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Time Out for O/T – Vol. 17

Perfect short briefing by the President and loved the veto promise!
(I will post the PB as soon as I see it posted for those that missed it)

» Posted By bito On November 21, 2011 @ 2:52 pm

That is a very good piece by Mr. Sullivan, he gets it, as were your thought KQ. Seems as David Frum also has better grip on reality than some of our fund raising “friends” on the left, but if they were realistic and didn’t stir up ‘sugar’ who would send them money?

From David Frum:

Some of the smartest and most sophisticated people I know—canny investors, erudite authors—sincerely and passionately believe that President Barack Obama has gone far beyond conventional American liberalism and is willfully and relentlessly driving the United States down the road to socialism. No counterevidence will dissuade them from this belief: not record-high corporate profits, not almost 500,000 job losses in the public sector, not the lowest tax rates since the Truman administration. It is not easy to fit this belief alongside the equally strongly held belief that the president is a pitiful, bumbling amateur, dazed and overwhelmed by a job too big for him—and yet that is done too.

» Posted By bito On November 21, 2011 @ 1:54 pm

Hey, a fella can dream, can’t he? 😉

» Posted By bito On November 21, 2011 @ 1:42 pm

From SueInCa via twitter: WTF

Former AIG Exec Sues Federal Government For $25 Billion Over Takeover

Today, however, former Chief Executive Maurice R. “Hank” Greenberg filed a $25 billion lawsuit against the federal government arguing that the takeover was unconstitutional, violating the “Fifth Amendment, which says that private property can’t be taken for ‘public use, without just compensation.'”

And this from the WSJ:

“[Starr International Co., a firm headed by Greenberg that was AIG’s largest shareholder at the time of the 2008 government rescue] seeks damages for itself and other shareholders of at least $25 billion. AIG is listed as a “nominal defendant” in the suit, which also seeks damages for the company.

“‘The Government’s actions were ostensibly designed to protect the United States economy and rescue the country’s financial system,’ the suit says. ‘Although this might be a laudable goal, as a matter of basic law, the ends could not and did not justify the unlawful means employed by the Government to achieve that goal.'”

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2011/11/21/142600494/former-aig-exec-sues-federal-government-for-25-billion-over-takeover?ft=1&f=1001&sc=tw&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Holy Mother of God, does this man love money that much? He was head of AIG at the start of AIG “creative transactions” and he belongs behind bars, not suing the country for stopping a world wide depression.

» Posted By bito On November 21, 2011 @ 1:40 pm

That is exactly my thought KQ, how many and by how much of these swings would be reduced by a transaction tax? When they have computers programmed to making millions of trades for tenths of of cent transactions of profit, what do these swings actually even mean? These computers make these transactions not based on the soundness of a company or product but on making a profit. The can buy and sell the same 100,000 shares a hundred times in a matter of seconds without any regard to what any human trader thinks or any committee does.
As you said, traders and their companies make money both selling and buying, it’s about profit not investment.

» Posted By bito On November 21, 2011 @ 12:37 pm

Well said KQ, I don’t know how many emails on petitions/ money raiser emails I have received to tell the Dems/PBO absolutely no cuts to SS/Medicare/Medicaid every time when any mention of words “reforms” comes up. We have both written about this and there are many reforms in the programs that ARE needed, would save billions and not harm the the benefits of recipients. It’s amazing some of the wasteful laws and rules that have been written into Medicare, that they have to follow, by Congress that benefit some major corporate special interests.
Reforms do not equal cuts.

» Posted By bito On November 21, 2011 @ 12:18 pm

AdLib, I sorta/kinda saw part of that, the irony of it for me was that I was watching some clips of Bill Moyers speaking on modern “journalism” at the same time and I think he was talking about this very program. I was/am disappointed in the new “Up w/ Chis Hayes” as well. Perhaps I shouldn’t be, I was really hoping that MSNBC would actually get off the dime and send some money on some production pieces, but no, just some pudnuts sitting around pontificating. It’s a weekly show, can’t they do some actual investigating? Or some actual background reporting?

We we ever see/read another I.F “Izzy” Stone again or just more Luke Russerts? Not knowing or bothering to look for any background about what they are reporting on, just read the handouts given to them by the spinners? Goes right back to that Moyers comment, doesn’t it?

“News is what people want to keep hidden. Everything else is publicity.”

“I made no claims to inside stuff. I tried to give information which could be documented, so the reader could check it for himself…. Reporters tend to be absorbed by the bureaucracies they cover; they take on the habits, attitudes, and even accents of the military or the diplomatic corps. Should a reporter resist the pressure, there are many ways to get rid of him…. But a reporter covering the whole capital on his own — particularly if he is his own employer — is immune from these pressures.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I.F._Stone#Journalistic_style

» Posted By bito On November 21, 2011 @ 11:50 am

I can’t count how many C-Span hearings I have watched where this subject of cyber-security has come up and how big a threat it is, yet what comes of it? Passing laws, that go nowhere, cutting funds to MPR, Planned Parenthood and restricting women’s reproductive health. Ya know, the important stuff.

» Posted By bito On November 21, 2011 @ 9:19 am

“Our politicians are little more than money launderers in the trafficking of power & policy.”

“News is what people want to keep hidden. Everything else is publicity.”

Bill Moyers

Bill Moyers – Dissecting the Talking Heads – Right Wing Radio July 24, 2009 (Pt 1/3)

» Posted By bito On November 21, 2011 @ 9:06 am

Ah, so that’s how he got that Nobel thingy. 🙂

» Posted By bito On November 21, 2011 @ 8:49 am

k’es, Paul Krugman had it exactly right on many points and one we have mentioned here, that of the “centrist” approach to reporting on the proposals by the committee. Like all proposals are the same-they aren’t.

Well, maybe the idea was that the parties would compromise out of fear that there would be a political price for seeming intransigent. But this could only happen if the news media were willing to point out who is really refusing to compromise. And they aren’t. If and when the supercommittee fails, virtually all news reports will be he-said, she-said, quoting Democrats who blame Republicans and vice versa without ever explaining the truth.

Oh, and let me give a special shout-out to “centrist” pundits who won’t admit that President Obama has already given them what they want. The dialogue seems to go like this. Pundit: “Why won’t the president come out for a mix of spending cuts and tax hikes?” Mr. Obama: “I support a mix of spending cuts and tax hikes.” Pundit: “Why won’t the president come out for a mix of spending cuts and tax hikes?”

You see, admitting that one side is willing to make concessions, while the other isn’t, would tarnish one’s centrist credentials. And the result is that the G.O.P. pays no price for refusing to give an inch.

Think Progress also takes a look at the intransigence of the GOP

VIDEO: Deja Vu All Over Again — GOP Intransigence On Taxes Edition


» Posted By bito On November 21, 2011 @ 8:34 am

It does seem a bit of an exaggeration to me.

» Posted By bito On November 21, 2011 @ 8:13 am

Oh, that’s a tough one, k’es!
What to be, a thug or a bully? 😆

» Posted By bito On November 20, 2011 @ 5:48 pm

Exactly, AB, that’s why I posted it because I thought it was a good chuckle. Someone sitting in mom’s basement in their fuzzy bunny slippers and tweeting drivel, not even able to put a hundred forty characters together in a coherent thought.

As you said “HI-larious!

bito

» Posted By bito On November 20, 2011 @ 4:34 pm

Em, and thank Sue, she sent it to us!
There is another one from ThinkProgress which I found interesting.

CHARTS: How A Do-Nothing Congress Can Almost Eliminate The Deficit

http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2011/08/29/306606/charts-do-nothing-deficit/

The decrease would be due to the expiration of the Bush tax cuts, the triggered spending cuts that were included in the debt ceiling deal going into effect, as well as the enactment of various policies that Congress always puts off, like the alternative minimum tax.

I have heard this stated before, but this one has charts 😉

While we are on the economy, it does look like the Joint Committee will fail and already the media is blaming it on both parties. BS! One R was on the tube again saying it’s the Dems fault because they won’t “privatize” medicare or SS. He neglected to say much about that they won’t raise revenue,just that they want/need more cuts. Well, of course cuts, but not any to the military. So be prepared it was both parties fault according to the MSM, without ever discussing the actual proposals presented by the Dems vs the R’s “read my lips-No new taxes” approach.

» Posted By bito On November 20, 2011 @ 4:13 pm

Yes it does, and I’m not going to give this person any publicity nor answer the low-life childish silliness.
I don’t think it’s anyone that has or would ever be here, they are a real RWer, just trying to start something, but I thought it was completely hilarious, that’s why I posted it
Just another slow day for a slow mind, I think . 😕

» Posted By bito On November 20, 2011 @ 3:26 pm

Should we be flattered? Our first hate tweet! 😆

@PlanetPOV U PEOPLE ARE NOTHING MORE THAN A BUNCH OF THUGS & BULLIES.PEOPLE ARE ON TO YOUR THIEF AND UNIONS ARE GOING DOWN ! #SCREWUALL

Deep thoughts and a sharp political mind at work there, eh?

Sorry, but I find this totally ridiculous. 😆 🙄

» Posted By bito On November 20, 2011 @ 2:35 pm

Sally, I found the comment left by Patsy but the video has been removed.

This video has been removed by the user.

» Posted By bito On November 19, 2011 @ 5:19 pm

#OccupyTheVotingBooth

“More than 40,000″ rally for Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker recall at the Capitol; no arrests.

Tens of thousands gathered at the Capitol Saturday in support of the ongoing effort to recall Gov. Scott Walker, the largest such rally since the historic month-long protests over collective bargaining ended in March.

Department of Administration officials estimate that 25,000 to 30,000 people filled the square, marching through the cold drizzle holding signs and chanting every possible derivation of “Recall Walker.” […]

Walker’s opponents need to collect 540,208 valid signatures by Jan. 17 to trigger an election.

More than 40,000 people rallied at the Wisconsin State Capitol to Recall Scott Walker. At the rally it was announced that in just four days, our grassroots movement had collected 105,000 signatures to Recall Scott Walker!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPD90iziih8&feature=player_embedded

More: http://thepoliticalcarnival.net/2011/11/19/more-than-40000-rally-for-wisconsin-gov-scott-walker-recall-at-the-capitol-no-arrests/

» Posted By bito On November 19, 2011 @ 3:10 pm

All good points Khirad!

» Posted By bito On November 19, 2011 @ 2:36 pm

Can’t be too careful, he may have been wanting to do some stoop labor picking crops!

German Mercedes-Benz manager arrested under Alabama’s extreme anti-immigration law

TUSCALOOSA, Ala. (AP) — A German manager with Mercedes-Benz is free after being arrested for not having a driver’s license with him under Alabama’s new law targeting illegal immigrants, authorities said Friday, in an otherwise routine case that drew the attention of Gov. Robert Bentley.

http://thepoliticalcarnival.net/2011/11/18/german-mercedes-benz-manager-arrested-under-alabamas-extreme-anti-immigration-law/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

» Posted By bito On November 19, 2011 @ 1:47 pm

Short and concise comment from Paul Krugman

Delusions Of Mobility
http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/11/18/delusions-of-mobility/

But gotta love this quote:

Greg Sargent sends us to Paul Ryan’s latest — an attempt to debunk the CBO report on income inequality. As usual, Ryan makes me think of Ezra Klein’s old line about Dick Armey: he’s a stupid person’s idea of what a smart person sounds like.

» Posted By bito On November 19, 2011 @ 11:32 am

“That’s what this election’s about”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=uVagrzjoNaQ

http://www.barackobama.com/news/entry/fl-thats-what-this-elections-about

» Posted By bito On November 19, 2011 @ 11:06 am

Something worse than bastards, Cher! You and Kalima hold them and I’ll pummel them with my stick! No more of this pacifist sh*t!

» Posted By bito On November 18, 2011 @ 6:49 pm

AB, it’s less than 0.00001% of what you do and your good works!

» Posted By bito On November 18, 2011 @ 6:23 pm

We apologize for the site going down ❗ But please believe me we work on it immediately and it is absolutely no fun for us.

Again, sorry.
bito, Kalima, Adlib and KQuark.

» Posted By bito On November 18, 2011 @ 6:07 pm

Funk and Cher, and did it even have a chance? What does this guy have, J.Edger type files on all the R’s, or are they just that short sighted? Somebody please dig up some dirt dirt on this egomaniac?

Norquist: GOP leaders promised me no new taxes

Grover Norquist, a leading anti-tax activist, says Republican leaders in both chambers have assured him that they will not agree to tax increases to reduce the deficit.

http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/193625-norquist-gop-leaders-promised-me-no-new-taxes

I agree the Toomey proposal sucks as do all the R’s proposals, but this sworn allegiance to Nordquist before and instead of the constitution is close to...___________ , I can’t find the right word.

» Posted By bito On November 18, 2011 @ 3:30 pm

B-B-B-But Obama and “his” NLRB hates Boeing, don’t they? 😉

» Posted By bito On November 18, 2011 @ 3:02 pm

The “Progress Report” today is a very good read, it sounds like tomorrow’s GOP gathering will be a good ole gay-bashing barn burner!

Vander Plaats 101: Meet The Anti-Gay Zealot Hosting A 2012 Forum Tomorrow

Vander Plaats received national and local condemnation over his group’s “Marriage Vow” for 2012 candidates, which included language:

suggesting that children were better off under slavery than they are under Obama (later removed after a national outcry)
likening homosexuality to polygamy, adultery, or polyandry
attacking gays as a public health risk
saying homosexuality is a choice
fomenting the non-existent “Sharia” threat to America
banning pornography

I think Michelle will win this one hands down, but watch out for Cain and Newtie.

http://thinkprogress.org/progress-report/vander-plaats-101-meet-the-anti-gay-zealot-hosting-a-2012-forum-tomorrow/

» Posted By bito On November 18, 2011 @ 2:56 pm

More on Newt via @Susand900 -SueInCa
And pack a lunch, this is chock-full of links and information. I wonder how people he has in his entourage to carry all this baggage?

Our Guide to the Best Coverage of Newt Gingrich and His Record

http://www.propublica.org/article/our-guide-to-the-best-coverage-of-newt-gingrich-and-his-record/single#freddie-mac

» Posted By bito On November 17, 2011 @ 12:54 pm

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