Vox Populi – 09-09-2022

Vox Populi, our weekly live chat about the week’s events, begins tonight at 7:00pm PDT. Hope to see you then! AdLib 3 hours ago

Hey Murph! AdLib an hour ago

Hi TW! AdLib an hour ago

Good evening twilson117 an hour ago

Hello Ad and Murph twilson117 an hour ago

Lots to discuss tonight twilson117 an hour ago

For us, not so good for Trump, his cronies and Russia’s invasion of Ukraine. AdLib an hour ago

Stephen Miller subpoenaed! AdLib an hour ago

The 1/6 committee AdLib an hour ago

Well I was just getting caught up on MSNBC and there is a lot twilson117 an hour ago

‘s next public hearing should be 9/28! AdLib an hour ago

God save our gracious King! Long live our noble King! God save the King! Send him victorious, Happy and glorious, Long to reign over us: God save the King! O Lord our God arise, Scatter his enemies, And make them fall: Confound their politics, Frustrate their knavish tricks, On Thee our hopes we fix: God save us all. Thy choicest gifts in store, On him be pleased to pour; Long may he reign: May he defend our laws, And ever give us cause, With heart and voice to sing, God save the King! MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Miller what despicable individual. twilson117 an hour ago

Murph – Okay, I give, what is that from? AdLib an hour ago

When I was a kid in the UK….we sang the first and third verse. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

British national anthem. Of course we replaced King with Queen. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

How would you feel to have an official title as The King’s Consort in 2022? AdLib an hour ago

Well Murph they finally have a King hope he can live up to his mother. twilson117 an hour ago

I have little regard for Charles. I think he’s a little spoiled and selfish jerk. AdLib an hour ago

BTW, record heat wave over the past week here in CA…and today it’s raining from a tropical storm that took mercy on us. AdLib an hour ago

Ad….if our definition of consort is …. habitually associate with (someone), typically with the disapproval of others. Yes, not what one would w ant. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

I had the pleasure of working with an individual from England who was on a temp assignment, I asked him what he thought of the Royal family and he said a bolix on them all. It cracked me up. twilson117 an hour ago

Murph – Exactly. Maybe that’s what they should have given Melania as a title, she sure wasn’t the first lady, maybe 71st. AdLib an hour ago

I once met the queen of holland. She was riding a bike with two body guards riding behind her. She went shopping in an open market every day and lived with her husband in an apartment (a VERY nice one)….modern mnarchy. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

I love how the Irish completely blew up the whole monarchy thing in articles, they certainly have history on their side for that opinion. AdLib an hour ago

Ad….Melania was absent more than present. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Murph I think Melina has her private Gulf Stream on standby so she can live as soon as she feels she’s had enough of her dumbass husband. twilson117 an hour ago

Murph – That is a great story! Unlike the UK royalty, being among the people, living comparably modestly, that sounds like a great example for other countries still mired in the archaiac tradition of monarchies. AdLib an hour ago

I do think that the modern monarchs are walking a balance beam with some success. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

So guys what do you think of the Times article about Berman’s book on how Trump was interfering with the Justice department? twilson117 an hour ago

Here is the home page for the House Royale of Holland. The newest queen is named Maxima and quite a looker. She is married to King Willem-Alexander MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

TW – I think people were so desperately projecting on Melania that she disliked Trump and wanted to get away. She’s a golddigger with a sex worker’s mentality, he has the money, she has all that she wants, she’s on his team. Same with that BS early on in Trump’s reign about Ivanka and Jared being moderators on Trump, they were and are just as selfish, greedy and evil. People hate to believe that women who are “pretty” can be monsters and align themselves with monsters. Just denial, any person can be terrible no matter how they look. AdLib an hour ago

https://www.royal-house.nl/members-royal-house/queen-maxima#:~:text=Queen%20M%C3%A1xima%20is%20married%20to%20King%20Willem%2DAlexander.&text=The%20royal%20couple%20have%20three,Princess%20Alexia%20and%20Princess%20Ariane. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Ad…..the matriarch of a family of grifters is likely to be a grifter. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Murph – The European monarchies have recognized that the public wants them only for their symbolism and as long as that unspoken understanding of royalty as honoring their past is respected, it’s not a problem. It’s when a monarchy has real power to control their country that things get bad. AdLib an hour ago

Murph, Gold digger, sex worker mentality, hmmm, I can live with that. twilson117 an hour ago

Ad….I think your reading is correct….however, there are no ruling monarchies left, only reigning ones…… MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

TW – I think it confirms what many of us already suspected. Trump was clearly announcing he wanted “his” AG and Justice department to protect him and his cronies and go after his enemies and considering how justice was constantly thwarted during his term, it was clear he had corrupted the DoJ along with the SCOTUS and federal courts. AdLib an hour ago

I lived for 5 years in the UK and went to a public (i.e private) school that was a snapshot of the entire commonwealth with a large number yanks and frogs in the mix. I loved it. We had an inspired headmaster. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Ad I agree twilson117 an hour ago

Murph – Yes, she’s lovely and looks very down to Earth. Compare that to the crass and plastic surgery nightmare of Melania. AdLib an hour ago

Murph, ah the perks of being an Army brat. twilson117 an hour ago

What I find astounding is how hard it is proving to be to nail Trump et. al. Another indicator of how structurally flawed our system is. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Murph I have hope he will eventually get nailed his luck has to run out eventually. twilson117 an hour ago

Murph – The “rulers” today don’t go by “King” but they are basically kings of their countries. In Russia, China, North Korea, Turkey, etc., essentially the same as monarchies. Oh, and nearly the US but we may dodge that. Though women in many states would argue we’re already there. AdLib an hour ago

CL is in the house. twilson117 an hour ago

Hey CL! Did hubby find his wallet? AdLib an hour ago

Hi everyone! I am, TW – I am in the house! How are you, how are you AD, and MURPH! choicelady an hour ago

Murph – Sounds like a wonderful and special time in your life. AdLib an hour ago

Murph – for whatever reason, and it’s NOT similarity, I have come to treat you as they treated Norm in “Cheers”. Can’t explain it since you and Norm are light years different. choicelady an hour ago

Hey CL! Doing fine, just getting rain down here, are you getting any? What a blistering week! AdLib an hour ago

Ad – Nope. No wallet. Everything is being replaced. Ugh. choicelady an hour ago

TW…I was a navy brat and was sent off to school because my mother was ill….which did not last that long but I fell in love with “Darby” and talked the folks into letting me stay. I did not finish there as we moved back to the states but I am an honorary “Old Boy” (i.e. I donate to the school). MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Ad – no rain, but definite relief. When hurricanes come to Baja, the low sucks up the high, and we get cooler. But so far – no rain. choicelady an hour ago

Murph – It is proving our system is rigged to prevent the wealthy and especially the top political office holders from facing justice but there is a bridge too far. Unfortunately it was overthrowing democracy, staging a coup, money laundering a quarter of a billion, assembling fake electors and stealing top secret nuclear papers to trade or sell for personal benefit. Seems like one of those should have been enough. AdLib an hour ago

Murph – I lived in England briefly, far less long than you, and loved it mostly. choicelady an hour ago

CL……MURPH!….NORM!….yep, a definite synergy. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Murph, A Navy brat, that’s better. My dad was in the Navy. twilson117 an hour ago

CL – That really is awful! I haven’t permanently lost my wallet but I have lost it and it is such a frustrating and miserable feeling. AdLib an hour ago

CL…..I have only lost my wallet once and it was a nightmare. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Ad and all – I do NOT think the system is rigged here for the wealthy but for the vastly complex nature of this J6 case. Now a second front is opened with an entirely different body of law – sedition is one thing. International espionage and treason is quite another. choicelady an hour ago

CL – Well, glad it’s cooling you off up there too. I was so pleased to see the rain but very surprised. Doesn’t usually rain in September here. AdLib an hour ago

I am fine with DOJ doing the J6 like a RICO so the Yam Man can’t point at anyone and weasel out – oh, it wasn’t ME, it was the covfefe boy. He is MUCH greater peril on the documents and what he did with them. Now – let’s PROVE it. This is the hard part. Who will admit they bought them? choicelady an hour ago

Ad….when you look at the list of criminal behavior it certainly seems like the time has come for a reckoning but I am not convinced that this is so…….If he Dems do not hold the House and Senate the undermining of proper order will continue, and likely accelerate. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Ad – it’s the hurricane that’s giving you the rain. choicelady an hour ago

Murph – this is our third “lost wallet” rodeo. I’m pretty done with it. choicelady an hour ago

CL…..maybe your guy needs one of those wallets that is chained to the belt. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

CL – I do think it is rigged for the wealthy. Only one sacrificial goat went to prison for the housing crash that destroyed the global economy. No pharma owner or exec has gone to prison for all kinds of evil they’ve committed including the opiod addiction crisis. The actual people who have destroyed the lives of millions always seem to get away with it. AdLib an hour ago

Murph – I read something really cool about MO and now can’t remember what it was. Do you know? Had to do with changes in Dem registration or something. choicelady an hour ago

Ad – the law in general I don’t disagree. But the law pertaining to sedition, espionage, treason – well, no. choicelady an hour ago

CL..something “cool” about Mo…..I hope you can recall it….I know not. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Murph – I know it shouldn’t come to me that if there’s something cool about MO YOU should know it, but it was unusual enough to make me think you might. CANNOT remember it. choicelady an hour ago

CL – I would bet Kash Patel figures in the middle of stealing the Top Secret docs and no doubt other Trump stooges he put into key positions. I think the GA DA will be using RICO charges as well against Trump and his cronies, who knows, Lindsey Graham may even get swept up by RICO in that case. AdLib an hour ago

Murph anything else blowing up in MO near you? twilson117 an hour ago

TW…..I am spending nearly all of my energy on the Il 13th. There is nothing and no one in state government worth one iota. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Murph that’s got to be tough, but I have confidence you’ll do good things in II13th twilson117 an hour ago

TW…working at it. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Murph – Those are two things that could be different or could be connected. The DoJ will still be able to prosecute (as will the NY AG and the Fulton County DA) whether or not the Repubs gain control in The House. But the circus they’ll begin on show hearings will be distracting. And if Repubs ever get unified control in DC before Dems fix the SCOTUS, Roe and Election Rights, all if that can be destroyed including justice and law and order. But…if Dems can pull out 52+ seats in The Senate and hold the House in Nov, they can fix the democratic infrastructure before 2024 and these enemies of democracy and law and order will be hamstrung. AdLib an hour ago

Everyone, do you think Garland with bring charges against Trump?? twilson117 an hour ago

CL – Yep, it’s a tropical storm now though, no winds to speak of, just a warm rain. Not bad at all. AdLib an hour ago

CL – Tell hubby to get a wallet with a chain! AdLib an hour ago

Murph – Ah, you already beat me to the punch on the chain for the wallet! AdLib an hour ago

TW – I have EVERY confidence he will charge on J6. There are lesser charges immediately available on the docs, but I think Garland will try to prove he or Jarad or someone close SOLD or TRADED them for benefits to Trump et al. That’s huge and will take some time. choicelady an hour ago

Ad….I agree with your understanding……my fear….the uninformed and disengaged, and easily fooled, lazy electorate. Mastriano in PA has pulled up nearly even with is Dem opponent and he is abut as bad as they get. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Ad and Murph – I might convince him to do that. We’re also looking into those trackers you put in or on your various belongings to find where they are. The one we have is just for inside the house. We need one that has a long distance track. choicelady 44 minutes ago

CL – Right, for sedition, espionage and treason, Trump is really the test case for the proposition that no one is above the law. And I do think Garland and the DoJ will charge him and should be able to convict him. But I can’t imagine Trump being sentanced to an hour in jail. AdLib 44 minutes ago

sentenced AdLib 44 minutes ago

Chain wallets, leather vests, and cowboy hats! It is a look. MurphTheSurf3 44 minutes ago

Murph – although polls are looking good for Dems, I refuse to pay attention because of how off kilter they have been since 2016. choicelady 44 minutes ago

Murph – it’s a look, but it’s not Greg’s look. Not remotely. choicelady 43 minutes ago

TW – Yes, I think Trump will be indicted by DoJ at latest, after the first of the year. AdLib 43 minutes ago

We have a Trump believer running for Gov here in MA. twilson117 43 minutes ago

CL…..re. the elections to come….my fear….the uninformed and disengaged, and easily fooled, lazy electorate. MurphTheSurf3 43 minutes ago

Ad – I think Trump will do hard time. Garland is not playing. The unknowns are the judges and juries. NOT Garland. choicelady 42 minutes ago

Murph – the uptick in registrations for Dems – 1000% in a couple of places – tells me people suddenly realize that being lazy MIGHT not have been a good idea. choicelady 42 minutes ago

CL….Hope you are correct. MurphTheSurf3 41 minutes ago

Murph – I hope I’m correct, too! choicelady 41 minutes ago

CL I agree with you around polls. For the past elections they’ve been off so I’m not paying any attention to them. twilson117 41 minutes ago

CL – Just like we knew Trump had stolen documents from the WH, we know he took them to profit from them. He traded national secrets for Jared’s $2 billion and/or other payoffs, the Saudi golf tournament slush fund, Putin’s promises of a Trump Tower Moscow, whatever. The only question is if the DoJ can find the evidence to fully prove it. Otherwise, he should be nailed on the theft of the documents and obstructing justice by lying that he was hiding them. AdLib 40 minutes ago

I was watching Hillary C being interviewed on a broad range of topics and deep inside I found myself aching over what her loss meant for and for America. She would have been an extraordinary president. MurphTheSurf3 40 minutes ago

Murph it just wasn’t in the cards for her. I agree she would have been good. twilson117 39 minutes ago

Murph – I don’t think whatever poll you’re referring to is that accurate. Mastriano has been in the toilet until this poll, sounds like an outlier. And one thing I’ve noticed about polls is that they’re really underestimating the women turning out and registering, predictions have repeatedly been wrong about numerous elections already, all in one direction, underestimating the pro Dem and pro-Progressive vote that women are fired up about bringing. AdLib 38 minutes ago

Ad – I think this is true. choicelady 37 minutes ago

CL – But the tracker means you still lose it first and someone can steal cards and money. With a chain, it never stays behind. AdLib 37 minutes ago

TW – Yes, I saw the Trumper running for Gov in MA, no way. Can’t win in MA. AdLib 36 minutes ago

All, there is something deeply wrong in the country, that they want autocracy instead of democracy . twilson117 36 minutes ago

Ad….Shapiro is so clearly the correct choice that I could not believe the reports on CNN and MSNBC. MurphTheSurf3 35 minutes ago

I’ll definitely suggest that chain to him. Knowing him, he could leave his PANTS behind. You can laugh, but last time he was down in Anaheim at a conference he left his toiletries, his phone charger, several other things, AND his suit JACKET and never noticed. He’s left coats, clothes, etc. He can be counted on for two things – his CPAP (though not all its parts) and his work papers. That’s about it. Yes – he has ADD. choicelady 35 minutes ago

Ad his numbers aren’t good and it will never happen, folks here prefer a moderate Republican. twilson117 35 minutes ago

CL – That would be incredible if Trump did hard time and what a move to protect the rule of law in the country. I hope you’re right but even if he was going to be sentenced to prison, watch him come to court in a wheelchair and oxygen mask in place to plead for home arrest. AdLib 35 minutes ago

I have NO doubt Garland will indict. I do worry about the judge and jury. choicelady 34 minutes ago

Choice…….yes, it seems likely that he would lose the chain with his pants. MurphTheSurf3 34 minutes ago

Ad – he can pretend to be incapacitated all he wants. Federal prison has excellent hospital facilities. choicelady 34 minutes ago

Murph – I am not always patient about these things, but I have learned to laugh at most of it. Most. choicelady 33 minutes ago

CL….you are a jewel! MurphTheSurf3 33 minutes ago

CL – I’m not big on polls now either, just using election results as a guide and they consistently show Dems over-performing and Repubs underperforming. Alaska has a Dem rep for the first time in decades, passing over famous RW Palin! That and the Kansas vote represent something big is going on. AdLib 33 minutes ago

Murph – ask Greg. NOT always. I tore strips off him when we’d gone to Ashland and for the FOURTH TIME he left part of his CPAP. The first full day we left at 6 am, drove home, got the part, drove back. We were supposed to see “The Sign in Sidney Brustein’s Window” by Lorraine Hansberry. I saw about 25%. Slept through it. choicelady 31 minutes ago

CL it sounds like your Hubbie has to replace a number of items. twilson117 31 minutes ago

I have since calmed down – it’s really HIS problem, not mine. choicelady 31 minutes ago

CL…sounds dynamic! MurphTheSurf3 30 minutes ago

Murph – But I could almost guarantee that if Hillary won in 2016, she would have lost in 2020. Instead of rewriting history for Trump, Repubs would have crushed her over all the Covid deaths, the deficit, the economic crash, she would have lost to (stupid) swing voters who would want a change and it could very well have been Trump beating her in 2020. Hard to see any president getting re-elected after the Covid/economy disasters. AdLib 30 minutes ago

TW – I often say we’d be millionaires if we hadn’t had to replace …fill in the blank. We now own the world’s largest collection of shirts and underwear. All bought on the road to somewhere. choicelady 30 minutes ago

Ad – I have thought about that. She would have certainly handled COVID better, but the inevitable downturn would have been laid at her feet. She would have still likely had a GOP Congress that obstructed her. Obama would have been vastly more effective if the “send Dems a message and don’t vote” 2010 hadn’t let the dogs out. We got the freaking Tea Party then. choicelady 28 minutes ago

TW – There have always been pro-autocracy types in the US, the whole Confederate/racist/RW Christian Dominionist movement has bubbled along through our history, bubbling up to the surface time and time again. It needs to be buried again by decency and changes in laws and repudiation by the majority that opposes it. AdLib 28 minutes ago

Ad….I don’t know….Hillary would have responded to all of those crises with focus, energy, creativity, and a marshalling of forces esp. among women that things could been very different….but coulda does not soften the blow. MurphTheSurf3 27 minutes ago

Murph had Hillary been in office we wouldn’t have had the number of deaths we did from COVID she would have and the common sense to head it off at the pass. twilson117 27 minutes ago

Murph – Yep, Shapiro is so right for PA and I think a majority sees that and so do a majority of women who want to protect their rights which Mastriano openly admits he will take away. AdLib 27 minutes ago

Don’t forget the America First groups that tried a coup against FDR then stood firmly w Germany. My grandfather was a sympathizer (the MO grandfather, Murph). My grandmother left him over that and other things. choicelady 26 minutes ago

CL…I like your grandma. MurphTheSurf3 25 minutes ago

I have vacillated from hope to despair several times every day. This was NOT the retirement I’d wanted. ] choicelady 25 minutes ago

CL that’s a lot of stuff to lose. twilson117 24 minutes ago

Murph – she was a suffragette, became a social worker w a MA during the Depression, came from Abolitionist stock, and was a woman of great intelligence. My grandfather was an English Lit prof but a bigot. How that all got missed in the courting years, I don’t know. choicelady 24 minutes ago

TW – Greg is the greatest guy ever. He’s as absent minded as they come. Trade off. choicelady 23 minutes ago

Murph – But voters would never know what we know, how bad it was under Trump and the hundreds of thousands of people who died because of his purposeful actions to conceal how bad Covid was. They would only have seen hundreds of thousands dead from Covid, the economy crashed and millions out of work and Repubs would’ve blocked all the help they could hav and piled blame sky-high on Hillary. No one is thanking Biden for all he’s done to help the country over Covid, no one would be heaping praise on Hillary for limiting Covid deaths. She would have lost and Trump could’ve been bound for two terms, after rigging things during his first term. This is the way it had to happen to have a hope of stopping the end of our democracy…and we’re not quite there yet! AdLib 22 minutes ago

CL well that’s why we try to marry women who are smarter than we are, because we’re all a bit daff. twilson117 22 minutes ago

TW – what a lovely thing to say! I am pretty organized. But not well enough, apparently. Oh, well. choicelady 21 minutes ago

CL – Great point about the America Firsters against FDR. You know about Smedley Butler stopping the coup against FDR headed up by the corporate monopolists back then, right? AdLib 21 minutes ago

That’s where America First went wrong – they tried to enlist an actual patriot. He was NOT having it. But no one ever held the plotters to account, and here we are. choicelady 20 minutes ago

CL – We’ve discussed your grandmother before, she’s a hero to me. AdLib 20 minutes ago

CL…pretty clear that grandmother’s blood flows freely through you. MurphTheSurf3 20 minutes ago

TW – You said it! Marry up, guys! AdLib 20 minutes ago

Did you see where one of the most violent guys wants all his hate blogs removed from evidence in his trial? Right. Sure. Judge not buying it. choicelady 19 minutes ago

Do any of you know Antsy McLain’s “I Married Up”? It’s a GREAT and funny song. He founded the “Trailerpark Troubadours” one of my fave groups. choicelady 19 minutes ago

Ad…the thing is that I remain unsure what voters have really learned for 4 years of Trump malfeasance. MurphTheSurf3 18 minutes ago

That song is on YouTube if you want to listen. It’s good fun. And every woman at his shows loves it. choicelady 18 minutes ago

CL – Yes, that’s the point, Butler exposed them and prevented the coup but they got away with attempting it. This is why Trump MUST be prosecuted and convicted for the obvious de facto crimes (and more) that he committed. Otherwise, it is a slam dunk that the GOP will complete their coup eventually since they see there is no price to pay for pursuing it. AdLib 18 minutes ago

Murph – I think the big takeaway is that being a racist isn’t enough. You also have to be loyal to America. choicelady 18 minutes ago

CL…yes. MurphTheSurf3 17 minutes ago

Ad – Totally agree. I KNOW, give prosecution of the AG and Veep, that had Ford not pardoned Nixon we WOULD have prosecuted him. We have that capacity today. And nobody is going to pardon Trump. choicelady 17 minutes ago

CL – Yes, I saw that and it would be funny for it’s incredible stupidity if it wasn’t so serious. “Your honor, it’s unfair to use my words against me!” isn’t the genius move he thinks it is. AdLib 16 minutes ago

CL – Don’t know the song but will check it out! AdLib 16 minutes ago

Ad – no, that’s not a successful strategy! choicelady 16 minutes ago

Antsy is delightful. He is to trailerpark denizens what Garrison Keiler was to Lake Woebegone. choicelady 15 minutes ago

Murph – FWIW, the polls are showing that protecting democracy is one of the top issues in voters’ minds so I think people are getting that Trump stealing nuclear secrets is a bad thing. AdLib 15 minutes ago

Ad – agree choicelady 15 minutes ago

In our world there is such a thing as “a bridge too far” in politics. Trump has collapsed it. choicelady 14 minutes ago

What do you all think about the DOJ response to the judge who granted Trump his special master. I read it, I’m not a lawyer, and have read my share of law journal articles and this brief was like reading a well written work of art. twilson117 14 minutes ago

CL – Agreed on Ford helping cause these problems by pardoning Nixon. And I do think a Repub president could very possibly pardon Trump. Pandering to the RW base like that would only be good for re-election. AdLib 13 minutes ago

TW – not only is the response to the FL 5th judge outstanding, but the shift in venue to DC because the docs are now in DC, is also freaking brilliant. They have her roped and hogtied. She made dump assertions. They finessed the whole thing. choicelady 13 minutes ago

Ad – down the road of course a GOP president could pardon him. I seriously think he will be dead before that occurs. choicelady 12 minutes ago

Here in Missouri….when gas spiked at $5 a gallon……stickers of Biden pointing at the price with the words “I did that” appeared all over pumps everywhere…..now with prices falling $3 a gallon and going down, the price does not matter. The selective choice of data that only reflects your prejudices makes it hard for the truth to break through. MurphTheSurf3 12 minutes ago

CL I agree. I saw where she gave the Trump lawyers till Monday to respond. twilson117 11 minutes ago

Murph – someone posted on Twitter that you will never convince the cult with facts. We can only outvote them’ choicelady 11 minutes ago

CL…..outvote them and then marginalize them. MurphTheSurf3 11 minutes ago

TW – Trump’s “lawyers” are dumb as three bricks lined up. This won’t go well for Trump. choicelady 11 minutes ago

CL – Well said! The DoJ response really painted that nutjob judge in a corner now and have given her an offramp. But being a RW nutter, she may stay defiant. I am pretty confident the 11th District will knock her ruling on the classified info out though, even though they’re a majority of Repubs. AdLib 11 minutes ago

Murph – yes choicelady 10 minutes ago

I have no worries about the 11th. She is going to be tarred by her stupidity. choicelady 10 minutes ago

CL – I love the picture you’re painting of Trump spending the rest of his life in prison. I’d vote for it. AdLib 10 minutes ago

Isn’t the Scotus Justice assigned to supervise the 11th Clarence Thomas? MurphTheSurf3 9 minutes ago

Murph – I hope those Biden stickers are still on some pumps for an “I did that” next to $3/gallon. AdLib 9 minutes ago

All, do you think this crop of Trump lawyers got paid up front? twilson117 9 minutes ago

Ad…the stickers are gone. MurphTheSurf3 8 minutes ago

CL – that’s been my view for a long time, don’t waste energy on trying to change the mind of MAGA cultists, it’s futile. Spend energy and resources on bringing out voters who are on our side which is a majority. Much more effective use of time and energy. AdLib 7 minutes ago

Murph of course the stickers are gone they don’t want to give Biden credit for anything, what they don’t realize by taking them down they gave him credit for the price coming down. twilson117 7 minutes ago

TW…if those attorneys were smart they you have demanded massive retainers and then tied performance to regular payments. MurphTheSurf3 7 minutes ago

Folks – I am going to have to go. I am responsible for transmitting a document to an attorney but have no idea HOW. So I have to learn how to use my printer as a scanner. There are only so many brain cells left. This commands my entire attention. Good night to y’all. I won’t likely be here Friday since we are coming home from Ashland. But should be here in two weeks. Have a grand time, a good cool down, and happy new Fall. choicelady 7 minutes ago

Murph it they were smart they would have ran in the other direction when they saw Trump coming their way. twilson117 6 minutes ago

I put my money on CL to solve ANY problem. MurphTheSurf3 6 minutes ago

Murph – Yep, the 11th is supervised by Thomas but only if an appeal comes after the 11th rules. And SCOTUS better think long and hard about making an unconstitutional decision when Dems could win bigger control and come down on them. AdLib 5 minutes ago

Murph – Of course, the stickers are gone now but they remember they were there then disappeared. Passive admission that Biden helped the country. AdLib 5 minutes ago

Yep, CL gets it done. AdLib 4 minutes ago

I actually think it’s a race between GA and the DoJ indicting Trump. GA may nail him first…and a ton more people in a RICO prosecution. AdLib 3 minutes ago

All of those scenarioes seem plausible. MurphTheSurf3 2 minutes ago

Ad agree with you on that. twilson117 2 minutes ago

The DoJ has the clear evidence already of Trump stealing classified docs and obstructing justice by lying about having them. They have a bigger case to flesh out, to prove if they can that Trump ghave national secrets to other paries. I think they’ll be able to prove that and that will demand Trump be convicted and imprisoned. GA doesn’t have as big and complicated y indict first. AdLib a minute ago

Well guys I’m going to call it a night see next week. twilson117 a minute ago

Sounds good, TW! Have a great weekend! AdLib a few seconds ago