• SallyT : Good night, AdLib!

  • AdLib : That’s good news all the way around! Night!

  • SallyT : She feels like she is contributing to everything again.

  • SallyT : You have a great weekend and holiday, too. Oh, thanks AdLib. She is so excited about it. So far likes it too!

  • AdLib : And props again to your daughter for nailing that job!

  • AdLib : Looks like it, Sally! Thanks for helping to make it another great conversation tonight! Have a great weekend and holiday!

  • SallyT : It seems we are always the two to turn off the lights.

  • SallyT : Well, my friend, it is just you and me again to close it down.

  • SallyT : I am with you there, Adlib!

  • AdLib : Sally – After seeing what happened with OWS, I have little trust in the NYPD to act as a responsible law enforcement group.

  • SallyT : I hope so, too, KQ! Have a good night and I will see you on here later.

  • SallyT : It’s like they get all dressed up for the parade and nothing happens and all they have left to do is clean up the shit after the horses. They want to be part of the action and even if they have to start it.

  • AdLib : Night KQ! Hope wifey has a smooth procedure and feels good quickly! Have a great weekend!

  • AdLib : A few quotes from the piece and a link to it, fascinating and a bit scary: “In 60 Minutes feature on NYPD anti-terror arsenal, top cop claims ability to “take down a plane”. Kelly has built something else that most New Yorkers never see. It is nearly impossible now to walk a block in lower Manhattan without being on television. There are 2,000 cameras, and soon there will be 3,000 – all of which feed into this control center housed in a secret location. Jessica Tisch: Nobody has a system like this. Jessica Tisch helps run this $150 million surveillance system that monitors the cameras and all those radiation detectors. A powerful computer, using artificial intelligence actually watches all of the cameras at once and it knows if a package has been left in one place too long. «link»

  • SallyT : You know, AdLib, I do see all those guys in their riot gear getting carried away. I mean, in a way, small way, they seem to be pushing for it in some cases.

  • SallyT : Well, I was just hanging out with you, two. When you guys go, I go.

  • AdLib : KQ – That’s not really the case about the NYPD. There was a 60 Minutes piece about how they are a militarily and intelligence trained mini army now, very sophisitcated and using high tech surveillance throughout Manhattan.

  • SallyT : That is just mean, AdLib!

  • KQµårk 死神 : Shit gotta go did not know how late it got. Gotta pay some attention to the wifey obviously she’s nervous about tomorrow.

  • KQµårk 死神 : To me comparing the FBI to the NYPD is like comparing the Maybery PD to Raleigh PD

  • AdLib : In Sacramento, the messed up mayor has outlawed the bringing of fresh water and portable toilets to where the homeless are and have been because they don’t want them “established” there. No water or bathrooms for human beings? Meanwhile, the ex-basketball player is trying to use city funds to remodel the basketball stadium!

  • KQµårk 死神 : IDK AdLib again that’s an assumption. I think they just pursue cases they think are a real threat. Are they perfect of course not. Are they over zealous of course. I really don’t see a quota system though.

  • AdLib : Just giving an example where law enforcement messed up. That time it was the NYPD but law enforcement can mess up. I do agree that Obama has been instituting reforms in the FBI and that Dems do make government work better…because unlike the GOP, their party isn’t premised on the idea that government is bad “and we’ll prove it!”

  • SallyT : I guess, AdLib. But, that like saying, “Yes, that plane crashed but look how many haven’t.” It is going to happen. And, if they don’t get the FDA up and running probably sooner then later!

  • KQµårk 死神 : Sally that’s for sure. He was the most powerful man in America for years and years with his rogue agency.

  • SallyT : Well, the FBI had J Edgar for way too long.

  • KQµårk 死神 : I think the whole OWS movement has showed how much state and local law enforcement agencies have to reform.

  • AdLib : Sally – I think part of this too is preparing Americans for the time that the next attack happens. There will be something else someday, they know it and I think they’d like to be able to say, “Damn, we stopped them the 10 previous times!”

  • KQµårk 死神 : Sure the Feds can eff up AdLib but giving an example where the Feds did not mess up doesn’t help the case that they will. There have been many reforms in the FBI and other agencies we don’t even know about. Just to pick one remember the huge effort Obama made to revamp the FBI’s investigation process. I doubt reformed stopped there. It just doesn’t make the news. I’ve always made a huge contention that Dems manage government better because they care about government and I think it’s taken a while and there are still rogue agencies but things are just not like they were before.

  • SallyT : That is sad. Too many are Vets, too.

  • AdLib : KQ – Just discussed this with Choicelady earlier in the week, the UN has called out Sacramento for its aggressive policies to harass and deny care and services for the homeless. The game is trying to harass them into “self-deporting ” soewhere else…but there is nowhere else nearby so they are just forced to suffer harassment.

  • SallyT : I hope they did everything right, too. But, I hate that they keep us in fear that there is someone out there that can blow us up. Yes, there are nuts out there but there will always be.