• choicelady : See you, AdLib. I will call if I have news. ‘Night!

  • choicelady : AdLib – IF the initiative is now supported by a crazed, power mad person. Rob Reiner was one on preschool – took a GREAT idea and screwed it up. And Daphne Phung who is behind the human trafficking one that passed – and ruined a very GOOD law and made it so bad it will harm, not help, victims. DAMN!

  • AdLib : Night! Take care CL and let’s catch up next week!

  • choicelady : ‘Night all. See you next week I hope!

  • AdLib : Guess that’s why in some cases, initiatives are better than leg votes.

  • choicelady : AdLib – yes. Shudder!

  • AdLib : As bad as it is on the Left, imagine how rampant it is on the right.

  • choicelady : AdLib – Yup. It boggles my mind, but it’s true.

  • AdLib : CL – Oh, I know it, you and I have chatted about how egocentric and power obsessed even those who work for altruistic causes can be. Look at the folks who blew the single payer bill. You’ve seen it again and again, right?

  • choicelady : ADLib – thank you for another great VOX. ‘Night everyone! Good weekend to all!

  • choicelady : AdLib – THAT was an understatement! We probably have to take these reform packages in smaller bits. But the real problem is my peers who lobby – they saw it as a threat to their entrenched power. And I’m talking about people similar to me who lobby for health,people in poverty – NOT corporate types! It was very discouraging. They are as power oriented as anyone. One guy who does health care stuff is as power hungry as the NRA lobbyist! I am NOT kidding.

  • AdLib : Well…looks like it’s that time, closing up the Vox Populi bar for the night on this, the Obama Re-Election Celebration edition! Cheers to all and thanks for all you’ve done along the way to support the President’s re-election! Have a great weekend all, you deserve it!

  • AdLib : too

  • AdLib : CL – Sounds like a great get together. Sorry 31 didn’t pass, I voted for it but I think it was a little to complicated for enough voters to appreciate.

  • SallyT : Murph, you get turning that soil over for the winter and I will watch for you on here later.

  • choicelady : AdLib – I’m off tomorrow to a party with the CA Forward folks. They loved I supported 31 and, even though it failed, a lot of good discussion came out of it. It offered us a chance for real grassroots democracy at the local level, and we will be celebrating where we go from here with what we’ve learned. They are supporting my union coop plans, too! So it will be a very good in-gathering of very good people!

  • SallyT : Good night, Bito. I hope to find you here again late night with me sometime this weekend.

  • AdLib : CL – Let me know how your adventures go next week in finding someone to get HOPE out of lockup! Have a relaxing weekend!

  • SallyT : KQ, rest and will see you on here later. I have a cartoon picked out just for you!

  • choicelady : bito dear – take care of you, please?

  • AdLib : Bito, you take care too and rest up. We need you in good shape, pal!

  • choicelady : Murph – farming is a 24/7 life, so I can imagine. Get rest and good luck catching up! THANK YOU for all you have done. You have changed the world!

  • AdLib : Murph – Looks like you’ve got a real green thumb at what you put your hand to, congrats again! Rest up and have a great weekend!

  • bito : Night KQ, You hung in longer than I did Brother,

  • SallyT : KQ, I got a Vicodin if you need one. Hope you feel better soon!

  • choicelady : Sorry sally – hit the return – I want to become the resident Biblical scholar of “The Song of Solomon”. It’s amazingly racy!

  • MurphTheSurf3 : Time to call it a night. Lots of farm work to catch up on (for some odd reason).

  • choicelady : Sally – ya think? I swear I want to become the scholar of

  • AdLib : Sorry KQ, get your meds and some rest. And don’t overdo Vox, when you’re feeling not so hot, please don’t hesitate to head out, don’t want you feeling bad.

  • SallyT : Gee, CL, I think they do that with the Bible, too.

  • choicelady : Oh KQ – did you HAVE a bone marrow and is it killing you? Yikes how awful! I’m sorry you’re in pain whatever the reason! Take good care of yourself!

  • SallyT : KQ, that is something everyone wishes they could do is see into the future but that might be a bad thing, too. Sometimes it just pays to wait.

  • KQµårk 死神 : OK folks I gotta go can’t stand the pain anymore.