Vox Populi – 7-8-2016

Vox Populi, our weekly live chat on the week’s events begins tonight at 7:00pm PDT. Hope to see you then!

AdLib 7 days ago

Hey Beatlex!

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Don’t forget to say “Hi!” or “Trump’s in the Dumps!” when you arrive!

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Ah, Summer nights…

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Hey KT! Happy Friday!

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Hmm…not much going on this week, hard to decide…

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I’ll tell you though, you really see how much racist hatred is pent up in too many Americans when a black man is the bad guy.

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When black men are being murdered, it’s their fault that they didn’t obey cops properly. When they murder white people, they’re animals who should be put down.

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Yes, saw that! On many sites, I was on the local NBC Dallas station’s site and the aggressive racism was rampant.

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Unapologetic racism. Trump voters without a doubt!

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I have to agree and I am even surprised it was only one mentally unstable individual. Of course, it’s horrible, just as far as cause and effect goes, it seemed like there could only be so many murders of innocent white men and cops always getting off, that eventually someone would act out. I think it drove him off the edge, seeing both of thoose men murdered.

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Did you see Trump’s robotic, script-reading response? It was as inauthentic as a plastic pickle.

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Don’t worry, it will get swept under the rug once again by the Repubs and white elite who don’t want to admit racism still exists.

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Did you see the Lt Gov of Texas go full metal racist?

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Those videos back to back were pretty disturbing.

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MSNBC had a banner up all day, “BREAKING NEWS!” while they just repeated the same info over and over. I seriously am considering a false advertising suit against them…well…maybe not so seriously.

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Check this out: Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick of Texas on Friday called the protesters assembled in Dallas the night before “hypocrites” for expecting police protection from the sniper fire while they were protesting police violence. “All those protesters last night, they ran the other way expecting the men and women in blue to turn around and protect them,” Mr. Patrick told Fox News. “What hypocrites!” Mr. Patrick also blamed protesters for creating volatile situations like the one in Dallas the night before, which ended with five law enforcement officers dead and seven officers and two civilians wounded. “And I understand the First Amendment, I understand freedom of speech, and I defend it,” he said. “It is in our Constitution, it is in our soul, but you can’t go out on social media and mainstream media and everywhere else and say that the police are racist, that the police are hateful, the police are killers.” He added: “Too many in the general public who aren’t criminals but have a big mouth are creating situations like we saw last night.” http://www.nytimes.com/live/news-dallas-shooting-protest/texas-lt-gov-dan-patrick-calls-dallas-protesters-hypocrites-for-running-from-snipers-bullets/

AdLib 7 days ago

It’s like The Joker said in The Dark Knight, people only freak out when the people who aren’t expected to be killed are killed. When black people are slaughtered, that’s what happens in America. But policeman? That’s shocking. Don’t mean to make light of the murders of innocent officers, it is shocking but so should the deaths of innocent black Americans, one after another on an almost weekly basis.

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Beatlex – It is so complex, so many factors in the ongoing destabilization of American society. Racism, economic inequity, plutocracy and political corruption, poverty and poor education…but nothing is as explosive as racism.

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Probably better that the racism of Trump supporting types is out in the open. It should disgust most voters. Can you imagine the institutionalized racism that would follow if Trump was President?

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Beatlex – He looked like he was tied to a chair with a fire creeping up on him.

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KT – I do agree that the racist aspect of the War on Drugs positioned police as enemies of black people, seeing them as a race as the enemy.

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And not to mentione the militarization of police forces. In a way, this is Orwell’s 1984.

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KT – Not only that, Trump is a Better Call Saul con man and crook.

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KT – Maybe about as close as reality and America can come to 1984. Total surveillence, police state and Trump trying to be elected as Dictator In Chief.

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KT – True, I liked Saul (especially in the new series). But the con man aspect is very similar.

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Hey PPO!

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Don the Con is going down, down, down! Repubs are still trying to prevent his nomination! No one wants to be his VP except for two has-beens and no one’s attending the GOP Convention…that’s in 2 weeks! Not enough time for Trump to recover!

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Heh! Slippin Jimmy indeed!

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PPO – If only we could get Australia’s gun control here in the US, things might be able to change.

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The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun, is a robot with a bomb. All Americans should now own bombs! Go for it NRA!

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PPO – Actually, 90% of Americans want stronger gun control. This situation is solely about how corrupt our democracy is, that one organization representing the manufacturers oof tools of mass death uses money to have more power than 90% of the American people.

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KT –

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I think we now need to startup the NBUA (National Blowing Up Association) that lobbies for Americans to be able to blow up things as is their right under the 2nd Amendment.

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PPO – Black people just need to exist to give some racist cops reason to distrust them. What isn’t discussed enough is that there are some men whoo are not emotionally stable enough to be police oofficers but are out there, shooting innocent black people.

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Beatlex – I agree with KT, you can also see such nobility in the most modest people. SOme human beings are really incredible.

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KT – Here’s one thing for sure that would reduce the murder of innocent black men by cops…convict one and send him to prison. Then maybe these racists will think twice before looking at black people as expendable and nothing to worry about if they kill them.

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Hey PPO, meant to ask, what’s going on with that election over there?

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It’s been up in the air for so long!

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And what’s the possibility that this vet suffered from PTSD? The sad irony could be that the man who set this mass shooting in motion was Bush.

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PPO – Nope, not multiple killers, just the one. And automatic weapons are illegal in the US.

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Beatlex – Exactly, when racist cops watch the news and see that there is no price to pay for killing innocent plack people, why would they hold back? What have they got to lose. They probably think, “Better safe than sorry, I’ll err on the side of killing innocent black people as long as I kill the bad ones too.”

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KT – But would you agree that most Americans wouldn’t even imagine AND plan a mass killing no matter how outraged they were at these two recent murders? And most vets would never dream of it. Being in the military may have been part of the problem for someone as mentally defective as this guy.

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PPO – Interesting. I did see there has been an economic hit because of the uncertainty. Politics all around the globe seem so fragile.

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KT – That was the same killer, right?

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Beatlex – I would argue that violent images in video games, movies, etc. have nothing to do with actual violence in the real world. Best argument on that is, all of the same movies and video games Americans see are all oover the world yet only in America do we have this problem. I think the real differential is the promotion of the gun culture and with it, the culture of killing.

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KT – I don’t think it’s a war when one side has the power of authority and the courts to execute the other side and that side can only peacefully protest. There is no physical aggression coming from the BLM side so it’s not a war as much as a conflict with very unbalanced sides.

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KT – Exactly! If you simply compare this lunatic to every other mass shooting lunatic, I think the similarities show that all felt righteous in murdering who they saw as “the enemy” even though they were innocent people. He may have been black and had racial issues motivating him but in the end, his behavior was idnetical to other mass murderers.

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PPO – Right, I mentioned above that the NRA will have to change it’s BS to, “The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good robot with a bomb.”

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My point is, this does not represent a race war, it should be described as another wacked out mass murderer like the Dark Knight theater shooter and the Colombine lunatics. We have people with defective minds in this country and certain things can set them off. No way to always stop the crazies who want to shoot strangers.

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Beatlex – That’s natural but provincial nations can also become very prejudiced in the way they see other races. Look at Brexit.

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KT – I sure am hoping that the huge defeat of Trump will start a return to sanity by the Repubs, if not their extremists.

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KT – The RW WANTS a race war because then they have permission too openly advocate for and even participate in the genocide of minorities. Trump has unleashed these monsters to express their racism, if the MSM validated this concept of race war, there will be many more attacks by whites on minorities, some fatal. As it is, violence against Muslims is surging.

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KT – Yes, the Repubs shouldn’t just lose, they need to be utterly humiliated and forced to abandon following the extremist tail that wags the dog.

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KT – Oh yeah, they are drooling over it, many are actually happy that these officers were shot because they think it may get them to the race war they crave. About 30% of this country is certifiable.

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KT – I see decency in people almoost every day, even little things like helping someone out with a little thing or donating time or money to a good cause. Most people are good and prove it, IMO.

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KT – I think the racists in militias are all excited…except poor Cliven Bundy and his loser family and gang.

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Thanks for that, PPO! Have a great day and weekend!

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Poor Cliven Bundy, he and his inbred family have been itching to join in a race war and now they’re in jail and outlawed from owning firearms. Heh!

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So what do you think about Hillary and the email server stuff? Repubs are trying to keep it going but do any voters care now?

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Heh! Matt Helm! Love that belt that gets erect and becomes a sword!

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I agree. The Repubs will look exactly what they are, worthless assholes that just use their power in Congress to attack their political enemies and pay off their contributors.

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Yep, guilty pleasure, loved the Flint movies too! B Movie James Bonds, so funny!

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KT – I wonder if maybe a landslide against Trump could win Dems the House too?

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I’ve got to imagine that the Dems have a ton more oppo research on Trump they’re hanging onto for OOctober. By then, he could be buried! And what about that girl who was 13 when she claimed Trump sexually assaulted her? If that at least appears legit, that could crush him like a bug. But for selfish reasons, I want him to get the GOP nom first before that story really blows up.

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The GOP Convention, with so many legit people refusing to go and so many cheesy people appearing there, could come off like a lridiculous, ow budget Celebrity Dancing With The Stars miniseries.

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I do think the GOP convention will be like a horiffic car accident that you can’t stop watching.

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And Trump looks like he only has 2 VP choices, Newt Gingrich or Mike Pence, both hated hasbeens that don’t appeal to anyone but the Repubs already supporting Trump.

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KT – Aw, you’re not going to attend and report for PlanetPOV?!

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KT – Christie is rumored to be mostly out of the running. His polling with Repubs is bad, in NJ is bad and the Bridgegate stuff is still hanging over his head.

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What if we pay for the bulletproof vest? You’ll have to buy your own helmet though.

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And I don’t think Trump would want Christie to upstage him. “Hey, I’m the asshole in the spotlight, get outta my way!”

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Hasn’t Christie looked so spineless and disgusting for that? He’s so clueless, his slavishness to Trump has made him look like such a slimy, greedy worm.

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“Do you know anyone who has two assholes? Trump will be the only asshole here!”

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And you know what else is amazing? Look how such a huge swath of Republicans have destroyed their futures by running in the primary. Jeb! is over, Marco is over, Walker is over, Christie is over, on and on!

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KT – Trump actually looks like he’s doing a handstand and always speaking out of his ass.

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Here’s a great photo of Trump:

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Yep, K-Sick showed he has no support outside OH so he’s done!

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The judge from Pink Floyd’s The Wall. It is supposed to be an ass.

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Oh yeah, love Forbidden Planet!

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Bingo!!!

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Here’s a clip of Trump at his latest rally: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCMHmDnfD6I&t=3m18s

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Whoops, it starts too early! You can scroll up to 3:18 to see Trump.

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Actually, it starts at the right point if you click on the link.

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Evil is contagious!

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I don’t know what will be more satisfying, seeing Romney’s family after he lost or watching Trump’s awful family when he loses?

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Beatlex – Hillary will be our next President. Unfortunately, I don’t expect her too be the most liked as President or the most successful, I really don’t know what principles she has that she’ll stand by but she does lie a bit which means the MSM will have plenty of ammunition too damage her if she does so as President. At least she can appoint decent SCOTUS judges, the most important thing she can do, whether she gets re-elected or not.

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Not even a choice for any halfway intelligent voter, Hillary can be the only choice. Only the emotionally crippled will be voting for Trump and foortunately, that’s a minority in this country.

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Damn my “o” button, still duplicating!

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KT – I agree that for the most part, Hillary will keep Obama’s policies in place. I just don’t have high expectations that once in office, she will really fight hard for big Progressive issues…but I sure want to be wrong.

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All the extra “o”s in my comments are because my “o” button on my keyboard is messed up! Do I buy a new computer just for the “o” button???

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I hope so KT, nothing would make me happier!

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Well, looks like it’s time to shut down the Vox bar for the night. Have a great weekend Beatlex!

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Cheers!

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