Vox Populi – 8-12-2016

Hey! It’s the Founder of ISIS here! How’s it going Ad?

KillgoreTrout

Hey Ad, KT–how’s it going?

glenn

Hey glenn! How goes it?

KillgoreTrout

KT–Well, I’m not quite as busy as you; what with founding ISIS and all, but I have released my tax returns!

glenn

Well that’s good to hear. Yeah, my founding keeps me pretty busy these days.

KillgoreTrout

Don’t forget to pray five times a day, and when you do face trump….oops, I mean Mecca!

glenn

Hey Ad!

glenn

Hey Ad! Oh never mind, I was just being sarcastic!

KillgoreTrout

Ad–oh slurp!

glenn

Ooooo! I love those! Do you have Cherry and Grape?

KillgoreTrout

Man, Trumpo is really losing it.

KillgoreTrout

Ad–do you have Iceels too? You know, we have to call things by their correct names!

glenn

Not if you’re Trump!

KillgoreTrout

Mmmmmm!

KillgoreTrout

KT–I’m not sure trump ever had “it” to begin with. I truly am beginning to believe this whole “campaign” was revenge against President Obama’s WHC dinner speech, and now it’s just eaten trump alive!

glenn

Ad–sounds delicious. Do we slurp them or shoot them?

glenn

Ha! Good point. I can still Trump glowring at Obama after the president made fun of him!

KillgoreTrout

Trump listens to Rush, and Alex Jones and hears these wild conspiracy theories, and then the next day he uses them in his campaign.

KillgoreTrout

So…guys. Do you think trump will release his tax returns? I’m positive he will continue his “campaign”, no matter what the polls say. However, he has shocked me before, so he may again, by dropping out.

glenn

I thought about that Ad. The “cheating,” thing would really have his base riled up after he loses.

KillgoreTrout

Ad–he has to double down on the lunatic fringe; it’s all he’s got left.

glenn

Ad–what more proof do people need that he’s a fraud? Except for his rabid base, most people have already figured out that he’s a fraud. Including a lot of republicans. “Many people say” that he’s a fraud, so it must be true, right?

glenn

I had to really laugh out loud when I saw Trump say Obama was the founder of ISIS, because the way he said, he sounded like Rain Man……..Obama is founder of ISIS….the founder. he’s the founder…the founder! I could just picture Dustin Hoffman saying it, again and again while looking down at the ground!

KillgoreTrout

Did you all see that trump supporter calling the media “traitors” because they report trump’s actual words?

glenn

In all seriousness, I do believe that he is a dangerous person.

KillgoreTrout

Yeah, how dare those damend media people repeat what I say!

KillgoreTrout

KT–good analogy/comparison. All this time, I’ve been trying to figure out who trump sounds like when he repeats everything. You’re right; he sounds just like the rain man.

glenn

It cracks me up glenn.

KillgoreTrout

He talks to his “fans,” as if they were children. He really does.

KillgoreTrout

KT–yeah, it is funny. Then again, this man is running for president of the United States, and he can’t make a speech without sounding like the rain man. And that’s on a good day.

glenn

KT–That’s because he’s just a child himself, despite his chronological age.

glenn

Ad–saw some articles today that Hillary is over 300 on electoral college votes. Hope it stays that way. BTW, do you think Wikkileaks will have an “October surprise” regarding Hillary’s emails? I thought we had seen every email Hillary had ever sent or received!

glenn

He proves it almost every day Ad.

KillgoreTrout

For sure glenn.

KillgoreTrout

I don’t think wiki really has anything that do Hillary any further harm.

KillgoreTrout

KT–sometimes I think, even if they do, trump will not be able to stand Hillary having the “spotlight”, so he’ll have to come up with something more outrageous to get people talking about him again. I truly hope he keeps it up until November. As Ad says, most people will not all of a sudden decide trump is the better choice.

glenn

The word founder carries with it a strong implication of support. If Obama supports ISIS, why does he kill so many of them? Eh Donnie?

KillgoreTrout

It’s kind of exciting (in an oblique sort of way) looking forward to see what craziness Trump comes up with each day.

KillgoreTrout

Oh, it’s a real side show. It has that sort of circus freak show quality about it. come See the Lunatic…only 25cents admission! Step right up folks!

KillgoreTrout

KT–HEWITT: But he’s not sympathetic to them. He hates them; he’s trying to kill them. TRUMP: He was the found, his — the way he got out of Iraq was the founding of ISIS. HEWITT: By using the term “founder,” they’re hitting you on this again. Mistake? TRUMP: No, it’s no mistake. Everyone’s liking it. I think they’re liking it. This is from the Washington Post transcript of the Hewitt interview.

glenn

Forgot to put quotes around the transcript, but obviously it ends, with …”I think they’re liking it.”

glenn

That kills me….Everybody’s liking it! He doesn’t care at all if it’s false, he just cares if his “fans,” like it. He’s so steeped in social media.

KillgoreTrout

Priebus is sooo full of shit, but he’s got to be one of the most desperate men in America right now.

KillgoreTrout

It is a side show; and I wish the media would quit covering it as though it’s the “main event”. I’ve seen a couple of articles covering analysis of trump’s economic plan vs. Hillary’s,

glenn

He’s Baghdad Bob!

KillgoreTrout

and, of course, trump’s is a mess. We need to see more of the comparisons about the actual plans each candidate has, rather than the idiotic thing trump has said each day.

glenn

KT–yup–that’s all that counts. That his fans like it. In trump’s world, “everybody” is only the people at his rallies. No one else counts. He is in for a rude awakening to the real world in November!

glenn

KT–I think priebus is drinking a lot of Bailey’s with his morning coffee nowadays!

glenn

yeah, all they can do at this point is try to turn the interview around and on to Hillary. I love the smell of desperation in the morning!

KillgoreTrout

if he’s not, he should be!

KillgoreTrout

Ad–well, of course, the liberal media is in the tank for Hillary, and the “clinton spin machine”.

glenn

This election season is certainly unprecedented in so many ways.

KillgoreTrout

KT–and hopefully, trump’s loss will be unprecedented also.

glenn

I wonder if he’ll get 40% of the vote? I don’t think any candidate in recent history has received less than 40%.

KillgoreTrout

Ad–do you think we’ll ever hear the end of Hillary’s emails? What will it take for repubs to put it to rest?

glenn

Gotta get those horse race dollars Ad!

KillgoreTrout

Ad–I missed the Mills interview; can you tell me about it?

glenn

Ad–never mind; just googled it. However, I do remember reading that Mills did nothing wrong because she wasn’t working for the Clinton foundation; she was a volunteer, and she didn’t do it on State Dept. time; she was on either a leave of absence or a vacation.

glenn

HA!

KillgoreTrout

Ad–speaking of the foundation, though, won’t Hillary and/or Bill have to cut all ties with the foundation while she is president? And what about trump and his businesses? Aren’t presidents supposed to put their personal businesses on hold while they’re in office because of conflict of interest? Funny, I haven’t heard that question asked of either of them, have you?

glenn

Do you guys think the Donald will avoid the butterfly net long enough to debate Hillary?

KillgoreTrout

KT–maybe for one; but he’s already “working the refs” by trying to dictate who the moderators will be. So, if he doesn’t get the moderators he wants, he won’t debate.

glenn

I hope he actually does one. That’s really all it would take. Hillary will depants him, on nationwide television!

KillgoreTrout

Ad–yeah, I read a comment on one of the blogs today that said Hillary is the only presidential candidate in history who has had to show her emails.

glenn

He’d be the first, I think, to get less than 40%. It could happen, and I sure hope it does.

KillgoreTrout

KT–I truly don’t think Hillary would have to say a word in the debates. All she has to do is stand there while trump rants, and the moderators try to stop him!

glenn

KT–well there you go; it’s something trump would be the first at–to get less than 40% of the vote. That’s a good thing, isn’t it?

glenn

She certainly won’t fall for his reality TV tactics, that’s for sure. All she has to do is stick to policy discussion.

KillgoreTrout

That would be a great thing glenn. That might just allow dems to gain some seats in the house.

KillgoreTrout

Yeah, I don’t think she should answer any of his taunts. Just say, “Here is my economic plan”. I don’t think she should even address trump, just the moderators; it would drive him over the edge.

glenn

Oh, it really would. Trump hates it when he’s not the center of attention.

KillgoreTrout

When Bush’s national security advisers say someone is dangerous, they must really be dangerous.

KillgoreTrout

Hey Murph. Enjoying the Trump circus?

KillgoreTrout

Ad–exactly. The other straw man I saw today is that in Hillary’s tax returns, it shows that 97% of their charitable contributions went to the Clinton Foundation. My question is, “so what”? Why shouldn’t they support their own foundation?

glenn

The Main Streamers need to do all they can to have a horse race that closes toward the finish line…that draws readers, listeners, viewers who are the fulcrum upon which ad rates are determined. People love a horse race that’s tight.

MurphTheSurf3

I think that report is false glenn, but I don’t know for sure.

KillgoreTrout

Hey Murph!

glenn

it’s going to difficult to make this debacle look close.

KillgoreTrout

KT–it could be; I really didn’t read the article; just saw the headline. But is still doesn’t matter.

glenn

Trump is a big help though.

KillgoreTrout

oops…but IT still doesn’t matter.

glenn

Howdy all…..big storms rolled through an hour or so ago……

MurphTheSurf3

I wish we had a good thunderstorm. I love a good thunderstorm. Not tornadoes, but just a lot of lighting, thunder and hard rain and wind.

KillgoreTrout

Hillary will beat him like an orange haired step child! OK, not very PC, but still funny.

KillgoreTrout

So as trump gets more and more unhinged, what do you think the MSM is going to use to make it look like a tight race. Especially as more and more repubs leaving the sinking trumptanic.

glenn

Some news from Missouri….the State Republican Committee has quietly decided to ignore all requests from the Trump campaign…..they will be focusing all of their energy on a Senate Seat, and the State office holder elections in an effort to turn the Executive Red….

MurphTheSurf3

They’ll have all the Trump apologists on, and they’ll lie and say how well Trump is “really doing.”

KillgoreTrout

Hey P!

KillgoreTrout

Hiy’all

pinkpantheroz

KT–oh, you mean the polls are “skewed”?

glenn

Hey PPO! How goes it down under?

glenn

For sure Ad. Trump just can’t turn that crazy train around.

KillgoreTrout

It’s all a big fix, isn’t it/

pinkpantheroz

That’s what they’ll say anyway.

KillgoreTrout

Hey P, are you the real founder of ISIS?

KillgoreTrout

glenn, a bit frazzled. My Lady is having a hip replacement op next week, so it’s a bit busy here in prep.

pinkpantheroz

Murph–I think many republican state parties are doing the same thing. They are trying to hold on to their majority in the Senate, and trump isn’t helping them! Although he still leads here in GA, it’s the slimmest lead a republican has had in years, and Hillary might still take the state! Amazing!

glenn

Ouch! I wish her the best P!

KillgoreTrout

yes, KT, I’m the founder member of the Irish Society of Idiot sSvants!

pinkpantheroz

PPO–Oh dear, hope all goes well!

glenn

oh, the HIllary conspiracy theories will be flowing like water. Even more so than now.

KillgoreTrout

LOL! Can I join? I’m half Irish!

KillgoreTrout

It is my guess that Trump does not want to be President. He may not be saying it out loud but I think he has realized that being President will be really hard. Lots of stuff to read; lots of serious meetings packed with people who give advice and expect to have influence; tons of details on every promise to sort out; the very real limits of presidential power; and no easily bailout if it gets too difficult. But he still wants to emerge from the race as “a winner” as he will define it….

MurphTheSurf3

Thanks , Ad. I guess you all know that my DW is none other than Fergie1!

pinkpantheroz

Ad! LOL! That HIllary, boy she’s tough! And mean! Boo!

KillgoreTrout

Ad–Benghazi, indeed. And that crazy mother’s lawsuit against HIllary, who “murdered” her son. I’d love to see one of the 9/11 families sue gwb for “murdering” their loved ones, because he ignored the reports that Bin Laden was determined to attack the US using airplanes!

glenn

Kt, any Idiot savant is welcome!

pinkpantheroz

He needs to lose but he also needs to provide a reasonable (by which I mean unreasonable) explanation for his followers to glom onto that blames others (a rigged election, the media, fake polls, traitorous GOP, dirty Democratic tricks, the public’s fear of his truth etc.) for that loss and allows him to shift from candidate to sympathetic victim. It is what Sarah Palin did and I think it is what Trump wants to do. In his post-candidacy life he can do a “Palin”- develop a loyal following anxious to hear from their abused and cheated hero and to support him (at least for a while). While doing this he can work at rebuilding his brand name which seems to be the principal source of his income.

MurphTheSurf3

I didn’t know that P! That’s nice!

KillgoreTrout

Good to know P! I wouldn’t want to be discriminated against!

KillgoreTrout

Murph–I agree. Your last sentence is the most telling…”emerge a winner as he defines it”. The only definition that counts is trump’s, and if he loses it will because of the liberal media, and the “rigged” election.

glenn

NOW…is this a conscious strategy? Perhaps not. But conscious or not, the idea is unlikely to pan out. Palin has very few left in her fan base and Trump will likely walk the same path (only faster). He will certainly be a pariah in the GOP. He will not have a Tea Party from which to operate as Palin did. But Trump is not one for whom reality is a sound basis for decision making. So expect more of the craziness…..perhaps daily.

MurphTheSurf3

The Trump Chumps are going to go batshit when he loses.

KillgoreTrout

Murph–exactly. And, as far as I’m concerned, let him rant on. He’ll still have his base, and nothing else matters to him. I do hope he loses all of his credibility with sane people, though, and won’t be able to sell his name again to any developer!

glenn

trump is a polished con man. That’s all he’ll ever be.

KillgoreTrout

Modern medicine is very good at hip replacements these days.

KillgoreTrout

Ad and Murph–I believe that’s why a businessman should never be President. The two jobs are not the same thing. The head of a company is not the same as the head of the government. As a CEO, you get to call the shots, and if people want to keep their jobs, they do your bidding. As the repubs in Congress have shown time and time again, doing what the President wants is not necessarily what they will do. Businessmen just don’t get that!

glenn

Thanks, Ad. Sorry, I’ll be in and out today, so please bear with me.

pinkpantheroz

I think that is one of Trump’s biggest fears Ad, being called a loser.

KillgoreTrout

Ad….Trump’s pattern is to desire X and when X is out of reach, to then walk away from it making excuses as he saunters on. Consider his desire to lead the birther movement…when the push back got too hard….he dropped the whole thing claiming victory because the President released his long form birth certificate….

MurphTheSurf3

BRB. PPO, if you’re gone when I get back, please give my best wishes to your wife. Hope to chat with you soon!

glenn

I think it’s a deep psychological thing with him.

KillgoreTrout

Kt, ‘Many people are saying’ he’s a loser already! must be doing his head in!

pinkpantheroz

thankx glenn

pinkpantheroz

That could explain his suicidal actions on the stump these days, P.

KillgoreTrout

Ad, Trump is Il Doucebag!

KillgoreTrout

Ad….I think you are generally agreeing with me on this.If he cannot be president he will line up his excuse ducks in a row and pick out a new preferred outcome.

MurphTheSurf3

Ad, true, bu the problem is the amount of mileage he’s already gotten with his approach to modern politics

pinkpantheroz

Trump has crossed two distinctive lines he can’t uncross. His attacks on the Kahn family, and his veiled threat to have Hillary or future SC judges killed by 2nd amendment people. He can’t walk those back an inch.

KillgoreTrout

Ad…perhaps but I believe that he is not up to it and is not willing to do what needs to be done to really get into the game. Life as reality TV.

MurphTheSurf3

Trump seems oblivious to the fact that he’s on video and audio. Documented. For all to see who wants to see.

KillgoreTrout

KT, yes, he can’t edit thwe crap and leave it on the cutting room floor like a REAL reality show!

pinkpantheroz

The decision by the Missouri GOP is one that is spreading…..do nothing for the Trump campaign….I suspect that Trump is aware of this and knows what it will cost to gain their support…he is unwilling to weight in.

MurphTheSurf3

Exactly P.

KillgoreTrout

Ad, it won’t matter, after he’s lost. There may be a few nutbags who take it upon themselves to try to revenge his loss, in some insane way, but they be put down in pretty short order. They’ll go the way of the Bundys.

KillgoreTrout

Ah the Bridge to Nowhere!

KillgoreTrout

Ad, Trump is going to be more and more isolated but it will be done in very small stages, the frog boiling to death degree by degree..thus Reince P. shows up a rally and proclaims the “we” are gong to win….and then leaves town.

MurphTheSurf3

Who the fuck names their kid Reince?

KillgoreTrout

KT–the bridge to nowhere, indeed!

glenn

Reince twice and spit.

MurphTheSurf3

Holy Jeebus, the last name Priebus is bad enough.

KillgoreTrout

Ha! Good one Murph. Well, Trump is circling the drain!

KillgoreTrout

A Russian? That’s apparently the origin of the name, from what I could source.

glenn

Ad–I think Hillary should just ignore trump at the debates. Just talk to the moderators, and never address trump directly. It will drive him nuts!

glenn

I bet young Reince got his lunch money taken, on a regular basis.

KillgoreTrout

Kt, sure, I once found a Priebus on my willy and had to have it removed!

pinkpantheroz

KT–that’s probably why he’s a republican.

glenn

I do too glenn. she needs to just stick to policy whenever she can. It will be interesting to see who the moderators will be.

KillgoreTrout

PPO–eeewww!

glenn

Ha! That’s what I was thinking glenn! Too funny.

KillgoreTrout

Ad….I expect Hillary to do just that……and when Trump is provoked his assault will confirm the worst about him in a single flash moment.

MurphTheSurf3

Damn P! That was a close one, eh?

KillgoreTrout

Murph–how much more do we need to “confirm the worst” about trump? He is defining insanity as the “new normal” daily!

glenn

but the media will work hard to make it appear close.

KillgoreTrout

Hopefully so, Ad. But will the third party candidates also take votes from Hillary?

pinkpantheroz

Wouldn’t it be fun if Reince’s parents had picked up on the Addams Family name for their baby. Pubert. Pubert Priebus. It has a nice ring.

MurphTheSurf3

He does that all by himself, Ad. He doesn’t need any real provocation.

KillgoreTrout

PPO–that’s my question, also. I think the third party candidates may take votes from Hillary, but I think they’ll take more from trump.

glenn

It will be interesting to see the debates and how Don the Con responds to haveing his ass handed to him on a plate.

pinkpantheroz

Ad…and that lack of an organization is why “his” party in Missouri is going to ignore him.

MurphTheSurf3

Most people that will take votes away from Hillary on third party choices aren’t enough in number to allow a Trump victory. Not near enough.

KillgoreTrout

Ad–I don’t think Hillary will have to work very hard to get under trump’s skin; it doesn’t take much. And, on a national stage, and in a debate format one on one, unlike the primaries, he will just go ballistic, I hope. And, he can’t use a teleprompter to stay on script.

glenn

No doubt Ad. Like I said though, they’ll be put down in short order. I just hope there aren’t any Tim McVeighs among them. That would be very bad.

KillgoreTrout

Perhaps the Republican Party can throw him out of the party Then there is no Republican candidate.

pinkpantheroz

HIllary should bring a wind machine to the debates and just switch it on after a few minutes, and watch trumps animal flareup on live TV.

KillgoreTrout

Ad–I’m still trying to figure out how the election can be “stolen” from trump if it hasn’t happened yet. He doesn’t “own” the election; so how can it be “stolen” from him?

glenn

Oh, they’d love to at this point P. That can’t figure out a way to do it without enraging most of their base.

KillgoreTrout

well, guys n gals, I gotta head for the hills. Take care all and I’ll see you next week with an update on Fergie.

pinkpantheroz

KT–slight correction–the republicans can’t figure out a way to throw trump out of the party without enraging trump’s base, which is all the republican party has left at this point. Even if the republicans who won’t vote for trump vote third party, they are still not the republican base any more.

glenn

I think the RNC has quit giving the Trump campaign money and are concentrating on down ticket races.

KillgoreTrout

G’night PPO. Stay strong and our best to Fergie!

glenn

cheers, G!

pinkpantheroz

It’s now the TRumpian Party. The RNC is just a shell.

KillgoreTrout

Later P. Best wishes to Fergie and you.

KillgoreTrout

Do any of you think that those republicans who have left the party over trump will try to start another party? Or will the republican party try to reinvent themselves after trump’s loss?

glenn

I know I’ll have my popcorn ready!

KillgoreTrout

Ad–and, of course, if trump actually does the debates, we’ll have a live chat, right?

glenn

Well, they seemed to have ignored the results of their last post election “autopsy,” so I don’t see them paying much attention to one in the future.

KillgoreTrout

Oh, that would be a hoot!

KillgoreTrout

Mass hypnosis Ad!

KillgoreTrout

Ad–simple concepts, exactly. It’s like “Hillary is going to repeal the 2nd amendment”, which is beyond the President’s power. But then, you have to know how our government works, and trump and his supporters have no idea how it works. They just know sound bites!

glenn

I am falling sleep….have a good week.

MurphTheSurf3

what’s funny glenn is that I’ve seen Hillary say she supports the 2nd amendment, but wants tighter guncontrol laws and no more assault weapons. Trump is such a blatant liar.

KillgoreTrout

‘Nite Murph.

glenn

Later Murph!

KillgoreTrout

but they’ll ignore the results. They have to really, because if they paid attention to the results, they’d have to become democrats! Ha!

KillgoreTrout

Ad–I don’t think all of trump’s base is uneducated. I’ve seen focus groups of educated people, of course mostly white, who will vote for trump because they believe all of the BS about Hillary that the GOP has been peddling for 30 years.

glenn

Just shows ya glenn, not all educated people are smart.

KillgoreTrout

but Trump does love the poorly educated. Those that know the least, obey the best!

KillgoreTrout

KT–Yes, I’ve seen Hillary say that many times; in fact, if I remember correctly, she said that at the DNC. However, all trump and his supporters heard was Khan’s speech. I’m still trying to figure out how asking Trump if he’s read the Constitution and visited Arlington National Cemetery, is a “vicious attack.”

glenn

Well Ad, he was just being sarcastic!

KillgoreTrout

Ad–but that an’t be true–that we shouldn’t believe what trump says. After all, his “schtick” is that he “says what he means.”

glenn

Ad–I thought Obama was going to take away everyone’s guns, too.

glenn

They say he really tells it like it is! Those chumps actually believe that.

KillgoreTrout

Ad–good point.

glenn

Uninformed and misinformed for sure!

KillgoreTrout

KT–what they mean is he says what they want to.

glenn

Ad–okay, there you go. How dare you call a con on a con?

glenn

Exactly glenn. Trump is a mirror walking down a crowded avenue!

KillgoreTrout

Like Trumps ghostwriter for Art of the Deal says about Trump….”There is no there, there.

KillgoreTrout

My turn to call it a night, guys. I bet next week we’ll be talking about trump’s latest idiocy. Can’t wait to see what new “dastardly deed” Hillary and President Obama have done! G’night.

glenn

misinformed and too lazy to actually research the facts, Ad.

KillgoreTrout

Sleep well glenn.

KillgoreTrout

Ad–what KT says! Lazy and uninformed. And, yes, uneducated.

glenn

yeah, I guess it’s about closing time now. See you guys next week, that is if Hillary hasn’t started WWIII yet!

KillgoreTrout

Oh yeah, it tickles their fantasies.

KillgoreTrout

What’s funny Ad, is most if not all middle class white guys I know are not struggling at all. But they’re fired up by Trump. I think they’re xenophobes and racists.

KillgoreTrout

So does the rabid nationalism. Well, gotta go. see ya tomorrow!

KillgoreTrout