Vox Populi – 11-14-2014

Howdy!

beatlex

Talking about Exec. Orders, POTUS is about to give a speech in Brisbane. Link is:

pinkpantheroz

Howdy, Ad and Beatlex Kiss my executive order! I like it, Ad

glenn

Its live in abt 5 mins.

pinkpantheroz

Thx OZ!

beatlex

Hey PPO,

glenn

No probs, but i didn’t put that advertising bumph in!

pinkpantheroz

Hey Ad, It’s not just cold here, but damn cold! In the 20’s tonight!

glenn

Hey glenn, beatlex and all.

pinkpantheroz

EBOLA! FOLKS!

Harleigh

PPO–How is your media? Does it omit facts and outright lie to viewers like some of our media does?

glenn

Tuning in now Oz…

beatlex

evening all

sillylittleme

as opposed to ola I suppose.

Harleigh

Hey Harleigh! Sorry, you’re wrong! There is no more Ebola threat; the election is over, dontcha know?

glenn

Evening, SLM. How are you?

glenn

gleenn, our ABC is Government run, so no ads or political leanings ( yeah right!). Much less manipulation than the Murdoch and Packer driven commercial stations

pinkpantheroz

well glenn and you?

sillylittleme

aw great…. OK…uh…. BEGHAZI!!

Harleigh

BENGHAZI!!

Harleigh

Whitewaterbolsgazigate

pinkpantheroz

Harleigh–too early for Benghazi. We have to wait until Hillary says she is going to run!

glenn

Ad, yes, how quiet everything’s got all of a sudden

pinkpantheroz

over the southern border with prayer blankeys and korans.

Harleigh

PPO–That’s interesting. Do you mean to tell me you get to watch a program all the way through with no interruptions?

glenn

Why haven’t they started the Howdy Gowdy Show yet??

Harleigh

SM–I’m fine when I’m in my house, but if I have to go outside; it’s damn cold!

glenn

glenn, yes!

pinkpantheroz

What’s up up peeps?

killgoretrout

right alib, according to faux by now most of us are dead. whoa doggies, I’m typing at ghosts. lol

Harleigh

Hey, KT

pinkpantheroz

Hey KT–how are you and your mom? Staying warm?

glenn

AdLib.I believe there is one case that is in the US for treatment

beatlex

glenn ya its getting colder here too. twenties tonight and tomorrow night

sillylittleme

Obama is on stage speaking now

pinkpantheroz

Rock star reception

pinkpantheroz

hey kt nice snowstorm you got, we got bupkes

sillylittleme

Fine glenn. It’s really not too cold yet. It is for mom though. Circulation isn’t what it used to be at 85.

killgoretrout

The Ozzies gave the President a warm welcome!

beatlex

Hey SLM, did you do something with your hair or lose weight? You look a bit different tonite.

Harleigh

slm, it was gone before I got up at 9am.

killgoretrout

lol, how did you guess? both, my hair is out of control

sillylittleme

LOL

Harleigh

harleigh you recovered from the election?

sillylittleme

It’s going down to maybe 70 here tonite.

Harleigh

He’s laying it on with a trowel, but good reception

pinkpantheroz

I guess you guys saw the aussies with their heads in the sand? Pretty funny, and to the point.

killgoretrout

slm- floriduh came thru and re-elected Skeketor.

Harleigh

Ad–Yes to all of your questions.

glenn

AdLib.probably all of the above

beatlex

I think the impeachment threat is just a lot of the usual hot air.

killgoretrout

yes ad

Harleigh

Ad–What is happening with the boner’s lawsuit against POTUS?

glenn

ad – that and the kitchen sink

sillylittleme

KT, its just the usual GOP time-and-money wasting shit that they use to camoflage their lack of any action.

pinkpantheroz

nazi soshalust fashust commie dicktator!

Harleigh

pink – rather lack of ideas

sillylittleme

You missed Muslim, Harleigh!

pinkpantheroz

I wrote that in baggerese

Harleigh

SLM, that too!

pinkpantheroz

I think the GOP’s promise to actually govern is going to bite them in their tired old asses. They don’t know how to govern.

killgoretrout

PPO–IMO, the GOP won’t impeach. The threat is much more “productive” for them than the actual action.

glenn

an mooslem colonist! LMAO

Harleigh

Harleigh, isn’t that just what the radical muslims want – to colonise the world?

pinkpantheroz

I think it is a masterstroke for the President to come out swinging.The R’s will overplay their hand,as usual

beatlex

Hi everyone! Can’t stay but posted a story that the second or third law firm just quit in the Boehner impeachment fiasco.

kalima

The GOP is just a bunch of blowhards.

killgoretrout

Ad–I really don’t know if impeachment, in this particular political climate, would be a mistake. It would continue to energize their base. And, after this last election, I’m not sure anything will energize the Democratic base. What a bunch of lazy asses! (Democrats, I mean.)

glenn

That was quite a letter Ad!

killgoretrout

thanks kalima

sillylittleme

I dunno ppo…. It’s a Obama slur that makes no more sense than other bagger bullshit because they don’t known the meaning of most of the words. I hate baggers in case anyony missed that.

Harleigh

Adlib,you are a smart guy,so is the President

beatlex

Kalima, good to hear. Will the repubs ever get the message that their lawsuit has no merit?

glenn

Oops! There’s the doorbell. Have a great chat and be safe.

kalima

Is Keystone going to go through? I wonder.

killgoretrout

Ad–could be. But I don’t trust independents or Dems or minorities any more. I’m sorry to have to say that; but after this election, I’m really bummed.

glenn

BRB

pinkpantheroz

KT–Didn’t the house pass the Keystone today?

glenn

this was the lowest voter turnout in like more years than I’ve been around and we had way fewer eligible voters way back then.

Harleigh

Yeah, I think they did.

killgoretrout

harleigh – we had record numbers and still only one third of those eligible…

sillylittleme

KT–So what do you think the Senate will do? And, will POTUS approve Keystone or veto it, (if it passes the Senate, that is).

glenn

glenn just remember though that we were rid of whackdoodle Bachmann but the baggers put in like 10 more. comedy gold

Harleigh

Harleigh–you mean like hog castrater Joni Ernst?

glenn

Ad–I hope so. I don’t like some of the stories I’ve seen about what tar sands are doing in Canada. Any input on that, Beatlex?

glenn

thats a whackdoodle for sure, and the new asshole from OK replacing Coburn will erase the debt with jebus. BWAHAHAHAHA

Harleigh

Hey Murph, are you really here?

glenn

I don’t know glenn. I know Obama wants more info about the benefits and possible harms. He said that a lot of the oil will be going all over the world. It won’t really increase our supplies by any great margin.

killgoretrout

Harleigh–So jeebus is going to pay off the debt? Cool. Guess he’ll use church donations, right?

glenn

we get none of the fuel, it is a china canada deal. we take all the risks and refine it. fewr than 70 new fulltime jobs.

Harleigh

Canada, where the oil will be coming from will be under no obligation to pay for any clean up if there is a spill or major leak in the pipeline.

killgoretrout

KT–Sometimes I like our POTUS’ thoughtful and deliberate ways. And, other times, such as Keystone, I don’t. I truly believe there is enough information out there about tar sands, plus given the fact that the oil is not for the U.S. are two great reasons to veto it, IMO.

glenn

Glenn,first of all,tar is a man made product.the propper term is bitumen.Our economy in Alberta is built around it.And is important to Canada’s bottom line too.We have monied interests as you do in America,and they are winning the battle right now.Money and jobs talk,anywhere in the world.

beatlex

all true beatlex

Harleigh

Beatlex–thanks for the correction. Have you had any environmental problems with the bitumen?

glenn

glenn it is a real bigtime destroyer.

Harleigh

Ad–I hope POTUS blocks it–from your blog to Obama’s pen.

glenn

Hi All I think I am here. The site keep telling me it cannot send messages right now.

murphthesurf3

i got that message murph

Harleigh

Murph, didn’t you have that problem last week?

killgoretrout

Murph–take off the tinfoil hat. You’re getting through now. Over….

glenn

Ok it worked….apparently I have to clear cache, history, cookies, close out and then start over.

murphthesurf3

LOLOLOL glenn

Harleigh

I know that the Alberta government is spending on research to find cleaner methods of extraction.We are certainly doing more than other fossil fuel based economies.That is why it is so big that the US and China came to that agreement.The big players have to be on board

beatlex

I hope the pipeline doesn’t go thru but Obame should veto it, and let me add that Mary Landriu(?) is a big fat piece of whale shit IMHO

Harleigh

Beatlex–glad to hear Alberta is doing research. I hope you don’t think I was trying to insult you, or Canada. I was just curious as to what was happening there.

glenn

Harleigh–didn’t know they had whales in LA!

glenn

beatlex = northern mole hehehehe

Harleigh

Glenn,to answer your question,there will always be problems striking a balance between extraction and harm to the environment

beatlex

Sorry, folks, go to leave you. Just heard my younger brother passed away from a heart attack in Northern Ireland.

pinkpantheroz

she’s toast al

Harleigh

Beatlex–I agree. Anyone in Canada doing research on solar or wind power?

glenn

Oh shit PPO! So sorry to hear that.

killgoretrout

Oh shit PPO, so sorry to hear that.

killgoretrout

PPO–Oh my! So sorry to hear of your loss.

glenn

OH GEEZ ppo! that’s awful. You got my support of course

Harleigh

So sorry to hear that OZ!

beatlex

I think that the Dems are going to have to give up on the Blue Dog (mildly conservative) option. Democrat IS Liberal. Republican IS Conservative.

murphthesurf3

thanks, Kt. sudden and unexpected. so have to call my other bros and get things going. Thank you all for your support. bye.

pinkpantheroz

sorry pink, be well and safe travels if you head to the other side of the world

sillylittleme

repubelieklan = enemy

Harleigh

PPO – condolences….so sorry to hear this.

murphthesurf3

Glenn,yes,we are working on that too.That,in the end has to be the answer

beatlex

Harleigh–Yes, but I think we have met the enemy and he is us. IMO, Dems threw POTUS under the bus, and that’s why they lost!

glenn

nobody went out and voted. really lame

Harleigh

glenn – agreed, didn’t work for gore and didn’t work now

sillylittleme

When appropriate- I would like to chat about ACA part II. Let me know.

murphthesurf3

harleigh – agree too

sillylittleme

murph – what specifically

sillylittleme

Beatlex–Hopefully, both the U.S. and Canada can get something going other than oil.

glenn

Part II?

killgoretrout

Harleigh–the question is why no one voted?

glenn

Ad…I do not want to interrupt the flow….since I have been in and out trying to connect I do not want to push into a conversation.

murphthesurf3

I do health insurance all day long and am licensed in 50 states if I can help.

Harleigh

We have a problem with voter apathy here in Canada also.People seem to think that there is not much difference with the parties.Whoever is elected generally governs from the middle.You guys have it waay different!

beatlex

compromise, 15 wind turbines for every mile of pipeline.

Harleigh

SLM–the other day there was a letter in Daily Kos from a Canadian, and he enumerated all the things the POTUS has done, and wondered why Americans voted for the very people who caused the problems that POTUS fixed, and obstructed POTUS from accomplishing more. I think it was entitled something like, “You Americans don’t deserve Obama.” A great letter!

glenn

That’s not a good enough excuse ad. People have to vote, no matter how poorly candidates run their campaigns.

killgoretrout

glenn – ya I saw that

sillylittleme

SLM I read that one. it was cool.

Harleigh

kt – agree

sillylittleme

Glenn,I could have penned that,I agree with it!

beatlex

OK. Affordable Care Act. Year 2. Here in Mo. No Medicaid Expansion. I have a number of those I helped get insurance panicking now. They are certain ACA is going to get hacked. GOP for outright repeal with no replacement. Failing that, defund it piece by piece. SCOTUS. No subidies where there is no marketplace and that is us. What do you all think. ACA? A goner, a half goner, or ok.

murphthesurf3

Beatlex–ha! I thought it might have been you when I read it!

glenn

last week on bill maher, bernie sanders said he thought it was time for a progressive party

sillylittleme

Sadly true ad.

killgoretrout

BRB

glenn

hey sabreen

sillylittleme

Hey Sabreen!

killgoretrout

Hello Planeteers! I hope everyone is well.

sabreen60

it can’t be gutted since a projected 15 million will be on ACA

Harleigh

Hello Sabreen!

beatlex

Hi sabreen

Harleigh

Harleigh – take away the subsidies and it dies.

murphthesurf3

they don’t want 15M people going back to the ER for Dr visits and not paying those outrageous rates.

Harleigh

Harleigh – why not? Most are not “their” people.

murphthesurf3

murph – the ins cos would kill them

sillylittleme

Harleigh, I was reading through the comments so that you sell healthcare. I’ve been pulling my hair out during this open enrollment season. I’ve had Kaiser/Medicare since April of this year and cannot wait to ditch Kaiser.

sabreen60

If the Supreme Court gets involved again, we may be screwed.

killgoretrout

SLM – so far silence from the insurers

murphthesurf3

sabreen tomorrow starts open enrollment at healthcare.gov so you can see all offerings in your state…………………

Harleigh

Ad- using reconciliation they can defund it section by section. If the subsidies get knocked away, ACA dies in a lot of states….

murphthesurf3

Murph, I think the Republicans have shown over the last 6 years that they don’t care what hurts the American people. I believe they will do everything in their power to destroy the ACA. Even if it’s death by a thousand cuts. Those Americans who are hurt – too damn bad.

sabreen60

the SC could kill it in all 34 states on the federal exchange.

Harleigh

Sab, I agree.

murphthesurf3

can someone get me out of this alternate universe I fell into?

sillylittleme

Ad Lib. I understand that Reconciliation bills require only 51 votes and no budget matter requires presidential signature.

murphthesurf3

grab my hand slm! lol

Harleigh

There are some R’s who are talking about changing the ACA,not killing it.But tey are few

beatlex

Harleigh, Yes I have been living on Medicare.gov. I pretty much settled on either Medicare Supplement Part G or N. No more advantage plans for me. Now I’m trying to decide on a prescription company. Right now (because of my ignorance) I’m in the coverage gap. I didn’t know it is based on the retail cost of drugs and not on out-of-pocket cost.

sabreen60

Oh geez, the donut hole of high cost meds. If you are hitting that on medicare you really need to get one of the plans th I’m Ok for now on Humana Advantage for now.at has Drug plan for your particular meds/needs and calculate out of pocket vs cost of new coverage.

Harleigh

AdLib, I hope President Obama takes every executive action possible. Let them bring it. If they impeach him, I know they’ll lose in 2016.

sabreen60

ad – they’ve been awful so long, I was wondering when the people would notice and do something about it.

sillylittleme

Hey Sabreen–I was “out” when you came in. Don’t know your age, but if you’re eligible, you might also want to check out the AARP plans. I have United for both health and prescription. Have only used the prescription once, and only paid for $4.50 for a month of antibiotics. I’m on Medicare, too.

glenn

Oh geez, the donut hole of high cost meds. If you are hitting that on medicare you really need to get one of the plans that has Drug plan for your particular meds/needs and calculate out of pocket vs cost of new coverage. I’m Ok for now on Humana Advantage for now.

Harleigh

Sorry folks, had to step away for a sec.

killgoretrout

Murph–a little change of subject, but besides the cops and the KKK gearing up for violence, any word on when the grand jury decision will come down?

glenn

Ad….I just went back and read the entire section on the reconciliation process- there are twists and turns galore in the process. I will get back to you.

murphthesurf3

I have a sinking suspicion that all this worry about violence erupting could mean the GJ is NOT going to indict.

killgoretrout

Hi glenn. I’ve look at probably every plan available in my area. I’ve decided not to go with advantage plans. I like the Medicare Supplements G and N. They are less expensive than most advantage plans including AARP and you can see any doctor who accepts Medicare. With “G” there are no doctor co-pays and cost about $145.00 a month. “N” is $95 a month with co-pay UP TO $20. The drug company “Silver Script” has no deductible and is $26.00 a month plus very low cost for generic drugs. Sorry guys I didn’t mean to take up space with my “stuff”.

sabreen60

ACA is for people under 65, Medicare is over 65 and way different. Both now have the same annual enrollement window that confuses the living SHIT out of everyone! LMAO

Harleigh

KT–I agree. But, one can hope for the best. It would be ironic if the GJ comes out with an indictment, and the whites in Ferguson protest!

glenn

KT I will be one surprised person if the GJ indicts.

sabreen60

ad – but when they make a mess and little is accomplished to undo the mess the mess just keeps piling up

sillylittleme

Ad…then what is all the chatter about them being able to bypass him. It is everywhere.

murphthesurf3

Good night friends.Feeling for Oz right now,that is awful what happened

beatlex

glenn, both whites in Ferguson? lol

Harleigh

Me too Sabreen. I just have a sneaking suspicion that another killer cop will be let off the hook. Heaven help Ferguson if that happens. A lot of people will get hurt.

killgoretrout

nite beatlex

Harleigh

Later B!

killgoretrout

Nite beatlex.

sabreen60

night b

sillylittleme

Ad–there has to be a vacancy on the SCOTUS to replace one of them. And, it doesn’t even look like the POTUS is going to be able to appoint another attorney general to replace Holder; let alone get a SCOTUS appointment through.

glenn

What did I miss. I didn’t read all comments, but what happened with PPO. And what about Oz?

sabreen60

Real ugly Ad!

killgoretrout

G’night Bealtex. Thanks for the information tonight!

glenn

Sabreen–PPO’s brother in Northern Ireland died; he just got word tonight.

glenn

Well folks, I’m out too. See ya’ll later.

killgoretrout

nite kt

sillylittleme

G’night KT. Sleep well.

glenn

AdLib, I don’t like how the media is handling Fergerson. There was very little violence. Yet the cops are gearing up like it’s going to be WWIII. I heard CNN today and as far as I’m concerned they sounded like instigators.

sabreen60

Good night, KT. Take care.

sabreen60

sabreen – that seems to be the news’ new mission

sillylittleme

sabreen ppo said his brother just died unexpectedly and had to go.

Harleigh

Oh, glenn. Thanks for telling me. That’s so sad.

sabreen60

nite ky

Harleigh

kt

Harleigh

Sabreen–I agree about the media’s handling of Ferguson. It seems NO ONE is talking about WHY the people in Ferguson are so upset. Read a comment the other day that the grand jury taking so long is analagous to Michael Brown’s body laying in the street for four long hours.’

glenn

harleigh

sillylittleme

glenn – it does seem to be similar…

sillylittleme

ad – but that would be responsible and sensible

sillylittleme

AdLib, How about telling the KKK to stand down. One of them was on TV and was quoting as saying recruitment is better for them now then it was when PBO was elected. Also, more guns and ammo have been sold. These people want a race riot.

sabreen60

it won’t be pretty

Harleigh

Ad- thanks for the explanation. So, when the GOP speaks of defunding…they are speaking of a face saving pro forma action they can take and Obama can reject.

murphthesurf3

sorry to be so in and out tonight…lots happening

murphthesurf3

Murph, I thought that the GOP could vote to not fund certain parts of the ACA.

sabreen60

Ad and Murph–that’s the whole point, isn’t it? That the gop “tries” to “help” the American people, but big, bad, (and black) Obama is stopping them!

glenn

Ad – See Sabreen’s comment. that is what I am speaking about.

murphthesurf3

The GOP is now claiming they have 9 health care bills that Reid refused to bring to the floor. Why don’t they make these bills public if they exist so people can see exactly what they are.

sabreen60

I am also working on the Ferguson thing. What a damn mess.

murphthesurf3

Sabreen–the KKK has the law on it’s side. At least that’s what their pamphlet says. Of course, the people protesting the verdict don’t have any rights, legal or otherwise, according to the KKK and the media.

glenn

because they don’t exist, same as the GOP budget, or any real legislation, DEFUND ACoRN!!

Harleigh

Glenn- you asked about Ferguson. Rumor here is that the announcement will be on Sunday. We have a snow storm coming in on Saturday night and very cold temps on Sunday.

murphthesurf3

glenn, The KKK is on the ground in Ferguson and surrounding counties. No one is telling them to stand down.

sabreen60

Sab and Glenn…KKK has a regional HQ 7 miles from here – nasty people.

murphthesurf3

Sabreen–I was being sarcastic when I said that the KKK has the law on its side. I agree that they should be told to stand down.

glenn

maybe they’ll stay inside if it is cold

sillylittleme

SLM–I hear the wind blows pretty fierce under those robes!

glenn

Harleigh – May I just type “Har”.

sabreen60

glenn – lol

sillylittleme

SABREEN sure

Harleigh

Ad- every indication that this was so. There have been these press conferences to warn people that the police are ready.

murphthesurf3

Ad–wait for bad weather and for the police to amass more weapons to use against the protestors.

glenn

Murph, When Wilson wasn’t arrested

sabreen60

I don’t go out if it under 60 degreess

Harleigh

I think that Wilson will be charge with Manslaughter 2.

murphthesurf3

Harleigh–that’s because you live in Florida and you’re a cold weather wimp! I know because I was one myself until I finally got some winter clothes, which are hard to find in the Keys!

glenn

Oops. When no police report was made public, I knew what the deal was. Everything that has been done to not prosecute has been done. He was given enough time to listen to all the witnesses and taylor his account to theirs.

sabreen60

Ad–agreed, but haven’t they been “collecting” more lately?

glenn

Well I’m nodding out. Staysafe and warm all.

Harleigh

Har I hear you. However, I’d never go out in the winter. In fact, it only when up to about 42 today here in Maryland.

sabreen60

Alright folks, time for me to call it a night and get under my warm blankets with my warm p.j.’s on. Take care everyone and have a good weekend.

glenn

nite glenn – stay warm

sillylittleme

G’night Harleigh.

glenn

nite harleigh

sillylittleme

Do you Murph? I don’t much about sentencing, but that carries a pretty light sentence doesn’t it?

sabreen60

Ad…DOJ has already said that a CR prosecution is not likely.

murphthesurf3

Nite, glenn. Stay safe and warm.

sabreen60

Sab. It does. AND it could be a probationary sentence.

murphthesurf3

Nite Har take care.

sabreen60

Provocation and Imperfect Self Defense are what Make a Manslaughter 2 charge possible.

murphthesurf3

Ad. Don’t know but I saw the story last week and the outrage here was huge.

murphthesurf3

Well Murph, I admit this is one area where I’m cynical. It’s not the first and it won’t be the last. I think facts on my side when I say black lives have far less value in this country.

sabreen60

Murph, It will be interesting to hear how they justify Wilson being under threat while Michael was running away. Wilson got out his car. So I wonder how they will square this.

sabreen60

Ad..

murphthesurf3

AdLib, The Washington Post may this story right. However, they’ve been wrong a few times recently.

sabreen60

ad – and how will the people fare against the police? the no justice system?

sillylittleme

AdLib, I’m not holding my breath. Forgive me. But when I see how nothing was done when 20 babies were shot down in their school, I don’t think much will be done in an attempt to see that black Americans, especially males, are treated fairly in the justice system.

sabreen60

slm, If the people fight back, it will be a blood bath.

sabreen60

sabreen – for the people

sillylittleme

For the people. I’m sure there are guns among the people, but no way do they stand a chance against the police, the Klan and the other armed citizens who are against them.

sabreen60

so sad that we can’t be what we claim to be, for freedom and justice for all

sillylittleme

The civil rights old hands in this area have been very clear (again)…..the best pattern would be. March in the mid morning; educate and plan and rest in the early afternoon; rally in the late afternoon; AND THEN HOME. leave the night to the police, the thugs, the gang bangers and the stupid.

murphthesurf3

I am so impressed with young protesters. Actually all of them. They have shown so much restraint.

sabreen60

And with that dear folks, I am going to say Good night. Please take care.

sabreen60

nite sabreen

sillylittleme

Sab. Goodnight.

murphthesurf3

murph – that sounds like sensible protesting, will the police allow for it?

sillylittleme

Ad….in my experience, the night is the mask that malcontent, provocateurs, vandals and looters use to destroy the integrity of the protest and to gain their own ground. The only night events I have taken part in were church vigils.

murphthesurf3

SLM….I think so. The Gov’s and State Police and National Guard’s name are all over the events now.

murphthesurf3

Ad…Al and Jesse and two local “leader” are opportunists as well.

murphthesurf3

murph and ad – agree about the opportunists, but will the police stand down or want to seem in control

sillylittleme

SLM…I think so, it would make them reasonable parties.

murphthesurf3

Ad Since the alternative will undermine their position even further- even in the black community which is NOT in support of ad hoc street action- it makes sense

murphthesurf3

Ad Yep….

murphthesurf3

Ad…did you see my ACA piece?

murphthesurf3

ad – maybe msnbc will script him

sillylittleme

Ad…with all due respect….the protest were the cover for the looting, the vandalism and the supposed gun shots. The night does not put protestors into good light. It hardly ever does.

murphthesurf3

What the protest have to do is impress a tv audience, and to get a lot more people thinking good things about them because rght now they have lost their the public.

murphthesurf3

Ad…asking for trouble. Gang activity was at the center of a lot of what was happening. As one of my mentors said: “the night is a mask and we know who wears them.”

murphthesurf3

ad – would anything at this point??

sillylittleme

A huge, beautifully organized protest march with a rally at the end and strong, but short voices will get tons of positive TV and internet time. There are lots of people here who want the violence.

murphthesurf3

ad – I agree, what would inspire the public, I think they are largely still asleep. Which I need to be soon. Good night to you and Murph.

sillylittleme

ad – and I’m still waiting for the impact from OWS…

sillylittleme