Vox Populi – 11-27-2015

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pinkpantheroz

Where’s my $30.00 60″ LCDTV??

pinkpantheroz

Seee you all soon

pinkpantheroz

Just checking in to see if we have a quorum

MurphTheSurf3

It is true…Been checking in on the Co. Shooting (yep another one)…several dead, many injured.

MurphTheSurf3

CNN invited Rep. Adam Kizinger (R.-Ill.) – PP hater and proponent of “the videos” to comment in a segment this afternoon….he basically said that PP conduct revealed by the videos may have triggered someone who was mentall unstable.

MurphTheSurf3

That is them alright…..

MurphTheSurf3

And Trump, despite the widespread dismay in GOP circles about his success, is the perfect mascot for them.

MurphTheSurf3

No- they are underserving.

MurphTheSurf3

Undeserving…I am realizing that I am really tuckered out. My usual dinner for 40 plus, church services, family baskets for the needy….

MurphTheSurf3

Trump will be stopped – and I do not see his popularity growing, just holding….even as Carson fades…but Cruz is rising now…..

MurphTheSurf3

I suspect you are correct……well friend….I am falling asleep here so I am going to call it a night. …I am glad that Vox continues to flow most weeksand that you continue to make it a quality experience for our crew. WIshing you and yours the best.

MurphTheSurf3

Are you going to hang out here for a while?

MurphTheSurf3

Maybe I will stop by after a shower…..I may perk up!

MurphTheSurf3

Hey Ad–had a little trouble getting on the site tonight. What’s up with that?

glenn

Ad….and Glenn…it took me three tries to get on.

MurphTheSurf3

The site would not load.

MurphTheSurf3

Hi- I also had trouble logging in. System must be overloaded with turkey! Hi everyone!

choicelady

Hey AdLib – good to see you.

choicelady

Well – we’re here. That’s good.

choicelady

Ad–took a while to come up; then when it did come up, it said it wasn’t “live” (Vox wasn’t showing up) so I had to click to get it off the cloud or something.

glenn

Hey CL! Hey Murph, glad you came back

glenn

AdLib – yes – very nice. Had 8 homeless neighbors in. They cooked the turkey on a gas grill one found in a rich area and wheeled back here. The owner was upgrading and let him take it. GREAT turkey roast!

choicelady

AdLib – how was your T’giving?

choicelady

We had a pretty diverse group although only one partly First Nations person, but it was fun.

choicelady

CL–good on ya!

glenn

glenn – hope you had a good Thanksgiving?

choicelady

Ad–my niece lives in CA, and she posted a facebook picture of a rainbow after rain. Are you all finally getting some rain?

glenn

AdLib – sounds wonderful, and yes, what DO we call ‘significant others’ at your mother’s age?

choicelady

glenn – northern CA got a lot though not right here in Sacramento. Lots where it counts, though – around the reservoirs. That all helps. It’s going to be below freezing – mid 20s – next three nights which was NOT predicted. More rain next week.

choicelady

AdLib – Friend. Good on your Mom for picking a Superhero. Wise woman.

choicelady

How old is your mother? I have a friend in her 90s who still dates.

choicelady

CL–My t’giving was good. The previous day wasn’t so good. My mother passed away on Wed., which was also the day of what would have been my 49th wedding anniversary. Although my mother’s passing was “expected”, it was still sad and made me miss my husband more than usual. Spent most of that day crying, but got most of it out, and had a very nice t’giving with my daughter, her friends, and six kids! Being around kids always cheers me up!

glenn

Oh glenn – I am SO sorry on all counts. That’s so NOT fair and incredibly hard. I cannot imagine all the emotions you’ve been experiencing. I’m sorry that happened to you.

choicelady

AdLib – your mother is still YOUNG by today’s ideals. Good for her for keeping up a lively social life!

choicelady

He Murph – you there? I hope you had a good Thanksgiving?

choicelady

Ad–your mom sounds a lot like mine–in her younger days, at least. She had six husbands, and even had a “boyfriend” when she first went into her nursing home. More power to those old broads!

glenn

OBP – Old Broad Power!!!

choicelady

Anyone following Colorado Springs? I am blasted by this horror.

choicelady

AdLib – then she is well and truly ready for good companionship. She’s earned it!

choicelady

Thank you CL and Ad. She was 89 years old and had lived a full life, but it’s still hard to take. Not trying to put a damper on anyone’s day, but next I have to get through Christmas, because my husband passed away on Dec. 27th. Once again, I’m so thankful for my daughter, granddaughter, and my wonderful son-in-law. They always get me through these dark days.

glenn

glenn – I remember your saying your husband had died near Christmas. That does make it extra hard. I am glad you have such a good family! Our thoughts are with you.

choicelady

AdLib – I’m happy for your Mom!

choicelady

Ad–also, as women get older, there are not many “good” men left.

glenn

glenn – that’s the truth! But many men like the companionship of their peers, so it’s worth waiting for that.

choicelady

CL–thanks for your thoughts. I’ll stop with my tale of woe now.

glenn

glenn – if you can’t talk about your feelings here, then where CAN you? We care a lot about you!

choicelady

Ooops – I think we lost glenn. Is the system eating us alive?

choicelady

glenn’s back!

choicelady

Well I cannot stay long – the homeless folks socialize in the back since they get arrested if they sit in the park, but I’m hearing evidence of too MUCH good cheer out there. Not everyone handles the libations well.

choicelady

I’m back! Ad, you’re right; it does get better with time. As my granddaughter gets older, though, and is turning into such a beautiful person inside and out, it makes me so sad that he will never get to watch her grow up. He was so crazy about her and my daughter, too.

glenn

Typical GOP. Make up a lie then use it to justify murder. Three dead today – one officer, two civilians. Apparently the clinic has a ‘safe room’ for just these types of events. How dreadful. I am blasted by this.

choicelady

CL–oops–as Ad says, better get out the coffee!

glenn

They have a coffee pot out there – we have a mini kitchen set up – but it’s not sometimes enough. They promise not to drink, but…

choicelady

They are all smart and talented people from landscapers to poets, but the Demon Rum remains a factor now and then.

choicelady

CL–besides the fact that this terrorist killed and wounded so many people, I am ticked off by the headlines that came up on my news feed: “Gunman at abortion clinic”. Planned Parenthood is not an abortion clinic; it’s a woman’s health center! And these dumb-ass repubs who continue to push lies just push me over the edge. Too much death!

glenn

glenn – as one who has known three people hurt or killed at clinics, I am right there with you.

choicelady

CL–as many commenters have posted, how can you callyourself “pro-life” if you want to kill people who don’t agree with you?

glenn

AdLib – most of the 8 neither drink nor do drugs, but two who do can be a handful.

choicelady

CL–Forgive me for not remembering, but are you alone, or do you have help with your guests?

glenn

glenn – it’s in the DNA of religious fundamentalists to separate the ‘innocent’ from the ‘sinful’. What is new is the relatively recent determination that these fanatics have the RIGHT to kill prochoice people. That’s mind boggling.

choicelady

Ad–he is a terrorist, aided and abetted by trump, the gop, and fox news!

glenn

glenn – well, I’m not alone, but help? Define that, LOL!!! My husband is pretty good with them, but he doesn’t interact as much as I do.

choicelady

CL–I get separating the innocent from the sinful; but doesn’t the bible say, “Vengence is mine, saith the lord?” Somehow I remember that bible verse from childhood.

glenn

glenn – I now understand that for the zealots, the Bible, like the Constitution, is “just a piece of paper”. They seriously think their judgment prevails, and they are anointed to be able to do anything they like.

choicelady

CL–okay, “help” is defined as being there for you, so that’s good. How’s that?

glenn

AdLib – for Christians (in name only) they sure love them their tribal rules and Old Testament smiting!

choicelady

glenn – well, he participates and occasionally talks with them, but he mostly leaves cleaning up the occasional loud aftermath of holiday celebrating to me.

choicelady

AdLib – I will say the Twitter universe sees this guy as a TERRORIST. That’s a good step forward even if CNN cannot bring themselves to say it.

choicelady

CL–I don’t get that any more than you do. IOW, they’re putting themselves in god’s place, and isn’t that against what Jesus taught, too? I know, I know, we can’t apply logic or even the bible to fundies. They make up their own rules as they go along, or by whatever the voices in their head tell them. Not to mention what the hateful gop politicians we have nowadays.

glenn

…what the hateful gop politicians tell them.

glenn

glenn – they see themselves as ‘God’s little helpers’. It’s pernicious but they believe God wants them to kill the baddies.

choicelady

CL–much like “santa’s helpers” I guess. Sure wish they’d give presents instead of bullets, though.

glenn

glenn – that would require them to have hearts, wouldn’t it?

choicelady

Ad–maybe testamenterrorists?

glenn

AdLib – I call them that: Old Testamentarians. That’s to distinguish them from Jews who actually, you know, THINK about what it all means.

choicelady

CL–just goes to show how closely the brain and the heart are related. If you don’t have a brain, you don’t have a heart, and if you don’t have a heart, your brain is seriously lacking!

glenn

AdLib – nope. No white faux Christian will ever be labeled that way. Only Tim McVeigh was, and you can find few GOP who will continue to call him that.

choicelady

Ad–tha’s a good one!

glenn

AdLib – too funny!

choicelady

Jesus is just the ‘get out of free’ card they hope to play at death. If there is an ‘after’ I think they’re in for a big shock.

choicelady

CL–if there is an after, I hope they burn in it!

glenn

Folks – the noise level in the back requires attention. We don’t DARE let the neighbors get peeved and call the cops, so I need to go soothe the savage breasts among them. Glenn – I’m with you on the ‘after’ hot spot!!!

choicelady

Ad–great edit.

glenn

HAve a good remaining weekend all – hope to see you next week for a more enduring talk. Be well!

choicelady

I am back….

MurphTheSurf3

CL–goo soothe the savage beasts! Hope you are able to get some rest after the partying!

glenn

Hello Goodbye Murph – have to go!!! See you next week I hope.

choicelady

Hey Murph–did you have a nice shower?

glenn

CL….aw shucks!

MurphTheSurf3

Glenn….never got there….got a call….

MurphTheSurf3

Murph–well, I’m glad you came back. We were just talking about the terrorist attack on the PP in CO. Ad has come up with a label for them: testacultists! Very clever, our Ad!

glenn

Ad….did a quick look over….find myself agreeing with the tenor of the remarks.

MurphTheSurf3

Testacultists? Reference?

MurphTheSurf3

Ad and Murph–then we have the “responsible gun owner” in MS who shot a WaffleHouse waitress because she woldn’t let him smoke inside; and the sheriff right here in good old GA who put up a sign basically saying that anybody who doesn’t agree with him can get the hell out of his county!

glenn

Oh….OldTestaCultists….got it.

MurphTheSurf3

There is much madness afoot.

MurphTheSurf3

Ad–I know. I just don’t know where it will end. I did see that trump finally lost 15 points in the polls today. Maybe people are finally coming to their senses!

glenn

I had lunch last week with an old time GOP leader in my county who cannot stand the “new breed” in the GOP….a party built on anger, anxiety and fear that lashes out.

MurphTheSurf3

Glenn – what poll

MurphTheSurf3

OldTestaculls….I like

MurphTheSurf3

Murph–had to look it up–Quinnipiac.

glenn

Glenn…got a link…that would be fine.

MurphTheSurf3

Murph–i’s the old time gopers who are going to have to start speaking out forcefully against their hateful party members. Most of the time, the “faithful base” won’t believe a word libs say.

glenn

Ad….30 percent of the GOP votes in the primary; 30 percent of them have gone for Trump; the GOP are 30 percent of the electorate. So in a group of 100, Trump has 7 voters and Carson has 6.

MurphTheSurf3

The old timers don’t have the power.

MurphTheSurf3

Ad–I know. Of course, if we had a “liberal media”, they would be reporting that. It also gives the trump supporters the mistaken idea that they are the “majority”. Sad thing is, though, with so many states in repub control, they are majority of people who actually vote!

glenn

Ad–not sure that repubs would vote for the dem nominee, but at least they would stay home and not vote. And, once again, if the Dems come out in large numbers like they did in ’08 and ’12, then we can defeat the extremists by yuuuuge margins!

glenn

This entire story is hot stuff for media looking to meet their bottom line requirements….to make money you have to have interest so you build it however you can

MurphTheSurf3

Murph–sigh–remember when news didn’t have to be “profitable”; it was just news?

glenn

Ad–I get it. I just want these damn fascists to be defeated bigtime!

glenn

My regular reminder……the presidential race is important but if we do not retake the Senate and cut into the House majority while launching effective assaults in the states….the WH is not enough

MurphTheSurf3

Murph–agreed.

glenn

On that note, guys, I’m calling it a night. It’s been an emotional rollercoaster for me the past few days, and I’m just worn out. Always great chatting with you two. You make sense of this senseless world. Thanks, and have a wonderful weekend.

glenn

Great flurry of discussion and now I really am heading to showers….best to you both…..

MurphTheSurf3

Ad–one more comment. Even if trump isn’t the repub nominee, I’m almost positive he’s going to run as an independent. He won’t give up the spotlight and attention easily. And if, as he says, the repubs don’t treat him “fairly” IOW give him the nomination, then he doesn’t have to “honor” the contract he signed.

glenn

G’night guys!

glenn

Ad….without the Senate all the WH can do is nominate very mediocre,leaning right Justices.

MurphTheSurf3

Until next time…

MurphTheSurf3

On that hopeful note….Senate YEAH!

MurphTheSurf3