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Everything from “Over There” belongs “Here!”

Ecat – I think I’ve got that now. I think that makes it interesting – AH obsessed with Sara who is obsessed with POTUS and FLOTUS.

I laughed hard tonight, CPAC. Sara got 3%, while the hard charging and new TP beauty queen Michele B got 4% and Tpaw got 4%. When you are outpolled by those two you might want to rethink your strategy,

As for HP and who gets the press, note how Rand Paul gets very little press on HP while Haley, Sara, Michele and Tpaw are covered all the time. What’s up with that?

» Posted By jdmn17 On February 12, 2011 @ 8:13 pm

And now it’s turned to the right and you are banned. Can you appeal? Somehow I don’t think they want YOUR type of conservatism.

» Posted By jdmn17 On February 12, 2011 @ 7:51 pm

Cher

How does she fit him in between Issa and the Newt?

» Posted By jdmn17 On February 12, 2011 @ 7:50 pm

Es – that made me laugh, I read the two links and it seems no one knows what she is. Does she know or will she simply go to where there is the least resistance or the warmest welcome.

For all we know she’ll show up as Palin’s business manager

» Posted By jdmn17 On February 12, 2011 @ 7:49 pm

No sweat on the thumbs, I decided to leave that stuff behind me when I left. I liked we had fans and faves and badges, that was something people worked for and it helped me find people who were long time posters and learn from them. So to that end it mattered there. Maybe some day here as well but for now I like the level playing field we are all on and I am already much more attuned to people’s names and avatars than I was over there. I had a complicated hierarchy to get through the often pages of posts. Don’t need that here so much. And I like we get on a thread and sort of stay there a while. Not being modded to death we can actually talk.

» Posted By jdmn17 On February 12, 2011 @ 7:46 pm

Cher, when it comes to donuts this house is dead serious. Up in northern MN – town called Grand Marais – there is a summer donut shop – World’s Finest – and that they are. These tonight proved once again that a hot donut is the only way to fly. You are awesome. And yours was the last post I read before we headed to the store, despite Sara Palin’s words. Sometimes there are coincidences. Yum!

» Posted By jdmn17 On February 12, 2011 @ 7:38 pm

Thanks Cher but you are number one in my sons heart tonight for the “donuts”.

You were one of the first I saw gone from HP on Monday, god, has it really not even been a week?

» Posted By jdmn17 On February 12, 2011 @ 7:25 pm

Truth
Thanks, I’m a little shy on the uptake, once I get settled my kids often ask me if my train of thought has a caboose. I think they want me to shut it.
David said he appreciates concise and succinct so I tried to lay out my arguments that way

I spent years in market analysis and medical health care delivery so I am attuned to changes, one night I was outraged at some dude and I flagged him/her. Instead of seeing a count, I saw the flag was successful, I wondered what was up but like any betrayal it’s only after the fact that we often put the pieces together. I think she did dump them after the AOL talks began. Why else would she do that? She had sent her trolls to incite us all and in return we repaid her with our venom toward them. Dumping the flag count meant she could leave them there.

The other thing. In the old days when comments were deleted they were usually of the troll hate variety. In the last month I noted a lot of the posters were complaining about getting perfectly reasonable posts deleted and I began to wonder again. And then it seemed that when a post was deleted you used to be able to at least view the replies. In many cases even the replies were gone from the site so I suspect these posts are the ones who were complaining about legitimate posts going away.

All little stuff but it added up.

Thanks again, I try hard and am not always eloquent but at least here I can actually write and practice.

» Posted By jdmn17 On February 12, 2011 @ 7:23 pm

That’s funny because they would leave on the most outrageous comments they must have known would get venomous responses. And as others have pointed out, I would go from reasonable remarks to venom after reading post after post with the most vitriolic rants. Or worse, just some crappy remark that was just crap.

» Posted By jdmn17 On February 12, 2011 @ 7:09 pm

I chirped in a little but there were about ten really high fan posters who were screaming like chained dogs. Like I said above, I was on the fence, David’s banning pretty much put me over the edge. Don’t get too swell headed David. It was a lot of things but that was the tipping point Monday came and that was that.

» Posted By jdmn17 On February 12, 2011 @ 7:07 pm

But only if it’s Canadian beer. My hockey playing days here in MN ended with really bad MN brewed stuff. Thankfully they are all out of business

» Posted By jdmn17 On February 12, 2011 @ 7:05 pm

KB, I didn’t get banned – yet – but to watch my fan count drop like a small rock on Monday was dramatic and foretold the size of the exodus. I can recall reading comments from other people I followed who were talking about losing 30-40 fans in two days. It was clear people were bailing and when I went in to look at some of my favorite posters they were gone. Hence my finding the link here and following it quickly. I wasn’t a high fan numbered guy so I didn’t have the time or effort others had put in. But I felt angry about several things and knew the quality of the stories, already disintegrating, would continue down. That seems to have been proven right so far. It barely resembles what I saw two years ago.
When I read here about people being banned for simply posting this site as a link I knew AH was taking revenge on people. Whew.

» Posted By jdmn17 On February 12, 2011 @ 7:03 pm

David

1. Actually you would have had to have written “you’re full of chit”
2. I believe your being banned that last night before the announcement is somehow linked to the announcement. What you wrote that was banned is between you and HP but I was there and read the outrage from several people who are here posting daily. It was a watershed moment for me.
3. What astonished me was they would ban you while the endless mindless attacks from people who we all know well and those with 0-2 fans continued unabated. I knew you well enough that your posts, while often irritating me, were at least backed up with an opinion or facts or both. So they banned one of the conservative views who actually would argue, mostly graciously, their point.
4. I suspect her plan was simple. Once the talks with AOL started she recruited people to come in and present a contrary point of view, moving herself to the right of center, or perhaps simply coming out from where she’d be hiding all along.
5. Bringing in the snark and not curtailing it was just her way of getting back at the people who’d made her site so rich and interesting
6. I recall when she dropped the flag count. I thought or at least wondered then why that was. Perhaps she didn’t want to identify the number of times the snarkers were being flagged so when the due diligence guys reviewed the site they couldn’t see how unified the regular posters were toward these intruders.

Lastly, I think you need to decompress from leaving there as much as people like me do. We all got jobbed and we all need time to take a breath and let it go.

It’s a pleasure to see you here.

How’d I do with being clear and succinct?

» Posted By jdmn17 On February 12, 2011 @ 6:48 pm

Woof Woof oh Mighty one. Love it and it’s got my vote

» Posted By jdmn17 On February 12, 2011 @ 6:23 pm

KB, We need to send a message to SueinCa because she got me here as well.

I have several people I’m hoping come over but I have done my part, the rest is in their hands.

Anyway, it’s great to finally talk to people who were mostly one liner things back there. I mean they’d mod almost anything personal – yuck

» Posted By jdmn17 On February 12, 2011 @ 6:20 pm

So I don’t have to worry about coming in some morning and see a blog by AH defending her sale and subsequent repositioning? That’s maybe what rankles me most. I occasionally go to TMZ and Radar and read the posts for laughs about various people, then look at the comments. They are really wacked. Now AH comes along and tells us that what she was doing. So I feel a little fooled. And that’s what I need to get out of my craw.

» Posted By jdmn17 On February 12, 2011 @ 6:12 pm

Or we can tell them. Most coming in are known and say hello. They can be shipped over here for detox if they need it. Might be a fun and therapeutic place for a while.

» Posted By jdmn17 On February 12, 2011 @ 6:08 pm

Bito, With you 100%. It’s easy to get off on a tangent on other threads and this is a great place for people to come, esp newcomers, and get things off their chest. I get the rodent comments, things are warming up and I’m sure the varmints will be coming out soon. Let’s hope like hell we don’t get them here.

I’m ready for some cookies and more cocoa, things are heating up here and we don’t need the fire tonight

Thanks again for the welcome. I suppose you guys are a little overwhelmed

» Posted By jdmn17 On February 12, 2011 @ 6:05 pm

kb, talking at you is a treat. In the weeks before the sell out I noted some of the people I fanned were gone and I wondered. I felt the bad vibes there. I remember complaining about their being four articles about Palin and another with her photo in it on the politics page one day. And two stories about her daughter as well. I wrote about it and was really pissed because she was not even a real politician. Sort of a new version of Ann Coulter. Instead of being shoved aside to whatever tab she deserved there she was hogging the page. I wrote several angry posts and each time they were deleted. I knew then that time was running short for me. Glad as hell I found here.

» Posted By jdmn17 On February 12, 2011 @ 5:48 pm

I’m having a blast. We can actually talk to each other. And process and disagree.

» Posted By jdmn17 On February 12, 2011 @ 5:43 pm

Boomer – And let’s be real about it. The ones who were here have already experienced the freedom. The people who’ve drifted in since last Monday – me included, a lot of us early birds had reached the end of our ropes. So we can in pissed and ranting. Now they trickle in, but they still need to talk about it, it’s clear as a bell that AH has duped a lot of people. So we’ll hopefully see a steady stream of folks and they can come here and decompress. Maybe we can call this the decompression chamber, We need them out there on the blogs, not doubled over from the bends of HP.

» Posted By jdmn17 On February 12, 2011 @ 5:22 pm

Awesome. I feel the force is weakening. Two plus years of daily contact and now it’s over. I go back, what am I looking for? The thing that grabbed me back in 2008? I really don’t know but something is so wrong there I can’t even believe it attracted me in the first place.

I will adhere to the reassignment of the HP remarks to here, I think it’s hard at times when you make a funny, like misspelling a word you had to misspell or it would get modded.

We’ll get there – I personally appreciate your willingness to let us get it out of our systems. A lot of us came here from the cold and you not only let us in you gave us cocoa and a place close to the fire. That’s great and it was needed. If our coming here had been met with no acknowledgment then some of us might have wandered off again. I know I felt really lost when I stumbled in last Monday. Now I’m getting used to it, have reconnected with some old friends and more importantly have met some new ones and even more importantly have even had some real conversations with people here.

Thanks to all of you here

» Posted By jdmn17 On February 12, 2011 @ 5:17 pm

The Age of Obtuseness

I’d like to get Gilgore’s and the other Hoosiers here – their take on it. I know there are lots of them. Some more PC than others. As for Hoosiers. It was hokey as hell but in the end it is a great movie. Dennis Hoppers first real step back from the abyss. Sort of. He’s an interesting dude

» Posted By jdmn17 On February 12, 2011 @ 4:18 pm

Notice how we rarely see film of battles and casualties over in Iraq and Afghan? think they learned their lesson after Nam? The body bag shots, the war protests, Cronkite regularly giving body counts of our guys and talking about the ticking clock on the expenditures?

I thought I was having a flashback when I mentioned to someone how one night I thought I heard WC talk about how we had reached a point in spending where it would have been cheaper to have simply gone in, clear cut and paved Viet Nam into a giant parking lot. Was that the inspiration for the song?

» Posted By jdmn17 On February 12, 2011 @ 3:59 pm

Grandma was of the opinion it referred to the hill people, she was one of them, the southern leaning people, English origin who worked the coal mines. I tend to go with her explanation or the boat dudes. There’s nothing I’ve ever seen about the term being a term referring to industrious hard working folks. It was more derogatory down there, I suppose they had to clean it up a little because of IU

» Posted By jdmn17 On February 11, 2011 @ 6:56 pm

When they lose their jobs then they start to see things a little differently

» Posted By jdmn17 On February 11, 2011 @ 6:52 pm

Bito, same deal in MN. Farm Subs and ethanol make the farmers very happy

» Posted By jdmn17 On February 11, 2011 @ 6:11 pm

Tells you something, There’s the one my grandma told me. She was born there in 1891 and I tend to believe her – well did. I think they’ve tried to rewrite it several times to make it more interesting. If there were any Canadians here tonight reading this they would understand how that almost got me beat up in a bar one night in Canada when my friend Pierre, whose English was good but not as good with Saki in him, tried to call me a Hooooosier because he knew I was from Indy, instead it kept coming out HOSER and that’s not the nicest term in certain parts of Canada. So as we drew menacing glances I yelled down the table Hoosier enough times he finally got it and the room relaxed again.

» Posted By jdmn17 On February 11, 2011 @ 6:02 pm

At best, if you go back and look at the former repub Presidents how many would even pass through the primaries today? A couple would have to switch parties

» Posted By jdmn17 On February 11, 2011 @ 5:56 pm

I think the brutality of the Civil War was beyond anyones worst dreams. The battle casualties and intensity of the fighting astonished even the hardest Generals. Grant was successful because he didn’t give a damn how many died to take an objective and he knew early that he would have a nearly endless supply of troops. They never stopped the immigration ships from landing and many of the new arrivals simply were signed on to specialized units and marched off with absolutely no knowledge of what was coming.

Think of the percentage of southern men who died in the war. Most people would argue that many dead would kill a lifestyle. Southern women saved the culture. Without them the south would be nothing like it was before the war.

» Posted By jdmn17 On February 11, 2011 @ 5:53 pm

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