Vox Populi, our weekly live chat about the week’s events begins tonight at 7:00pm PDT.
AdLib
2 days ago
And man, what events this week! Trump indicted on 37 federal counts! Unfortunately, I’m out of town tonight and may not be able to be here for Vox but I hope all of you have a great conversation about the historic federal indictments of Trump and all the other connected and unconnected events this week. Hope to see you later but if not, have a great Vox!
AdLib
2 days ago
Just popping in to say hey and that I don’t think I’ll make it tonight. Have a great Vox!
AdLib
2 days ago
Hey Murph
twilson117
2 days ago
Hi TW….Just you and me right now…..shame AD would have LOVED to vent.
MurphTheSurf3
2 days ago
How are you holding out in your neck of the woods.
twilson117
2 days ago
Ad……what a week for you to miss the discussion…….I am sure you will be willing to share your reaction with us next week.
MurphTheSurf3
2 days ago
I am doing ok.
MurphTheSurf3
2 days ago
Murph did you read the indictment of Trump?
twilson117
2 days ago
37 counts,
twilson117
2 days ago
The GOP is at it again….they seem to have identified a ringer who they can secretly back (Like Bush-Valentine) to keep Hawley safe from Kunce…this time a black man who no one has heard of……no shame at all.
MurphTheSurf3
2 days ago
TW…..I have been watching the coverage and read over them…..
MurphTheSurf3
2 days ago
Earlier in the day it was “7 counts”
MurphTheSurf3
2 days ago
Yes the coverage on MSNBC is no stop, they are point out some key points.
twilson117
2 days ago
I have been flipped from CNN to MSNBC
MurphTheSurf3
2 days ago
There are the Trump supporters in Congress already jumping to his defense my guess is they haven’t read the indictment which is pretty damning but they don’t care. I sure folks in your neck of the woods are ready to take up arms and start another civil war of this.
twilson117
2 days ago
TW….that is so….the GOP In the House/Senate were ready with their attacks…….and yes, I have heard a lot of angry words and threatening statements.
MurphTheSurf3
2 days ago
Joy Ried said something very profound in her analysis about Trump, 1)The charges in NY gets to Trump’s venality, 2)The E.G. Carol case to his hatred of women, 3) This to his lack of basic patriotism and 4) Jan 6th to his utter hatred of us and the country.
twilson117
2 days ago
Joy is someone who I was initially reserved about but it is clear insights like that one that have made me a fan. She is razor sharp.
MurphTheSurf3
2 days ago
What is so said the very people who claim they love this country can’t seem to separate loyalty to democracy from a fetish devotion to someone who doesn’t gave a damn about them.
twilson117
2 days ago
Joy can be tough to take at times I will give you that. But she is sharp and insightful.
twilson117
2 days ago
WELLLLLL…it looks like I jumped to conclusion. Wesley Bell is a prosecutor with a strong background story……I will take a closer look.
MurphTheSurf3
2 days ago
Ad I’m surprise to see you.
twilson117
2 days ago
TW….good capture of the contradiction inherent in the stance that so many trumpets take.
MurphTheSurf3
2 days ago
Is Ad back?
MurphTheSurf3
2 days ago
TW…I have even come to appreciate Reid toughness…..a very strong presence.
MurphTheSurf3
2 days ago
Ad….is gone….or was it his ghost-spirit?
MurphTheSurf3
2 days ago
Murph she can be spot on and there are times she can be a bit much but it all balances out.
twilson117
2 days ago
TW…..accurate observation.
MurphTheSurf3
2 days ago
I did see him pop in maybe it’s the ghost in the machine.
twilson117
2 days ago
Good one.
MurphTheSurf3
2 days ago
I image the folks over at Fox are having cardiac arrest over this.
twilson117
2 days ago
Glenn is in the House, how are you
twilson117
2 days ago
Given the complexity and seriousness of the charges….how can he campaign?
MurphTheSurf3
2 days ago
Murph given the fact he is a grifter you know he is raising money off of this.
twilson117
2 days ago
I have watched a bit of Fox….their pose is that of “shock, and disgust” at the abuse of power by the Biden Admin in its conducting of this unsupported “hit” on their man, the true PREZ.
MurphTheSurf3
2 days ago
Hey Glenn.
MurphTheSurf3
2 days ago
Tw….there are millions and millions to be taken….PT Barnum was right.
MurphTheSurf3
2 days ago
Good evening gents. Can’t stay long because as usual I’m exhausted from dialysis. But I just wanted to celebrate with you guys with this indictment. Finally. And I just have to comment on one thing that I read that Trump said about the documents. It was a conversation he was having with his people and they were talking about the documents and he was he said something like oh nobody knows what’s in these documents are really cool nobody knows what’s in these documents but me and I am the only one that know. Is it sounded to me so much like a little kid oh look look I have candy I have candy and I can show it to anybody but I can keep it to myself if I want to it just cracked me up anyway that’s my thought on that
glenn
2 days ago
Murph what gets about their claim that the Biden Admin is doing this is just plain foolishness, but when it’s all about us vs them it doesn’t matter to them does it? They think Trump is some kind of hero with all he is a grifter on the first level.
twilson117
2 days ago
Glenn….nailed it….childlike glee…..”I’ve got something you do not….nah, nah, da, nah, nah, nah” -with tongue stuck out.
MurphTheSurf3
2 days ago
Glenn glad you’re here even for a brief moment. And yest it a great joy in Mudville tonight for those of us who believe in democracy. 
twilson117
2 days ago
TW……for those folks nobility exists only on their side of the field of battle.
MurphTheSurf3
2 days ago
TW…in Mudville? A reference to the mighty Casey striking out…is Trump Casey?
MurphTheSurf3
2 days ago
Glenn….how is your dialysis going? It is SO hard on a person’s constitution……
MurphTheSurf3
2 days ago
Murph interesting point. On the filed of battle each side believes their cause is the righteous.
twilson117
2 days ago
It’s good to see that now all Republicans are running to the treasonous lying bullies defense. Christie try to walk the line between saying no one is above the law and Romney said just about the same thing. But all these stupid Republicans complaining about the weaponization of the government is just unreal. I don’t understand why news anchors aren’t pushing back against that word. Now that the indictments are in news reporters can say it is it weaponization here are the charges. It is not something made up. OK I’ll get off my soap nox now.
glenn
2 days ago
TW…both flying the colors of the Righteous knight.
MurphTheSurf3
2 days ago
Murph thanks for asking. I’m totally wiped out when I get done on dialysis days. But the rest of my days I can pretty much function very well.
glenn
2 days ago
Glenn….perch on that soap box, and proclaim it loud and proud. The evidence in the counts is very damning.
MurphTheSurf3
2 days ago
Glenn….good to hear that you are getting good days among the trying ones.
MurphTheSurf3
2 days ago
Oh speaking of soapboxes I think you all will get a kick out of this. As you know I live in an assisted living facility and when I first got here it was very nice and very well run. Now a new management company has taken over and things are just in chaos. So somehow or another I got roped into being the vice president of the residence counsel for the facility. So I will be on my soapbox here couple days a week. Do you believe that?
glenn
2 days ago
Glenn you raise a good point. I don’t understand it either. It’s as if they feel obligated to always remain neutral when the lie is right in front of them and they will not call it out, because of fear of being called biased.
twilson117
2 days ago
Glenn….don the armor of. the righteous! The electorate must have seen some “true grit” in you…..
MurphTheSurf3
2 days ago
Glenn I have a strong feeling that management is in for a whirlwind. 
twilson117
2 days ago
TW…..those in the GOP who will not join in the defense of DT find themselves isolated, rejected, spurned and unfunded.
MurphTheSurf3
2 days ago
Murph perhaps but they not on a island alone they just think they are.
twilson117
2 days ago
TW….for them life on the island feels very lonely …..even if there are others there sharing their doubts….those others have been labeled “lepers” as well.
MurphTheSurf3
2 days ago
Murph I believe we know there are a number of Repubs who can’t stand Trump and believe in democracy and their is a point of compromise they can come up with.
twilson117
2 days ago
TW— it goes back a long way as to news stations being accused of being biased. I can remember years ago when people used to accuse 60 Minutes of being biased because they actually went after the fax. That’s what conservatives don’t like is the facts. And they like them even less nowadays. Also when the news was changed from a separate department and incorporated into the regular running of the station or paper they got so scared of people calling them biased and not watching their channels. It’s kind of a convoluted explanation but that’s the way I think it’s happened.
glenn
2 days ago
TW….I do hope that you are correct. The stats indicated that 30 to 40 percent of the GOP is anchored to the Trump ship. Where are the others? Most are standing by unsure of where to go ors what to do.
MurphTheSurf3
2 days ago
Glenn yes, for news stations and papers it became all about the bottom line
twilson117
2 days ago
I don’t really want to give people a hard time. I just want him to be efficient We’ll see how efficient I can be or how much we can actually get done. Anyway I figure it’s better than sitting around complaining.
glenn
2 days ago
glenn….good approach.
MurphTheSurf3
2 days ago
Murph I believe there are a lot more Repubs who have taken on the Independent label and then there is young crowd which keeps increasing every day, but, I take your point around the lack of speaking up.
twilson117
2 days ago
TW and Glenn….it is all a money game…..watchers, listeners, and readers are the conduit through which monetary support flows.
MurphTheSurf3
2 days ago
Murph you’re correct on that
twilson117
2 days ago
TW….I am hoping that those. non-MAGA trumps will step up when the time comes and not leave the field.
MurphTheSurf3
2 days ago
TWN Murph it’s good to see that some GOP will not defend Trump. And you all are right when you’re saying there’s only a few and they’re all in an island in a way. However it
glenn
2 days ago
Glenn….I have been pleased to see that a few Republicans have bravely taken on the behemoth.
MurphTheSurf3
2 days ago
Ah…Glenn left….she must be exhausted.
MurphTheSurf3
2 days ago
Murph & Glenn it’s going to get even more interesting when Willis comes out with her charges
twilson117
2 days ago
TW…..Who is Willis? I am taking a call at 9:45 from the Kunce campaign. It won’t be long.
MurphTheSurf3
2 days ago
The DA in George
twilson117
2 days ago
I’m still here. Somehow I lost my connection I think I’m back.
glenn
2 days ago
DUH….of course.
MurphTheSurf3
2 days ago
Glenn…you are not showing up in the list of contributors but your post is appearing.
MurphTheSurf3
2 days ago
Murph how is the campaign going?
twilson117
2 days ago
TW I agree the Willis case is going to be very interesting.
glenn
2 days ago
Glenn yes it will be looking forward to it.
twilson117
2 days ago
Murph I’m a ghost poster.
glenn
2 days ago
TW…..Kunce is raising good money, volunteers are popping up, his message is sharper now….but first he must win the primary.
MurphTheSurf3
2 days ago
Glenn…..the Ghost Writer……
MurphTheSurf3
2 days ago
Murph well that is good to hear. Need someone sensible from your state.
twilson117
2 days ago
Murph what is his primary opponent like? Could you live with him/her as a candidate?
glenn
2 days ago
TW…..and, as I noted early, it appears that Wesley Bell is also one of the sensible ones. I just hope that an overly hot primary campaign will deflate Dem chances.
MurphTheSurf3
2 days ago
Ad what can you tell us about this Bell person?
twilson117
2 days ago
Glenn….I was sharing with TW that an opponent just came forward. Wesley Bell. African American leader. State Prosecutor. From an activist family.It might energize the black vote which would be good.
MurphTheSurf3
2 days ago
TW….phone call received and ended…
MurphTheSurf3
2 days ago
Murph well that was indeed short
twilson117
2 days ago
TW…..the caller is putting together a meeting and we had to find an agreeable timer for all parties. It was easier to do that I thought.
MurphTheSurf3
2 days ago
Murph that’s great. But I share your concern that two good candidates might throw a Monkey wrench into the mix.
glenn
2 days ago
Glenn…Trudy Busch Valentine did just that…..she got the notation and then did not campaign…..a trojan horse. My gut is now saying that neither Kunce or Bell are part of a plot.
MurphTheSurf3
2 days ago
OMG! I just realized what I said. Please forgive me. All right I’m really tired. That’s no excuse.
glenn
2 days ago
Glenn…..we know your heart and mind….the cliche has been around a long time……
MurphTheSurf3
2 days ago
Murph I’m a little confused. So valentine won the primary and then did not campaign so that the Republican won the election? And you think that was a planned thing?
glenn
2 days ago
Murph so what are the folks saying about the field?
twilson117
2 days ago
Glenn….yep….she was a decoy….her family has been rewarded by the State Legislature in several areas.
MurphTheSurf3
2 days ago
TW…..buzz is very low right now.
MurphTheSurf3
2 days ago
I swear Republicans will do anything to win an election. Except come up with a good policy.
glenn
2 days ago
Murph that’s when bad things are brewed up.
twilson117
2 days ago
Glenn and TW….you know the lay of the land.
MurphTheSurf3
2 days ago
Murph the proverbial snakes in the grass.
twilson117
2 days ago
Well my gentleman friends it’s time for me to go. Enjoyed chatting with the two of you and hope we can talk about some more indictments next week! 00 I did forget to tell you when I was at dialysis today went to one of the other patients came in and he asked the technician if she wanted to go to Miami with him on Tuesday? And at first she didn’t know what he was talking about and then she said OK and then I said I’ll go to so we all decided that we’re going to go to the Indictment on my in Miami on Tuesday. What do you think
glenn
2 days ago
Glenn you take care.
twilson117
2 days ago
TW Asp me no questions and I will tell you no lies….said the snake.
MurphTheSurf3
2 days ago
Glenn…be well.
MurphTheSurf3
2 days ago
G’night
glenn
2 days ago
Murph we know that’s all snakes do is lie.
twilson117
2 days ago
Glenn….is not here….but her Miami trip sounds fine, really fine.
MurphTheSurf3
2 days ago
I am watching Joy right now…..she has Avery commanding presence.
MurphTheSurf3
2 days ago
Murph I have a feeling Miami is going to be like an armed encampment next week.
twilson117
2 days ago
TW….given that FL is one of the big centers of the radical right….quite possible.
MurphTheSurf3
2 days ago
Yes indeed and with Trump having to show up and get processed it’s going to be very interesting.
twilson117
2 days ago
Hi all
pinkpantheroz
2 days ago
PPO is in the HOUSE !!!
twilson117
2 days ago
Am i too late?
pinkpantheroz
2 days ago
PPO how are you?
twilson117
2 days ago
Well…..that agreed upon meeting is early tomorrow…..I need to be wide awake……so I too will say “good night”…..WAIT….PPO JUST CHECKED IN….ok I will stay for a while.
MurphTheSurf3
2 days ago
PPO….greetings to you……
MurphTheSurf3
2 days ago
Murph you can’t leave now PPO is here.
twilson117
2 days ago
fine, thanks looks like I got the time zone wrong! sorry.
pinkpantheroz
2 days ago
PPO how the heck are you?
twilson117
2 days ago
PPO there is no time zone among friends.
twilson117
2 days ago
PPO: So what’s the haps in your world….ours is consumed by the Trumpphoon
MurphTheSurf3
2 days ago
grand. sold my townhouse and bought a 2 bed apartment near the sea.
pinkpantheroz
2 days ago
TW….really good line…no time zone among friends.
MurphTheSurf3
2 days ago
PPO…congrats on the sale and on the sea.
MurphTheSurf3
2 days ago
PPO good for you.
twilson117
2 days ago
The Trumpathon is on here as well. Pity the bugger wasn’t arrested there and then to spend the weekend in the clink!
pinkpantheroz
2 days ago
PPO by the sea that must be nice.
twilson117
2 days ago
PPO….so Trumpmania is down under.
MurphTheSurf3
2 days ago
Well, TW, my sociall scene is mostly at my sailing club. I race on wed and run the races on the weekend
pinkpantheroz
2 days ago
PPO have a question, if by some way we managed to ship Trump to you neck of the woods and he was dropped in the ocean would the great whites make a meal of him?
twilson117
2 days ago
listen, I’ll let you guys get to bed and see you all next week, OK?
pinkpantheroz
2 days ago
TW…..too much fat.
MurphTheSurf3
2 days ago
PPO,,,,so nice of you to stop by……
MurphTheSurf3
2 days ago
Murph but I thought sharks eat anything.
twilson117
2 days ago
TW, they would recognise him as one of their own. The Orcas would get him, lots of blubber!
pinkpantheroz
2 days ago
PPO good of you to drop by
twilson117
2 days ago
TW….even sharks have standards
MurphTheSurf3
2 days ago
PPO can always count on the Orcas.
twilson117
2 days ago
OK, so see u next week, a little earlier!
pinkpantheroz
2 days ago
PPO take care.
twilson117
2 days ago
So….as I started to say…..early meeting means I need for my brain to rest up. This has been really good. Goodnight TW.
MurphTheSurf3
2 days ago
Well Murph I’m going to sign off as well need to catch up on few things
twilson117
2 days ago
Murph get some rest see you next week.
twilson117
2 days ago
Good night…Good hour here.
MurphTheSurf3
2 days ago
Yes take care.
twilson117
2 days ago
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