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Andrew Sullivan Officially Leaving the Right

“I cannot be part of a movement that falsely claims to have a lock on patriotism, and fascisticly denigrates the opposition as treasonous”

“I cannot be part of a movement that labels some of America “real” and other parts “communist”.

» Posted By KevenSeven On December 3, 2009 @ 7:33 pm

DAMNED IF HE DOES…. DAMNED IF HE DOESN’T

I don’t trust any deranged primativist, regardless of the pointless religious dogma they subscribe to.

But I would agree that it may not be sufficient threat to justify the effort to defeat them. That is very much an argument worth making.

» Posted By KevenSeven On December 3, 2009 @ 8:09 pm

Nellie,

The Tali is a group of deranged religious extemists, whose purpose is to drag the world back into the dark ages.

They have a solid base in a nation that actually HAS nukes, and are favored by the dizzy shit-heads that run the intelligence agency and military of that benighted craphole.

This particular breed of deranged religious asshole extremists actually brag about their interest in gaining nukes and using them. I really could give a rat’s ass as to the formal name each group takes. Until I have reason to believe that what ever group, the Tali or who the hell ever, is not inclined to sympathize with the aspirations of the other co-coreligionist deranged extremists, I consider them all threats.

Actually, I consider Christians threats too, but that is another discussion.

Recognizing the Tali as a threat does not lock you into supporting any particular policy. As I wrote about a week ago, countless things are threats. The perfectly reasonable question to ask is: does this threat rise to a particular level of action?

But it is nonsense to say that the Tali is no threat.

» Posted By KevenSeven On December 3, 2009 @ 7:02 pm

Doubly for you, bitch.

» Posted By KevenSeven On December 3, 2009 @ 6:41 pm

Disagree all you want, blu,,,,the evidence is that he chose a middle road that was going to HONK OFF the flanks and satisfy the middle….it is about GOVERNING….I defy you to show me a political calculation that would have netted MORE SUPPORT.

Go ahead. Tell me what other path he could have taken that would have, considering the slamming that either side would have given him, that would have delivered more support.

» Posted By KevenSeven On December 3, 2009 @ 6:40 pm

I am certain that he considered what course would be least damaging to his ability to govern, in other words, his popularity.

» Posted By KevenSeven On December 3, 2009 @ 5:24 pm

I am very much of two minds on this whole mess. Perhaps more.

I could dispute much of what you write. It is not true that we simply could not just get the hell out as quickly as possible. We could scuttle all the equipment and be out in about six weeks, although that is dangerous to the troops.

A number of questions need answering: how much of a risk to us would the Tali taking back Afghanistan be to the US? At a previous point a few weeks back, you were at pains to insist that there was no risk to the US. Has your thinking evolved on this point?

A perfectly cogent argument can be made that the risk/reward calculation would advise us to get out and massively improve our police skills. It would be fatuous to insist that there is no argument for speedy withdrawal.

Likewise I reject the assertion that the president in no way calculated the political implications of his decisions. That is absurd to suggest. A president simply cannot govern without some shred of popular support. One only need look at the previous occupant of the office, with his bullying, his insinuations of treason, his outrageous claims of moral supremacy, and most of all the lies, to see the lengths an executive much go to when he really cannot make an honest sale of his policies.

America would never have ratified the invasion of Iraq had the truth been presented them. Had the argument been that Saddam was a sadist and the Iraqi people would be better off without him, the American people would have said: tough shit.

Obviously Obama considered carefully the impact of this decision on his approval ratings, his leverage with Congress, and his prospects for re-election. I am perfectly happy to join in saying that these considerations did not poison his analysis and give us a crappy decision, and the belief that he is essentially a decent man and a competent executive. Hum a few bars, I’ll come in on chorus.

I gotta get to work, where I will not have a computer. See y’all this evening. Oh, and none of my comments above in any way violate the terms of use;they are they no sort of personal attack. I challenged the quality and conclusions of the argument, nothing more. Please, no weeping of bitter tears, and I direct this injunction at no particular individual. It really sucks to feel compelled to write this disclaimer. But I think I’ll save it for future use.

» Posted By KevenSeven On December 3, 2009 @ 11:20 am

Aloha oe Huffpo!

Wow. Devious fucks.

» Posted By KevenSeven On December 3, 2009 @ 9:45 pm

I just type planetpovdotcom.

Everybody smart enough to participate can figure it out.

» Posted By KevenSeven On December 3, 2009 @ 9:42 pm

We don’t need no stinking fanning.

» Posted By KevenSeven On December 3, 2009 @ 9:40 pm

A very long time, apparently.

Do try to have some fun.

» Posted By KevenSeven On December 3, 2009 @ 9:39 pm

Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!

» Posted By KevenSeven On December 3, 2009 @ 9:12 pm

Holy shit! I made the word filter!

Eat that, Agent 86!

» Posted By KevenSeven On December 3, 2009 @ 9:11 pm

I had 500 fans when they finally banned me.

I kinda got a kick out of it, if you don’t mind.

» Posted By KevenSeven On December 3, 2009 @ 8:04 pm

Sing it, sister.

» Posted By KevenSeven On December 3, 2009 @ 8:01 pm

I doubt very much that we will adopt fanning.

Too many people would be jealous of me!!!!!!!!!!

Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahhahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!

» Posted By KevenSeven On December 3, 2009 @ 7:59 pm

Give Your Views on the News

Having witnessed a bit of nursing, I gotta wonder how the hell she managed to do that.

And it would need to be a very small baby to allow itself to suffocate without thrashing around a bit, most likely enough to wake its mum.

And was there not someone sitting next to this woman?

» Posted By KevenSeven On December 2, 2009 @ 6:50 pm

Your Economy Has Been Disconnected

Recessions like this are great for the rich. What do they care? They by definition have a massive margin surplus to their needs.

Meanwhile the middle class is getting diddled, but good. A million homes will be lost, and they will be snapped up by rich opportunists who can afford to sit on them until the next healthy upward swing in the price of homes.

Just about the most fundamental possession that a family could have, and a million of us are going to lose ours.

Fucking Republicans.

» Posted By KevenSeven On December 3, 2009 @ 11:27 am

30,000 Reasons to Leave Afghanistan

What did Matthews do to gain this bit of attention?

» Posted By KevenSeven On December 2, 2009 @ 6:03 pm

Perhaps only one party would be better?

» Posted By KevenSeven On December 2, 2009 @ 6:01 pm

Is Pakistan even really a country?

Or Afghanistan?

» Posted By KevenSeven On December 2, 2009 @ 5:00 pm

Mo,

A series of assertions without any arguments or facts does not persuade me of bubkis.

» Posted By KevenSeven On December 2, 2009 @ 4:55 pm

Nellie:

I’m a puzzle.

And a pony is no horse. Horses are OK.

» Posted By KevenSeven On December 2, 2009 @ 3:16 pm

Can I come around and ride him?

Had a pony once. Meanest motherfucking animal on four legs.

» Posted By KevenSeven On December 2, 2009 @ 10:59 am

Pragmatism and naivete are opposite concepts.

I agree with you on the hegemony thingy, but that is how it is and that is how it will remain.

As for suffering, hum a few more bars, and I’ll come in on chorus. You have nothing to teach me on that score.

You may think of elected politicians as “leaders”, but I do not. I think of the electorate as the “leaders”. That is how democracy works, yes?

» Posted By KevenSeven On December 2, 2009 @ 10:49 am

Um. He is doing all those things that you demand of him. Apparently you can’t hear it because the reactionary assholes are shouting so loud.

He is only the president. He is not a conjurer. Congress will appropriate and legislate as congress will. Short of lining them up against a wall and shooting them, I am not clear on how he is going to do more.

What, should he ask for prime time once per week? How soon will it be before he has zero credibility? Real soon.

» Posted By KevenSeven On December 2, 2009 @ 10:44 am

Face it. Obama has been president for eleven months and the world is still imperfect.

Change I can believe in? I don’t think so. And I have yet to get my pony. I was promised a pony.

» Posted By KevenSeven On December 2, 2009 @ 10:18 am

So many points.

What are we doing with seven hundred bases in 70 nations (or what ever it is)? Maintaining our economic hegemony, obviously. I am surprised that you needed to ask.

Do the Afghanis really want us there? Damned if I know. I think that if the previous admin had not been criminally incompetent, then we would have long ago stabilized the nation and reduced our presence to ten or 15 thousand. But they didn’t.

As for the public option vs single payer, you may as well sit down and cry for a pony. It just was not going to happen. There is not one damned thing that Obama was going to be able to do to make it happen. What part of that is remote to you? There was no freaking way that we were going to get single payer.

Why fight a battle that you know you are going to lose and you know the loss is going to cost you, why suit up for that battle? Obama is a politician, not a miracle worker. Single payer is a compromise. That is what happens in politics. Compromise. Half of a half of a half of a loaf.

As for this whole, “there is no difference between Bush and Obama” meme, I just find it tiresome. You clearly are not looking.

Obama is not now nor has he ever been a liberal, in the actual meaning of the word. It is only in the debased political conversation that we have today, using the definitions foisted on us by the asshole reactionaries that call themselves Republicans.

I am actually offended that you insist on belittling Obama by calling him Bush’s water carrier. I really do not think that that is fair to Obama or any Democrat. Look at the assholes on the other side, then make a decision. Perhaps the Greens appeal to you?

» Posted By KevenSeven On December 2, 2009 @ 10:14 am

The difficult part? Actually believing that the Afghanis are going to get their ducks in a row.

» Posted By KevenSeven On December 2, 2009 @ 9:24 am

Unctuous? You definitely have gone cynical.

I am unsure of what the best way forward is. Afghanistan going down the rat hole would be a bad thing, but how bad? Do we care about the girls having their noses cut off for not wearing a veil?

On the flip side, even if we did stabilize Afghanistan, would not the deranged religious extremists not just find some other place to drink tea and plot against modernism?

But I do know that this is what Obama campaigned on so I don

» Posted By KevenSeven On December 2, 2009 @ 9:23 am