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HH, love your posts and you are dead on accurate with that. I do believe AH went out of her way to encourage them. More clicks = more money

» Posted By jdmn17 On February 13, 2011 @ 6:05 pm

BDM.

One night about a month ago someone who I was a fan of posted about either having gone to a site or knowing someone who did. She said that when we saw someone with few fans and I think a four digit number behind it they were paid from a specific right wing website. Of course there were three or four immediate snarks back, ugly replies, all from low to no fans with the name and four letters behind them. Ten minutes later the original post and ALL the replies were gone, poof. But I remembered and I think that was one of the first major cracks in my relationship with HP. If someone was paying people to come there and raise hell and get paid for it then something was very very wrong there. From that point on whenever I saw one of those people I called them out as a paid troll, most of them disappeared pretty fast. No hero or medal for me but I was sure as hell pissed they would resort to that when others like the rest of us were mostly there to talk.

» Posted By jdmn17 On February 13, 2011 @ 6:03 pm

ASmom. I’m agnostic, or the freest form of druid 🙂

It really galled me at HP how some of the worst words were directed at my atheist friends, assumptions and accusations. And yet when I posted a response like I didn’t care if I was going to their hell because all my spiritual friends and I would be a lot happier separated from them it got trashed or finally not even posted.

The christian church had me for the first twelve years of my life and then I found my own feet and my own way and I’ve never looked back.

Glad you are here

» Posted By jdmn17 On February 13, 2011 @ 5:56 pm

Choice, great words. Glad you are here

I live in MN and I’ve been dismayed at the way the local press reports these issues. Sort of a backhanded snark, the way they talk down when they are discussing progressive religious responses. Almost as though they give the headlines to the far right and “oh by the way”. And when they do report something progressive, like gay minister or gay/lesbian couple marrying you can almost hear the disgust in their voices. And what’s astonishing about that is MN has a very prominent place for gays and lesbians in our vibrant community. I really don’t get it.

» Posted By jdmn17 On February 13, 2011 @ 5:52 pm

Hey red, nice to see you. Been an interesting couple of days with new folks coming in. Get oriented and have fun

» Posted By jdmn17 On February 13, 2011 @ 5:47 pm

Zoot

Bang on my friend

» Posted By jdmn17 On February 13, 2011 @ 5:37 pm

Welcome Vogie – glad you got here in one piece.

» Posted By jdmn17 On February 13, 2011 @ 5:33 pm

A Short List of Pres. Obama’s Accomplishments

Then we need to focus our efforts the real lawmakers (and breakers), the house and senate. Anyone who thought that POTUS could simply come in an change things with his lone presence was mistaken. I think we all hoped for a change to the ways things have trended but there are a lot of other issues and he’s one man. I am trying to practice patience. As much as a I chafe at some of the things he’s done I do think he, for the most part, has the people’s interests at stake. I wish I could say the same for congress and SCOTUS. We have to find a direction and stay with it. Long journey’s take many steps.

» Posted By jdmn17 On February 14, 2011 @ 8:35 am

Welcome Kelly, so many new faces the last two days. Glad you are one of them

» Posted By jdmn17 On February 14, 2011 @ 8:30 am

Random Thougts

tanya – I hand build furniture from reclaimed lumber, I recently concluded a conversation with a Chinese company who wanted to order one of my table to be shipped to Chine. The man told me it was for his personal use but in speaking to a friend who takes down barns he informed me that there were several barn deconstructers who were selling large quantities of barn materials to the Chinese. Impact on me? Cost of materials is edging up and supply is far less than it was six months ago. So they wanted one of my pieces, and probably others work, probably intent on taking them apart or at least to have a template. When I consider how much they pay for the materials, shipping, fabricating and then shipping completed pieces back to the states you know they have to be paying virtually nothing for labor. I can’t compete with that and I don’t know if they’ll be successful but the immediate impact to me back here is less profit today and the risk of seeing my pieces copied and then put out at prices here below mine. I don’t charge a lot for my work but I can feel the squeeze already. I think that’s why I’m such a focused person on buying locally or at worst nationally. I feel like we are losing ground every day.

» Posted By jdmn17 On February 13, 2011 @ 7:21 am

Everything from “Over There” belongs “Here!”

2nd class

I have an advanced marketing degree and you are right – we were taught about “positioning” products and my favorite book from there was called “Positioning, the Battle for your Mind”. It really nailed the whole world of subterfuge.

I learned well, thirty years of massaging data and messages and I got really good at it. Finally I tired of it, guess you spend enough years putting lipstick on a pig and you realize you are still selling pigs.

» Posted By jdmn17 On February 17, 2011 @ 5:27 pm

ecat

I was over there yesterday and ranted and shouted and used “bad” names. I wonder if the banning has stopped for now? They did delete most everything I wrote but I knew that going in. I got a message this morning and went over briefly. Looked at the posts on the story and started to feel the anger rising, took Truth’s and some others loving advice and bailed out. I don’t think we’ll get banned. They have turned over enough of the high fan posters they don’t need to worry about my measly totals.
I might have made mod2 status last night. I think I flagged about 100 posts on the Scott Brown article alone 🙂

Definitely NOT pundit material, or is that pundint? I know Sara Palin must have used that term at least twice in her interview with Sean.

» Posted By jdmn17 On February 17, 2011 @ 5:09 pm

He’s kind of a pain in the ass that way. Still you gotta love him

» Posted By jdmn17 On February 16, 2011 @ 9:14 pm

And sometimes it’s just crazy as can be.

» Posted By jdmn17 On February 16, 2011 @ 9:09 pm

You want me to send you a nice one now? I know you better so I could really butter it up nicely

» Posted By jdmn17 On February 16, 2011 @ 8:59 pm

Welcome itchy

I think you’ll like it here. I have been back to the old place talking to friends and it’s just so tiring to wade through post after post of snark and name calling

Much mellower here

» Posted By jdmn17 On February 16, 2011 @ 6:27 am

Welcome Algebra. I got where you got about ten days ago, the day of the big News!

Once the threads went on lock down that was that, final nail.

Hope you make this a regular stopping point

» Posted By jdmn17 On February 16, 2011 @ 5:29 am

Welcome to the Planet, there are a few things you’ll notice different. No trolls, hateful remarks, disgusting comments about the people in the article and then the commenters who call them out. Longer posts, actual words instead of code. You can swear, although not at each other. Much more reason and in depth thoughts.

One liners welcome but not required 🙂

Mostly its about the freedom to express yourself.

The biggest problem? Keeping up with the posts but there are some good cues, you can see where the most recent posts are, you can see what the most visited one are and if you want someone specific there’s a member directory.

We are all one and the same here. That makes it level and even for the “shyer” ones like me, I can just be a part of this.

» Posted By jdmn17 On February 16, 2011 @ 5:27 am

Let me take a shot at this. I’m not an intellectual – in fact I am pretty down to earth. What you said is well thought. I don’t want you here because I can yell at you or call you names for your beliefs. I am tired as hell of that, in both directions. There are a lot of different points of view here, hint- I think that’s how it got its name. I will listen and respect your views here. I am not about to name call you as some shill of some brainwashing by some agency. I really don’t care how you got to where you are, but I am interested to know how you express your views. I would love to have a conversation about how you came to believe the MSM is led by liberals. I am really curious to have a decent conversation with someone about it because I have thought for years, when I lived in MD in the early 1990’s that the idea of a liberal leaning media was a myth propagated by the conservative leaning corporate owners of the media so they could use it to manipulate what gets fed to the masses. See, there I go.

I also sense the frustration many people have with the late night comedy writers – I assume you are mostly pointing your finger at Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert. I once again would enjoy a discussion on them. Other late night comics I’ve found to be a little of both. One more conservative, the other more liberal. And I think the conservative has a larger audience.

Whatever. I just personally wanted to let you know that despite your reservations, we (listen to me! I’ve been here a fucking week and I’m talking like a veteran) are wiling to listen and discuss. This is not HP. There is no personal attacking allowed. That much I know for sure

» Posted By jdmn17 On February 15, 2011 @ 4:42 pm

Thanks Dawg, there are some real good people still locked in over there.

» Posted By jdmn17 On February 15, 2011 @ 2:51 pm

2belinda

You do better than me. Sometimes I’m driving in the US, the next thing you know I’m over in bloody England. I wish to hell I could make up my mind

» Posted By jdmn17 On February 15, 2011 @ 2:50 pm

I’ll be back soon, I have to check that out 🙂

» Posted By jdmn17 On February 15, 2011 @ 2:49 pm

truth

I am doing the same, two people since last night have come over and registered. I’m getting pretty crafty, staying off busy threads, seeking specific names. I find the old timers tend to find each other and swim against the current so if I find one I can throw some things out, hints and clues. Two managed to decipher them and came. I’m not sure whether more is better. I’m sure the “old timers” here are scratching their heads a little.

BHPE – before hp exodus
AHPE – after hp exodus.

The nice thing is there are still more coming. A ragged lot indeed. We need a MASH unit around here. Oh, I guess this is where we send them

» Posted By jdmn17 On February 15, 2011 @ 1:02 pm

Salvatoris. I think most of the posts before me have fairly clearly stated both the diversity of thought here as well as the commitment we all have to open dialog. I think the reason I came here from HP was simple. I was tired and weary from fighting all the time, most of it from right leaning people and some from a more liberal or left leaning stance than me. I can’s speak for anyone but myself. I can come here, read, digest and agree, disagree or be neutral about many topics and posts.

I have been disappointed in the President many times. I have ranted and screamed and in the end I have come to understand that the President really has a limited amount of power. He is the leader of the nation but he does not make law and unlike previous governments here there is a decidedly hostile attitude toward him I think no other President has ever faced. Call it race or call it that the left had a field day with W and they are getting payback. It really doesn’t matter. It’s more about what we can do. The President has made some gains but the entrenched hostility in the House and Senate has made forwarding any progressive agenda much harder than it should have been. For some reason the right seems to feel that the humans here in this country who are citizens are less important to them than the 2% of the super wealthy and the corporations. Short of a revolution like Egypt that change is going to take time. We cannot undo thirty years of drifting toward the right in two years. Nor can we ignore that there are a lot of people apparently comfortable with the status quo, or at least what they think it is. I would urge you to stick around, or at least stop by from time to time. As I’ve read here many times, there is no either/or. You can post several places and in fact talk about it without fear of being moderated or even banned. I only ask you respect my feelings and express your discomfort with them respectfully as I intend and practicing doing the same. Welcome

» Posted By jdmn17 On February 15, 2011 @ 10:23 am

Yaxchi

Welcome. always nice to see old/new faces

» Posted By jdmn17 On February 13, 2011 @ 8:26 pm

Having fun yet?

» Posted By jdmn17 On February 13, 2011 @ 7:44 pm

KB, I hadn’t thought of that but you might be right, some of the things I had tossed at me I put down to 12 year olds in their parents dark basement. Now it may just be they were people for whom English was not their primary language and they were simply repeating things they were told to say. Maybe too that’s why the could only snark with one or two word answers. Funny too how they could say much meaner words than we could get away with

» Posted By jdmn17 On February 13, 2011 @ 7:44 pm

I always felt they were acting in such a condescending fashion

» Posted By jdmn17 On February 13, 2011 @ 7:39 pm

I always laughed when the troll would post their authoritative link from somewhere like wehatetheblackdude. something. Yeah, that’s going to sway my opinion.

» Posted By jdmn17 On February 13, 2011 @ 7:38 pm

Yes Feisty, you can speak your mind here and find a lot of energy we all need to release. I’ll be back because I’ve got a few leftovers even though I’ve been here since they opened this thread

» Posted By jdmn17 On February 13, 2011 @ 7:28 pm

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