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whatsthatsound On June - 27 - 2010

We are stardust, we are golden

we are billion year old carbon

and we’ve got to get ourselves back to the garden

– Jonie Mitchell, “Woodstock”

Ferrets are more determined than they are bright. Case in point being my own pet ferret, Rosie. Rosie explores nooks and crannies with the unrestrained zeal of a fanatic. Wikipedia tells me that ferrets have been domesticated (they are the domesticated version of the polecat) since perhaps the time of Socrates and Buddha, and all that breeding – for going down holes, for ferreting out pest rodents – has resulted in a lovable freak of nature that behaves nearly suicidally in its compulsion to know, KNOW!, what’s down that hole, or in that crevice! Even if that hole leads to a drop off of ten or more feet (that’s like a twenty story building to a ferret), and a fatal fall, the only thing that will stop a ferret is the loving, exasperated hand of its owner. We can’t understand ferrets in this regard; it’s something they “just gotta”.

Or perhaps we can understand them, and all too well at that. My thoughts are now linked with those of so many others as we contemplate the unspeakable tragedy that is unfolding in the Gulf of Mexico. As the oil spews out from a mile below, it is staggering to consider how technology has been so horrifyingly misapplied in this instance. Explorers were able, through sophisticated devices, to discover that there is a vast reservoir of oil out there beyond sight of land. Engineers developed machinery that can dig through solid rock, another mile below the ocean floor, in order to get at that reservoir. Because we “just gotta” have that oil! Cruelly ironic that we have developed astounding technology in order to drill through bedrock, but have not developed applications to produce or harvest energy that doesn’t send the environment, our one and only home planet, down a tailspin of degradation. Humans, like ferrets, are more determined than they are bright.

Lemmings don’t really commit mass suicide. It turns out that that is a myth. The whole myth developed like a meme in reaction to some wildlife footage shot in the mid 1950s, and televised frequently thereafter, for a Disney-produced wildlife documentary. Multiple generations watched in horror, on their upholstered couches (and I was among them) as a mass desperation forced the pathetic critters to fling themselves out over a cliff, into the cold, cruel sea, where they swam a futile swim to exhaustion and a watery death. This was a culling process of nature, we were taught to believe; that as their population exploded beyond a certain point, instinct forced them into behavior that they would never otherwise consider, as if a switch had been thrown by Mother Nature. The footage itself, and how it was presented, was hokum. First of all, the “documentary” aspect of the scene that fused itself in our brains has been challenged. The animals we saw were herded, it is now alleged. The rush hour subway density of lemmings was staged in order to heighten their panic. Lemmings do behave radically when their population exceeds a certain quotient. They do fan out in all directions in search of new habitat. They do, if they encounter a body of water, jump in, in order to explore the land, and its food potential, on the other side. But lemmings are very good swimmers. More often that not, as in WAY more often than not, the majority of them reach the other side. Therefore, the fact that they were transported to an inhospitable coast by filmmakers is all the more ghastly. Those critters thought they had a good chance of crossing over, because in a natural situation, they would have. Alas, this all too convenient, and frequently used, metaphor for our own existential situation is forced and inaccurate. We do not have allies among our fellow animals (or at least if we do, it is not the misunderstood lemming) in plunging carelessly toward our own demise. We as a mammalian species are alone in engaging in obviously suicidal behavior, with the concomitant collateral side effect of taking billions of other life forms with us.

And there can be no mistake, this IS the direction we are heading. One of Einstein’s most famous quotes is that problems cannot be solved at the level of consciousness at which they were created, and yet many hasten to assure us that technology, for all the devastation it has wrought since the Industrial Revolution, is nevertheless the solution to the ills we face today. Apparently, according to this way of thinking, it is now incumbent upon our technology to transform itself into Superman, and rescue us from the death trap its Lex Luthor alter ego has placed us in. Uh….right.

Technology is not the answer. Nor is it the problem, per se, so much as it is a symptom. There is a sickness affecting humanity that threatens our very survival as a species. We have lost touch with our center, our very DNA, and are behaving as if we are not part of this earth any more. We base our way of life on a system that will stop working in less time than the duration between now and Shakespeare. It is utter madness, but we go about our lives as if it will all work out somehow. We are the true “lemmings”, and our divorce from our naturalness will not, and cannot possibly be, solved by forcing ourselves even deeper into the ouroboros that is the left hemisphere of our brain, there to extract ever newer technologies to serve as antidotes to the technologies that are being run with such destructive consequences in our modern civilization.

Our survival as a species has nothing to do with technological geekery or, as some technophiles have suggested, “heading out to the stars”. Imagine the audacity! We trash life on this planet, but hey, it’s okay, so long as we learn to cultivate our own moon, or the moons of Jupiter or wherever. The very fact that some would consider this to be a solution is indicative itself that something is really wrong with our current mindset. A species, a contributing member of the biosphere and completely dependent on it, deluding itself that it can pick up and move elsewhere if need be. The Sufis advise us to “be in the world but not of it”. Sound advice when its meaning relates to an individual striving for peace of mind. But for the human race as a collective, the admonition should be, “Be in the world and don’t forget for a moment that YOU ARE OF IT!” Ours has been a history of pulling ourselves out of the real Matrix, the impeccable miracle that is our planet’s propensity to, generously, host ecosystems based on the simplest and most brilliant of exchanges – oxygen for carbon dioxide, food for fertilizer, death for life – and placing ourselves in an unreal Matrix that weakens us fundamentally and threatens us existentially. And we must learn how to stop.

Surely Tokyo, where I live, is one of the most wasteful cities on the entire planet. The foods that are thrown away each day, the electricity used in the neon light signs and giant televisions advertising bubblegum pop music in front of the major train stations; the air conditioners blasting out from four million domiciles in the summer, raising the temperature two degrees (Celsius) higher than outside the city; the appliances and computers and cellphones that are pitched and replaced rather than repaired, etc.; taken together this would easily provide enough food and energy and sundries to supply a city of a million or more people each day. And yet, a mere hundred and fifty odd years ago, Tokyo, or as it was then called, Edo, was a very different place altogether. It was, as has been suggested in a book by novelist/historian Eisuke Ishikawa titled “The Edo Period had a Recycling Society”, the most environmentally efficient city on the face of the earth. The Japanese of Old Edo were not self consciously preserving their environment so much as they were subconsciously aware of themselves as part of the environment. Perhaps nothing illustrates this better than the commercial use of “night soil”, a lovely euphemism for human excrement, as a fertilizer. If you were to go back to Edo and stop by a roadside teahouse, you might meet a man who would proudly tell you, “I sell shit”. And why not be proud? While Europeans were risking plague at every turn, throwing their raw sewage out onto the street, the Japanese were living healthily and sanitarily, giving their produce back to the earth, so that it could continue to yield its produce for their use. This is the way of things, it is what Nature teaches us, and yet it is something that we have forgotten. Instead, we eat chemically fertilized foods, laced with pesticides and denuded of nutrients, and dump (literally) that into our water supply, of all places! We have night soil for brains, it seems!

We have to, metaphorically if not literally, return to the wilds and become creatures of the forest again. In a forest, absolutely nothing is wasted. Not air, not sunlight, not a drop of rain or sweat, not a carcass or a pellet of shit. A forest can run, continually rejuvenating itself, for millennia, once a system is set in place. In a place called Gaviotas, in Colombia, a group of scientists and environmental engineers figured out a way to put a rainforest back where the desert had encroached, and not by simply planting trees. They built it up from the ground floor, beginning with the small plants that would have originally grown there, and moving forward incrementally. Almost miraculously, the birds began to appear as if from nowhere. And the lizards, and the rodents. Over time, the forest was back, and all its creatures were working in harmony. Gaia knew what to do, and just needed a nudge.

I am not idealizing forest life as if it is some sort of trans-species hippiefest waiting to welcome us back. In any given clump of dirt in a forest that you may happen to pick up with your bare hand, an atrocity is occuring. The little things of this planet dispense with each other in ways so gruesome and cruel that they would blush the faces of the most depraved Medieval torturer. It can easily be surmised that the very terrors of the natural world have impacted our psychology and seeded our destructiveness. We needed to learn to use our brains for protection, for offense and defense. We would not have survived had we not learned to attack, fight for our very lives, take without asking. It’s part of who we are and it was bequeathed to us by Gaia. We are her legacy. Nevertheless, that is not an excuse to stay on our present course as it leads down a road toward extinction. We can use our minds to imagine, and create, a new Eden. Our children can be the butterflies and birds that spread the seeds and nectar, through their vigor and curiosity. Our senior citizens can be the massive sycamores that hold the very life of the forest in their hearts and minds. Every one of us must discover our place in this new “human forest” before we can reintegrate ourselves with the broader ecosystem both on our terms and its. Because what we are really wasting more than anything is our minds, and what we are destroying is our humanness. We have to remember what that means first, to be human. If we want to be sane again.

Written by whatsthatsound

Writer, Illustrator, Curmudgeon. Ferret Owner. Tokyoite, formerly Ohioan. Much nicer in person.

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  1. AdLib says:

    How lucky is The Planet to host your wonderful artwork and perspective? Very lucky indeed!

    I really appreciate your exposing the lemming myth, it wasn’t until more recent years that I learned the truth about that fallacy. Still, the concept for the term “lemmings” has become ingrained in the public mind and will continue to be used, even by those who know what it is based on is not true.

    Also, the quote you provided from Einstein resonates.

    Technology does present problems for human beings. As computers were coming into more widespread use, the national conversation began that it would lead to more leisure time and even four day work weeks. Instead, what happened is that jobs could be sent overseas and farmed out to contractors…thanks to technology.

    It’s like the monkey’s paw, you can make a wish for technology to be developed to make something easier and not know ahead of time that it could make many things worse.

    Many teens find it difficult to have in-person relationships and conversations, some would prefer to mainly text friends instead of spend time with them. Thanks to the miracle of technology.

    Overall, technology is not bad, it is just seductive. It does tempt us to become less involved socially, playing Wii, watching Tivo, etc. However, as exemplified in this very site, it can be used to bring people together and enhance communication and socialization.

    Just as we have to make decisions in our lives not to be tempted by bad-for-us foods or affairs, we need to learn not to be tempted by technology so it harms our lives.

    It’s more about personal responsibility, using technology to enhance life instead of dominate it. So, though I don’t agree that there needs to be a move away from technology, I do agree that it needs to be tempered in our lives so that it serves us and we don’t serve it.

    • whatsthatsound says:

      Thanks for your thoughtful comments, AdLib. Although I didn’t intend for my essay to be a complete condemnation of technology, I nevertheless disagree with you that it is “more about personal responsibility”. It isn’t, in my opinion, because we all have to live in the over-engineered world that is being continually updated and modified, all around us and much of it invisible. We can choose not to buy the latest game software, but we can’t choose not to live in an unnatural atmosphere of microwaves and other invisible elements of the hooked up world we live in. Those navigation devices in cars are amazing, but isn’t it a bit scary that the car always knows EXACTLY where you are? There is a grid being held in place by satellites, I assume. What is its make-up? Does it interfere with our brain waves? Does it increase the cause of cancer? If so, would the manufacturers tell us that? The only one of those questions I can answer with confidence is the third!

  2. Questinia says:

    You illustration portrays the First Couple as remaining in the Garden of Eden because they can approach the infinity of immortality with all their gadgetry. But what happens when they get bored? Wouldn’t they need some kind of button to push to give them something that is not on their control? The only thing I can think of that satisfies that is Nature. Nature is a jack-in-the-box. It transports us from our usual thoughts and experiences and let’s us not be in control. Doesn’t being bored usually make one seek more and more technology which is again to be controlled? It’s like achieving higher and higher levels in a video game. At some point one wants to be surprised and overwhelmed and out of control.

    Maybe God’s little apple was a symbol of the first “surprise”.

    The only people who may not cotton to that are Republicans!

    • whatsthatsound says:

      Yeah, I think that too. What has happened with technology so far makes me less than elated about the “Singularity” that Bauart mentions in his post. We just get bored and want something new. For a while we “can’t live without” it and then the Next Big Thing comes along. It’s not like this will stop. It won’t stop, singularity or no singularity, because it it is too isolated an experience. It is not even whole mind, but it needs to be whole body. We have to feel it down to the soles of our feet for it to sustain us. And for that, as you point out, there is Nature, not virtual reality.

  3. Questinia says:

    The civilized world has co-opted the material and natural world and reduced it to symbols. We use money as a symbol for wealth, inches yards and feet for measurement, IQ points for intelligence. We become so pre-occupied with the symbols that they become stand-ins for nature and the material world. We mistake the menu for the food. Maybe these symbols are versions of the natural world we are meant to play with.

    Maybe, civilization and Rosie are all about play. Seeking out ecstasy, pre-occupied with it. But in civilization ecstasy needs to be upped, people can get desensitized and bored by ecstasy, they need higher and higher levels to satisfy them. However, people don’t seem to get desensitized to pain because too much time is spent trying to avoid it, so there is less exposure to it and a greater sensitization to it. To be happy with simpler ecstasies and use more fancy ecstasies as condiment. To not be afraid of pain because there is ecstasy in that too.

    • whatsthatsound says:

      That is exactly how I feel, Q, and I even go a step further to think that technology is a symbol for what humans are truly capable of, if we develop ourselves whole bodily and don’t just focus on what our analytic minds can come up with. Things like telepathy, psychic power, physical strength that we consider “superhuman” -- perhaps these could be developed using a different KIND of “technology”. And if so, I would imagine our ecosystem would fare a tad better. But this is just speculating, and I’m probably going on so much I sound like I hate technology, which I don’t. I just believe it, and the analytic mind, have advanced too far too quickly, so that other latent human capacities have been truncated.

      • Questinia says:

        Yes, I agree. But technology, or the machine, makes us feel like we can abolish both time and space, why? Because technological machinery takes the burden of monotonous rhythms of effort. Like the modern kitchen liberated housewives, we are now all liberated housewives via technology.

        You got it spot on when you say the left brain has taken too much precedence in our culture. Rationalization of life makes us unaccustomed and fearful of the irrational . The irrational is the fountainhead of creativity and instinct. It fuels reason, inspires it, informs it, and evolves it.

        Our brains have become too preoccupied with the abstract. It makes us tense and becomes a distraction. Distraction to the point of pathology. We become neurotic.

        • whatsthatsound says:

          I completely agree! That’s why one of the things I feel a bit proud of is that I teach art skills which enhance the right brain modalities. Just doing my little bit to bring things back into balance! 😉

          • Questinia says:

            Have they found that cultivating the right brain causes an increase in certain neurotransmitters, like dopamine?
            I’m also wondering whether the left brain, when cultivated, causes an increase in serotonin.

            Any ideas?

            • whatsthatsound says:

              No, I haven’t done much research into the chemistry of what happens. But the changes in some people are extraordinary. A lot of it is emotional. When people realize they can draw after a lifetime of buying into a childhood era slight that convinced them they weren’t good enough, they shed tears of both joy and anguish. People open up and change in many different ways. One man even said his golf game improved!

  4. kesmarn says:

    WTS, every article you write is so packed with terrific observations that a decent response would be longer than the article itself. Thanks for your latest contributions: artistic and literary.

    I see Rosie there in the illustration, poking her little nose into some hole that contains god-knows-what, and it does remind me of our own species’ incurable curiosity. A curiosity that has brought us delightful stuff (What happens when you string guts across a wooden box and draw a bow of horse hair over it…Vivaldi!) and destruction (Just how far down can humans drill in the ocean floor for oil? oops.).

    Curiosity, like so many other things is, in short, a double edged sword. Technology, too, I see as — maybe not so much a symptom, but — a tool. Like fire, water, blades, drugs, etc., technology is a tool that can be used to hurt or heal. We can use opium and its derivatives to bring blessed relief to sufferers or to dull the pain that’s a necessary part of spiritual growth…eventually, even, to kill. The same blade that a surgeon can use with skill to remove a diseased organ, can be used to inflict pain. Water can restore life to patients who are dehydrated, or for be used for the Cheney-esque pastime of
    water-boarding. I’m a Christian, but I don’t hesitate to note that antibiotics have healed more people than Jesus did when he was here in the flesh. Food is one of life’s great pleasures. But it can be that, or the substance that produces a 600 pound person who is reduced to a life of immobility and endless medical crises.

    What sort of “sickness affecting humanity,” as you so aptly phrased it, WTS, causes us to make the negative choice so often now, in the use of those tools? Why do we decide that — for instance — we Americans would rather import drugs and humans from Mexico, than to do emotional or physical work ourselves?

    I wonder if the problem is that we cannot accept the fact that labor, pain and death are as much a part of being a human person as leisure, pleasure and life are? When we say that we use technology to master nature and the pain that nature can inflict, aren’t we also saying that we think we can become the masters of death itself? A wee bit arrogant, perhaps?

    As is saying: “After we’ve finished trashing this planet, we’ll just move on to another.” The Perpetual Frat-Boy mentality. Cleaning up after the party — all the pizza ground into the carpet, all the spilled beer and the barf? Isn’t that what maids are for?

    When the Wall Street induced financial crash happened, I noticed that the only ones who were virtually unscathed were the Amish. When a psychopath murdered a number of school girls, the most functional and merciful response came from the Amish. When gas prices spiked, the people who were able to cope were the Amish. These amazing people who live connected intimately to the earth every day. And yet…and yet…the Amish school girls who were wounded and survived, did so because of…technology.

    A vexing question you raise, indeed, WTS, but I thank you for raising it.

    • whatsthatsound says:

      Fantastic comments, Kesmarn! I am flattered by the fact that you post them here. I would love to have an extended dialogue with you about these matters, as we clearly have both thought long and deeply about them.
      For me, I think one of the keys to our recovery is to reconnect with animals in a meaningful way. It is shocking how we have marginalized them from our lives. Were we so afraid of them during our hunter/gatherer days that even now, when we have virtually nothing to fear from any but the tiniest and most parasitic of them, we think we need to push them out of our lives? The 600 pound people you mention, gorged on hamburgers -- have any of them actually ever killed and eaten an animal? I’m guessing no, and so they have not experienced the true exchange of life force that meat eating is. They don’t revere food, and so it grows on them like a cancer.
      And it is hardly their fault. Where would they find the animals in today’s world? Who would teach them how to hunt? Does our modern education system teach us ANYTHING that we need to know to interact with our world as a species? No, it doesn’t. We think we are not a species. We think species are things you learn about in boring high school science classes.

      • kesmarn says:

        WTS, I’d more than welcome that extended dialog any time you feel you have the leisure to indulge. I love talking about these sorts of ideas. (Not to mention the fact that I’ve done a couple paintings and a few sketches that could benefit from a good critique!)

        I had never thought of meat eating as an “exchange of life force,” but can see how it most certainly is. And your comments about
        our 600 pound patients certainly ring true, as well. It’s hard to figure out exactly what role food has in their lives, but they seem so deeply unhappy that it’s clear something is radically wrong with what’s going on. I do notice that fresh fruits and vegetables don’t seem to be attractive to many of them. But soda, chips and ice cream do. (Not that it’s terrible to indulge in those things, but what about the delights of strawberries and wonderful Ohio tomatoes? They taste great, too.)

        You mention our education system. I note that kids here are taught to recycle their soda cans and the fact that whales are endangered, but there’s never a connection made between later in life choices and the fate of the planet — like buying homes with 15,000 square feet of rooms that need to be heated and cooled or owning two or three SUVs.
        I suppose that might offend the parents…who might complain to the school board….sigh.

        • whatsthatsound says:

          Hi Kesmarn
          If you’re willing, perhaps we could just share ideas here on this post for a while, at our own pace, and anyone can feel free to jump in. No matter how obese a person is, if they only eat chips, soda, burgers and fries, etc. they are “starving” themselves, aren’t they? First of all, they are doing so physically, as their cells’ enzymes are overtaxed with useless fat and undernourished with nutrients. Just as much so, they are starved spiritually, as they don’t revere the food they eat and don’t seem to recognize that asa soon as it comes into their mouths, it becomes them! If you don’t like how you look, you start with what goes inside! One of the things I love about Japan is the level of reverence for food here. The country is changing, and young folks don’t “get it” as much as their elders, but eating is like a kind of sacrament here. Japanese people LOVE food, and that shows in the slim, trim bodies so many of them maintain.

          • kesmarn says:

            WTS, your intuition on the mega-obese patients is validated by the lab work that is done when they are admitted to the hospital. More often than not, they have low serum albumin levels, which is consistent with malnutrition. Often when we start an IV (if we’re able to get a peripheral one in at all) we can even feel the difference in the quality of the veins we’re accessing. Not to be too graphic, but with an obese person, the veins often have a “mushy” quality (almost like over-cooked macaroni) that makes them “blow” easily. With a healthy person there’s a firmer, more elastic vein. Hardly a poetic observation…sorry! But true.

            What you say about reverence for food rings true. About once every 6 weeks I get together with a small (6 to 8 people) group of Mercy nuns for dinner. The meal is always preceded by drinks (not soda!) and conversation. The table is set with real china (no paper or styrofoam), a centerpiece and candles. There’s a prayer before the meal. We each contribute an element of the meal, so no one person is overburdened. We eat whatever is presented. (Oddly, not one of us is allergic to any food item!) And conversation is the most important element of the gathering…although the food is usually delicious. The meal tends to go on and on, and I have to say I’ve seldom laughed so often or so much with any group as I do with these women. These meals, for me, define the word “sacrament.”

            • whatsthatsound says:

              It just makes so much sense, that the veins would be substandard. The poor body’s cells are just doing the best they can with the faulty materials they are being given to work with. It is so sad. Because the cells themselves have the same potential as that of a healthy person, but they are getting shafted.
              Your meals sound wonderful. And wonderfully healthful. I imagine your cells are practically glowing after a meal like that. I hope they realize how lucky they are to have such a wise person “in charge”!

            • kesmarn says:

              Oh, WTS, you’re kind, but I’m definitely not the person in charge. We meet at a house that functions as a convent at this point, so my responsibilities are minimal. Just show up with food and be prepared to laugh.

              Speaking of laughter, I forgot to mention that I noticed that the serpent’s diabolical devices in your illustration include a designer handbag and a bra. YES!!

  5. dildenusa says:

    I love your art work. Very appropriate for modern life.

    Where I live in northern Arizona the US Fish and Wildlife Service and the Arizona Game and Fish Department are reintroducing the Black Footed Ferret to it’s home range in the high desert grasslands. And I’ve seen Ferrets in the wild. Very interesting creatures. The point is at least there was enough breeding stock left to allow for the repopulation and allow for genetic diversity.

    Anyone who has studied biology knows that a species must dispose of it’s waste products in a sustainable manner otherwise the species chokes on it’s own waste. In our rush to poke holes in the only home we have, we will not only choke on our waste products but we force all the other sentient beings to do the same.

    • whatsthatsound says:

      Your second paragraph is so heartbreakingly true, dildenusa. We are taking so many other life forms with us on our destructive joyride. God help them.

      And thanks for the info about Ferrets! I’ll look into that more.

  6. Kalima says:

    A beautiful drawing wts, the wasting in Tokyo I take a little offense to. No better or worse than anywhere else on this planet.

    • whatsthatsound says:

      Hi Kalima,
      No, I would disagree with that. There are cities run more efficiently. But I am also referring to the sheer size of Tokyo. By virtue of being the center of the largest metropolitan area on earth, and a hyper-industrialized and energy-using one, I believe that my argument holds up. But I agree with you that Tokyo is by no means anomalous, and don’t write that it is.

  7. Questinia says:

    Brilliant and thought-provoking as always whatsie!

    “How one sees the origins of human culture is also a description of how one wishes to see the future of humanity.” -- William Irwin Thompson, Gaia: A Way of Knowing

    People see

    • whatsthatsound says:

      Very wonderful comments, Q, and much appreciated. I completely agree with you that our current paradigm is one of “mastering” nature, and even supplanting it, in the dream of technophiles. Taking ourselves out of it and roaming the stars. And yet it is found, and I hope you will verify this, that depression/suicide increase even in high rise buildings! We are meant to live close to the ground and remember that we ARE the ground. If we take ourselves into space we will be ripping off Mother Nature, since our cells are the recycling of Her energy. Me, I never wanna live anywhere but the ground floor in any house or home I live in. And I give thanks every time I encounter a snake as I walk along the river path near my home. He, or she, is reminding me to touch the earth!

      • dildenusa says:

        There have been anecdotal stories already about suicides in Gulf Coast states. Also I was over at Huff Post and they had a story about the BP Boycott hurting small businesses. The point is of course that all the oil companies are despoiling earth in one way or another. So how does boycotting BP gasoline hurt BP. In a year from now BP will still be in business and still be laughing all the way to the bank. So of course the rabid enviromentalists came on the comment board saying we need to make plastic from starch. I guess they forgot what happened to the price of food when Bush was pushing ethanol. It just makes no sense to me. In order to hurt BP we would have to stop buying gasoline altogether from all the oil companies. The economic term is “fungibility.”

        Then Huff Post refused to post my comment about all the mega multinational corporations cutting corners to earn a profit. It’s simply the unvarnished truth about mega multinational corps. And the government allows them to cut corners. It’s part of the discredited unfettered free market philosphy of Ayn Rand that the tea bag partiers are pushing, that the mega multinational corps. will do the right thing if they are given free reign. That’s just nonsense.

        • Questinia says:

          How could HP not post them? Never mind, they banned me for asking Socratic questions to other posters re what were they are doing there.

          Dissent, indeed.

      • Questinia says:

        I’ve never heard of suicide rate and high-rises, nor depression associated with the same. I’d be interested in hearing more about that.

        The cosmos is also part of nature and maybe if we do roam the cosmos we’ll find where we truly belong. Even where we maybe came from. We are the ground but we are also part of the cosmic dust that was formed at the outset of the universe.

        • whatsthatsound says:

          That is true, but I wouldn’t send us outward until we’ve learned to live better here, which is where the cosmic dust, that is everywhere, coalesced into us.

    • Questinia says:

      ….and while I’m at it. A little sumthin’ on A&E. Prior to the Adam’s rib nonsense, it was writ that Adam was made of menstrual blood and clay. We also know that the default human is female; the male is based on the female template.

      Men have been the ones to write the cultural scripts. The global patriarchy may need to cede to a matriarchy at this point.

      Just matriarchatin’

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