• AdLib : Night!

  • AdLib : The public has such a corporately-crea ted short attention span, that would be hard to change.

  • kesmarn : If only we could get the public off their roller coaster, AdLib! Good night again!

  • AdLib : Night all and thanks for another enjoyable and intriguing edition of Vox Populi! Have a great weekend Kes and Patsy!

  • AdLib : hey, there are even Repubs who want to bring back child labor! This is a brief phase and the fickle public will swing back away from these nutjob Repubs. It’s amazing how Repubs have no memory for what happened two years ago as well, how their extremism alienated the public. All the better for us.

  • kesmarn : I hear you, Patsy. I must call it a day, too. Hope everyone has a fun weekend! Thanks for another great Vox!

  • PatsyT : Say folks I am fading So I will have to bid you good night… Have a wonderful Weekend!

  • AdLib : Patsy – Saw him and his game was so obvious. He didn’t even look like he bought what he was saying. It’s all getting so hard to say with a straight face anymore.

  • kesmarn : The only kind of certainty those guys would settle for, Patsy, is guaranteed 0% tax rate for eternity and a return to a minimum wage of $.40/hr.

  • AdLib : Kes – That’s all inside baseball BS for the 2%ers. The 98% are too busy trying to get through these times, by the time they do, they’re not going to blame themselves for it. I don’t think such efforts will be successful.

  • kesmarn : The whole world lost respect for us under Bush, and who could blame them? But the RW frames it as a sort of mindless anti-Americanism . “They hate our freedoms.” Idiocy.

  • PatsyT : AdLib, that Instook guy from Heritage Foundation was on one of the shows today going on about how they still need to get rid of uncertainty! Someone needs to tell these boys to put on their big boy pants and man up!

  • AdLib : Who is pining for the Bush days of lies, war, corruption, torture and a crashing economy? He will be seen as our most destructive president, especially because of the critical time when he was president and pushed America over the cliff.

  • kesmarn : They either forget or re-write history. Even history that people should be able to remember, dammit! Krugman wrote a column yesterday about how the RW is re-framing the financial collapse in terms that absolve Wall St. totally and blame govt and the poor for it.

  • AdLib : Obama was elected, we woke up from our nightmare but we still remember it. The Swing Voters, not so much.

  • kesmarn : Sometimes I think all they comprehend is: Bush=stock market up

  • AdLib : Bush was a nightmare and too many in America don’t seem to be able to remember their dreams.

  • kesmarn : Patsy, it truly was one of those “Why? Why?” moments…only it lasted for years

  • AdLib : Patsy – It seems like a probability to me. Add all those advantages on Obama’s side, along with him appearing as the reasonable adult and the GOP appearing as the lunatic radicals, it seems headed in that direction. I mean, with nearly 10% unemployment and losing the midterms, he’s STILL polling to beat all Repub nominees.

  • PatsyT : Kes when they read that Supreme Court decision, I cried like a baby I could not stop. I had to go in the other room so I would not frighten my kids.

  • kesmarn : I hear, though, that we need to keep an eye on cities and states that are teetering on the edge of bankruptcy. Could be round two of some financial issues…

  • PatsyT : Ooo I like that AdLib

  • AdLib : I agree, I appreciate the feelings of Dems who feel disappointed but come 2012, with all Obama’s remarkable accomplishments and the economy improving, I think he will be re-elected and maybe, Dems retake the House.

  • kesmarn : AdLib…8 years of Gore…it makes me weep to think what might have been. Instead we got George the Wrecking Ball.

  • PatsyT : I hope that Wiki dude is listening … what am I kidding of course he is

  • kesmarn : In this area there are some “green shoots” at last. The GM transmission plant here is actually talking about adding a night shift! And I’ve seen some “help wanted” signs out there! If the jobs start coming back, I think Obama will have a cakewalk.

  • AdLib : Kes – So true, those elections were stolen. We should have had 8 years of a Gore presidency instead of Bush. Hate to think about it but imagine how different things would be if we never went to war in Iraq, had the Bush tax cuts, torture, etc.

  • PatsyT : How about a little story on election rigging? and the Supreme Court

  • AdLib : As mentioned below, the TP and GOP are powered by anger. Well, anger is not eternal, it eventually explodes or diffuses and has a way of turning on itself.

  • kesmarn : When you consider that the 2000 and 2004 elections were likely stolen, I have to say this has been a totally crazy decade for American politics.

  • PatsyT : Well there is the Bachman Botox scandal. The Issa is a crook affair. The Palin is a fake story

  • AdLib : Jinx and no tag backs!

  • AdLib : Consider the last three elections, 2006, 2008 and 2010, all reflected dismay at those in power. The Dems benefited in the first two elections because they were out of power. Now, the Repubs are being presented as being powerful and in control of the agenda. 2012 will not let them off the hook.

  • kesmarn : We are a jinxy bunch on Vox! Patsy, the MSM will go where the drama is, and I think TPers in Congress will give ’em plenty!

  • PatsyT : Kes that would be sweet for the Wiki dude to get after huffy po

  • PatsyT : You Two jinx!

  • PatsyT : OK so maybe this means that there are some real boogie men and women (Bachman) to go after and they can let up on Obama

  • kesmarn : Me too, Patsy. And the Wiki dude could put his talents to good use with the RWers and the banks and Wall Street and HuffyPo…

  • AdLib : Patsy – Me too but the Swing Voters seem to think that only Repubs are allowed to be aggressive in their political ads.

  • AdLib : I think that all these lemmings need is a gentle push off the cliff and they’ll all follow each other over the edge. The power they’ll have in the House is just the push they’ll need.

  • PatsyT : I liked that Taliban Dan Ad!

  • kesmarn : The only thing the TP has going for it is a muddled sort of “Are you mad? We’re mad! Join us!” appeal…there’ s no “there” there.

  • AdLib : Patsy, yes but Grayson was way ahead until his “Taliban Dan” ad, then he tanked. It’s nuts.

  • PatsyT : Can’t we get that Wiki dude to pick on the Repubs and their campaign cash and trash?

  • AdLib : What does the GOP stand for without the TP? They are a de facto minority party without the TP…but in order to keep the monster they created on their team, they have to become just like it. How is that sustainable? I just don’t see it.