• AdLib : See you then! You have a great weekend too!

  • SallyT : I will be seeing you! Have a great weekend!

  • SallyT : There are some pretty angry ones! Some are down right nasty and not even close to funny! However, we do like to jump on their “Rednecks”! Yup, they don’t have any that are real comedians but they do have many that are without knowing it!

  • AdLib : Think about it, the only comedians the RW have are Dennis Miller and Victoria Jackson.

  • AdLib : cartoons

  • AdLib : Just saying in general, I find the cartons opposed to Obama more angry than clever but there are angry cartoons on the Left too. Just a general proposition that being RW and funny is not easy.

  • SallyT : Believe me, AdLib, I have to read a lot that aren’t funny! But, I have to read to find those that are!

  • SallyT : I try to pick those that we might not agree with but that we are in on the joke and can laugh at it.

  • AdLib : No worries, Sally. It’s all about what’s clever and hits the mark, whether or not it’s what I would or wouldn’t agree with.

  • AdLib : I’ve noticed that and that’s fine, I do think they show the RW with less of a clever sense of humor and more of just anger and fear as “funny”.

  • SallyT : There are a lot on California politics but I am not familiar with yours so I don’t put many in. I do once in awhile. If I pick the wrong side, don’t hold it against me!

  • SallyT : Sometimes, AdLib, I have to stick in one or two that aren’t necessarily favorable to Obama but I think if is fun to see how others see it, too.

  • AdLib : Wonderful Sally! They’re a delight!

  • SallyT : You do the same. The Funnies are geared up, just waiting for any good ones tomorrow to add before sending to you.

  • AdLib : Hey Sally, looks like we’re closing the Vox bar again. Looking forward to the latest Funnies this Sunday! Sleep well and have a great weekend!

  • SallyT : So, AdLib, it is just us to close.

  • AdLib : Night Murph! Have a great weekend and hope your New Year is going very well!

  • AdLib : Night Funk! Email me when you can!

  • MurphTheSurf3 : Ad….I was looking at the GOP side of the fence…as you say is there a Dem who would have the credentials with the Senate, with the military, with the public? Don’t know.

  • AdLib : Funk – My concern is that if he can be swept up with Iraq, what’s to say he wouldn’t be swept up the next time in supporting an unnecessary war? I don’t think he’s a terrible choice, just that he didn’t stand up and say “no” the last time he should have, might he not be prone to acting the same way again?

  • SallyT : Wish the same back at you, Murph!

  • MurphTheSurf3 : Well…time to check out….wishing you all the best in 2013…a year of good fortune let us all hope.

  • AdLib : Murph – Many Dems in Congress opposed the Iraq War, in the House, 82 voted for it, 126 voted against it. In the Senate, 29 voted for it, 21 voted against. I don’t know which of them may be qualified for Defense Sec but I would feel better with one of them than someone who supported the war mongering of the Bush Admin.

  • SallyT : Isn’t that funny, AdLib, we are aged by our music! My daughter the other day said, “Mom, they are calling my music the oldies! Bon Jovi is not oldies! Your music is oldies!” Sorry kids, music grows old as we do.

  • MurphTheSurf3 : Funk…good luck…..holy cow…an 8 year old….

  • SallyT : Good night Funk! I always wish you luck!

  • funksands : Well folks, I gotta go. My 8-yr old woke up at 1pm today and thinks its Sunday. :-( Wish me luck. Ad, talk at you this weekend. Night Sally/Murph

  • AdLib : Sally – There’s a station here in LA called K-Earth, it is the oldies station. Flipping past it I would hear songs from the 50’s and such. Today, it’s music I grew up with and kids today are flipping past it no doubt thinking what I did about 50’s music as “lame” (though I came to like it later on). A bit depressing.

  • MurphTheSurf3 : funk…I don’t know if your assessment is accurate…Hagel has been “appreciated” by his GOP colleagues but also criticized pretty roundly…the fact that it looks like he is going forward with the nomination tells me he is ready to have a fight on this one…why won’t the GOP support a moderate Republican. I think the Dems can be won over.

  • funksands : Ad, check him out on the Hurricane Sandy benefit. It was pretty bad.

  • AdLib : Funk – I saw Roger Waters several years ago and his dodging around having to sing notes he couldn’t hit any more was a bit disappointing. Now David Gilmour on the other hand, he was hanging on rather well but don’t know about nowadays.

  • SallyT : But, by not selecting a Dem does give cause for many to say that the Democrats just can’t handle defense. Now that I don’t agree with.

  • funksands : Ad, to his credit he did come out a few years later and said the vote was a mistake.

  • MurphTheSurf3 : Ad Lib…there are not many, in fact hardly any, on either side of the aisle who did not support the Iraq war….at first.

  • MurphTheSurf3 : Sally…check out what I wrote to Funk re. Hagel. Let me add, as an Eisenhower GOP he is also very wary of the military industrial complex that runs war for fun and profit- idea the neocon raison d’tre. I think he is of the “get more results for less money” via pinpoint action, good intelligence and alliance building.

  • AdLib : Murph – I could only imagine John Bolton or some other wingnut in that position if Romney was elected. do have a thing against anyone who supported the Iraq War in that position, doesn’t show the insight and aversion to unnecessary war that I would like to see.

  • funksands : Murph, I think Obama nominated him thinking that here’s one fight that won’t happen. Little did he know. Right now sources are saying 10 DEM senators would vote no if Hagel is nominated.

  • SallyT : LOL, Adlib, I know but it use to be they used the BIG BAND ERA when asking for money. NOT THE BEATLES and the STONES!

  • funksands : Ad: Please tell me Roger Waters will stop singing at some point in the future. Love the guy, but holy cow

  • AdLib : Sally – A year or two ago, PBS was showing the Pink Floyd concert DVD, “Pulse” during a pledge drive…Pink Floyd, the symbol in its day of anti-authority, counter culture, acid and psychedelics…a nd it’s cozy nostalgia today. I guess you just have to laugh (as I did while watching it on PBS, taking acid and burning my draft card…)

  • MurphTheSurf3 : Funk….Hagel is interesting…a GOP moderate…suppo rted the War in Afghanistan and Iraq initially but with limitations shaped by the George HW Bush war in the Gulf; when the war became about nation building he turned away and became an outspoken critic warning of another set of Vietnams. He is an honest guy who is not much interested in the spotlight. He is a decorated war veteran and an Eisenhower Republican. No wonder the current GOP hate him.

  • SallyT : Now I heard the reason he was going for a Repug was because of the cuts he was going after in defense and he thought it would be better to have a Repug than one of us liberal anti war Dems.

  • AdLib : It’s that Lincoln, “Team of Rivals” thing Obama is intent on pursuing, despite how counterproductiv e it is in policy terms.