In a breathless display of hypocrisy and hyperbole Jacob Heilbrunn is drumming up the latest attempt by Al Qaeda as all Obama’s fault.  The gist of the article is that President Obama did not lose his mind, overreact and scare the American people to death enough after the attempted attack.

Up in the Air: Obama’s Terrorism Failure

Major 9/11 Commission Recommendations Still Not In Place

TSA, Customs Agencies Still Lack Permanent Leaders

Two al Qaeda Leaders Behind Northwest Flight 253 Terror Plot Were Released by U.S.

Obviously there were big mistakes made to let this man aboard the flight to begin with and from reports most of the blame lies with the State Departments poor screening when issuing him a visa.   About the only article that explained how the system really failed is, “The Trouser Bomber Effect: Watching Government Cure Incompetence with Idiocy“.  Not surprisingly the monetary influence of the suspects father probably played a part in the State Department’s decision to issue a Visa to the suspected terrorist.

Looking at the big picture I see too big problems in this country that is preventing us from solving our problems.  The first is a whole political party that refuses to cooperate and make this country better for political reasons who is supported by enough of the public to aid and abet their obstructionism.  The fact that there are dozens of appointments being blocked by the GOP in the Senate truly shows the depths of the GOP’s efforts to hinder progress or even a more competently run government.

The second is the shear volume of problems Bush left this country with in the first place.  Even with a good plan to triage all of this country’s problems there are just too many problems to fix in a short amount of time.

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javaz
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Looks like Newt will have a fun time on MTP or whatever show(s) he’ll be on this Sunday.

Newt says Obama cares more about the rights of terrorists than the safety of Americans and Newt is also demanding that Eric Holder and Janet Napolitano resign.

http://thinkprogress.org/2009/12/30/gingrich-terrorist-rights/

Gingrich/Palin 2012?

AdLib
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FYI: I moved all comments connected to the confusion over the “Request Deletion” function to the Help Desk.

In future, please post all questions about technical issues at the Help Desk so we can respond quickly and not disrupt other threads.

You can find a link to the Help Desk at the top of the far right column (titled, “CLICK HERE TO GO TO THE HELP DESK”), here’s the direct link which you can bookmark to keep handy: http://planetpov.com/2009/12/24/help-desk

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When functions are added or updated, they may appear differently. We will update the membership on major new additions or feature changes but do keep in mind that minor changes will occur from time to time. In this case, we have updated the function that allows you to edit your comments to the newest version. We have also updated WordPress to the newest version which has a few minor changes in appearance here and there.

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abby4ever
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Ad Lib…and everyone else too:

The confusion over the ‘Request Deletion’ thing was entirely mine, and the disruption was entirely my fault.

Apologies to all.

abby

kesmarn
Admin

abby,speaking for myself, no need to apologize. I can see how the confusion might have arisen. Please keep posting your very valuable insights!

javaz
Member

Was it Will Rogers that said, “The Best Defense we have as a nation is the Atlantic and Pacific”? or something like that.

Europe has dealt with terrorism for years.
Ireland had, and still has the IRA, even though they are more complacent now, but France had the nail bombs in their public trashcans and since that happened, they no longer have those type of receptacles in Paris.

We’ve been lucky, until 9/11 and we’re lucky again since thwarting the shoe-bomber under BushCO, and now the Amsterdam bomber over Detroit.

I lived in Paris, right after 9/11, January of 2002 was when we flew over there to live for 2 years.
They had armed military everywhere on the subways and trains, because the United States being attacked like we were on 9/11, echoed throughout the world.

They set up blocks by schools, and they took so many precautions beyond what they already had in place.

Let me tell you, that riding the trains and subways, and seeing men and women in full military dress with guns, and I mean BIG guns strapped on, was discomfiting, but comforting nonetheless.

While we were in France, there were more terrorist attacks in other areas of the world, such as the subway in Japan, whereby so many were killed and then the relief workers going in, heard all the cellphones ringing from the dead.

We have to accept the threat as real, and we must never be off-guard.
We must be aware.

And we in the US have another problem beyond Europe, where guns are not so easily accessible.

We must worry about our fellow Americans doing drive-by shootings, or like what just happened recently here in the Phoenix area.

A 43 year old woman was shot and killed after shopping at K-Mart, and her killers were caught, but they killed her for a gang initiation.

And two days before Christmas, a 57 year old woman who always jogged in her upper class neighborhood was gunned down, and there are no suspects.

We live in a violent world and a violent gun-loving America, yet we’re not safer.

And you laugh at me for being paranoid.

javaz
Member

Guess I forgot Pepe’s KISS suggestion – Keep it simple stupid!
DOH!

Emerald1943
Member

Interesting perspective! I know the genie is out of the bottle, but I wonder what things would be like if we didn’t have that darned 2nd amendment. (Oh boy! I’ll bet I’m gonna’ get grilled on that comment!)

Pepe Lepew
Member

Well, today, I trademarked my ” I blame Obama

javaz
Member

Disney might be interested.

escribacat
Member

I want one!

boomer1949
Member

Me too, me too!

AdLib
Admin

I found this on the Intertubes:

Blame

abby4ever
Guest

There is another hp article about the recent terror incident, by John Gambrell, which does not blame Obama. Rather, it asks us to feel sorry for Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, telling us how lonely and depressed and confused he has apparently been.

Hello? Millions of people are lonely and depressed and confused; they do not, however, pack explosives into their trousers and set out to blow up 300 people in mid-air.

javaz
Member

How anyone can continue to read HP is beyond me.
If I click on an article and it leads me to HP, I quickly close the browser as I refuse to read that garbage.
As far as I am concerned, HP is a rightwing rag by a rightwing hag.

BigDogMom
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BigDogMom

javaz, tell us how you really feel…LOL!

javaz
Member

I’m rather proud that I did relay my feelings without one cuss word!

bito
Member

x10 I find little use for that site. The only time I might go there is because of a link.

nellie
Member

I still check it out. I want to know what the progressive community is being told by its “leadership.” I should go to Kos more often for the same reason, but that site feels so disorganized.

And I keep posting because I feel obligated to turn the conversation back to the GOP and its obstruction — otherwise no one would ever say it over there.

abby4ever
Guest

‘Request Deletion’ for WHAT? A strong opinion?

Scheherazade
Member

I don’t know who is posting that on there. 🙁

javaz
Member

Are you talking here or on HP?

Scheherazade
Member

She means on here.

javaz
Member

No way on here.
It must be a glitch if it’s happening here.
Heck, I’d’ve been banned from here if that were so.

Scheherazade
Member

Abby, try to hover over it. See if it’s a link. I think I know what you’re talking about. It’s there so that you can request that your post be deleted if you wish. Like say you posted something and had a change of heart about it then you could request it be deleted.

bito
Member

abby, if you want I’ll hit “report comment”. Never knew wnt that link did! 😆

javaz
Member

Paranoia runs deep
Into your mind it will creep
It starts when you’re always afraid

Whoa, some freakiness going on – I’ve got to lay off the coffee!

abby4ever
Guest

Never mind this post, it’s based on a confusion….

quelle surprise, abby is confused.

javaz
Member

pas problem.

Happens to me all the time.

javaz
Member

pas des problem.

Happens to me all the time.

I just had it happen to me!!!

Freaky.

I tried editing, and it did some very weird thing.

YIKES.

Maybe I should switch from coffee and have a glass of wine.

escribacat
Member

I see that too, on my own posts. I assume it allows us to delete our own posts if we decide we don’t like something we said! 🙂

abby4ever
Guest

To escribacat and everyone who has looked into the ‘REQUEST DELETION’ thing on my posts (next to the little red garbage can icon):

Thank you for your efforts. Scheherazade has kindly explained it all to me. I thought someone was requesting that my posts be deleted because they were offensive or something, and I couldn’t understand what was so wrong with what I said about the ‘sad and lonely’ terrorist. I’d never seen ‘REQUEST DELETION’ (or the little red garbage can) before.

Apologies if I alarmed anyone.

abby

:[

javaz
Member

I’m paranoid as hell anyway, and for some reason, Pepe always replies to me that they want me paranoid, and that statement alone makes me even more paranoid.
What does Pepe know that I don’t?

Well, actually Pepe and everyone else knows a lot more than I do, but when it comes to my paranoia, oh, my head hurts.

bito
Member

😆

abby4ever
Guest

LOL !!!

Pepe Lepew
Member

OK, I’m outing myself.

I’m actually Ramirez.

… or am I?

kesmarn
Admin

heh heh heh…and you all knew that Andrea C was lurking here, but who knew that she was really….aiii….
….
…..?

javaz
Member

What does that mean?
Are you now Spanish or Mexican or Cuban and not French?
Or am I?

javaz
Member

You do like messing with my head, n’est ce que pas?
Or whatever.
I never did get the French writing thing down.

Pepe Lepew
Member

n’est ce pas.

javaz
Member

That’s it!
You’ve corrected me before.
So, are you really Ramirez?
And if so, does that mean you are a sexy skunk, but with a Spanish accent?

nellie
Member

HP seems to be doing all it can to make progressives look ridiculous.

Scheherazade
Member

nellie, do you know why abby keeps getting “Request Deletion” being put into her posts? 🙁 I’ve never seen it happen before.

Ohhhh nvm I see what it is…

nellie
Member

It seems like WordPress (our hosting service) is doing some upgrading today. Some of the forms are different, the post options are laid out differently. (Or perhaps AdLib is working behind the scenes…)

Emerald1943
Member

What the heck are you guys talking about? I have not seen “Request Deletion” or a little red garbage can either in anything! I think you guys are smokin’ something! 🙂

javaz
Member

Well, here it is fellow Planetarians, our answer to HP.
Yes, step right up and read who is pledging to take on HP!

http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2009/05/28/tucker-carlson-plans-a-huffington-post-rival/

“”Tucker Carlson Plans a Huffington Post Rival””

Mr. Bow-tie, I’mma-conservative-Jon-Stewart-wannabe-taking on HP!

(I promise this is my last one and may I nominate myself for the most annoying poster on the PPOV?)

nellie
Member

“We want to be creators of news.

javaz
Member

Tucker Carlson had a show on PBS, and we used to watch it, even though it was difficult.
PBS canceled him, because viewership fell, and on his last show for PBS, he whined about the “liberal” PBS canceling him because ‘liberals’ can’t handle the truth or opposing viewpoints.
This, about PBS that has Charlie Rose and interviews Kissinger regularly among other Republicans and this, about a station that airs “Religion and Ethics”, which by the way, is an excellent show.
Tucker Carlson tries hard, but he’s no Ann Coulter or Glenn Beck.
Heck, he even failed, like DeLay, on ‘Dancing with the Stars’ or whatever show that is on Fox.

nellie
Member

Carlson is a lightweight with a glass jaw.

javaz
Member

Carlson is an asshat.

nellie
Member

That, too. 🙂

bito
Member

j’avaz, O/T do you watch PBS out of Phoenix or Tucson? Or both?

javaz
Member

We watch PBS from Tempe and ASU.
With the converter box for digital, we get 4 PBS stations, and we love them all, well, the 4th one is all music with desert scenes, but it’s good for mood music.
Do you do free TV with a converter box?
If so, channel 3 here in Phoenix, just added ‘THIS’ TV and it’s all movies, most old, but some fairly new.

escribacat
Member

It will be interesting to see how it compares. I’ve never been able to take Carlson seriously with that dumb bowtie he wears. Gawd.

Hopeington
Member
Hopeington

I’m supposed to be working, but I have to add my 2 cents.
I saw this article, that for some reason, disturbed me more than all else I’d seen over at HP. I read it on the 24th, the day they posted it, and it was already closed for comments, which I found strange.
It is utterly shameless Obama Bashing at it’s high point.
Fox would be proud!!
How to combat this ceaseless attack of rethoric in the upcoming election cycle is my biggest concern.
We need a plan or these folks will tire us out. ?????
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-peter-breggin/what-if-president-obama-s_b_402955.html

javaz
Member

Maybe it’s the new coffeemaker from Santa, but today I am revved up and ready to go!

(it did help to take a few days off for frivolity, but I’m ready to take it on now)

YES WE CAN.
And yes, we will!
Fired up and ready.

nellie
Member

I notice comments are closed for that piece of nonsense. He must have been getting pilloried.

Step by step, HP is increasing the right wing voice on the site. I’m expecting the progressive pretense to be thrown aside entirely within the next two years. Too bad for Tucker Carlson. He thought he’d found a new niche.

escribacat
Member

Nellie, I have an idea for the AH “project” you mentioned last week. I think it was Tiger who posted the link to the AH column archives. I skimmed through some of them and thought it was be interesting to do a more thorough job of that and track her trajectory over a period of years, based on her own writings. It would take some time but could be very revealing.

nellie
Member

I saw those columns. I thought they were fascinating.

That she could transform a personal blog of such a modest quality into the Huffington Post is pretty remarkable. Arianna definitely has a good head for business.

I was thinking about looking at those columns to find out why and when her politics changed. Might be interesting to know that.

I’m also thinking HP might not be the only site to look at. It’s the demoralizing that I have a problem with. We need to find a different way.

javaz
Member

This bullhockey from the “Fair and Balanced” station has got to stop –

http://rawstory.com/2009/12/simmons-obama-emboldened-terrorists/

“”Wayne Simmons, a former CIA agent and member of the military analysts program, which the New York Times outed in 2008 as a Pentagon propaganda effort, told Fox’s Brian Kilmeade that terrorists are “emboldened” to attack the United States and its allies because “they recognize … that there will be no repercussions from the Obama administration.”””

This just makes me sick.

javaz
Member

I’m liking Reid more and more –

Harry Reid is going to push for the vote for a new TSA director no matter DeMint’s shouts about unions.

http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/2009/12/29/cloture_tsa

nellie