• AdLib : Well, looks like time to wrap up this edition of Vox Populi. Thanks to all for a rousing discussion. Watch out for falling satellites and have a great weekend! See you next week!

  • AdLib : Night AD, have a wonderful weekend!

  • Khirad : Night Em and AD.

  • ADONAI : Yeah it is pretty late. I think I’ll follow you Em. Night all. Peace be with you.

  • AdLib : Sweet dreams Emerald, so glad you’re back full time at The Planet!

  • Emerald1943 : Hey everyone, I’ve got to sign off. It’s almost 1am and I need a little shut-eye! I hope everyone has a good night! I’ll see you all tomorrow..and thanks for a great discussion!

  • AdLib : EM – That’s my point, I think the Dems and Obama completely turned the Class Warfare BS against the Repubs, they lost that propaganda war. And they’ll lose this one. Sometimes you have to draw a line in the sand and refuse to deal with terrorists, now is a perfect time to do that and make them pay the price.

  • ADONAI : I don’ think history really matters anymore. You could show people how things have worked for thousands of years, and what policies have failed and succeeded time and time again but it won’t matter. This is really what George Washington warned us about. Political Parties dividing the nation and one Party basically destroying the place to advance their narrow agenda.

  • AdLib : The Baggers’ view is, “We give them a bill and if they don’t sign it, it’s their fault!” They have blind faith in their propaganda but don’t factor in that Obama has a bully pulpit and far more trust from the American People than they do. He stands up and explains thier unwillingness to do as all Congresses have before, approving FEMA funds without cuts, and they will lokk guilty and lose. Slimy bastards think they’re smarter than they are.

  • Emerald1943 : Bito, they actually want to abolish FEMA, never mind cuts!

  • bito : They want to trade FEMA funding for a green autos jobs funding.

  • Emerald1943 : Adlib, the President has made some good points in his speeches about “class warfare” and the people love it. They are not fooled one bit.

  • AdLib : EM – They may be betting on Dems being afraid that they will be blamed but the more they try to push that BS, just like the Class Warfare BS, the more it turns back on them.

  • Emerald1943 : Adonai, you might think they could come up with something that the public would not see the need for as we do with FEMA. Katrina is still too fresh in people’s minds.

  • AdLib : AD – It’s not FEMA, it’s Baggers. Baggers don’t want FEMA to prove government is needed AND they have a simple-minded dogma of “No money can be spent without cuts!”

  • Emerald1943 : Adlib, well let’s just hope it has the same results this time. They really are out of time to get this done if they are going to recess next week.

  • ADONAI : Why FEMA though? After everything that has happened the last decade, why FEMA?

  • AdLib : Em – They’re barely literate! As the saying goes, those who don’t learn from history are doomed to repeat it. Baggers don’t learn, hence, they’re thrilled about doing exactly what sunk Repubs in Newt’s era.

  • Emerald1943 : Adlib, you would think they would have learned from Newt’s history…but then, I guess they don’t read history!

  • AdLib : Em – I feel the same way. I don’t want the economy or people to be hurt but too many people are open to electing a Bagger President, suffering may be the only teacher they learn from.

  • Emerald1943 : Adlib, while I don’t want anyone to get hurt by this, I am almost hoping it happens. That should wake up the rest of the people who haven’t been watching!

  • AdLib : Em – Just playing around. FEMA would have to provide help and funds to all states and areas according to its guidelines.

  • AdLib : I do see a possibility of a government shutdown and no deal. The Dems seem fed up with compromising and the Baggers have no capability for compromising. Imagine how the dynamics of 2012 would change overnight if the Baggers succeeded in shutting down government…whi ch is their dream.

  • Emerald1943 : Adlib, I don’t know how that works. Are the funds just sent to the state?

  • AdLib : Em – I do like the idea of a bill that requires the pols from a district simply to ask for FEMA funds to receive them. Then, that’s on the record!

  • Emerald1943 : Patsy, good night friend! Hope you sleep well!

  • AdLib : Sleep well Patsy and great work on the Nuke front!

  • Emerald1943 : Adlib, I know that, but it would be poetic justice! After all, you get what you vote for.

  • ADONAI : Nite Patsy!

  • AdLib : Chris, being impressed goes both ways! Great to have you here tonight! Have a wonderful weekend!

  • PatsyT : I must say good night… You all have a wonderful weekend!

  • Emerald1943 : Chris, I wish you weren’t going away! We’ll miss you! Please come back next week! And rest well!

  • AdLib : EM – Though it would be appropriate, FEMA can’t discriminate that way. I hate to say this because it will hurt many but part of me wants the Baggers to finally get their way and learn what Newt learned when Clinton was Pres, you shut down government and you empower the Pres and turn the public against you.

  • ADONAI : Peace chris

  • PatsyT : Have a great night Chris

  • ADONAI : Pretty sure that’s the Chinese symbol for farts

  • Khirad : Night Chris.

  • ChrisR266 : Thanks, everyone, for the grand and interesting discussion this evening. To say I am impressed with you is an understatement. I value you all very much. Enjoy your weekend, and may the hours of your day be bathed in sunshine and joy.

  • ADONAI : Of course they’ll be supported Al. These people are fucking crazy. It’s not the Republican’s fault. It;s Obama’s, or the Mexicans, or gay servicemen and women, or any thing that keeps their world view in tact.

  • Emerald1943 : Adlib, although I know it would hurt the people, it would only be fair if FEMA funds were withheld from the districts where their reps have insisted on cuts.

  • Khirad : This was the “Arabic” «link»