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The Daily Planet, Vol. 35

CL…hard to believe it was 27 years ago. I was so shocked when I read the news today. In my mind, her run wasn’t that long ago.

May she rest in peace…and yes SHE did give many woman a lot of hope.

» Posted By Abbyrose86 On March 26, 2011 @ 1:47 pm

The Daily Planet, Vol. 34

YEAH!

» Posted By Abbyrose86 On March 25, 2011 @ 2:01 pm

Sakura

Spring is a lovely season…if one actually does get spring. (sigh)

I woke up this morning to at least 6 inches of snow!

I’m so jealous!

» Posted By Abbyrose86 On March 23, 2011 @ 5:31 pm

The Daily Planet, Vol. 33

THAT video SHOULD BE required watching! IT was fabulous. I missed it yesterday.

» Posted By Abbyrose86 On March 24, 2011 @ 10:00 am

I am with you and Krugman on this. I’m so frustrated with it all.

I post a lot of the good information on my Facebook and am constantly trying to refute the lie machine in my day to day life, with the people I know. The poor kids….they ALL get stuck listening to me go off on my tangents.

» Posted By Abbyrose86 On March 24, 2011 @ 9:59 am

He most definitely had the ability to foresee the market. That is a rare trait.

But he had a vision of a perceived demand. Kudos to him! 🙂

» Posted By Abbyrose86 On March 24, 2011 @ 9:15 am

No kidding Cher. The power of this malarkey is ridiculous.

I want to bang my head against the wall, every time this meme is employed! It’s complete and utter bullhockey.

Business responds to needs in the marketplace. PERIOD. DEMAND or perceived demand causes hiring. NO one is going to hire if they don’t have the business need to do so!!! URGH! 🙂

» Posted By Abbyrose86 On March 24, 2011 @ 9:07 am

PW…You and I (as well as others) have been waging this battle on HP and here for some time. AS you said…DEMAND or perceived demand creates the need for jobs. NO customers, no business, no jobs.

Simple. YET this whole supply/side trickle down thing just won’t go away! NO matter how much evidence is presented to the contrary.

Supply side theory can be ok, if used sparingly…for a small period of time, when demand is high in an effort to balance the supply/demand curve. IT is NOT a long term sustainable policy!!!! URGH!

» Posted By Abbyrose86 On March 24, 2011 @ 9:05 am

Thanks Cher, I will watch it today.

» Posted By Abbyrose86 On March 24, 2011 @ 9:01 am

This was one of your best Cher.

The charts and data you included were fantastic.

I feel the need to say to Steven Benen…the reason, I think, that the GOP doesn’t care about the polls is that the polls are not polling THEIR base only….(the “REAL AMERICANS”) that THEY (the GOP) cares about. THEY don’t care about the opinions of the average hoi polloi American…NO, they are only interested in appeasing their base
(the uber wealthy…who in THEIR mind) are the only Americans who really count.

» Posted By Abbyrose86 On March 24, 2011 @ 8:32 am

The War Game (and how you can play at home)

2CCP, don’t give them any MORE ideas, please! 🙂

» Posted By Abbyrose86 On March 23, 2011 @ 8:12 am

The Daily Planet, Vol. 32

All I can say after perusing the daily lineup…is {SIGH} {SIGH} {SIGH}

» Posted By Abbyrose86 On March 23, 2011 @ 8:18 am

Some Not Very Strong Arguments Against Action in Libya

Excellent points Choice lady. You always do bring good points to the discussion!

» Posted By Abbyrose86 On March 23, 2011 @ 9:26 am

We Are Aiding and Abetting the Republicans

Thanks for posting that…I think.

Another {SIGH}

» Posted By Abbyrose86 On March 23, 2011 @ 8:29 am

Precisely! Good quote, very appropriate!

» Posted By Abbyrose86 On March 23, 2011 @ 8:26 am

I couldn’t agree with you both more.

» Posted By Abbyrose86 On March 22, 2011 @ 10:11 am

Great article Marion.

I really can’t find much to add. I’m in agreement with you. WE are our own worst enemy. {sigh}

» Posted By Abbyrose86 On March 22, 2011 @ 10:10 am

The Daily Planet, Vol. 30

Buddy, thanks for that link. I actually have been looking for just such an article.

I couldn’t agree more that higher education has gone down hill within the last generation. I’m often amazed at how so many managed to complete a degree program, without learning ANYTHING. Mind boggling! AND don’t even get me started on the lack of reading comprehension these days! Oh my oh my. Ideas such as nuance, syntax, subjective vs objective concepts and context seem to have gone the way of the Edsel! WHAT the heck is going on!

So many people, not just students, CAN’T really understand what they are reading. It’s mind boggling! I’m back in school, and some of my fellow students (Who are full fledged adults) are shockingly lacking in reading comprehension skills.

I think that may have something to do with higher education having become big business. Between the Colleges and Universities having to keep their enrollment up AND the student loan business. Coupled with the reason so many make the trek into academia having less to do with their desire to seek out a real vocation and a higher level of consciousness and insight,than to find a good paying job. I think all combines to ruining the concept.

I tend to find, those are artistic and possess an artistic mind, seem to be able to naturally think more abstractly and complexly than those who don’t possess such traits. At least that has been my experience. 🙂

» Posted By Abbyrose86 On March 24, 2011 @ 11:48 am

@Buddy….and that was why I mentioned that education in and of itself isn’t the only factor that determines intellect.

I know many people who I have great respect for (like you) who don’t have a formal education and ARE very very intelligent and able to think on many levels.. Hence, why I brought up the ability factor and made the argument that the ability for critical and abstract thinking may be innate.

But unfortunately, it’s hard to gauge innate talent or ability. As such as a society, we use educational credentials as a gauge. Is it always accurate? HELL no! Is it the best measure? Probably not. Unfortunately, we don’t have much else to use as a guide. I wish there was a better system. As I think that is partly why the likes of Sarah Palin and Beck, Limbaugh, etc. are able to gain such a wide audience. As they use the ‘elite and educated’ meme as a way to gain traction with the masses, who are not ‘elite’ or educated.

As you said in your earlier post, there are those who relate to that kind of message and it works.

I hope I did not offend!

I find it fascinating that you were able to turn someone around in their thinking. THAT is a great talent. The ability to influence opinion.

I’ve only been moderately successful myself in that endeavor.

Btw, when I said I found your conclusion disturbing, it was because I partly agreed with you…it IS very disturbing that group think is so persuasive.

» Posted By Abbyrose86 On March 24, 2011 @ 11:03 am

Cher, so true. Willful ignorance, I think is a huge factor. Great point.

» Posted By Abbyrose86 On March 24, 2011 @ 10:44 am

Buddy, great analysis. Thanks for providing such a thorough comment.

That completely makes sense.

» Posted By Abbyrose86 On March 24, 2011 @ 10:43 am

Buddy, I found the answer you came up with very disturbing. Group think is a problem and should not be an excuse for social behavior.

I think those who tend to just follow the crowd are THE reason we have so many problems in this world.

Mob mentality doesn’t accomplish anything. So the question then becomes, if it truly is an issue of group think dynamics..then how do we try and fix that?

However, I don’t know if I agree that it’s just group think. I think that MAY be part of it, but it’s not the totality of it. I think those who are ignorant and who have less life experience, less education and more indoctrination into a belief are more susceptible to group think and thus are easily manipulated by group dynamics.

Now I am not suggesting education or formal education, in and of itself is the only factor. Although I do think it is a variable to be considered.

Less than 24% of ALL AMERICANS have a Bachelors degree or higher. NOW add in to that not all degree programs or colleges are created equal. Neither are all elementary or high school programs of the same caliber.

In addition, let’s look at the bell curves, whether we as a society like to admit it or not, not all people are capable of critical thinking or abstract thought, and no amount of education is going to change the ABILITY of those who aren’t able to BE able.

I always like to equate intellectual ability with athletic ability or artistic ability. NOT everyone is physically ABLE to be an athlete. NOR does everyone have the ability to be an artist. AS a society, we accept and acknowledge that athletics and artistic ability are TALENTS…yet we are unwilling to acknowledge and accept that intellect is a talent as well and not all people possess the ability to be great thinkers or leaders. As such they will be followers.

So just because someone went to a school, doesn’t in and of itself make that person educated or intelligent. Same as if a person played a sport doesn’t necessarily make them an athlete.

So just looking at the statistic…with so few of the American populace even having any formal education beyond high school, and with so many NOT possessing the ability to really think, is it any wonder that so many are so easily manipulated?

The intelligent and those with knowledge have ALWAYS been able to take advantage of those who have less knowledge. Just as the strong (if they wish) have the ability to take advantage of the weak. The difference in my mind is IF they (the knowledgeable, the intelligent or the strong and powerful) chose to WANT to take advantage of those who are lessor in their abilities.

We need more responsible LEADERS and those who aren’t swayed by selfishness and power hungry motives.

Which is what I think is going on. The strong, the powerful, and the manipulative are PURPOSELY trying to manipulate and indoctrinate those who are weaker and are succeeding very well at their agenda.

» Posted By Abbyrose86 On March 24, 2011 @ 10:39 am

@Truth, that is a great question. WHY do idiots with NO education, NO credentials, such as Limbaugh and Beck, have an audience?

I don’t get it. THEY are ugly people, through and through. When I say ugly (I don’t just mean their physical appearance…although BOTH men ARE physically repulsive creatures and then when they open their mouths…oh my goodness…they delve into grotesque creatures). I don’t understand appeal of such ugliness.

» Posted By Abbyrose86 On March 24, 2011 @ 10:08 am

I don’t understand the appeal of the GOP. I truly don’t get it. They are liars, manipulators and for the most part just gross. Their ideology and message is screwball to say the least, and for the most part very little of what they espouse actually works.

I don’t get it.

» Posted By Abbyrose86 On March 24, 2011 @ 10:06 am

Bob, it’s so frustrating!

Americans are not just divided, but for the most part are just not interested nor willing to do anything to learn about the problems and thus try and fix them.

{sigh}

» Posted By Abbyrose86 On March 24, 2011 @ 10:04 am

Spring Training and a Tea Party

Choicelady

This sentence, said it all for me too. “People ask me how come I think racism is alive and well in America, and I say because white people told me so. They think I’m one of them, so they speak freely. It’s an aspect of “white privilege” I’d prefer to forego.”

I have had the exact same experiences on a regular basis. As you may remember I am from Buffalo, and have written about my experiences with just this situation.

As a lily white woman, I’ve been in many situations with others, where they assumed, because I’m a white woman, I was in agreement with their disgusting bigotry and thus they spoke very freely.

What bothered ME, was how many times, the people who made these comments were in BOARD rooms and in positions of power. It’s not just the uneducated who hold such biases.

» Posted By Abbyrose86 On March 20, 2011 @ 11:15 am

Javez what a sad experience. Thank you for sharing the story. I too, have encountered people such as that, and have had to walk away from situations such as you described and have ceased relationships with some people over such matters. It is difficult to have a friendly relationship with people if you don’t respect them or their opinions.

I personally believe, that most of the hatred directed toward Obama is because of his skin color. I base that belief on experience with people like those you encountered.

{sigh}

» Posted By Abbyrose86 On March 20, 2011 @ 11:08 am

An Immodest (Immoral) Proposal

Good point. Location is an issue, but liked your idea of CREATING such a location, which again does require money. BUT I think it makes the most sense.

» Posted By Abbyrose86 On March 20, 2011 @ 1:03 pm

2CCP…Thinking outside the box! I love it. I too, have been thinking of ideas that are outside the norm or the accepted version of how things ‘are’ or how they should be, but I have not come up with such a specific and well thought out one as this.

As with all new or very different concepts, there will be those who point to all the reasons why it ‘can’t be done’ instead of looking at how it can be done or the merits of making it happen.

I would think the biggest difficulty in such an endeavor would be finding the start up funds. After finding the money or raising the money to get things started, the rest probably wouldn’t be as difficult to create as it might seem at first glance.

I totally think you are on to something with this idea.

» Posted By Abbyrose86 On March 20, 2011 @ 11:55 am

JESUS CHRIST!

@Adonai. Loved the story. Thank you for this post.

For quite some time now, it has boggled my mind, how so many people put so much faith in a book written by MEN with an agenda!

SO many edits to the stories and so many people putting their own spin on the stories….why do so many think that book is infallible? I don’t get it.

PEOPLE told the stories in the BOOK. PEOPLE wrote the book. PEOPLE edited the book. PEOPLE interpreted the book. PEOPLE translated the book. PEOPLE…specifically MEN who were the ‘learned’ ones of the times….who were basically using the stories to CONTROL the masses and to keep power in the hands of a few.

WHY don’t the masses realize this? I can sort of understand WHY they didn’t get it, in times past, when education was very limited and most people were illiterate, but today, come on!

» Posted By Abbyrose86 On March 23, 2011 @ 9:09 am

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