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Republicans “Deem and Pass” the Hypocrisy on Healthcare Reform Bill

This is like the Terri Schiavo debacle. In the end, it’s just going to bite the GOP in the ass.

» Posted By nellie On March 18, 2010 @ 8:24 am

We got the CBO score. Right on schedule.

» Posted By nellie On March 18, 2010 @ 7:03 am

What a rush of traumatic memories, K. It’s just not right that you should be in limbo with your health coverage. Or e’cat. Or anyone. I think about things like that and don’t see how anyone can feel resentful about this bill. It’s going to be so helpful — for everyone who will benefit from it, for the freedom people will have, for the financial security it will give so many families. It’s just in time for so many people on the brink. And it will change the way we deal with health issues forever.

There’s more to do, of course, but geez — this is a good thing.

» Posted By nellie On March 17, 2010 @ 7:04 pm

Sometimes I think it’s just marketing. Marketing from the right and from the site.

» Posted By nellie On March 17, 2010 @ 7:00 pm

I was going by your post — changing from the “not good enough” frame of mind. I wrestle with that, too — but in the end, I want to move forward, even if it’s slowly.

» Posted By nellie On March 17, 2010 @ 6:59 pm

That’s a profound change of heart, Cher. That takes a lot of soul searching.

I’m such a nut for primaries and primary challengers. Jane Harman has a primary challenger this year — Marci Winograd, who has challenged her before. But Harman’s votes have been really good since Marci got 36% of the votes in the last primary. And she came out early and strong for H.R. 3200. So she has my vote this year in the primary. Last time I voted for Marci.

And I’m going to write her and let her know how her stance on health care translated into a vote.

» Posted By nellie On March 17, 2010 @ 5:04 pm

That would be great.

» Posted By nellie On March 17, 2010 @ 5:01 pm

Sadly, you might be right about that. All these people are well paid, well heeled, corporately INSURED folks on the radio.

» Posted By nellie On March 17, 2010 @ 4:59 pm

I don’t like this bill, either, javaz. But when H.R. 3200 came out of the House, and I read everything they had put in that bill, I realized they were serious about passing a reform bill. And since then, I’ve felt confident. Even this stinker of a Senate Bill is a solid start and will change so many people’s lives.

It has been something to watch!

» Posted By nellie On March 17, 2010 @ 4:51 pm

Am I the only one who feels really good about this congress passing health care? I’ve been listening to whining progressives all day — we’ve been betrayed, we’ve been let down, the leadership has failed, we’ll never get single payer, on and on and on.

All I can think is — “Damn, we got a health care bill passed in just over a year. I never thought we would do it this fast.”

» Posted By nellie On March 17, 2010 @ 4:44 pm

People can already keep their existing health care under the pending bill.

Federal law will trump whatever the Oklahoma legislature decides to dream up.

Seriously — the GOP is turning into a club for the anti-social.

» Posted By nellie On March 17, 2010 @ 3:06 pm

Agreed.

» Posted By nellie On March 17, 2010 @ 2:27 pm

Very interesting timeline — let’s see if the CBO reports out tonight.

» Posted By nellie On March 17, 2010 @ 2:27 pm

Think of it as “reinforcement.” 🙂

» Posted By nellie On March 17, 2010 @ 2:00 pm

Democrats really need to get this done now so they can talk about the benefits for the next six months. They need to run on passing this bill. With the money being poured into elections by corporations this year, the dems are going to have a real fight on their hands to keep the congress.

And if they lose the congress — there goes the president’s agenda. A lot is riding on this politically. If they can’t see the benefit to the public, at least they should understand the political ramifications.

» Posted By nellie On March 17, 2010 @ 1:22 pm

The country won’t go bankrupt — and individual families will be saved from bankruptcy as well.

» Posted By nellie On March 17, 2010 @ 1:14 pm

Some of the most successful systems in the world are mixed public and private systems. I don’t see anything wrong with that. There is enough support for a robust public system to see it happen.

What I tire of is the complaining about the bill that’s on the table — which I hear every morning on KPOJ from hosts that I really love. But after all this time, it should be pretty clear that just this meagre reform faced major opposition, will just squeak through, and is a major accomplishment. Let’s pass it and then work on making it better.

» Posted By nellie On March 17, 2010 @ 1:09 pm

I know from experience that if you don’t have insurance, you don’t get care. I’ve been there — w a family member who ended up very sick and deceased.

» Posted By nellie On March 17, 2010 @ 12:56 pm

Yep, love Nancy. She’s really smart.

» Posted By nellie On March 17, 2010 @ 12:18 pm

She’s absolutely WRONG when she says it’s not a lack of insurance that keeps people from getting care. People who don’t have insurance don’t get care. And this bill will subsidize people who can’t afford premiums. Along with that — THERE WILL BE A PUBLIC OPTION (I don’t care what anyone says), now or soon in the future, that will contribute to cost control.

It’s easy to complain because this bill isn’t everything that was hoped for. It’s a lot harder, but a lot more productive, to talk about what the bill does that is so desperately needed by so many people.

Anyone who wants more from health care reform — I hope they’re gearing up to work on it after this version passes. All that energy that goes into complaining — I hope it’s redirected into some activism.

» Posted By nellie On March 17, 2010 @ 12:13 pm

And it amounts to a vote on the senate bill. I don’t blame Pelosi for doing it this way. She doesn’t trust the Senate — and she’s got plenty of history to base that reservation on.

» Posted By nellie On March 17, 2010 @ 12:10 pm

Different parts of the bill come into effect at different times. Some parts will go into effect immediately. I’ll look to see if I can find a summary of the provisions and schedule.

» Posted By nellie On March 17, 2010 @ 12:08 pm

B’ito, I think you could have stopped your question to javaz after the word “think.” And the answer would be, “No.”

» Posted By nellie On March 17, 2010 @ 11:07 am

Yglesias has become one of my favorite bloggers. He always does a good job of pointing out the double standard in the GOP and the media.

» Posted By nellie On March 17, 2010 @ 11:06 am

Thanks, javaz. This is insider stuff that goes on all the time, but it’s good to see it in print. We don’t ever hear the speaker say that she has the votes if there’s even the slightest doubt. There must be some rigorous horse trading going on right now.

When this passes — it will open the floodgates for the rest of the Obama agenda, thank goodness.

» Posted By nellie On March 17, 2010 @ 7:51 am

It will pass.

» Posted By nellie On March 16, 2010 @ 10:34 pm

This is great. It’s sadly accurate — it’s not even hyperbole.

» Posted By nellie On March 16, 2010 @ 10:29 pm

Good — I thought he would.

» Posted By nellie On March 16, 2010 @ 10:26 pm

Paid trolls are swamping every online news outlet. It makes me think the comment section should become a thing of the past.

» Posted By nellie On March 16, 2010 @ 10:22 pm

Polls consistently show that when the provisions in the bill are surveyed, the approval rate is overwhelming. I think we have a congress full of chickens. Misinformed chickens at that.

I still believe it will pass. I haven’t a doubt.

» Posted By nellie On March 16, 2010 @ 2:59 pm