Vox Populi – 08-03-2018

Vox Populi, our weekly live chat about the week’s events begins tonight at 7:00pm PDT. Hope to see you then!

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Hey PPO!

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See you then!

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Hey glenn!

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Pretty good, how about you?

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Hey PPO!

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What up Fuzzy?

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Same here in LA as in Australia, dry as a bone in CA.

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Trump is Crazy Bread.

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glenn – Send the rain FedEx!

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Hey Hareigh!

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Manafort is liver-worst.

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glenn – I keep wondering when the dam will break…seems like it’s springing lots of leaks!

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PPO – Maybe when Mueller rolls out the indictments against Trump’s family and cronies?

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glenn –

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FD – If the shoe fits right, you must indict.

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Trump’s lies are now coming at a record pace, he’s gonna blow!

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Trump kind of looks like he’s already blown up.

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So is there a Blue Wave a’ comin’ in Nov?

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Harleigh – I’m surprised the Senate race is so close in FL.

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PPO – There’s legit reasons to suspect polls after 2016 but the results of special elections keep reflecting a huge Dem advantage.

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And if Mueller drops more indictments before Nov as it seems he may, the Blue Wave may become even more massive.

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At least there’s more awareness about how the Russians are using Facebook and Twitter to sabotage voters. The publicity alone has got to hellp reduce its effectiveness.

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glenn – I was likeing Ruhle until she went politically correct and attacked Michelle Wolf for her bold comedy at the White House Press Corp’s dinner.

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PPO – Facebook is insidious. It seems to be about cat videos but it’s about seducing people into handing over their private info which FB sells for profit.

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PPO – I hope the Dem nominee in 2020 keeps pointing out that Trump tried to kill DACA as hostage taking to get his extreme ideas passed and wall funded. Just as he’s kidnapped babies and toddlers from immigrants. He is a monster, voters must always be reminded of that.

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FD – Wolf does have that strong accent but she is ruthless as a comedian, in a good way.

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glenn – Not being a purist, just recognizing who can be trusted to do the right thing and who may be someone riding the wave of The Resistence to their advantage.

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PPO – Irony or Hatch is just a self-centered ass, like McConnell, standing on principles only counts when it’s OUR candidate.

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glenn – Of course Sanders is a victim, she’s a Repub.

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glenn – A shutdown could be what hands the Senate to the Dems too. I heard but haven’t verified that Limbaugh and Hannity are urging Trump to stay strong and shut it down.

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glenn – I don’t know about Ruhle. For the most part, she seems aggressively opposed to Trump and his GOP cronies but her background is as a pro-Wall Streeter and before she got Dem religion, she was all about money. And I’ve seen her supportive of Wall Streeters that have been on her show. That said, she has also been tough on Trumpers. I don’t know how genuine tv news hosts may be, remember Ed Schultz and Arianna Huffington, both phony Progressives who were vehement Progressives when it was in fashion.

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glenn – Im thinking the same thing, the NRA always lies so why believe them when they say the NY laws are making them go broke? It’s a ploy, they’ve got millions of rubles to keep them well afloat.

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Harleigh – Those were the days! And Rachel would guest host from time to time.

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FD – I think the Butina scandal could really destry the NRA. Mueller could take it apart if he can prove they were accepting money from Russia and conspiring with them.

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PPO – Yes, Olberman went over the top at times but in his heyday, when there were NO liberal opinion show hosts on TV, it was a big deal.

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glenn – I agree that whoever on tv steps up and takes on Trump and his crime family deserve appreciation because it does risk alienating people. Just helpful to be prudent about blindly embracing a convert in the media who jumps on the bus. I like to see if their position stands the test of time and conflicts.

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Harleigh – Now, being a Nazi is actually a boon if you’re a Repub running for office. There are double digit Repubs running as Nazis and White Nationalists.

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FD – When Trump said there are good Nazis at Charlottesville, Godwin’s Law jumped off a cliff.

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FD – Just sayin’ the NRA always lies, I wouldn’t believe their claim that they’re going broke.

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Hi Jane!

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PPO – I just tried to buy some Cheetos at the market but they carded me! Damn!

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Harleigh – Trump has combined all the racism of the Civil War, the tyranny, anti-semitism and hatred behind WWII and the Russian threat of the Cold War into his current War on America.

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Hey CL! Great to see you!!!

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See what happens when you announce you’re putting out chips and dip for Vox?

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Jane – Can you pour me a glass?

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Here it is:

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CL – Okay, pomegranate martinis?

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Jane – Yes, saw a tweet from a woman in GA who was checking her registration regularly, her husband found he had been knocked off then she found she was.

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PPO – Just include the link to any graphic in your post, make sure it ends with a graphic last name like “.jpg” and it will appear!

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Jane – The sad thing is that Repubs know they are a minority so they want elections to be unfair. Voter ID, gerrymandering, Russian interference, they want every advantage they can get to undermine true democracy because they can’t win fair elections with fair representation.

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It’s also on us to GOTV and win this Nov and in 2020 so Dems have greater control in the next redistricting in 2021. Once the Repub cheating is fixed enough, they will have a very hard time getting back in the majority…especially after Trump.

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Hey Murph!

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Harleigh – When they aren’t raping and murdering, Mexicans can be very effective about election fraud.

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Jane – So true! The GOP is shrinking so 29% of voters may even be generous. Dems and indies far outnumber Repubs and as long as Russians aren’t allowed (or invited) to corrupt election results, this Nov could be a massive landslide against Trump and the GOP.

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Cheers Murph!

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Harleigh – You know how dedicated MS-13 is about voter registration.

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CL – I can only hope God’s eyeball is focused squarely on Trump…and he’s holding a bigly thunderbolt!

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Murph – Just remind them that they are only at the beginning of having Trumpcare.

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What do you think Sarah Huckabee Sanders drinks?

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Murph – It’s what they voted for. I don’t take pleasure in it. Like the military wife who was deported today, it is tragic but her husband voted for Trump. What did he think would happen?

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Jane –

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Jane – For many other Trump voters, it’s all about racial insecurity. Afraid of being a minority and feeing threatened by a multicultural America, they want reality warped back into the 1950s when whites dominated. They don’t see that the hell they’re starting to go through now is the real destruction to them.

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Murph – That’s not reality though, Trump accused most immigrants of being criminals so he did say he would deport most immigrants.

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Night glenn!

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Murph – I like that idea. The press shouldn’t have a total blackout, it should be a matter of record what goes on at the Insane Clown Posse…er…Trump rallies. But removing all those cameras and reporters and just having one pool reporter will be a gut punch to Trump and be a meaningful way for the press to stand up to his attacks.

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Seeya PPO! Have a great weekend!

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CL – Are you certain that is real? About Trump crowd members being paid people answering Craigslist ads? I’m a little suspicious, it seems way too out in the oppen to be the case but Trump is shameless.

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I’ll check it out, Murph.

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Night Jane, great to have yoou here!

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CL – That makes it more sensible then. And did you see that the venue was sparsely filled anyway?

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Murph – Yep, have known about Qanon for a while. Same insanity as Pizzagate but these morons want so desperately to believe that the people they hate politically are also evil incarnate.

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CL – Yam Man or Pumpkin Puss?

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I read a piece about why people want to believe in conspiracies. They help the emotionally insecure see a framework that simplifies what and who are good and evil.

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And it shrinks down the complexity of the world into a bite-sized, easy to swallow explanation of how the world works.

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CL – But they work backwards from that, the Russians or Repub insiders or whoever behind spreading these conspiracies start from a position of wanting to accuse “the others” of having a conspiracy against the idiots who need to believe in such idiocy then they blow it out so big, so unbelieveable that “it must be true”.

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Murph and CL – Yes, the ultimate goal of those behind Qanon and such is to instill fear and threat into the ignorant. The ignorant need to believe it though to “know what’s really going on in the world” when reality doesn’t make sense to them because their racist, misogynist, etc. views aren’t shared by a majority.

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Harleigh – Yep, but back then Bachmann was thrown away by the GOP for being too much of a nut and Palin tanked McCain’s chances.

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Murph – That is remarkable! I hope they get some serious attention for standing up against Trump and the destruction he’s done to the GOP and America.

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Wow, you are brilliant and deserving of the loyalty you’ve earned from thise you’ve helped. I hate though that you need such protection from such truly evil creures.

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creatures.

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Harleigh – At least Repubs could have gotten on board with impeaching Palin and Bachmann.

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CL – Who woulda thunk that the problem for Bachmann and Palin was that they weren’t insane enough to win the Repub nom and presidency? Well, we can’t ignore Russia and Comey making that happen though.

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Murph – But like other rleigious folks, they are willing to overlook his horribleness if it means their agenda could be helped. The main Baptist churches are very much pro-Trump.

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CL – That is good news, I hope his sentances don’t run concurrently either.

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So who’s going to be the Dem nom in 2020?

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Harleigh – Exactly, because extremists, religious, politically or socially, by definition need to be hypocrites because no extreme position can be fairly justified.

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CL – Yes, Dominionism isn’t legitimate spirituality because it is built around the acquisition of power and money and about seeking to oppress others. What genuine religious book does that all come from?

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CL – I had my criticisms of Holder along the way though on the whole, he did a lot of good and tried to enforce the Voting Rights Act. I’ve liked Warren but have cooled a little on her. I think someone with experience but more of an energetic fresh face could be a great opponent to old, fate, hateful Trump. Then again, I’m open to established Dems as long as they’re genuinely committed to Progressive issues for the most part. I dislike the Wall Street Dems though like Third Way and so-called “moderates” who are Wall Street woves in sheep’s clothing.

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Glad to hear, Murph! Have a great weekend!

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Harleigh – That’s hilarious!

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Murph – I can hear and feel the Corporate Dem minority beating the drums for a “moderate” Dem who can “win over” Trump voters. That we can’t “take a chance” on “left wing extremists”. This is a recipe for failure.

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Okay, everyone left without paying the bar tab…guess it’s on me tonight! Thanks to all and see you next Friday night!

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