• choicelady : Bito – get well soon!!!

  • kesmarn : Good night, c’lady! So glad you were here tonight!

  • AdLib : Night CL!

  • choicelady : G’night everyone – I am up early so off to sleep now. Sweet dreams!

  • AdLib : CL – I’m happy to do what I can here at The Planet.

  • PatsyT : Bito !

  • AdLib : The crowd cheers, “BITO GET BETTER FAST!”

  • choicelady : AdLib – we’re workin’ on it – have a special mailer coming out for our members, and it works its way out to 6.5 million Protestants. Not shabby.

  • kesmarn : A bit O/T but, b’ito, if you’re still here: wishing you all the best and a speedy recovery.

  • AdLib : See you there Patsy!

  • PatsyT : I catch you guy at the afterchat

  • AdLib : Looks like it’s time to end tonight’s edition of Vox Populi. Thank you so much for another amazing edition. We can continue the conversation at the related article, click the following link to go there: «link»

  • AdLib : So, it’s more straight up lies. We have to get the truth out there!

  • choicelady : The anti-15 argument is that it is “tax money’ which it is NOT and that anyone (gasp) can use the pool of money, which is not true. There are qualifying standards for candidates. But it’s all “don’t let politicians use YOUR tax money for campaigns” when, in fact, it’s MY fees for being a lobbyist, not taxes.

  • AdLib : CL – what’s the argument against Prop 15? Money is free speech crap?

  • choicelady : AdLib – I do agree, and I do have allies who’d agree. Let’s talk. You have my email!

  • kesmarn : CL, that’s a great proposition!

  • kesmarn : Which does not mean I date from the Middle Ages, though, Patsy!

  • choicelady : Patsy – Prop 15 will be the “clean money” election for Secretary of State (pilot project). The pool of public money will come from a $700 fee on lobbyists every two years. We now pay $25. Needless to say, we lobbyists who support this measure aren’t very popular. There are SIX of us. Period. I think that should be a selling point myself. But it’s a great test of public campaign finance. Vote Yes on 15 and see if we can reclaim democracy from the corporate big boys!

  • PatsyT : Oooo kes even more cool !!

  • AdLib : CL – It’s getting about that time to end tonight’s edition of Vox Populi but I would be interested in continuing our conversation on this. Where things are in our society today and with the strength of the internet and blogs today, I think there could be a strong coalition for a Corporate Responsibility proposition.

  • kesmarn : Patsy, thanks. That is the window in the cathedral I was baptized in.

  • PatsyT : kes you avi is cool what is that from ?

  • choicelady : AdLib – back in 2004 we did get HALF of the signatures for Prop. 56 (to remove the supermajority requirement for budget and tax increases) that came close. Getting that many signatures with volunteers was unheard of. However, we were in collaboration with several other groups. I think we could do it again – but it’s HUGE work and would have to be fixed on one really big, worthwhile issue. Like removing the two-thirds vote on ballot and……..Let’ s think about it. We have allies now (Lako

  • kesmarn : It’s too bad the default avatars look like Fisher-Price Little People.

  • PatsyT : Is prop 15 the taxpayers right to vote?

  • AdLib : Cl – Google “PlanetPOV” alone, with your user name or with the name of any topic and see what happens…

  • PatsyT : CL you need a cool Avi !

  • AdLib : CL – I remember your saying that you were supporting Prop 15, a huge thanks! My thought is that with various organizations involved, volunteers could be maximized to minimize paying for petition signers.

  • kesmarn : Meant “my” not “by.” Typing worse than usual tonight.

  • choicelady : AdLib – cool! That’s impressive! Well heck, if we’re going to be Google famous, I’m gonna HAVE to get an avatar. Mine makes me look like a chess pawn. Or a muppet.

  • kesmarn : I googled by moniker once and found all sorts of more or less intelligent comments by me. Mostly less.

  • AdLib : Google and other search engines “crawl” sites so to put them in their search engines. Even if it makes you itch, it’s exactly what we want, people being able to find our articles when they search google.

  • kesmarn : AdLib explained it once, but I was deep in the fogs of fatigue and I forgot…