this might be a possibility but it seems to be.

  • MurphTheSurf3 : Ad Lib- And yet today I saw the spark – the rubes in rebellion- I think there is a dawning awareness that they are cannon fodder in the war being fought for the rich and the rich and the powerful. I think of my neighbors who are about to lose a family farm because of medical bills (and have a vulture bank just waiting to grab the property)

  • AdLib : Murph, wonder if they’re sick yet of losing Presidential elections and winnable Senate seats?

  • AdLib : Night Sally! Have a great weekend, see you here for the Funnies!

  • AdLib : Murph – There is only an on and off switch for some people, narrow minded folks like that just marry themselves to the conviction that Obama is evil and Repubs are on their side and never question themselves. That takes critical thinking and such people never learned that, they’re the rubes the Repubs manipulate like puppets.

  • SueInCa : Good comeback Murph and now I will sign off. Take care everyone.

  • MurphTheSurf3 : Thanks Sally. He scowled and walked away.

  • SallyT : Good come back there, Murph!

  • MurphTheSurf3 : Sue- after the Town Hall this AM, I was approached by a GOP operative from the County who knows of me. He asked me if “I was sick of O-Boy yet!” I said I wasn’t but it sure looks like he’s making you guys look sick.

  • AdLib : Night Sue! COngrats on your productive day!

  • SallyT : Okay, Murph, I’ll be watching for them.

  • SueInCa : Also driving people to the polls….

  • SueInCa : I agree with you both Murph and Ad. I will work on that end this time.

  • MurphTheSurf3 : Sally…hey I have my comments ready to go in the AM…they will be there. I have an especially good anecdote to share with you about one….

  • SallyT : Good night, glenn and Sherlock. I am out the door behind you both.

  • MurphTheSurf3 : Sue- I know it is important to fight the GOP efforts to block the vote but I think we need ready the field of battle. SOOOOO I want every Dem activist to get behind the Secure ID’s campaign….”qu ite cher bitchin” and get to work is what I want to push. IDs for all.

  • AdLib : Sue – I think it will be a multi-pronged campaign to get the Dem vote out in 2014. Women’s groups, black groups, Latino groups, youth groups, all the demos that the Repubs have been assaulting will be mobilized and then there will be Obama’s groups pushing hard too because he sure wants a Dem Congress for his last two years. Hmm, wonder who might be good at organizing a community like that?

  • SueInCa : Well I think I am going to sign off too. I have to get up early to go see about some new furniture. It was a good night here, thanks to everyone.

  • SallyT : Oh wait! Sorry, I meant good night to KT! You rest and take another pill! See you around here later!

  • AdLib : glenn, so it’s time for you to say Goodnight Moon? Night and sleep well!

  • SueInCa : I am looking for that opportunity Murph. We mostly are a blue area but there is still opportunity. I would also be willing to travel if it is close. Night KT Night Glenn. Ad I hope someone in the lead in the party makes that a priority to get out the vote

  • SallyT : Good night Murph and you haven’t commented on the funnies. I checked everyday!

  • glenn : KT–Night–looki ng forward to the music thread.

  • AdLib : Night KT, looking forward to the Music Thread as always!

  • MurphTheSurf3 : Glenn- peace is found in the conquered pole

  • KillgoreTrout : Thanks Murph!

  • glenn : Okay, folks, now that I know how to paint a 30-foot flag pole, I can go to sleep without worrying. The moon is going to the other side of the earth now. G’night all.

  • MurphTheSurf3 : Take care KT….depart with a song in your heart.

  • AdLib : And Dems did do better than predicted in turnout and margins in 2012 for a similar reason. Remember, most polls were way off and didn’t predict the kind of victory Obama and the Dems had.

  • MurphTheSurf3 : Sue- here in Mo. we are working to get everyone, everyone, everyone a state ID card or a driver’s license. And we are registering til the cows come home.

  • KillgoreTrout : Well good people of the Planet, I think I’ll excuse myself and begin working on this weekend’s music thread. Sleep tight kids.

  • SueInCa : Sally Tony did that with paint rollers and we finished the paint job in half the time

  • glenn : Sue–Agreed. GOTV is the only way to overcome gerrymandering.