• AdLib : Bito – Sweet!!!

  • bito : “They just announced on Madison’s Radio Station WTDY that they officially have enough signatures to Recall Hopper! #wiunion”

  • AdLib : Night CL!

  • choicelady : G’night everybody! Have a good week everyone, wherever you may be.

  • choicelady : BDM – that is SO cool! In CA no one is allowed to pick up ballots, so they have to be mailed, but driving people even just to drop the ballot AT the poll even if the person is physically unable to vote there, is very wonderful for the voting person. Thank you for doing that!

  • choicelady : Chris = the decision NOT to become engaged is a real loss to democracy. Unlike any other system, it is built on engagement. Read Tocqueville – it was what excited him most about America. People don’t just vote – they are part of civic groups, discussions, forums, advocacy organizations – it is what keeps us a vital polity. We have lost that art as things get more professionalized , but there are still campaigns where direct engagement is necessary, whether it’s for a person or an issue. There is a need for good minds on party committees. There is a need for people to do advocacy regularly with elected officials. Democracy dies when we sit it out. It thrives when we work for what we want. Simple as that.

  • BigDogMom : I’m fading fast too, night all, peace to all…

  • AdLib : Perhaps it’s a good time then to wrap tonight’s edition of Vox Populi. Thanks to all for making it another fantastic evening! Have a wonderful weekend!

  • BigDogMom : Me too, s/b “absentee ballot”…

  • PatsyT : I am fading too….. I’ll have to say good night to all

  • BigDogMom : CL-Our Registrars go to the homes and the ones that are able, fill out an absentee vote, if not they pile into one of our cars and we take them…which they love!

  • choicelady : ChrisR – I do think those locked into nursing homes and yet still sharp of mind must be in a living hell. They want to be part of the process but cannot. Most of us though CAN. It is our choice whether to help or sit it out. We have lots we can do – even people in nursing homes can make phone calls to get out the vote. They can stuff envelopes, they can TALK to others and get them to do stuff.

  • BigDogMom : Nite Chris, peace and happiness to you, sleep well

  • PatsyT : Nighty night Chris, hey how was the game?

  • BigDogMom : When I was on the board of our little library, I held two a year with the Registrars, might just go talk to the head of our Dem party next week to see if I can get involved in that again

  • ChrisR266 : I wish you all wellness and restfulness. Keep on keeping on.

  • ChrisR266 : Ok all, done for the evening.

  • choicelady : BDM – don’t worry. With us boomers on the skids, your home for retired people will fill, your car will be full, and you will be very much needed!

  • PatsyT : BDM my local Dem Club does voter regs at the local collages and the malls… lots of young voters there.

  • ChrisR266 : Pt. two: I think I’m speaking to a more fundamental issue, an assumptive one about how we view the nature of our nation and our responsibility to our fellow citizens.

  • BigDogMom : Chris, another place that needs help is working at the polls, in our area it is mainly the retired people that work them, but their numbers are dropping, the Registrar of Voters is always looking for “young people”

  • ChrisR266 : AdLib: but that’s the point: children cannot vote. Teenagers cannot vote. Indigent and many elderly people can’t vote because of circumstance or active discrimination. And, we have enough of a database on voter trends in this nation to know that the voting population does not reflect at all the actual demographic array of the nation.

  • choicelady : BDM – the League everywhere is different, but they are totally non-partisan. Most places they do outstanding analyses of ballot issues. It’s worth a look. They also run campaign forums where the candidates are grilled. They are definitely a good group to look into.

  • BigDogMom : CL/Adlib-I drive “my ladies” from the home to the polls every year, but my numbers are dwindling…

  • choicelady : BDM – that is a HUGE contribution to turning hearts and minds. If people respect your husband, then they will listen to him, and that’s super! And ACCE is up and strong and vibrant here in CA – I absolutely LOVE them!

  • BigDogMom : Patsy, was thinking of joining the league of women voters here in town, looks like they could use the help, just hope it’s not like the “Junior League” though

  • AdLib : Night Funk!

  • choicelady : ChrisR – same answer – you can work any election, do whatever needs doing, and help. It is a very important aspect of democracy that abets voting. Undocumented people can drive folks who are citizens to the polls. Everyone can do something. And should!

  • AdLib : Chris – Those who don’t vote contribute to their circumstances by giving more power over their lives to those that do vote. When they stand by in elections like 2010, when people with terrible intent are trying to grab power, they do have a responsibility for standing by and doing nothing. Yet, they are not solely responsible for their circumstances.

  • BigDogMom : CL, it’s best to just discuss and share info, educate those who are asking questions, like my husband does

  • choicelady : ChrisR – no do NOT boycott the Kochs’ paper industries. They are UNION (Steelworkers) and are just fragile enough in this economy that loss of business would justify their attempts to bust the union. They are interlocked though with major corporations – AT&T being one where Charles sits on that board of directors – and you can tell AT&T that you won’t give business to any company stupid enough to have Charles Koch on its board. The CWA folks are strong enough to withstand a boycott of AT&T. The Georgia Pacific unions are much more fragile.

  • PatsyT : BDM… everyone should be working on voter registration

  • BigDogMom : Chris, that’s why getting rid of ACORN was so important to the GOP, those are the people that ACORN served…we need to build the new Acorn/ACCE back up again

  • PatsyT : Nighty night Funk… I am going to be on the lookout for websites …..

  • ChrisR266 : Good slumber to you, kes.

  • ChrisR266 : Sleep restfully, Funk.

  • AdLib : Funk – Totally agree!

  • choicelady : As a trained historian (you MAY try this at home) I know we beat the crap our of the Robber Barons a century ago with NO social networking, NO union strength, NO money – nothing but the power of the people. Did it then. WILL do it today. The point is not to overproduce this and tell the PEOPLE what to do. They know. They know full well what to do and they are NOT BACKING DOWN!!!

  • AdLib : Night Kes!

  • ChrisR266 : Choice: sorry, I think you misunderstand me. I was engaging in an hypothetical re the question I posed. I can vote and do religiously. I was asking, what about those who can’t? There are millions of them, and the vast majority of them are not illegal aliens. No one seems willing to deal with the issue of what all this politicking means for the millions of people who must bear the consequences of these votes and elections.

  • PatsyT : Nighty Night Kes… you have a great weekend

  • funksands : Kes, right behind you. Enjoy your weekend everyone. Ad, thanks as always for hosting.

  • BigDogMom : Nite kes, take care

  • kesmarn : Well, friends, starting to get a little dozy here, so before I start typing in my sleep I’d better say good night. Y’all have a great weekend!

  • choicelady : Sweet Dreams, Cher!

  • kesmarn : Good news, BDM! and c’lady!

  • funksands : If someone wants to hit the Koch brothers where they live, make the capital gains tax 50%.

  • choicelady : kes – I did hear that. Also heard it’s going nowhere.

  • BigDogMom : kes, I heard the GOP has given up on the Dem recall, they had to bring in a outside firm to do it

  • ChrisR266 : If someone wants to hit the Koch brothers where they live, they organize and execute a boycott of every single paper product their companies produce.

  • AdLib : CL – It is amazing. Though they haven’t reached the 50% mark in each district, as they need to, they’re confident they will and I think they’re right.