Displaying 4,081 To 4,110 Of 5,146 Comments The Legacy of Nixon: This Democratic Party Lovely, kes. I did not know that quotation from St. Augustine. Thank you! » Posted By choicelady On December 4, 2010 @ 11:51 pm Welcome to the Planet! I do agree with much of what you said, especially about Eagleton. I was the 39th and 41st CA Assembly district coordinator for the McG. campaign so watched it all unfold with great consternation. I remember liberals shunning McGovern for not “standing by” Eagleton when the latter had not been truthful, HAD in fact finally resigned and not been dumped, but never lifted a finger to remind people of that fact. He was indeed clinging to the Veep position with both hands. What is really dreadful about that moment though is what is happening today – McGovern got the BLAME as if he’d done something wrong just as Obama is being blamed for the self destruction of the Dems in Congress. A dear friend pointed out though that it was all for the good – had McGovern won and Watergate emerged, McGovern would have been blamed for it, Nixon would have looked “persecuted” instead of being held up for all to see during his own administration. At least at the time, his win in ’72 may have been the best thing that could have happened. Our weakness, though, was believing that it ENDED conservative drives for power. It only whetted them. What mystifies me is how there ever was a “purification” of Nixon – the evil that man did was beyond belief. It has been noted that when George Wallace was shot and the FBI finally ascertained the identity of Arthur Bremer, when the feds got to Bremer’s apartment, the WH plumbers WERE ALREADY THERE. How did they KNOW when Bremer’s identity was not yet publicly revealed? It’s an unanswered question no one ever bothered to pursue. This nation has many and sundry problems not least of which involves a tendency to pillory liberals and give a pass to conservatives. I understand Marion’s abject frustration. The other problem is the utter disarray of the Left – the infighting, the backstabbing, the competitive slavering for identity and control. It’s been what keeps us divided and uncooperative. The Right has the same huge egos, but they find ways to work together for their goals. We don’t. EVER. I share a lot of Marion’s frustrations with the Dems. And I have no alternatives since I loathe Nader and see no real alternatives largely due to our embedded two party system. But we keep on keepin’ on – justice and mercy must be fought for since those seeking to end both are stronger than we, have more money than we, and will take over at any moment if we don’t protest. To quote Dov Chaim Beliak of “Jews on First” – we have to speak up or they’ll think we don’t mind. We DO mind, and we will NOT BACK DOWN. » Posted By choicelady On December 4, 2010 @ 11:49 pm Khirad – you are entirely correct. I lived in Tennessee for a few years, and while I was often slack jawed about the blatant racism, some of it came from Yankees who were there when I was. I lived there in 1968 when King was murdered, and watching native southern white people move bravely – and it freaking WAS brave – out of the shadows to speak against the murder and the racism was very heartening. People are people. My own aunt used the N word regularly – wife of a doctor. She was anti-Semitic, racist, well educated, privileged, and still… I used to drive around back roads in the foothills of the Smokies and you’d find Black and white families living side by side. In South Carolina, with all its problems, Charleston faces its slave past and promotes its Black heritage vigorously. So yes – calling out racism without insisting that all Southerners are bigots and horrible people is important. Honoring the human worth of all sometimes is not easy – it’s SO simple to fall into stereotypes! There was a letter in a Virginia paper decrying the presence of Latino immigrants who, the writer said, “are drunk, speed along our back roads throwing bottles and trash all over, are loud, are shiftless and lazy, leer at our women, and act like animals.” I REALLY hope that was a joke because that’s the Yankee stereotype of “poor white trash” which always means Southern, period. It never ends, does it? » Posted By choicelady On December 4, 2010 @ 4:18 pm bito – I did indeed! I am all for it. We need a functioning government, and if this is how to get it done, so be it. CA “boasts” Congressman Issa, inventor of the car alarm, who sees his job as combing through every action of the past two years to find some way to impeach Obama. I think that the President, as a Constitutional scholar, will never make a mis-step that will allow that to happen. He knows the limits of the EOs – Bush did NOT – so he will work within the bounds of the law. But I hope he does it and does it vigorously and well. We cannot afford to slide backwards into either a full blown depression OR a loss of democratic process. That’s where they want to take us. He cannot let it happen. » Posted By choicelady On December 4, 2010 @ 4:06 pm Whaddya know, boomer – Boehner reminds me of my mother who had the same problems. Liberal though she was, the older she got and the more she drank, the meaner and more uncompassionate she became. So yeah – I see her in Boehner’s eyes. She taught me compassion – and then became angry when I practiced what she’d preached. I’m with you – instant, free therapy when you see Boehner and can pin down the link to one’s own past! Think of the bucks we’ve saved! I stand with you in reaching out to people in need. I DO give money to panhandlers and really don’t care if they spend it on booze. Back in NY one guy took my money and said, “Oh good – I can get some brandy!” When I snorted, he said, “Lady you do NOT know what it’s like out here in the cold and snow. It’s the only way I get warm.” I damned near cried and wished him well. He was right – there but for the luck – sheer luck – of being born to reasonably financially secure parents go I. We have pinched a Jesuit statement on our obligations. I love it first for what it is and second because it IS Jesuit but now also adopted by United Methodist Women. The pedigree alone compels me. It’s “The Two Feet of a Christian” – one is for Charity, what we do as individuals to put a bandage on the wound and keep that personal contact, and the second is Justice that seeks to end the cause of the wounds. No Christian can walk without both feet. (No person of compassion, never mind religion.) What we on the Planet, religious, faithful, or no, do every day is find that balance, work for those two ends. Charity changes nothing of the origins, but without charity (compassion directly given) we cannot stop the problems. The Religious Right has stopped at some, usually small, charity. Justice? They don’t believe in it. That makes me both sad AND furious! But hey everyone – not to worry. Two trucks drove by me today, not once but twice, with signs on the side telling us on the street that ALL IS WELL. Why? Because on May 21, 2011, Jesus is coming BACK. That’s the day folks! You heard it here first. (Howeverm I’m wondering what they’re gonna do on the 22nd.) But let’s suppose they’re right – I still think the likelihood is the Jesus is not gonna be too happy with THEM. What I wonder though is what happened to the “essential” predicates – the Rapture, the Tribulation, and Armageddon? I have not noticed anyone being whisked off the planet up to Heaven, the Tribulation is merely annoying compared to what is “promised”, and Armageddon – well, I hope we can avoid that entirely. On the UP side – if they’re right this WOULD be a good time to buy whatever you’ve needed on credit, especially if it’s “No money until 2012.” One needs to look to the UP side of all this. » Posted By choicelady On December 4, 2010 @ 4:01 pm Dear Marion – I am guessing we’re about the same age. Everything you remember I remember, too> My folks were not historical Dems but became Dems during the Depression – though my Dad’s family remained Reep and still think Nixon and Reagan were demi-gods. It’s why I have nothing to do with them. I get to where you are often. What motivates me is that I am so lucky to have a base I actually mobilize to do good stuff. They also are our age or even older – I have one kick-butt activist who is 87. Where I fall apart IS the party – we are non-partisan, but obviously we have problems with policies that emanate from people who want to soak the poor. When I see progressives and Dems snarking at Obama or at me, for that matter, I really want to give up. I detest Madam Pontificator over at the Dark Side – she has been the most prominent factor in shifting not just the ideas but the atmosphere toward our president, toward democracy, toward America. Now both left and right engage in rampant bullying. It serves no one well. I am a bad prognosticator but do think out of this will come something new and, with any luck, better. Last night’s vote on extending middle class cuts ONLY got absolutely NO play in HP or my morning paper. Instead there were stories about Obama’s “caving” on tax cut extensions for the uber rich. Oh? Are we thinking Pelosi led this victory without him???? Now for the Senate – and immediately after the House vote, Harry Reid “manned up” and insisted they’d vote tomorrow on both cloture and the House cuts. Let’s see if he goes to the cots – because if he DOES, the GOP will cave. They did it the last time. Let’s see what ideas he has for getting this to an up or down vote. With any luck at all, he will succeed. Debbie Stabenow from MI indicated “something was up” over in the Senate – and she looked VERY happy. And the Financial Responsibility Commission – aka screw the poor commission – LOST today! They freaking LOST!!!!! Something new is in the air, and I think it’s courage and unity. Dems being Dems. Next year with Boehner head of the House (until 5 pm when he buys for the house) we will, I believe, watch Obama use regulatory powers like never before. If he resorts to signing statements as Bush did – I no longer give a damn if what he’s getting is good for Americans. But what we – and few of us are “moderates” here – can do to rope and hog tie the arrogance of ego on the left – I do not know. My organization is fighting battles left and right against our own allies, all over scarce resources, power, empire building, etc., and it’s damned discouraging. But step by step I think I sense change again, and for the better. Things are suddenly starting to percolate for the good. Maybe, just maybe, this election scared the peewadden out of the Left that does something other than just blog at HP. So I’ve pretty much given up on HP and its ilk, but maybe it’s premature to give up on politics. This election might have been the wake up call we – or our allies – needed? We shall see. But Marion – please don’t give up on us? We would not be the same without you. Stick around – this just is getting interesting! We love you – don’t go? » Posted By choicelady On December 3, 2010 @ 4:50 pm Tell President Obama to Pick Up His Sledge Hammer Oh good grief – I TRIED to make a donation, and when I’d put in all the correct info it informed me I had to have a valid credit card number and expiration date, all of which was entered. Does anyone think such glitches (which are too frequent on progressive sites) would EVER happen on RW sites? Nooooo. In the last year at least five of my inteded donations never got made because of such things. I am just sick over the vote in the Senate – even FEINGOLD voted against cloture on the middle class only cuts. WHY??? I cannot see how Obama can govern administratively when Congressional Dems are so screwed UP. Webb, Lieberman (well, OK), Nelson, Feingold – what WERE they thinking? So don’t vote for the bill for whatever “moral” reason you have but quit undermining the SYSTEM. Disgusting. I agree that Obama is for the future. I do NOT see him as wimpy but as working with what democracy offers – and it’s messy, demands compromise, and unless he wants to pull a Bush and govern via Executive Orders and other highly debateable strategies, I can’t see what else he can do. EOs are horrible – in Ohio the EO permitting home health workers to unionize that Strickland signed will be immediately cancelled by Kasich even though contracts have been signed. The “sanctity” of the contract means nothing when it comes to ordinary people. If you have not figured out by now that the movement in America is toward capitalism with a totalitarian government, do take note. The Chinese model is becoming ubiquitous. It used to be believed that only democracy supported capitalism, but The Family figured out it was not true. Since they don’t want the government controlling business, even letting capitalists keep the money, it’s not fascism per se. It’s a new form of control over working people while unfettering capital to do whatever the hell it wants. The few will reap the rewards AND keep the governing class as its servant – with perks. The rest of us will be docile and serve both masters while shutting up and rolling over. Resembles pre-WW II Japan in many ways. Now there’s a model to live for. Bah! » Posted By choicelady On December 4, 2010 @ 12:56 pm But of course! » Posted By choicelady On December 2, 2010 @ 7:38 pm Oh I hope this works!!! It’s stupid, but small things can make a world of difference. And all things NOT requiring surgery or a dependence on PharMa – priceless. Do let us know if it works for you. We are rooting for your flakes! » Posted By choicelady On December 2, 2010 @ 7:34 pm Well, we KNEW that. » Posted By choicelady On December 2, 2010 @ 4:30 pm Escat- that is the constant theme of the Dark Side Over There. I also add my congrats – I am DELIGHTED you’re now getting coverage and can afford it! I think boomer said the same. There are many stories I’m getting from our members saying how grateful they are finally to have coverage. The Leftie Lady is a Loon – taking care of your own health is NOT, as Ques notes below on breathing, an immoral issue. Of course we all want single payer, but how is covering a large number of people a sin, you being one of them??? It’s NOT. If ideology trumps moral good sense, then let the ideologues squirm as they may. That IS their choice, but their imposition on you is just plain stupid. Eff ’em all. They’re what make the Left look so stupid. And the trolls? Never mind. » Posted By choicelady On December 2, 2010 @ 4:28 pm Up Against An Uncompromising GOP Brick Wall Hey boomer – GREAT work! I do mobilize people around CA (and a few hangers on who’ve moved to other states) to do this regularly. Since they are largely people of faith, I ask them to mention that. It still has weight with politicos if not with other progressives. I’d like to suggest using the FAX since mailed letters can and do languish in the Capitol mailroom being scanned for anthrax etc. and can be delayed for WEEKS sometimes. The FAX also bypasses the cranky legislators who take email from ONLY their constituents. They cannot block the FAX by ZIP. It was one of Obama’s mantras that he cannot do things alone. He actually practices democracy – leaves legislation to Congress, legal decisions to the legal process. So it IS up to us to raise our voices. Democracy is messy, slow, and demands constant engagement. What I read and hear from HP bloggers etc. are the whinings of people who never wrote, called, sent a FAX, did an email to anyone about anything. Thank you boomer1949 – you’ve raised your voice for democracy. Do let us know if Brown has the civility to reply – even a form letter – or whether he thinks if you’re not a constituent, you don’t deserve an iota of his attention. The results will be illuminating. Stand UP for democracy in general and policies in specific. It’s the only way we make change. Boomer set the standard for us all! » Posted By choicelady On December 2, 2010 @ 8:17 am The Rewriting of History–The States’ Rights Fable. Can’t reply below, but I did want to note that one book I’ve just skimmed so far, “The Beijing Consensus” notes that a good number of developing nations are following the Chinese capitalist model of totalitarian government and free market investment. That is supposed NOT to happen – democracy is supposed to be the best means to get the freedom and creativity capitalism requires. And yet – is that not what’s being pushed here, too? Totalitarian central government designed for ONLY the promotion of the investment class? Is that not the GOP preference? And is this NOT the scariest scenario we could envison? It’s not precisely fascism, though it certainly parallels it, but it’s a rather new “brand” of central control. And it curdles my blood watching the wrangling going on to assure the pre-eminance of the investing/consuming class over the rest of us. I’d like to die a free woman living in a blooming and open democracy. Not sure I’ll make it. » Posted By choicelady On December 1, 2010 @ 9:57 pm And is this NOT the perspective of the top 1% today? Kes I think you are definitely on to something about caste in the South (first book on race I ever read was the classic “Caste and class in the South”) but was that enough to go to war? I guess they drafted so there really wasn’t much choice if you wanted to keep your meager holding, but I can’t see the energy and support as being real, not even to feel superior. AFTER the Civil War, yes – then free people of color began to do well, and that was a definite economic and political threat to disenfranchised whites. But wow – we have done a piss poor job over the past 145 years telling the truth, even in the North. So the romanticism of what in fact was a disaster for Southerners has been allowed to bloom and grow, flourish and fester. And now everybody’s a good ol’ boy – even people in IOWA have southern accents – all based on lies of our past. Want to know a good joke? The one place you can learn really eye-popping information on racial settlement patterns after the War is an interactive map in, of all places, the Gene Autry Museum in Griffith Park in LA. That uber right wing phony cowboy left money for self aggrandizement and tributes to the Hollywood cowboy, and some decent curator did it up right – it’s astonishing to see how many US counties were settled by non-European people. Again – otherwise lost information. People in the Great Plains will puke when they see this – the extent of non-white settlement is amazing. And yes – was it you kes or boomer who said, those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. By pretending we’re something we’re not, we keep on being less than we could be. » Posted By choicelady On December 1, 2010 @ 9:48 pm Oh PLEASE, Q – tell me that photo of Mz. Sarah is photoshopped. PLEASE! That’s mind numbing. » Posted By choicelady On December 1, 2010 @ 9:36 pm I know, I know, bito – we freaking liberals just stir the pot, don’t we? Well now you’ve done a bit o’ stirring your own self. These interviews are mind boggling. The only problem is – who beyond us and other (cough) liberals will ever see them? With all that is emerging about TheoPalinism (Leah Burton’s first book, now out of print) and the morass that was the Confederacy, and all that we know about C Street and the cabal that unites all these threads in a gnarly attempt to take over America, WHY IS NO ONE BUT US LISTENING????? How do we get this stuff out? I sent an email to Rachel (yeah, sure – she reads ’em, uh-huh) and have huffed and puffed to various media outlets that still speak to me, but nothing. Absolutely NOTHING. We need a good PR effort, and I don’t even know where to start. All I do know is that I’ve learned more on these pages than I ever dreamed possible, that what we know collectively is amazing, and I keep hoping the word will get out. We need to keep on keeping on. People have got to wake up, and that includes disaffected liberals over at the Dark Side who apparently don’t read or think any more deeply than their RW counterparts. It’s getting hard seeing all the Planet brings to light just sit here, but we do all need to keep writing, talking, debating, discussing – someday there will be a critical mass, and then perhaps sense will reign again. If it ever did. » Posted By choicelady On December 1, 2010 @ 9:35 pm bito and kes – thank you SO much for not just this solid synopsis but for the resource materials. As a trained historian (only progressives may try this at home) I’m all too familiar with revisionist history that serves a political end. Loewen does us a huge service in establishing, through careful documentation, that the South had one goal – preserving the human property of its Black slaves. His work is extraordinarily important in ending the mythology, and given the prevalence of same as a GROWING issue for the RW, especially the religious right, it is imperative that his findings be aired. I think I’ve mentioned historian Stephani McCurry’s “Confederate Reckoning” that strips apart the fiction of the gentlemanly nature of the Confederacy. It was a government that pillaged its own – the poor whites, both soldiers and their families, and thought nothing of exploiting the women who stayed behind to eke a hardscrabble life from their small farms. Merchants routinely gouged them on purchase prices, exploited them on crop sales, and generally abused them while their husbands were gone. When the soliders themselves were abandoned by their commanding officers and left to die, it was not unknown for them to receive help from escaping slaves. This, like what Loewen has discovered, fleshes out the REAL Confederacy, the REAL story. One question I can never answer from all of this is why poor whites bought into the war and then the mythology. What the HELL was in it for them? What was noble about the Confederacy as it pertained to anyone but the ruling class? Just how stupid are we human beings that we will trumpet loyalty to a movement that fell so far short of honor or even basic utility for its own people? Historical revisionism has a marvelous role to play – IF it is not based on a tissue of lies but in fact excavates the truth. I once met a visitor to Slater Mill Historic Site who was hysterical that this site rejected telling the myth that Samuel Slater came over from England with the design for a spinning frame in his head. He did not. He had a rough idea of how it worked – but it was the Wilkinson brothers of Pawtucket, RI, both skilled mechanics, who figured it out in design,engineering, and construction. Now isn’t that a GREAT story? Talk about your Yankee ingenuity! But noooo. This woman, an American not a Brit, wanted the LIE and said she didn’t CARE if it was not true. The lie was better. Huh? I wonder if any of this, Loewen or McCurry or any damned thing, will cause people to stop putting on airs about a past and a cause that betrayed them. I hope over time things will change and people will give up the lie. I’m not holding my breath. » Posted By choicelady On December 1, 2010 @ 4:06 pm Hi- Indeed. Will call soon, down with some creepy flu thing but will try to call tomorrow or even later today. Thank you! » Posted By choicelady On December 1, 2010 @ 4:12 pm Q – must you be SO successful???? » Posted By choicelady On December 1, 2010 @ 9:58 am He’s a natural born leader! If he decides to start a new religion, I bet he’d make a success of it! » Posted By choicelady On November 30, 2010 @ 9:21 pm Hey Patsy – I know a little about them, and they’re beginning a good site, but they still tend toward the “obvious” such as Frank Schaeffer who is NOT progressive on key issues. He’s also egomaniacal. That said, I’m just happy someone other than MY organization calls itself “left” or liberal, or progressive. This could be the start of something GREAT. Taking back the truth which is that it’s a search, NOT a destination, and NO one can say they absolutely have it. The United Church of Christ has some of the BEST slogans ever, one of which is from (I am NOT making this up) Gracie Allen who said, “Don’t put a period where God only put a comma.” I was in a crowd one time with RW Christians who all were wearing shirts saying, “Jesus. Period.” I knew they were battling Gracie. It was pretty funny, though only I got the joke. There are quite a number of organizations reclaiming ground – if you Google progressive Christian you will find quite a few, though it’s a highly incomplete list since MY organization usually isn’t on it. Again – this is a start. I do believe we need to “out” the Dominionist but, more important, we need to be present for who we are. We are in sync with people who don’t believe in any religion – the issues that unite us are around justice for all, no exception, and that is the bedrock upon which we ALL stand. We need to rebuild that bridge, faith and secular people for justice, and get OVER the RW interpretations of who WE are so other people can like us again! » Posted By choicelady On November 30, 2010 @ 9:06 pm Indeed, Suein CA – damned impressive, I must say. Did you get my phone message? It was last week, not today. We just got good word on a grant, so you will be NEEDED. I will call tomorrow, Wed. so we can work things out. THANK YOU MORE THAN I CAN SAY!!!! Can’t wait to meet you! » Posted By choicelady On November 30, 2010 @ 8:55 pm LOVE that – a QVC presentation! But let’s get this linked properly – she’s the HSN gal. HSN is part of their empire while QVC is merely commercial. So far. To my infinite amusement, HSN kept people shopping ALL Christmas Day while QVC, the secular one, went off air for the holiday. Now who has better taste and standards regarding the “sanctity” of Christmas, mmmmmm? Sarah is just that – the one who wants to be seen. That doesn’t make her NOT dangerous, but it DOES mean there are others we need to watch more intently. » Posted By choicelady On November 30, 2010 @ 8:48 pm Hi SueinCA! Godsownparty is Leah Burton’s web site. She’s the author of the forthcoming book, “Palin’s America: God, Guns, and Greed”. She has a regular radio show appearance (can you “appear” on radio? Well, you know what I mean) in the northwest every couple of weeks, and hits a North Carolina NATIONAL broadcast about once a month. The calls just FLOOD in. People are beginning to grasp how rotten to the core the New Apostolic Reformation – aka Dominists – beliefs are. Every time we can, we need to point out on every blog we visit that the Tea party, Newt, et al. are Dominionists or surround themselves with same. To my knowledge, outside of the C Street people, the only politico to out himself as believing in the End Times and all it means is good ol’ Tom Delay. You cannot imagine my pleasure that he just got convicted of money laundering. He is certainly into the “Greed” part of the GGG equation. God? Not so much. Thanks for adding Leah’s link. It’s a good site, very insightful. » Posted By choicelady On November 30, 2010 @ 8:44 pm LOL!!! It’s kind of the reverse of the “Apocalypse Now” line – “Ahhh I love the smell of napalm in the morning!” I’m right with you, kes – no sulphur, thanks. In fact I did NOT recognize the lines – I pay as LITTLE attention to that as I can! Shows I need to brush up here. You sure you can’t lock in on the Dante stuff? Is it passe – or an eternal verity? Your call, of course. » Posted By choicelady On November 30, 2010 @ 2:32 pm You are quite right, AdLib. The atheists such as Harris say we mainline people “give cover” to the fundies and extremists, but we don’t. They hate us and have attacked us for decades to obliterate those who hold to the teachings, see God as a life force rather than a cranky old man who picks sides. What we have NOT done well is stand forcefully against this bastardization of Christianity – we’re too tolerant. Too “nice” if you will. You all know what happened when I spoke out – and lots of people are afraid of the RW coming after them as they have me. With good reason, I might add! But it has to be done. It MUST be done – there are fundamentals all right, but they are not visibly in practice with these hateful and power-mad people presenting themselves as the ONLY voice of Christianity. Jesus wept. » Posted By choicelady On November 30, 2010 @ 2:29 pm There are indeed some wonderful people who actually remember the message, the teaching, the morality and who are not in business for power. I LOVE your “statistics”, AdLib. Make up more! » Posted By choicelady On November 30, 2010 @ 12:14 pm They are linked to megabucks from the Scaife family to Ahmanson, and even more. They don’t need corporate capital cash – they have more than they can spend. But of course, more won’t hurt, right? They “let” that corporate money go into political ads so their family money can go to non-profit groups engaged in mind altering work and capturing the seven pillars/mountains of our society. BTW – Thomas, Alito, and Roberts all have ties to these folks. Catholics make pacts with them on the social issues never understanding that the Dominionists intend to take over and destroy Catholicism that they hate only a bit less than they hate Muslims and mainline Protestants. Talk about your pact with the divvil…!!! » Posted By choicelady On November 30, 2010 @ 12:11 pm Yeah, AdLib – isn’t that weird, how inept their vision of God is? It’s an amazing triumph of humanism in its own very odd way. And they can’t see it. In “The Family” Sharlet notes their mantra is “Jesus plus Nothing” but frankly it comes down to “The Family, never mind Jesus.” They have made themselves all powerful, and God or Jesus is only a version of the Good Housekeeping Seal of Approval for them. I hark back to the anti-abortion protester who told a bunch of us to “fuck off”. When someone said in mock horror, “That’s not very Christian” the protester said, “I’m born again. I can do anything I want.” Wow. » Posted By choicelady On November 30, 2010 @ 12:07 pm kes! How brilliant of you to have figured out the NEW New Testament! Why, darlin’, you could slide right in with all of them. Should you wish to do that, of course… » Posted By choicelady On November 30, 2010 @ 12:01 pmComments Posted By choicelady
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