kesmarn : People will see that they “got nuthin'” AdLib. But they should have been able to figure that out already! Now, I really will say good night! Thanks for another great Fri. night!
AdLib : Night Kes, thanks for helping to make it another great discussion tonight!
AdLib : Kes – I think that’s going to have to happen, there is a silver lining to the GOP controlling the House, they will be responsible for what happens in the country too. The down side would be 2 years of nothing happening to help the nation and a witch hunt on Obama instead.
AdLib : HITO – Very good to know! Cheers!
kesmarn : And on that note, I’ll say good night, too! G’night all!
kesmarn : AdLib, I’ve had that same feeling about the RW. There’s a part of me that says: “OK. You have all the answers. You’re so sure of yourselves. Fix it!”
AdLib : Well, looks like a good time to bring tonight’s session to a close. Thanks Seek and Kes for everything! Sleep well and hopefully we’ll see you here next week. Goodnight!
HITO : Don’t forget, I type 140 wpm and am an excellent proofreader. Nuff said.
SeeknDestroy : Gonna take off as well…..Peace everyone!…:-)
AdLib : bito, sleep well, have a great weekend and thanks for all of your support at the site!
SeeknDestroy : Peace BITO
bitohistory : Good night all!!
AdLib : HITO – Thank you so much, my friend! Really appreciate all your support! Have a wonderful weekend!
HITO : GN, bito
kesmarn : Good night, bito! Good night, HITO! Sleep well!
bitohistory : peace
bitohistory : Sorry, kids. but I am going to leave you, my friends
HITO : HITO is sleepy. I’m going kids. Love you all. And JohnnyAdlib, I posted THE link tonight about 5 times, while trying to get a couple of the kids over here. I LOVE live commenting and I can’t thank you enough. Whatever you need, let me know A, I’m there for you. Hope everyone’s weather is cool enough to promote a comfortable sleep. Good night.
AdLib : Either way, whether the GOP has a bigger minority or a majority in COngress, it will change the dynamic about them whining about their having better ideas. 2012 won’t be the cakewalk 2010 is for them, they won’t be able to avoid their lack of progress then.
kesmarn : One of the Mercy folks tonight said that people crave the certainty and rigidity of the RW’s style. Simple, black and white “ideas.” Top down authority structure, etc., because of all the trauma and uncertainty of life in the 21st century.
AdLib : Kes –
AdLib : bito – Me too. They also don’t understand basic physics. The removal of support for one entity displaces that entity and the space it occupied must be filled by another entity. Nature abhors a vacuum which is why Glenn Beck shields his head from nature.
SeeknDestroy : LOL
kesmarn : AdLib: Graham is a cracker who should be buried, because we sure don’t need “S’more.”
SeeknDestroy : Glen Beck teaches them *history*
bitohistory : They also don’t know history, AdLib. Pisses me off!
kesmarn : With friends like them, who needs enemies?
AdLib : kes – Graham is a cracker and like a seed, should be buried.
AdLib : bito – I have talked with some of these purists, some who are at Huffy, there is no more reasoning one can do with them than Birthers. They are convinced that they know Obama has betrayed them and the Progressive movement and in their narrow minds, the only way to get what they want is to harass him endlessly. They are total ideologues.
bitohistory : Toaist bastards?
kesmarn : The Graham seed is in Mr. Graham, which would make him a cracker.
bitohistory : can we get huffy, FDL, Kos, Turks to give the man a break? this is as close a progressive as we have had since Francis Perkins in the WH!!
SeeknDestroy : i sure hope so
AdLib : Can you make Burlington Coats out of muslin?
AdLib : How about this, if the worst happens and the GOP does get control of the House…and they do dedicate the next two years to nothing other than trying to lynch Obama, as with Clinton, won’t the public’s sympathies swing back to Obama?
SeeknDestroy : LOL
SeeknDestroy : taech me, HITO
HITO : Muslim seeds in an old Burlington Coat Factory Outlet…Epic!
SeeknDestroy : tiny mosques
SeeknDestroy : LOL
AdLib : I planted Muslim seeds this spring and was just about to harvest my crop when I found they had built an Islamic Center there in the meantime. Terrorist bastards!
SeeknDestroy : and a few good breaks…I still support him
HITO : Yes, typing. I should teach you grasshopper.
kesmarn : Maybe, if he can just hang in there, the novelty of throwing rocks at him will wear off. Eventually public opinion will turn if he can hang tough long enough. But it’s going to take some amazing endurance.
SeeknDestroy : typing!
SeeknDestroy : they doo seem to set the tone with thge media….liberal , mt ass
AdLib : This is one reason I wanted to collaborate with folks on a letter urging Obama to make a fiery speech. He needs to be bold or the public will keep drifting away from him under all the manipulation and propaganda of the RW.
HITO : Adlib, uh oh, you’ve just destroyed half of fox news bullshit reports and Billy Graham’s bullshit “the father’s muslim seed is in him”.
SeeknDestroy : Storm Front
AdLib : bito – Or the Internets.
SeeknDestroy : no doubt,bito
AdLib : HITO – Actually, Obama’s dad wasn’t Muslim when Obama was born, he had left the faith.
bitohistory : seek, maybe but Truman didn’t have to put up with cable.
HITO : Adlib, you better get Michelle on the phone. I think O would be grateful to you for offering that logic.
SeeknDestroy : I’d vote for him again…no question
HITO : Seek: Obama deserves a break today. Wonder if he knew what he was signing up for. Because he is 1/2 black, because his father was muslim, because he is intelligent…we ll there are just three reasons alone that the repubs hate on him.
AdLib : HITO – The thing is, once you become president, your commitment is to a nation first. His abandoning the WH for no reason other than wanting to spend time with his family would be like the captain of a ship jumping into a lifeboat with his family so they could be safe and not caring if the ship hit an iceberg. I don’t think he would do that, no matter how much Michelle might want it, the first AA President can’t abandon a second term.
kesmarn : I think at times, they’re all goading him and making bets on when he’ll blow up. Just waiting. Then if he shows any temper at all they can claim victory and say that he lost control. What a spot to be in. Like a junior high teacher with an unruly class.
SeeknDestroy : yes?
bitohistory : Seek
SeeknDestroy : they are BRUTAL on him…the most bashed POTUS EVER
bitohistory : “Excuse me people, I haven’t learned to walk on water in 19 months”
HITO : Adlib, it’s not about quitting. It’s about loving your wife and kids more. I spotted his crazy love for them, and good for him. If I were Michelle…he’d step away and write a good book. He can’t do more than he has. SHIT look at his hair…grey…lo ok at his more than slim physique. Oy.
AdLib : Kes – Beacuse the Dems let them push that “forget about Bush” meme. There are times when I just want to kick the ass of the Dem Party. But Rahm will do for me.
SeeknDestroy : Limbaugh got in a pre-emptive strike and it’s been mostly downhill since, I hate to say
AdLib : Seek- Repubs are never responsible for what they say, that is the first rule of GOP Club.
kesmarn : b’ito, for some reason it always seems to stick when the Repubs say: “It’s time to stop blaming Bush.” It’s NEVER time to stop blaming Bush, because he’s the one who wrecked everything!
AdLib : bito – Fucking people forgot what happened a year and a half ago?!
SeeknDestroy : they blamed clinton ALL 8 YEARS on Fox news
kesmarn : People are so deluded, they think if they vote T-Party, they’re rejecting both of the mainstream parties in protest. What they don’t realize is they’re getting something even worse.
AdLib : HITO – I think it’s highly unlikely that Obama would refuse to run for re-election. He is not a quitter.
bitohistory : I heard an R say to day that “the dems can’t bring up Bush–he about forgotten” Fucking people forgot 8 fucking years?
HITO : So if O says NO, what’s the option…Alan Grayson, Kucinich? Where do we go? Love Tony Weiner, Congressman, Queens, NY, but is he ready to take on the DC alumni?
AdLib : A lot of Obama’s re-election will come down to campaign strategy. Go after the GOP hard and invoke Bush policies that destroyed the country without looking like he’s campaigning against Bush. And, tout all his accomplishments that too many take for granted.
SeeknDestroy : the GOP put us here in the first place…also forgotten
HITO : Amnesia is all the repubs have…and it’s been proven time and again to work.
kesmarn : b’ito i would not be surprised if it’s Palin, possibly on a 3rd party ticket.
AdLib : Romney is the most likely nominee. Palin? Unfavorables are so high on her. Huckabee? He has a WIllie Horton problem. Who else? I think it will likely be Romney.
SeeknDestroy : As much as I like him, he gets NO respect
kesmarn : I thought when the Repubs blocked the unemployment extension, they had really shot themselves in the foot, but the Dems passed it and already it’s forgotten. AMNESIA abounds.
bitohistory : It’s early, but who would run against him?
AdLib : How insane is that?
HITO : I really feel Obama’s decision to re-up will be family based. And I don’t get a happy vibe from the spouse. Michelle is done with the shit they’ve thrown at her, her children and her husband who works too hard.
SeeknDestroy : fingers a flyin’….My HITO
AdLib : Will people really hand the economy back to a Repub after everything we’ve been through? Especially when we’re still trying to recover from what Repub control did to us?
AdLib : Heh! Thanks!
SeeknDestroy : 2
HITO : LOL, Adlib. Damn you’re clever.
kesmarn : Wow. That’s a tough one, AdLib. I hate to say it but I’d guess maybe a one in three chance that he’s a one termer. In which case, we are in deep doo-doo.
AdLib : Having a ball, HITO?
AdLib : I can’t say I’m as confident as I used to be but I don’t know if even those suffering through the economy would put Bush economics right back in after only 4 years of trying to recover from them.
SeeknDestroy : ?
HITO : Testicle?
bitohistory : I don’t know AdLib, like i said before Rayguns poll numbers were worse and the UnEmply was 10.8%. Where is that news? Is it because he is a black commie pinko?
SeeknDestroy : it depends on the economy
AdLib : WHO THINKS OBAMA WILL NOT BE RE-ELECTED?
SeeknDestroy : Ahem…HITO is experiencing Tech. Difficulties…. please stand by
AdLib : Romney. Was thinking of my pomegranate martini.
AdLib : As much as I talk about how stupid many of the Beck and Tea party supporters are…how stupid are those purist Dems for sowing the seeds of a Palin or Pomney presidency? What mo-rons!
kesmarn : Sometimes Obama seems like the G. Cooper figure in “High Noon.” No support from the blood-thirsty but cowardly townspeople. No support from the idealistic, pacifist wing. And being shot at by the bad guys.
SeeknDestroy : LIBS!
SeeknDestroy : and some of the libs would whine too
AdLib : “Hey Glenn…ya see that? DOINK!”
AdLib : Seek – Indeed, Obama could find a cure for cancer and Purist Dems would still hold hands with the GOP to condemn him for not finding a cure for obesity.
SeeknDestroy : Hey Glen!….doink!
AdLib : Lise – Will keep you in the loop on all, thanks so much!!!
kesmarn : The doink for a Beck eye-poke is all yours, with pleasure.
bitohistory : Nighty, nite, Lise
HITO : Adieu, Lise.
kesmarn : Good night, Lise! Glad you were here.
SeeknDestroy : Peace, LL..
AdLib : Night Lise!!!
AdLib : Kes – As long as I have a “doink” for each time I do a Moe eye poke on a photo of Beck.
LiseLives : Night you all, love you a lot !
HITO : Adlib, when I tell people about doing this I say “get your fingers fired up and get ready to post on the fly”. It’s really invigorating and quite addictive.
LiseLives : LOL _ so you guys understand if I say my adieu, for now – Let me know about the Radio thing & also AdLib, let me know how / where to send a check –
AdLib : Lise – It is kind of a rush doing this live chat. I remember after the first few times we did it, folks were wired including me!
SeeknDestroy : hic
SeeknDestroy : O is the Ridney Dangerfield of POTUS’s.
HITO : Fuck. Missed saying good night to Patsy. Sorry, Patsy, if you look at this in the morning, I’m sending you strength and courage to face your mommy demons when you bring her in. You can do it!
kesmarn : Maybe we could have a range of sound effects: flushing sounds for Rush, Homer Simpson’s “doh” for Dubya, etc.
AdLib : ONTO A NEW TOPIC, OBAMA ANNOUNCED THE END OF COMBAT IN IRAQ, PULLING OUT THE LAST OF COMBAT TROOPS AS HE PROMISED IN THE CAMPAIGN. YET, THIS AND HE GETS NO ATTENTION IN THE PRESS AND MOST DEMS DON’T SEEM TO CARE. THE OTHER PLACE COULD HAVE TITLED THEIR NEGATIVE ARTICLE ABOUT IT, “SO WHAT, WE’RE STILL IN AFGHANISTAN.” WHY DOESN’T OBAMA GET CREDIT EVEN FROM DEMS FOR ALL HE ACCOMPLISHES? IS IT THE ECONOMY OR SOMETHING ELSE?
kesmarn : Lise, KQ had the same reaction. Said it made his heart rate go up too fast. Takes a little getting used to.
HITO : Sorry, back
LiseLives : Let’s do the Radio thing – I’m there –
LiseLives : Guys & girls – I love you all a LLLLOT – but this here’s just a bit hard for me to keep up with – I feel all hyper –
LiseLives : My comment below is missing this – because what you said about everyone uncorking champagne was LOL – damn these comments split in 2 !AdLib – LMAO !!!
SeeknDestroy : Peace….POP
kesmarn : Safe travels!
AdLib : Night Patsy!!!
PatsyT : Nighty night AdLib, Seek, LiseLives, HITO, Kes, Bito…..
AdLib : Popcorn and champagne, sounds like a winning recipe for a radio show.
SeeknDestroy : snap .crackle…POP
kesmarn : Bye, Patsy! Best wishes to the new college girl. POP.
LiseLives : Could everyone who joins the radio show please keep a champagne bottle handy to cork and uncork when you speak?
SeeknDestroy : and we’re quite drunk
kesmarn : Old Man Daley. Many a hippie head was cracked by his efficient Chicago police force. Those were the days. POP.
AdLib : Bye Patsy, thanks for dropping by!!! Have a great weekend and a safe trip home!
SeeknDestroy : Peace, PT!
AdLib : Kes – Full at first, empty at the end of the hour. POP!
PatsyT : Hey guys I can’t stay… Just wanted to send a big hello from the midwest and Oh I love all the Obama stickers !!! Hope you all are well … Have a great week !!
SeeknDestroy : 10-4 good buddy….POP!
bitohistory : That was what was said about the Old man Daily!~ he may be a crook but the trash is picked up and the snow is plowed. He knew how to keep that city moving!
AdLib : We could call it, “Popping off at PlanetPOV”.
kesmarn : Empty or full? POP.
AdLib : Lise – Perfect! Could everyone who joins the radio show please keep a champagne bottle handy to cork and uncork when you speak?
kesmarn : Stay safe over there, Lise. POP.
LiseLives : OK, now really – BRB –
SeeknDestroy : the cork industry will love it!
kesmarn : Perfecto. POP.
AdLib : Kes – Here’s a little in advance, “What do you think Kes? POP!”
HITO : BRB, I’m on that fire Lise is responding to. sorry.
LiseLives : LOL – I’d miss the POPs too – I could open a bunch of bottles of champagne to simulate the sound
kesmarn : AdLib, that makes it all better. And worth it.
PatsyT : Mayor Daley has the city looking great ! This place is crawling with tourist from all over the states and world I never saw it look like this. There must be something to goverment!
SeeknDestroy : anything involving less typing works for me
AdLib : I can pop my mouth before each person speaks?
kesmarn : Radio call in sounds cool, but I’d miss the “pop-pops”.
AdLib : HITO and LISE – Yep, it would be at 8:00 pm PDT on a Friday Night and last an hour.
LiseLives : Friday nights right ?
LiseLives : AdLib – so here’s my vote : I’m in !
HITO : Adlib, lemme know if I can do anything to help. You’ve got my addy, it’s a good one, I’ll give you my phone numba, cucumba.
AdLib : Lise – Hurry back!
bitohistory : Oh, I miss Chi-town !!!Drink a beer at a corner tavern for me , patsy
LiseLives : BRB – got 2 emails – gotta support 2 of my ladies on Huff – a drama –
kesmarn : I think it’s against the law for American trains to run on time.
AdLib : Cool HITO! It will take me a little while to get it organized, not until next month (hopefully) but I’ll contact everyone here who’s interested with the details on joining me on the show and we will of course do our best to get the word out to all Planeteers when it’s scheduled.
HITO : Trains don’t run on time, silly. They’re not built for that. Jeesh.
kesmarn : And I’ll bet the trains run on time, too, Patsy!
PatsyT : Chicago has come a long way from the last time I was here. That Librul Gangster Govberment has taken over… The place looks amazing!
SeeknDestroy : Isn’t Drew Carey the King of Cleveland?
HITO : Phew. Thanks. Skype? You could generate a little Skype revs….I’m liking it. Wow. Hearing our voices would be epic. I remember when I heard Seek’s. Shit very cool. OK, I’m in.
AdLib : I think we’d need three or four at most as a discussion panel but we could take calls and people should be able to chat like this and ask questions or make statements too.
kesmarn : Cleveland is in a world of its own, b’ito!
LiseLives : It would be for all of us time-wise right ?
AdLib : Cool, Lise! Anyone else interested in joining in on a Planet radio show? Hey HITO – it’s all by phone so people anywhere, even out of the country could be on the show!
LiseLives : HITO – nowhhhhah !
HITO : Wait wait wait. You’re ditching my NY ass on Vox, for a call in for only westies? No No. Sobs uncontrollably.
LiseLives : AdLib – a test is a good idea –
SeeknDestroy : sounds cool AdLib..:-)
kesmarn : Patsy, is the daughter going to be a music major? (O/T I know, but just for a sec. I want to know)
bitohistory : Is Cleveland in the mid-west or dixie?
LiseLives : Adlib – let’s do it –
AdLib : Lise – Yep, though before committing to a PlanetPOV internet radio show as an ongoing thing, I’d like to give it a test on a Friday night to see how it goes and if people like it.
LiseLives : Shit the F up ….LOL – that too ))
kesmarn : Ouch!
SeeknDestroy : she has pointy shoes too!
HITO : Nobody would tell you to shit the F up, Lise. I’d kick their ass. Silly.
LiseLives : I’ll do it AdLib – in a heartbeat – Friday nights right ?
SeeknDestroy : and NV….for now
PatsyT : Sounds like you guys have been busy to night … yes midwest taking oldest daughter to school … Ohio tomorrow
AdLib : Lise – We do have several members in CA, that could be arranged. We have several in AZ too. Maybe we post a potential meetup article and see who’s interested?
HITO : PATSY!!!!!!!!!!! you ok? How’d the kid move go? Have enough kleenex?
kesmarn : Are you in Cleve -a- land, Patsy?
LiseLives : Adlib – I’d do a call in thing, but everybody would tell me to take 5 & just shut the F up !
HITO : “NO wait my son ate it” LMFAO Kes
SeeknDestroy : lol@ kes
bitohistory : patsy-midwest?
kesmarn : Hey, Patsy!
SeeknDestroy : PatsyT!
LiseLives : Hiya Patsy !!
kesmarn : Seek, I can see the difference alllllllready.
AdLib : Patsy!! Hi!!!
HITO : She lives for clicks, Adlib. But do not opine on her blogs, cause that is just not necessary for revenue…it’s all about her ego at that point, not a good thing when it comes to journalism. Journalism….LM FAO!
AdLib : It’s not like I don’t have enough on my plate but would people here be interested in having a Friday where instead of Vox Populi, we had a call-in, 1 hour radio show on the internet?
PatsyT : Hi from the Midwest
LiseLives : Shit, we got the food & the drink – now all we need is the US !
SeeknDestroy : I haven’t had a whole beer yet and my typing is MUCH bettttttttter already!…wink
LiseLives : The only bummer about this bloggy thing is it’s so hard for us to actually meet – I’d love to hang out with so many good peeps here & some at Huff – I’d love to org. a Cal. thing here –
kesmarn : I have some leftover chicken pasta salad. No, wait, my son ate it…
HITO : And Seek made a beautiful salsa dip thing…I’ll bring it and tostitos. Tell us where to go Lise. I’ll bring my bottle of vodka too.
AdLib : HITO – As I’ve always said, I think AH is an opportunist first, she is loyal to her own lusts for celebrity, wealth and power and whichever direction best delivers those, she will take.
LiseLives : I have da vodka & da ornage / grapefruit juices – nobody here in S. Cal ??
SeeknDestroy : MGD and I’m there
kesmarn : Lise, still have vodka and oranges? We on the way.
HITO : Lise, can I walk there? Damn I can’t drive at this hour.
AdLib : Seek – You’re hired!
kesmarn : HITO, I think you’re right.
SeeknDestroy : agreed
LiseLives : I am so lost in this – look, everybody, just come over to my place NOW !
AdLib : Seek – If we don’t hang together, we’ll hang alone.
SeeknDestroy : hire me!
HITO : I think AH is a repub, if not con. The end.
AdLib : Okay, I’ll be our Rupert. Anyone have a billion I could borrow? I promise to pay it back in 2013 with interest!
SeeknDestroy : all swinging together….lol
kesmarn : Arianna’s ultra-rich and claims to be a lib, but many of us are too busy pulling knives out of our backs to be able to talk business with her.
bitohistory : That thinky thing is hard to fight. Ok, people dummy up!! lol
AdLib : I see the Dem Party as like those pendulum things that have multiple pendulums. At times each one swings differently from the others but eventually, there’s a time when they’re all swinging together…then they eventually get out of sync and swing on their own again, to go through the same cycle over and over.
SeeknDestroy : we need an ultra rich lib to hire us for his or her tv station
HITO : Seek, yup.
LiseLives : Oh, never mind Fux news – I just got it – carry on
bitohistory : Where is our Rupert??
AdLib : bito – Like Air America had trouble, a Fox-like station wouldn’t work for us because we’re not robots and we’re not looking for any source or figure to tell us how to think.
LiseLives : Who – fucks – who would say something like that ???
HITO : DOn’t make me google Rasputin. I’m thinking Russian, nasty evil manuevering slimeball, but for some reason I’m hearing that was thrown against a Russian czar. Yeah, could work for JohnnyMac…but is so CHENEY!
SeeknDestroy : me too….oh, the tv station?
kesmarn : b’ito, we need a pair of Koch brothers to buy a media chain for us!
HITO : LOL..fucks. Like it.
AdLib : You have to admit though, all the MSM is hyping up this rally including MSNBC and CNN. It is an insidious plan, to do reprehensible things but duck responsibility.. .and get everyone to cover it because it is reprehensible.
bitohistory : We don’t need a third party we need a tv station like fux
kesmarn : Kinda like Rasputin, HITO. What was he? — drugged, shot, stabbed, drowned? and still came back for more?
HITO : Adlib: AND THE COLOR OF THEIR MONEY
SeeknDestroy : Beck wants to claim the civil rights…..LOLLO LOLOLOLL–falls over
LiseLives : My take is that MSNBC & CNN will hold back their outrage (as they should) that fucking Beck eh==held it on the 28th – because to vent the anger would be to sate Beck – that’s what he wants, is to create a “us VS them thing in the US –
AdLib : BECK: “I dream of a time when people are not judged on the color of their skin but the content of their cable show!”
HITO : KES: McCain seems to have the Cheney-esque indestructibilit y of the heartless. OMG Yes. I C&Pd this last Saturday after the fact…Adlib called it “maverickosity “. Love that.
kesmarn : FOX will, of course, make it look bigger and better than the MLK speech. Like the way Stewart referred to it as: “I have a scheme…”
AdLib : Beck will claim 1 million people came, mark my words.
LiseLives : ON MSM SPIN ON RALLY-
AdLib : I think the MSM will respect the rally as representing a “force” that needs to be dealt with. It’s really kind of sock, imagine if back in 1964, there was no Civil Rights Act because the MSM back then validated the racists claiming “states rights”?
SeeknDestroy : I hope people are allowed to tape the whole thing
bitohistory : That IS nasty , k’es!!JD or Mcgrumpy
HITO : Well I hope it reflects real head counts, not bullshit edited old video head counts. And for those that do attend, god help them. Their kids will laugh at them.
SeeknDestroy : He tore up Lazio(R) the other day…..he never got in 3 words straight w/ Tweety
kesmarn : Oops, sorry, b’ito… You could had a J.D. Hayworth… Maybe McCain does have his points…
AdLib : So, what does everyone think will be the MSM spin on the Beck rally?
bitohistory : Would you guys quit bad mouthing MY senator!!!
AdLib : HITO – I’ve noticed that much of the time, Tweety only lets the most RW people speak and interrupts moderates and liberals.
kesmarn : Seek, McCain seems to have the Cheney-esque indestructibilit y of the heartless.
AdLib : Seek – We’d be migrating to Canada and Erope right now as President Palin declared that God would fix the economy so she wouldn’t sign any legislation for her entire term.
SeeknDestroy : 1 beer, coming up!
SeeknDestroy : mMcCain
HITO : Matthews is a funny tweety bird. He never lets anyone speak, imo. Unless it’s that dreadful Pat Buchanan and then I’d imagine due to contract clauses.
SeeknDestroy : If less than 2 years did that to Obama, what would it have done to Planecrash McGee aka Mcacin?
kesmarn : AdLib
kesmarn : Media Matters is a gift to the country.
bitohistory : they just had some old katrina footage on. But lately he has been spewing some real sh*t
AdLib : Brownie is now a spokesman for BP brand seafood. Oylsters and Slippery Shrimp.
HITO : I’d vote for the grey haired Obama in a ny minute. But I’m not sure Michelle is up for another 4 years in that house. She’d probably like her husband back and I can’t blame her.
kesmarn : Selling ShamWows? Or in Brownie’s case SHAMEWows…?
AdLib : Someone from Media Matters was on Hardball today thought Matthews kept interrupting him and let the old white asshole who is part of a group supporting the Tea Baggers and Beck Rally (can’t remember who) talk freely about how the Beck rally is nonpartisan and there’s no racism associated with Repubs or baggers. Still, the Media Matters guy turned to the old asshole and busted him as a Birther and having called Obama a “token” President, elected because of his race. The old guy tried to pull back into his turtle shell, was very cool.
HITO : Don’t ask KES!
LiseLives : BRB
kesmarn : Oh God, b’ito, what did Brownie have to say?
HITO : KES…LOL “bovine social security” hee hee
SeeknDestroy : used car salesman?@ Bito
bitohistory : Speaking of getting sick– Hecka job brownie was just on the tv.
kesmarn : Granny should know that it’s really Alan Simpson who wants to kill her by taking about her bovine Social Security.
kesmarn : Yes, AdLib, we should re-iterate that not voting at all is a win for them. It’s almost as bad as actually casting a vote for Palin and Co.
AdLib : Seek – On MSNBC today, someone said that it would use up each show on the air to correct the lies Beck spews daily. This is part of the RW approach to disinformation, spray as much around as possible, make it impossible to refute it all and see what sticks. Thats’ exactly what my Granny told me after she learned that HCR would kill her.
SeeknDestroy : Sorry, kes..
SeeknDestroy : Damn, I should start drinking, maybe I’d type better
SeeknDestroy : thanks Kesmanrn.
kesmarn : Seek, Media Matters does a great job of calling out Beck and Limbaugh on their numerous factual errors!
SeeknDestroy : He’s a Marxist! C’mon now….
AdLib : Kes – I think every Dem who even hesitates about voting to re-elect Obama should be told that they are then supporting a President Palin or President Romney in 2012, not voting for Obama is giving Palin or Romney one less vote they need to win so it is helping elect them.
LiseLives : AdLib – LOL – ya – he’s a goddamned socialist I tellz ya
kesmarn : Lise, I’m going to vote for him again, too.
SeeknDestroy : Does anyone check Beck’s facts daily? He’s so full of shit…
LiseLives : I can’t vote in the US – but I WOULD def. vote for him – still –
HITO : Adlib, I hope you’re correct. But you’ve always had enough optimism that carries me through. Thank God.
AdLib : Lise – It’s all just part of Obama’s plan to turn us into Russia just when we’re not looking. At least, that’s what Beck’s chalkboard told me.
LiseLives : HITO – it’s the best – V&O – the best ! goes down ….like buttah
LiseLives : Problem is : Obama stil thinks it pays to be civilized – nope ! not with the dregs that is the Right –
HITO : OK, now I want an orange vodka. BRB
kesmarn : You guys don’t have to answer, but….anyone here considering NOT voting for him again?
AdLib : HITO – That’s the purist line though, Obama isn’t showing how liberal and Dem and anti-GOP he is enough. Even though that’s BS, if a portion of the Dem Party grass roots pressed for more Progressive candidates, I think the rest of the party would actually be energized by that and support them.
LiseLives : HITO – I know – agree –
HITO : Man, Obama better shock and awe us soon or his ass is grass.
kesmarn : There are a million ways to be a decent person, AdLib, but the options for being a total slimeball are limited.
SeeknDestroy : step on their necks…they’d do it to us
LiseLives : I think he WANTS to be a lot more progressive, but feels he has to do it in steps – IMO
HITO : Remember hypnotoad…alwa ys posted “DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS” LOL..he was alright.
AdLib : kes – So true, the simplistic nature of greed, lying and conformity makes it much easier for the GOP to have far more proportional power than Dems who think for themselves.
LiseLives : I think O is still in his “don’t shock & awe” them …..yet –
kesmarn : Even though we were imbibing at the Mercy meeting, we were still “focused” enough to be talking about the same thing! The crazy RW and their hate/fear-monger ing
SeeknDestroy : hypnotoad
HITO : Is it that O isn’t enough progressive or that he doesn’t talk dem talk. He talks centrist, almost like he needs to show everyone how fair he is. And that, IMO, is bullshit.
LiseLives : LOL – to …..every single person here !
SeeknDestroy : toad licking….LOL
SeeknDestroy : too late…..
AdLib : I am licking a South American toad right now and never realized how GREEEEN this site is…whoa!!!
SeeknDestroy : LOL
HITO : No glue babe. Not now or ever. Brain cells are important at our age.
LiseLives : Seek : Looks like I picked the wrong night to quit sniffing glue ;P
LiseLives : Yes, caution : alcohol corrpution may happen here tonight
AdLib : HITO – I don’t think so, it seems to me that what most Dems who complain are upset at Obama over is that he isn’t Progressive enough.
SeeknDestroy : Model glue anyone?…..wink ..
LiseLives : Bito – Yay welcome to the “rare drinkers club” – I’m a total lightweight with booze – 1/2 way ther already
kesmarn : b’ito, I’ve led you down the proverbial primrose path…
SeeknDestroy : Calling Nelson a Dem is like calling me a G. Beck fan.
kesmarn : One advantage of the RW’s worship of power, power-structures , authority and $$ is that there’s virtually no room for disagreement on anything. Instant and eternal solidarity.
HITO : Adlib: taking back the dem party via grassroots…won ‘t that alienate the older dems. I called a famous local dem attorney to try to get help for LTTL…he HATES Obama now, is so disappointed with what has happened. Boy did I get an earful.
AdLib : Seek – “being organized”
LiseLives : AdLib – I agre – no 3rd Party but change Dems toward a lot more Prog. ideology !
bitohistory : k’s made me start drinking :lol;
AdLib : bito – The question is, is it better to have bills watered down by having Blue Dogs in the party or have a potentially smaller majority but no Blue Dogs? I think the latter may be better. And, even in AZ, the population will continue to shift and it will eventually turn more moderate.
kesmarn : I’m glad you’re here, Lise! We can sort through our wine inspired thoughts together…
SeeknDestroy : cough cough ACORN cough cough
HITO : Lise, Kes is one of the funniest on here. Even with wine, usually because of wine. And yes, I’m drinking, and will continue cause it’s Friday night and that’s the night!
SeeknDestroy : Isn’t being organized against party rules?:-)
LiseLives : YAY : don’t expect too much X2 !
bitohistory : If you get rid of blue dogs you get baggers!!! believe me i lie in such a district!
AdLib : HITO – What I mean is, instead of trying to start a third party, Progressives should band together and support the candidates they want on the Dem ticket, not Blue Dogs or DLC-pushed candidates. Copy the igea of a grass roots takeback of the Dem party.
kesmarn : I dunno white wine. Good. Don’t expect too much from me tonight!
LiseLives : Hi, kes !! Long time no see & don’t know you all that well, & well, now that I’ve had 1/2 a vodka orange, I’m not sure you’ll want to know ….anyone else drinking a tad ?:D
SeeknDestroy : LOL
HITO : Italian wine?
kesmarn : They had wine that I drank. Wine good.
AdLib : kes – You mean, YOU had wine.
SeeknDestroy : I say we start by getting rid of the Blue Dogs….Lincoln. ..Nelson….
HITO : Johnny Adlib…serious shit? Go the baggers route? I don’t think I’ve drank enough for that concept.
kesmarn : Hey, Seek and b’ito, and AdLib and Lise! Just got back from Mercy meeting. They had wine…….
AdLib : Hey Kes!!!
HITO : How are you Kes…still on vacay?
bitohistory : k’es!!!
AdLib : bito – I think the phony Tea Party movement has charted the proper course that Progressives should follow. Come together to support true Progressives and use the growth and success of that to take the Dem party back.
SeeknDestroy : Hey Kesmarn!
kesmarn : HITO!!!!!!
HITO : KES!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!
LiseLives : Seek – I agree – always loved Dean, but he was wayyyy wrong on this one !
HITO : Bito, party starting tends to divide, conquer and then leave much in the dust.
kesmarn : Good evenin’ all! I’ll just lurk a bit and try to catch up, if that’s okay…
SeeknDestroy : Agreed. There are better ways to get our voices heard.
HITO : The mighty Progressive movement is an entity unto itself, without a care about us libs.
bitohistory : Which is easier/ start a third party or reform the dems?
SeeknDestroy : I was watching some show on MSNBC and the rep. from Agenda Project basically threw our whole party under the bus and said fire everyone.
HITO : United we stand.
AdLib : Seek – I think it is very counterproductiv e for any Progressive-type group to attack others. We only have strength when we’re together, as we were in electing Obama. This Purist BS and Purity Tests should be just for Republicans, not us.
SeeknDestroy : You beat me to it, AdLib. I have the link. Cool.
AdLib : Just Googled it: “The Agenda Project’s goal is to build a powerful, intelligent, well-connected political movement capable of identifying and advancing rational, effective ideas in the public debate and in so doing ensure our country’s enduring success. Between out-dated political parties, self-interested multi-national corporations, and ineffectual elected officials, good values and common sense have lost their power in the public debate. Our goal is to return normal Americans to the center of the policy debate by cultivating an understanding of public policy, facilitating common action, and connecting the best ideas and the strongest leaders with engaged citizens, elected officials, the media, political insiders, and experts through a variety of in-person and on-line platforms. ” Here’s a link to their site: «link»
SeeknDestroy : This so- called Progressive group threw H. Dean and H. Reid under the bus regarding the so called 9/11 mosque. Very very left wing.
HITO : Wow, I didn’t know Jeannie Berlin was her daughter…aweso me.
AdLib : bito – I took a big interest in the McCarthy period and all that went on, it was one of the most (pre-Bush) fascist periods in America.
bitohistory : Seek ? tell us more.
SeeknDestroy : What do you folks think of this *progressive group* Agenda Project?
AdLib : HITO – Yes, I remember and whatever works best for you!
bitohistory : The whole blacklisting,FBI ,Mcarthy thing was pretty scary. Ask my dad
HITO : Mike Nichols…eyebro wless Mike Nichols married to Diane Sawyer?
AdLib : Watch this clip and wait for Elaine May, she’s such an Angle-type bonehead: «link»
HITO : But I sent you a personal check last time. I don’t do paypal…oh I see, I can charge it. Aren’t you high tech?
AdLib : Elaine May and Mike Nichols…though they’re divorced now but still good friends, I understand.
AdLib : HITO – You can use the “Donate” link in the right sidebar, it usually works!
SeeknDestroy : I’m ashamed that she’s from NV
HITO : I love Elaine May. Married to….Joe….shi t, remind me…was it Bolognio?
AdLib : Angle actually reminds me of the wacky character Elaine May played in a Woody Allen movie, Small Time Crooks.
HITO : OT, Adlib, send me that addy too. It’s been a couple of months and you better get it while you can, cause X’s monthlies are pretty cheap. This time next year, I’ll be asking you for a minimum wage job.
LiseLives : I’ll BB in 5 minutes, leave some extra space for something more intersting than moi – so bito, come back !!
SeeknDestroy : Snert….wha?
LiseLives : NO you owe me SOME coke – J/K !
SeeknDestroy : I owe Lise a coke
AdLib : Lise – Very kind of you! DOn’t understand why it wouldn’t accept your CC but I’ll email you the mailing address!
bitohistory : I’m reading!
SeeknDestroy : Model glue sniffer
SeeknDestroy : Huffy puffy
LiseLives : Yes, sniffin paint or glue – fdefinitely LOL
AdLib : I figure Angle as a paint huffer, myself.
LiseLives : 2) Ad Lib – I tried donating 2 times & it wouldn’t accept my CC’s – will donate – maybe by check ?
AdLib : Seek – In fact, Fox and RWs all were comfortable about the cultural center then. Now that they can create another boogy man out of it, they jump on that bandwagon.
LiseLives : 1) where’s bito – I’ll be a bit quieter to leave some space
LiseLives : Meth, except she’s not that hip LOLLL !
AdLib : bito – Yes, I saw that about Angle agreeing that enemies of America are in Congress. And Bachman and Issa want to spend the next two years politically trying to lynch Obama. That’s what these idiot voters out there think will make their lives better? Putting in Repubs so Congress can do nothing to help anyone during this financial emergency? Sheesh!
HITO : Lise, I wuz thinking Meth. Maybe I’m wrong.
LiseLives : Daily.
HITO : But these morons don’t want to spend the time to get educated. No reading appropriate newspapers, no accountable information uplinks…fuck them. Live in ignorance and good luck with that…oh boy, I’m getting pissed.
LiseLives : As for Angle – she strikes me as someone who takes tranquilizers dauly – has that oh so fragile edge to her every time she speaks – I hate fragility !
SeeknDestroy : No one cared about this*Mosque* 2 months ago….mid term election bullshit
LiseLives : Exactly !!
AdLib : Lise – It is sad that there are so many literally stupid people out there. Critical thinking is nowhere to be find in such people’s minds, they instead latch onto an authority figure and accept whatever comes out of their mouths.
LiseLives : AdLib : They WANT to be manipulated ! They HAVE NO life ! & need an angry messiah to echo their own useless lives’ misery !
HITO : An ignorant child with ignorant parents is a shoe in for the repubs. Shit that’s horrible, but possibly true.
SeeknDestroy : Angle is a piece of work.She lies about everything she has ever said….now Reid is fighting dirty…
AdLib : It is astounding that poor, unemployed white people are so easily manipulated to oppose those who represent their own interests. No wonder the Repubs have always worked at cutting education.
HITO : Lise, that’s where I went. Darjeeling and Bailey’s…nice .
bitohistory : Angle is getting ready to re-open the McCarthy hearings on Un-merkins in congress.
HITO : As Jon Stewart said “I have a scheme” That’s all Beck has
LiseLives : AdLib – it’s most extraordinarily upsetting that so many would join the likes of Beck – I was happier in my illusion that “goodness” & intelligence was the overriding factor in the US – it’s pathetic & quite upsetting, which is why ,,,,,I’m drinking now
AdLib : AS YOU ALL MAY HAVE GUESSED, OUR FIRST TOPIC IS THE ACCEPTABLE RACISM-TONED MARCH ON DC TOMORROW BY GLENN BECK WITH SUPPORTING BIGOT, SARAH PALIN. TURNOUT IS ANTICIPATED TO BE OVER 100,000…THAT’ S A LOT OF WHITE SHEETS TO BUY. HOW BAD HAVE THINGS GOTTEN IN THIS COUNTRY WHEN RACISM, TAKING A PISS ON MLK’S “I HAVE A DREAM SPEECH” CAN BE SO OPENLY ACCEPTED IN SOCIETY? HOW FAR WILL THIS NEW WHITE POWER MOVEMENT GO AND IS MORE AND GREATER VIOLENCE INEVITABLE?
SeeknDestroy : HITO will be back in a second…..:-)
LiseLives : & don’t thoise fucking idiots know that Obama’s trying to help all of them too, the trailer trash society,as well as us smarter folks ? LOL
bitohistory : They trust corps (who are unknown) to people they can actually vote against–or use their 2nd rights on. lol
LiseLives : Seek : Exactly !!
SeeknDestroy : Tea Bagger: Obama’s a socialist!?-?whe re’s my SS check and my Medicare card?
LiseLives : POP – makes me want to open a bottle o’ champagne
LiseLives : HITO : they really have the absolute dregs of citizenry – all for themselves
AdLib : “KEEP YOR GOVERNMINT HANDS OFF ARE SOSHALL SECURITEA!
LiseLives : This is a TRIP to keep up with LOL !
SeeknDestroy : Me?wink.
HITO : Lise: true that. The GOP is freaking out that they have so many ignorants in their base. They never counted on so many….LOL
AdLib : Bito – So true and sad. Can you imagine Obama having a rally and having to remind people not to bring Nazi or racist signs?
SeeknDestroy : No badly spelled racist signs, please!
LiseLives : Bito – I really think they were more afraid of the whole country laughing at all the mis-spelled signs LOL
AdLib : Lise – Right with you, my life is much happier without unnecessary dramas.
HITO : Babe, you have an avatar tonight. Very nice and noticeable.
SeeknDestroy : Really?
SeeknDestroy : Drama where? Who?
bitohistory : Amazing that one would have to warn against bringing raciest signs to a rally!
LiseLives : AdLib – I know you guys here understand all that – I def. want to stay neutral about any old stories I missed out on at Huff – drama’s no fun at all –
SeeknDestroy : Beck/Palin aka Liars R Us.
HITO : Schreech! LOL
AdLib : HITO – Many years ago, when there were just a few tubes in the Internets, I started at HP by reading for a while to get the sense of who was there and how people conversed so anyone who does that here is totally cool.
HITO : Bito: Sarah gets it in cash in a throw away suitcase I hear. She reports nothing. Awww, if only she did that…IRS would love to seize her assets. A girl can dream.
SeeknDestroy : Doing the best I can.
AdLib : Lise – Totally cool! We really want The Planet to be a place for everyone of good will. We have enough adversaries on the Beck/Palin side of the equation, no need for us to be divided against ourselves.
HITO : Adlib, I can’t wait to see your topics for tonight…can you say “MOSQUE”?
bitohistory : HITO, doesS’arah get her 100 grand off the top for her screech?
SeeknDestroy : Hey LiseLives!Or CC!!smile!
LiseLives : Seek, you take good care of our girl here – take good care of eachother – this is special what you got – it’s rare, ya know ….
HITO : She could be reading us. Shy? Hell no. But apprehensive..sh wure (in my best NY accent).
LiseLives : Hey Seeeeeekkkk !
AdLib : HITO – Always happy to have new folks join us, especially those who show they stand on principle. Hope BadBadKitty makes it.
SeeknDestroy : Good to see you folks.
HITO : Lise. Hear you loud and clear. No worries. We all walk our own roads and it is good.
SeeknDestroy : I’m in NY state with my HITO, AdLib.
LiseLives : HITO – just FYI – I know you prob. already klnow this, but there are so many people I love who are either on one side ot the other about the Lorne / Funky / Kitty thing that I had to decide to stay even about it all – I missed so much of it, just don’t want to voice one way or abother about it – ya get me ?
AdLib : Hey Seek!!! How are you! Heard you were out of town.
HITO : Bito: Only place Beck fits is in a very small cell. He’s calling this a charity event, but everything is subject to paying speaker’s fees. THe charity portion will be lucky if they get 10K. HIS fee will escalate with each entry fee undoubtedly.
AdLib : BeckCon fits in like the square peg he is…and I could suggest what round hole he would fit best into.
SeeknDestroy : Hey kids!:-)
HITO : Adlib, FYI, there’s one over in hell that I hope is reading or shows tonight…BadBad Kitty. She’s OK. Stood up for Lorne when so many threw him under the Funky bus. Sorry, too much HP talk. But she rocks. Just a head’s up.
AdLib : Lise – Sounds fun!
bitohistory : I want to say about his weekend: 19 amendment, MLK speech, Katrina. Where does becky fit in there?
AdLib : If I were in the vicinity, I would go just to interview people there and post here. Would be interesting if not newsbreaking.
LiseLives : It’s going to be pet clothing – sounds kindof lame, but I have all sorts of fabric inventory left over from when my label sold at Nordstrom – so I’ll be using it for this – just a little fun biz, no biggie
AdLib : Lise – Can you mention what kind of website?
HITO : Adlib: LOL! If I took that 4 hour trip south…well it wouldn’t be pretty. They wouldn’t like me mad…and I would definitely show those colors.
LiseLives : Bito & Hito –
LiseLives : I’ll be bleching Beck’s rally – the piece of shit !
AdLib : Bito!!! How are ya, pal?
AdLib : While we’re waiting…what’ s everyone up to this weekend? Other than going to Beckapalooza on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial, that is.
bitohistory : Present!
LiseLives : It’s been almost suffolcatingly hot – AdLib – thx – it’s going to have a website soon – couple of weeks – just a little sideline biz for my bread & butter
AdLib : Lise – Best of luck on your new biz!
HITO : And good evening to bito, and once again to Lise!
AdLib : HITO –
HITO : HI … Johnny Adlibseedâ„¢
AdLib : I’m in L.A., know what you’re talking about with the heat. My daughter’s been out of camp for the last few weeks so my days are down to 20% work and 80% water balloons and SLip N Slides.
LiseLives : You ??
LiseLives : AdLib – Been p/t working on new biz – & p/t lazying indoors while it’s so damned hot here in California –
AdLib : How are you HITO?
AdLib : BITO?
LiseLives : Wait – I’l give my BBlater at Huff – BRB
AdLib : I’m doing great. And you? Been up to any fun stuff this summer?
LiseLives : Hiya AdLib – how are you my dear, revered friend ??
AdLib : The popcorn’s on me!
LiseLives : POP – !
HITO : Sweet! You’re here!
AdLib : LISE! How are you?
LiseLives : HELLO – O – O – !!
AdLib : See you shortly HITO!
HITO : Be here in a sec, kids.
AdLib : Vox Populi begins at 7:00 pm PDT tonight, hope to see you then!
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