Vox Populi – 4-29-2016

Vox Populi, our weekly live chat about the week’s events begins tonight at 7:00pm PST, hope to see you then!

AdLib 7 days ago

Okey doke!

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Don’t forget to say “Hi!” or Trumpsplosion!” when you arrive!

AdLib 7 days ago

Hey Murph!

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What’s going on?

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I was wondering if something was up. You were asked about last week here.

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How are you feeling now?

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Sounds horrible!

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Are you over the infection?

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Your health has to come first. Damn, I assume you on anti-viruls?

AdLib 7 days ago

Hey glenn, good to see you!

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glenn – It’s not a new login, you accidentally logged in as “glen” missing the “n” so our anti-spam software did the double check. Won’t happen again. BTW, I know this only because the system notifies me when there’s a failed login.

AdLib 7 days ago

Glad to hear it was smooth getting on Vox tonight, Murph!

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Beatlex – I spent part of the day on a pro-Hillary site and found the same kind of heated rhetoric against Bernie and his supporters as I have seen on some pro-Bernie sites. As you say, it is identical in-fighting on both sides. Unfortunately, it’s to be expected and far from unusual. I do think that as usual, the hostility will subside once the GE gets going.

AdLib 7 days ago

Hey Kes! Hope all is well with you!

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glenn – Not at all, even I make mistakes on logins! And we are definitely not like Repubs because we admit them and learn from them.

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Kes – How cool!!! My small “crops would compliment yours. Have growing a variety of tomatoes, corn, beans, peas, broccoli, onions and more! Small amounts of each but love fresh veggies! And the artichokes are coming up!

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glenn – Yes, what many don’t recognize is that many of those legit Bernie supporters (excluding the Repub Trolls posing as Bernie supporters) are not Democrats, they are Independents so they may not feel any loyalty to the Dem Party. But I guarantee that there will be very few Bernie supporters not voting Dem in Nov!

AdLib 7 days ago

Everyone see how folks out here in Cali are going nuts protesting Trump. He is really hated out here, maybe 70% unfavorable? I don’t like the violence though, it does show how hatred can breed hatred.

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Murph – It is a natural syndrome that people in both parties are going through. Sometimes it resolves, sometimes it tears the party apart long term. I think Dems will patch things up but Repubs will be torn asunder for some time to come.

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Kes – Absolutely, Bernie is not someone who would assist a Trump Presidency nor is he foolish enough to think anything positive could come out of running 3rd party. He’d be seen as a saboteur to the Dem Party and would be blamed for a Trump Presidency. No way, he has power in the Dem Party now and I think he could help change it to a more overall Progressive party.

AdLib 7 days ago

BTW, by duplicating “o”s seem to have stopped! OOOOH yeah!!! Er…uh oooh.

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Kes – Nothing beats fresh tomatoes. Store tomatoes, especially supermarket, no matter how organic or on the vine they are, never have the taste and texture of fresh grown.

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Murph – I plant a lot of different things but small amounts of each in a corner garden, sounds far more impressive than it is. Still, I really enjoy it, I know how you must get so much satisfaction over farming on a much larger scale. And you’ll be at it again, just take the time to get better now so you can. More seasons will be coming!

AdLib 7 days ago

Kes – I think Hillary sure had planned to move back to the center right in the GE but Bernie’s performance in the primaries and the enthusiasm he’s built up makes that a lot harder for her to do now. I think she may get more hawkish but it will be much harder for her to move centrist oon social and economic issues. In a way, she has painted herself into a very left corner.

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Kes – I think many Repub Trolls are joining the small contingency of “Bernie or Bust” supporters in clamoring for an indie run. But they are a fraction oof Bernie supporters, he knows it would be political suicide to do so.

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glenn – Right with you. There is a little satisfaction I must admit at Trump reaping what he has sewed but in the end, violence on any side in elections is flat out wrong.

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Kes – Agreed! Bernie, along with Elizabeth Warren will be two of the most influential and powerful Senators next Congress and if Dems win back the Senate as I think they will, that will make for big things.

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glenn – Trump is so deluded to think being a chauvinist can help his campaign! 70% of women already dislike him, he’ll be at 80% by next month. Impossible to even be competitive with those numbers. What Trump and the MSM are clueless aboout is that the Trump hatefest/namecalling has worked well only with the Repub base. It can’t be replicated in a GE with voters who aren’t such hateful rubes.

AdLib 7 days ago

Kes – Yes, Hillary is on the verge of making a huge mistake. She and the DNC should not act like the new rulers to whom Bernie and his followers should bow down to, they should be smarter than that and show humility, earnestly having a conversation with Bernie supporters and indie voters on wanting to earn their support. Showing some humility now would put her in the WH with a far bigger majority than demanding loyalty from the losing side.

AdLib 7 days ago

Cool, Harleigh!

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Murph – Those ladies fascinated me. Very cool to hear that update. I think Trump could lose far bigger than we imagine when you consider all the Repub men and especially women who are coming out to say they absolutely won’t vote for him. I can’t remember this ever happening with a Repub nom, can you?

AdLib 7 days ago

glenn – What I would really like to see is Bernie using his power to force the DNC to hold open primaries nationwide. Consider that it is such an easy way to really enlarge the Dem Party while the GOP shrinks. If the Dems welcom Indies into the process, they will vest themselves in the Dem Party and whether they call themselves Dems or not (like Bernie before this run), they’ll vote for Dems. Dem Party has about 35% of voters, GOP about 25%, the rest are indies. If Bernie can wrest control away from the Dem Elite and make that kind of change in the party, Dems will start winning on a much bigger scale.

AdLib 7 days ago

Murph – Do you think this election may not only damage the GOP party internally but drive a number of Repubs to become Dems, sort of like a reversal of the Reagan Democrat thing?

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glenn – Not only that but consider that the ultimate nominees or primary winners would be elected from a majority of Dems and indies, would be widely appealing and start off with a base that Repubs alone could not beat.

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Harleigh – The Repubs know they have nothing in Benghazi, the game is to just keep the investigatioon alive to hang over her head. That’s all they’ve got and they know it.

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glenn – Don’t know the details of the FBI investigation, they are keeping it confidential, but I believe the real count is around 4 agents on the case. Sorry Repubs!

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Murph – But I would guess that a demoralizing, built-in loser as their Presidential nom will suppress overall turnout, the average voter doesn’t get excited about Senate races alone.

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glenn – True, the blindly faithful Repubs couldn’t be moved but I wonder about the reasonable people who are Repubs out there just from adopting their party from their parents oor region, the non-passionate Repubs, especially women. I wonder if they will continue to see the half-right views of Trump supporters that the pols in their party play them for fools and betray them…and recognize that Trump is part of that as well. Maybe they will see that voting Dem is a far better way to get back at them.

AdLib 7 days ago

glenn – Nope, Colin Powell used a private email address, no difference. This is plain an simple, a nothing case that goes nowhere.

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Murph – I think the investigation will wag a finger at using a private server and the dangers it posed…but it wasn’t hacked and I don’t think anything will be found to be done that was unlawful.

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Murph – I know the Repub faithful will come out but there are lots of moderate Repub voters out there and many who only come out when they are energized. I think they are in danger of losing those voters.

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glenn – I think there are multiple reasons. The primary reason is that Hillary has been accused of sharing top secret info. They have to investigate that knowing she had emails with data on a private server. Secondly, the Obama Admin can’t let this look like a coverup, especially when nothing wrong has been done so they need this investigatioon for political reasons too.

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Murph – I think the data on Hillary’s private server may have been safer since hackers have hacked into the DoD’ server.

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Murph – We have a number of moderate Repubs out here in Cali, I know some in TX, they’re out there. They aren’t very prominent or vocal, may not even admit to being Repubs but Trump can’t afford to lose any Repubs and many have already announced they won’t vote for him.

AdLib 7 days ago

Night Murph! Take care, pal!

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Murph – Actually, they are a dwindling number, the GOP is more and more the party of anarchists, racists and religious extremists. You know, a minority of Americans.

AdLib 7 days ago

So the GOP is being successful at passing only one type of law, the type that solves problems that don’t exist. Voter ID, men going intoo little girls’ bathrooms and women who get abortions and need their doctor to have admitting privileges at hospitals. Next up, a law making it legal to hunt Bigfoot!

AdLib 7 days ago

Though you’re tied up with other things, good to see you here Beatlex!

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glenn – I think the moderate Repubs out there are a minority in their party and don’t like to stand out. The RW would hammer them for doubting any of the GOP dogma and they know it. Maybe not the bravest folks out there but perhaps the ones that Dems could court and win over.

AdLib 7 days ago

PPO – Actually, Trump uses “The Wall” at every speech, it’s a gimmick now for him. He tells the morons in the audience, “We’re gonna build a wall and who’s gonna pay for it?” and they yell back, “Mexico!” It’s like watching a kiddie stage show.

AdLib 7 days ago

glenn – Yep, that Ark thing out there is just loony! The irony is that it could be destroyed by a storm or flood from Climate Change!

AdLib 7 days ago

glenn – I was mentioning the importance of humility for Hillary moving forward and I do think that could start to attract disaffected moderate Repubs. They see enough oobnoxious self-importance from Trump, humility would be a welcome antidote for them I’d guess. That’s how I mean she should court them, by coming off as fair minded even if they disagree with her. I think they probably disagree with Trump on most things too so maybe this is an opportunity?

AdLib 7 days ago

Consider this, if Trump loses yuugely to Hillary in the GE, as I am confident will be the case, and if the Senate at least goes back to Dems, how devastated will Trump be at being a yuuge loser? How devastated will the GOP be having to come to grips with the fact that their party has been taken over by lunatics who have damaged their brand? And how much will the GOP be in shreds and in a civil war as elites attack the RWs who supported Trump and hate them? The future for Dems is bright, for Repubs is a massive disaster.

AdLib 7 days ago

Night Harleigh and glenn!

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PPO – Tell folks there from The Planet not to worry, Trump’s popularity is ezaggerated by the MSM because his candidacy is printing money for them. The reality is, he has no way of winning. Not a single poll has ever shown him with the potential to beat Hillary.\

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PPO – They saw what the Feds did to the RW nutjobs who tried too rebel against the US by taking over that shack in OR. Best way to get rid of them, let them rebel then go to prison.

AdLib 7 days ago

When the GE begins, I think it will become very clear that Trump has no way to win. And imagine whoever his VP pick is will hurt him one way or another. If it’s an extremist, he’s in trouble. If it’s not, the VP will be handicapped by not being able to say he/she is principled by wanting Trump as President.

AdLib 7 days ago

G’day, PPO. Feel better and better!

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Cheers PPO!

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