Vox Populi, our weekly live chat about the week’s events begins tonight at 7:00pm PDT. Hope to see you then! AdLib 2 hours ago

Don’t forget to say, “Espionage Act” when you arrive! AdLib 2 hours ago

Hmm…is everyone out drinking and celebrating tonight that Trump will be prosecuted under the Espionage Act? AdLib an hour ago

Hello – Espionage Act. You’d think I purloined the secrets the time it takes to get logged in! choicelady an hour ago

Well, Ad – this is very weird. Glad to see you. Can you see me? choicelady an hour ago

Hey CL! Did you use the nuclear codes to login? AdLib an hour ago

Yes, I can see you. Can you see my replies? AdLib an hour ago

Must have done. It took forever, and then nobody but you is here. What happened? choicelady an hour ago

Yes. All is well. choicelady an hour ago

Maybe others had trouble logging in? AdLib an hour ago

So…Trump must be prosecuted now, full stop. AdLib an hour ago

Could be. It wasn’t AS bad as sometimes, but you have a VERY suspicious log in system. choicelady an hour ago

Heh! We’ve had our share of bot attacks, definitely some from Russia. AdLib an hour ago

Well – as far as prosecution, the issue before the DOJ is – what did he take, what’s MISSING, and what can they prove about where it went and to whom. choicelady an hour ago

Yikes – are we under assault from bots tonight? choicelady an hour ago

Right, the exact charges depend on what they can prove he’s done with the secret docs but just the act of withholding docs was illegal and violated the Espionage Act. AdLib an hour ago

I do not think Merrick Garland would have signed off JUST to get the boxes back. Something’s afoot, Watson. choicelady an hour ago

Trump has factually admitted that he committed this crime. AdLib an hour ago

And the joke is – HE made it a felony. HAH! choicelady an hour ago

He figured he’d hang Hillary on changing the law to a felony, but she never had ANY classified materials and sure didn’t take them to upstate NY. HE did it. HE is guilty, prima facie, of violating HIS OWN LAW. choicelady an hour ago

Right, I think Trump’s using everything to put money in his pocket makes it obvious, he had that top secret info to sell or trade for…say…2 billion to Jared and 1 billion to Manuchin and who knows how many billion to Trump through his golf course laundering. AdLib an hour ago

I’m pretty convinced the $2.2 B from the Saudis has origins in one of those boxes. choicelady an hour ago

MURPH!!! You got by the gatekeeper looking for those committing espionage! choicelady an hour ago

That is pretty amusing! And the party of “Lock her up!” is now saying that Repubs should all be above the law or it is Nazis kicking in doors. AdLib an hour ago

Hey Murph! AdLib an hour ago

It took a half hour but here I am…..sent you both a message via e mail….saying I was at the window staring at the little party. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Murph – So sorry!!! AdLib an hour ago

Oh, Murph – I envision you like the Poor Little Match Girl, nose up against the window looking in. I’m so sorry. choicelady an hour ago

Funny you mention “Lock her up”…..at a meeting today, democratic activists someone began a “Lock him up” chant. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Ad…not your problem…access is always a bit tricky…just part of the landscape. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Murph – of course they did! Feels delicious to have the shoe on OUR foot. HRC never did a thing wrong. This bozo committed possible treason. choicelady an hour ago

CL…quite the image…me as a match girl……HAH! MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Well, it sounded so sad. choicelady an hour ago

CL…and yet the GOP have no problem bring Hilary up as an indicted conspirator who they will investigate AGAIN when they get back into power. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Murph – Everything with Trump is projection, of course since he made “Lock her up!” a big part of his campaign, it was him that needed to be locked up. Remember, Michael Flynn doing the same before he was convicted? AdLib an hour ago

Since I have NO idea what you look like, I can envision you as 6’4, muscular, beareded, and the dead opposite of the Match Girl and STILL be sad you couldn’t get in. choicelady an hour ago

Ad…interesting….your scorn of others reveals self loathing! MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

I do not think the GOP will win either house. choicelady an hour ago

CL….actually, I am a chiseled, bronzed, olympian god! Think of Hercules, only cuter. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

CL – Remember how Trump was trying to sneakily get nuke secrets to Saudi Arabia while president but the scheme was exposed? I think that is very likely at the root of why he stole those nuke docs, to give to the Saudis and cash in with billions. AdLib an hour ago

Murph – LOL – hardly Ad’s problem. Have you met him? I have. Most delightfully confident person I’ve known in many a year. choicelady an hour ago

Murph – I can buy that. choicelady an hour ago

I always imagined that Murph wore a red cape. AdLib an hour ago

Ad – I agree. choicelady an hour ago

Ad….that cape is my baby blanket….Waaaaaah! MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Ad – I can see Murph in a red cape only not while farming. Would be risky. choicelady an hour ago

Murph – But there ain’t milk in that bottle. AdLib an hour ago

Old babies drink whiskey. Everyone knows that. choicelady an hour ago

CL – Definitely don’t want that cape getting caught in the tractor. AdLib an hour ago

I always presumed that Ad was a rather quiet, diffident sort…….and that this site was his Hyde in response to his normal Jekkyl MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Hell no! choicelady an hour ago

Well, I’ve never seen a bifurcation in his personality. He’s kind of the same offscreen and in real life. choicelady an hour ago

Side note…VERY CLEAR THAT TRUDY BUSCH VALENTINE IS A SPOILER….She held a town hall and only those specifically invited could come….obviously I and my fellow companions were not on the guest list. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Heh! I’m more Jekyll and Jekyll. AdLib an hour ago

CL…actually I have encourntered Ad on the phone and in video chat so I concur. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Murph – MO has gone nuts. I used to think it was a pretty cool place, but these days? Nut job land. choicelady an hour ago

Ad – just so you’re not Heckle and Jeckle. Never did like them. choicelady an hour ago

CL I work closely with Mercy Hospital Systems here in Mo. and there is a lot of concern about how Mo. law is seeking to hem in the decision making of medical providers. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

I know everyone was pissed at Claire for courting the white dumbass vote, but frankly in my eyes she can do no wrong anymore. choicelady an hour ago

Murph – Trust your instincts. Busch is a spoiler, an elitist who stalked to keep the status quo. My only question is why Dems voted for her or did Repubs flip over as Dems to elect her? AdLib an hour ago

CL..did you know that Heckle and Jeckle were black stereotypes drawn from minstrel shows. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

CL – I may be more Huckleberry Hound. AdLib an hour ago

I’ve been paying attention to MO and women’s health. Used ot work for Planned Parenthood’s Ca state office and got to know people in MO. I am fearful for all of them and the women of MO. choicelady an hour ago

Ad…voters are, by and large sheeple…..sorry but it is true. She had more money for more ads on tv, radio and in print. She also had a very professional (i.e. hired) Get Out the Vote effort. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Murph – yes I did, and even though at age 7 I did not know that, I didn’t like them because they felt ‘wrong’. choicelady an hour ago

Ad – sort of like Huckleberry. Sir, you are no Huckleberry! You have no equivalent, BTW.\ choicelady an hour ago

Murph – Well…in better informed voter areas, like here in LA, a hugely self-funded billionaire Repub turned phony Dem still got beaten vote-wise in the primary by Karen Bass who spent far less. AdLib an hour ago

CL…women here are increasingly angry….last night at one of better restaurants in St. Louis four women turned over a table onto their husbands as the dramatic conclusion to an argument on the assault of women”s freedom. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Murph – so please tell me is Valentine actually a GOP caping as a Dem? choicelady an hour ago

CL – Thank you! You are a sweetheart! AdLib an hour ago

LYSISTRATA LIVES! That must have been something to see! choicelady an hour ago

Ad….you also benefit by having a critical mass of dems to promote that reality. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Murph – That is amazing! Too bad they don’t have a real Dem to vote for in the Senate race. AdLib an hour ago

CL…I do not know…there is nothing in her history to make the argument either way except that she has been socialite do gooder. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

I am sick of the pretenses by the RW posing as liberals then screwing people to the ground. choicelady an hour ago

The words, “socialite dogooder” give me raised hackles. choicelady an hour ago

CL….I have only heard her once in person …… pre-candidacy….and I did not think much of her at all. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Murph – Pity. MO needs someone better. And NOT Cori. Ick. choicelady an hour ago

Oh…I so want Lady Lindsay G. and Ruder Giuliana to be indicted in GA. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Murph – from your lips to God’s ear!!! Or the AG’s ear, maybe better. choicelady an hour ago

CL…Cori is an opportunist and black community leadership is in bed with her. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Yes, that does make a big difference, when a strong Dem majority and sensibility already exusts. Rick Caruso looks and sounds like a wealthy, Repub elitist. He had all the video of the premediated “charity work” and “kindness to PoC” and his ads were incessant, I saw them on MSNBC every day, multiple times. He still got smacked down in the primary, most voters were like me, we can see the cynical game these types play and we said no. AdLib an hour ago

Murph – pity. She’s awful. When Black women give you the side eye, you ain’t much. choicelady an hour ago

Murph – Absolutely, Lindsey should be indicted for defying a subpoena! AdLib an hour ago

Ad…you also have enough of a critical media in your neck of the woods. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Murph – not as much good media as you’d think. choicelady an hour ago

Cori Bush? She’s a dem Boebert. AdLib an hour ago

You both know that Lindsey is gay……he produces his “fiancee” for every campaign. Hypocrite through and through. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Ad – BAM! summed it up perfectly! choicelady an hour ago

Ad…Dem Boebert. Fits. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

CL….media overall is the property of the powerful. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Murph – Not really the media, just a more diverse population that is not accustommed to believing billionaires want what’s best for them…suddenly, when running to gain power. AdLib an hour ago

Murph – I’ve been a ‘beard’ for friends back in the day. But HE isn’t worthy of it. He hates gay rights but exercises them for himself. I’m sick of his hypocrisy. choicelady an hour ago

So…is Trump going to be prosecuted? What do you think the odds are? AdLib an hour ago

Murph – all too true. choicelady an hour ago

CL…and he has paid off a lot of people. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

CL as a “beard” ….. will at least you probably did it for good re a sons. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

And Graham should also be pursued criminally for election fraud in GA due to his call. If the DA does go after a RICO charge, Lindsey is in huge trouble. AdLib an hour ago

Ad – I think there are now TWO different sets of charges. They involve different bodies of law, so yeah – he’s going to be prosecuted FIRST for espionage THEN for whatever is fitting the overthrow of the election. Sedition probably. Both are life sentences. choicelady an hour ago

You know that Lindsay was in the military. The cute expression applied to his was: “No need to ask. Just look at his “tell”! MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

CL….I just want him on trial…preferably one involving fire. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

CL – It would never happen to an ex-president but the ultimate penalty for treason is death. Kind of ironic Trump also brought back the federal death penalty. AdLib an hour ago

Murph – this was in the 70s, and it was, for some, essential. The man was a dear friend, we double dated, I had a blast, and I knew perfectly well what was whatm but I loved him dearly. I am glad that at that time I could protect him. choicelady an hour ago

Murph – I think you will get your wish. choicelady an hour ago

CL…honest always. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Well, he weaponized a number of laws that now apply to him, so… choicelady an hour ago

CL – it is ironic how Trump may have fashioned cudgels that will beat him to a pulp MurphTheSurf3 44 minutes ago

CL – The FBI has Trump dead to rights on violating all of the charges in the warrant. And the overthrow of the election charges look to be bolstered pretty strongly. It just seems that it will all come crashing down on him together and together, they paint a picture of a traitorous and treasonous monster. AdLib 44 minutes ago

Murph – you live by the sword, you die by it. Could not happen to a more deserving fascist. choicelady 44 minutes ago

And we haven’t even mentioned yet the nearing indictment of Trump in GA! AdLib 44 minutes ago

One thing that I think is going to happen is that Trump will face a wave of betrayals from his inner circle and the pressure will accelerate. MurphTheSurf3 43 minutes ago

And the civil trial coming in NY to devastate and ebven end his company. AdLib 43 minutes ago

Because there are two bodies of law – sedition and the election, and then espionage and foreign treason, he will have TWO trials. These don’t go together as mere charges in one indictment. This is going to be fun! choicelady 43 minutes ago

And E. Jean Caroll’s case against him is in Feb, barring a judge ending the case because Trump slandered her while president. AdLib 42 minutes ago

NY civil, possibly revived criminal, GA, Two federal – the man is toast. Bets on whether he cuts and runs to a place with no extradition – such as HUNGARY? choicelady 42 minutes ago

And multiple civil suits by DC, the Capitol Police, Congresspeople, etc. AdLib 41 minutes ago

This will make you both laugh…..Three nights ago, from my back porch about five miles distant I could see a HUGE tongue of flame leaping into the sky and then fanned out. There were explosions. I could here fire trucks and other Emergency Response coming in all directions. What happened? A MILITIA GROUP set fire to their own ammo bunker and the entire compound went up….no one hurt…today they are spreading the word that they were attacked by Entifa MurphTheSurf3 41 minutes ago

Ad – no judge will bar Carroll now. Garland took up Trump’s phony “immunity” issue and LOST. That was to free her to sue, and nothing blocks her way. choicelady 41 minutes ago

I expect that Trump’s legal woes will mount day by day by day. MurphTheSurf3 40 minutes ago

OMG Murph – that is hilarious! No, Antifa isn’t a thing and doesn’t give a damn about Rambo wannabes. They are literally their OWN worst enemies! choicelady 40 minutes ago

Murph – Absolutely, as the Trumptanic sinks, so many people close to him will rush to the lifeboats that Garland will provide. Even Ivanka, I’ll bet! She’s learned from him, self-preservation “trumps” loyalty. AdLib 39 minutes ago

There are rumors, Ad, that the mole in the WH is Ivanka. I would not dispute that. choicelady 39 minutes ago

CL…my understanding is that 20 or so of them were drunk and started a bonfire 30 feet away from the bunker;s front door…..it caught fire and the whole thing went up. A Fire Marshall I know says that $50,000 in guns and ammo went up. MurphTheSurf3 38 minutes ago

CL…I think it is the team of Ivanka and Barron. MurphTheSurf3 38 minutes ago

Murph – so much for the Civil War. choicelady 38 minutes ago

Murph – That is hilarious and I’m glad no one got hurt but who would believe there is an army of PoC marching through MO attacking militias in the name of Antifa! AdLib 38 minutes ago

Ad….you see that is how sneaky those Antifa folk are… MurphTheSurf3 37 minutes ago

CL – Really? I heard that the court date was set but the judge hasn’t ruled on Garland’s motion yet. AdLib 37 minutes ago

Murph – I don’t think Barron is OK. I think he’s probably on the spectrum, and not at all interested in politics. But Ivanka? Totally into herself and survival. choicelady 37 minutes ago

Ad – No. I don’t mean to imply I know. This is my assessment. choicelady 36 minutes ago

CL – I don’t think Ivanka is the mole, she’d be getting herself and Jared into trouble because of the Saudis. I think a Secret Service agent or two who’ve been guarding Trump finally couldn’t live with helping him betray America. AdLib 36 minutes ago

Isn’t Antifa all white people fighting fascism? How will the MO Rambos explain nobody seeing them? choicelady 35 minutes ago

CL…he is on the spectrum but he his ls also a good athlete, a fine student and a true hater of “daddy”. He told his school’s newspaper that when he reaches legal age he is going to court and changing his last name. He will not be seen in the company of his sperm donor. MurphTheSurf3 35 minutes ago

Ad – that is quite plausible. Not all the USSS is corrupt. choicelady 35 minutes ago

Murph – I did NOT know that about Barron! choicelady 35 minutes ago

Murph – It still amazes me that idiots like this somehow earn the money to donate billions to trump and buy %50k worth of guns. AdLib 34 minutes ago

Ad – the people who follow Trump are not the dead poor. They are the middle management types who made it and are terrified (wrongly) that POC will take over their jobs and incomes. choicelady 33 minutes ago

CL – I’ve seen many PoC in Antifa marches along with very white groups. Younger people mainly, of color or white. AdLib 33 minutes ago

One very good thing about the fire at the Militia Compound is that it has made the who group a big joke. Some put up two MAGA flags outside the entrance but hung upside down which is the international signal for distress. MurphTheSurf3 33 minutes ago

I think the POC are BLM and the white people are Antifa. So far as I’ve seen which isn’t much to be fair. choicelady 33 minutes ago

Murph – that’s equally hilarious! Nothing deflates extremists faster than being mocked. choicelady 32 minutes ago

Well, OK – I’m white and marched with BLM. Who the hell knows? choicelady 32 minutes ago

Ad…there are some fat cats who are true believers but most are just snarky users MurphTheSurf3 32 minutes ago

CL – I get it but still, how stupid are these people? How do they hold down a middle management job when they are devoid of reason and logic? Is it just that they’re surrounded by many like them so it’s normalized? I would never hire or trust a worker who was a MAGA fanatic. AdLib 31 minutes ago

Ad – these are the used car sales people. There’s nothing to HOLD down. choicelady 31 minutes ago

CL – Now that I can see, used car salesmen, plumbers, construction workers, blue collar jobs that wouldn’t be jeapordized by not having a lick of reason. AdLib 30 minutes ago

Ad…..I have someone who I have hired in the past to do special work on my property…..he is a Magot…..I hold my nose every time he is on my property. MurphTheSurf3 30 minutes ago

Ad – one of the most interesting sidebars to modern life is the rise of people who vet other people for jobs to find OUT what they believe. They go on social media looking for exactly this stuff. MAGA, Antifa, etc. choicelady 29 minutes ago

Ad – mostly, yes. They have money enough for AR-15s and other gear. And they eat well. Don’t call them “Meal Team Six” for nothing. choicelady 29 minutes ago

CL…I had no idea that was a “thing” now…. MurphTheSurf3 29 minutes ago

Murph – Yup. Emplyers are very wary of people who have any kind of extremist presence on social media. choicelady 28 minutes ago

As for the Civil War rumbling, I kind of resent the MSM pundits who are acting fearful and trembling about how agitated these nutjobs are. People in the media should evoke being principled and brave to stand up against fascists, not spread fear. Can you imagine FDR saying, “We have everything to fear, including fear itself! I’ll race you to hiding under the bed!” AdLib 28 minutes ago

Murph – I know it can’t be comfortable to have one of those nutjobs on your land. AdLib 27 minutes ago

Ad – EXACTLY. If we did have an uprising, it would be so few in any given area the Guard would swat them like flies. There is no sectoral cohesion. You just cannot fight a civil war with 200 in MO, 45 in MT, 27 in Utah. etc. choicelady 27 minutes ago

CL – That is very interesting. I think it is pretty necessary nowadays due to the problems that such hateful people could cause, even unrelated to politics. AdLib 26 minutes ago

CL – Yes, love that Meal Team Six! AdLib 25 minutes ago

AND…one last thing from me….a family in my neck of the woods is now hosting a large Afghani family. The son of the family was a Marine in Afghanistan and has been working to get the families of the three interpreters who worked with his unit our of there with their families. My association is donating to them. MurphTheSurf3 25 minutes ago

The greatest threats to us are targeted hits on individuals, maybe small groups. That scares the living daylights out of me. choicelady 25 minutes ago

Oh, Murph – that is WONDERFUL!!! choicelady 24 minutes ago

Please let them be safe there. PLEASE! choicelady 24 minutes ago

CL – Yes! ALl this “civil war” BS will bring about are lone wolf attacks for the most part, like the moron and madman who thought he figured out how to break the FBI’s bulletproof glass with a nail gun then got himself killed. AdLib 24 minutes ago

I want to also recommend this article to you both… https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/08/09/social-media-cracker-barrel-controversy-ignore/ MurphTheSurf3 24 minutes ago

Murph – That is very cool! AdLib 23 minutes ago

Ad – the bad news is they are horrific. The good news is that they are incredibly stupid. choicelady 23 minutes ago

The article is from Washington Post and titled: “What Cracker Barrel can teach us about how to deal with social media cranks” VERY INSIGHTFUL. MurphTheSurf3 23 minutes ago

CL – Yes, I think that, as part of the job in tamping down this MAGA fascism, federal rules need to be applied to social media and a crackdown on militias is needed. AdLib 22 minutes ago

I saved it, Murph, and will read it. choicelady 22 minutes ago

CL….the safety fears are real but this Marine and his friends have made it clear that these folks are their family now…..pick on them and you bought yourself a whole lot of bad trouble. MurphTheSurf3 21 minutes ago

Those are all issues under discussion in every federal jurisdiction in the country. choicelady 21 minutes ago

Murph – I thought Cracker Barrel is where you find those cranks? AdLib 21 minutes ago

Murph – I’d not truck with the Marine!!! choicelady 21 minutes ago

Ad…yes, very cool….gives me a bit of hope….my neighbors are, on a personal level, very good people but their politics poisons their minds and blackens their hearts. MurphTheSurf3 20 minutes ago

Murph – They have such great hearts to take in and protect them. But everyone in MO should feel upset at the fact that there are people in their state that make fear of violence a norm. AdLib 20 minutes ago

Ad….that is part of that story. MurphTheSurf3 20 minutes ago

Ad…..yes, but this is a very Hatfields/McCoys environment. MurphTheSurf3 19 minutes ago

Murph – I think your neighbors will have to rething your OTHER neighbor’s stand on the Afghan refugees. Like changes like. And this could be very important in your community. choicelady 19 minutes ago

I understand, Murph. Not all who follow MAGA are hateful nutjobs. There are also many otherwise kind and considerate people who are racist but would never act on it. But that’s why the concept of shame is so important, once Trump obliterated it, it freed so much horribleness in his followers, they are grateful to him for that. Just shameful. AdLib 18 minutes ago

CL….a leavening effect….I believe that is possible especially because the plan is to have the families settle here…all farming families AND my association has extended an invitation to them to join us….and if they do maybe that Marine’s family will do the same. THE CO-OP MAY HAVE ANOTHER RENDITION. MurphTheSurf3 17 minutes ago

My grandfather was from Albany, Gentry Co. He was well educated, an English lit professor, and a fascist. Literally. He married my suffragette grandmother, born in Memphis but from IL people who were abolitionists. Let’s just say the marriage wasn’t made in heaven. They separated before I was born. He was racist, anti Semitic, every bad damned thing AND an America First enthusiast. choicelady 17 minutes ago

AD…..I will share your insight about the impact of a loss of shame with some who need to hear it. MurphTheSurf3 17 minutes ago

Well…you heard about Salman Rushdie, such a horrible thing. Hateful people are always going to be around us and a threat to innocent people. We just need to scare the hell out of many of them to lessen their numbers. AdLib 16 minutes ago

Murp[h – Alllll riiiiiight! choicelady 16 minutes ago

Murph – That is fantastic news! AdLib 16 minutes ago

CL…..an amazing background story….and a reminder that crazies are part of our lives MurphTheSurf3 16 minutes ago

Ad – I did hear, and it was too close to my old stomping grounds. Chatauqua??? Who stabs people at Chatauqua? He was taken to Erie, PA NOT the best trauma hospital, so I have hopes for his survival but wish he’d gone to Buffalo where there are better trauma centers. choicelady 15 minutes ago

CL – Glad that she got out of that marriage though, he would have crushed her emotionally if she had stayed. AdLib 15 minutes ago

I had dinner with Rushdie many years past when he was a speaker at my university……I have rarely been so impressed….he spend the day before and the day after his speaker’s forum presentation just chatting with students. MurphTheSurf3 14 minutes ago

Ad – She found out he was who he was early on, went back to college, got a MA and worked through the Depression to have her own base. I do believe the novel, “Stoner” is about him though it flipped the “victim” role to HIM when my grandfather was in fact also an adulterer. But of all my earliest memories, two are of him. I loved him because I had no clue. He died when i was 3. Strange experiences. choicelady 12 minutes ago

My goodness…we three can really fill up a forum…. MurphTheSurf3 12 minutes ago

Murph – I really hope he survives this awful thing. Have you heard who did it? I am assuming someone following the fatwa, but in this day and age – could be ANYONE. choicelady 12 minutes ago

CL – Didn’t know that about Erie, that’s too bad. I read that his publicist said he’s in very bad shape, probably lose an eye, liver was stabbed, neck stabbed and nerve loss in arm. Poor man, he is so amazing. Then you have the story of Anne Heche who was loaded on coke and vodka allegedly and slammed into a house at 80 MPH and died tonight. I feel horrible for Rushdie, I can’t feel so upset for Heche, she nearly killed other innocent people in her selfishness and lack of concern for others. AdLib 12 minutes ago

CL….a very rich experience…..even though it was horrifying. MurphTheSurf3 12 minutes ago

Murph – we are on FIRE. Not like the ammo dump. choicelady 11 minutes ago

CL……The Planet is On Fire! As in “ablaze with zeal”! MurphTheSurf3 11 minutes ago

Ad – I’m with you on both Rushdie and Heche. Too much to take in, but he did nothing to deserve this. She did what she did. choicelady 10 minutes ago

Murph – You are so lucky to have been able to spend that time with him. I think he is brilliant and brave and I am also upset at the lazy security at that event. Where the hell were they? Because he hadn’t been attacked yet, they assumed they didn’t need to be alert and just took the paycheck. Awful. AdLib 10 minutes ago

On these heady notes….I think I must head to bed….it SO fun and SO enlightening to spend time with you all each week. MurphTheSurf3 10 minutes ago

I’m bugging out, too. Good night, Murph, and good night Ad – this was a ton of fun! Miss everyone else, but it was a delight. See you I hope next week! Hugs to you both. choicelady 9 minutes ago

Ad…..Rushdie spent 90 minutes in a student dining room discussing questions of modern Muslim belief and necessity of transforming faith through the lens of humanism. There must have been 100 students there. MurphTheSurf3 8 minutes ago

CL – That is an amazing story. I can see some of your grandmother in you, being principled, self-motivated and not accepting what’s unjust. AdLib 7 minutes ago

Murph – That must have been so meaningful. I wish I could’ve had that experience. I’m just hoping so strongly that he pulls through but I am also so angry that the hateful finally won with him. AdLib 6 minutes ago

Ad….I also had an interesting conversation with a former colleague a “Sovietologist” historian. He had a lot to say about what the Ukraine War is going to be to Russia….a crucible. MurphTheSurf3 6 minutes ago

Ad….I just sent flowers……signed it as a gift from my former school and my colleagues. MurphTheSurf3 5 minutes ago

Murph – Interesting. The economics of the war hasn’t pounded the Russians hard enough for them to stop supporting the war, one article I read said they are actually glad because the world is seeing that you can’t push Russians around. That victim mentality is so corrosive. AdLib 4 minutes ago

To Rushdie? That was so thoughtful! AdLib 4 minutes ago

He is a hero to me. AdLib 3 minutes ago

And there aren’t that many out there. AdLib 3 minutes ago

Though Garland is working hard to get on my list and odds are looking good. AdLib 3 minutes ago

My friend is Russian born and has spent a lot of time there and has many friends and colleagues……he says that the failure of the war to deliver has undermined a lot of the confidence that people have had in the iron fisted rule of Putin. MurphTheSurf3 3 minutes ago

Yes…..to Rushdie. MurphTheSurf3 2 minutes ago

Well…time for me to head to bed. Good being with you. MurphTheSurf3 2 minutes ago

Hmm…that may be the stage most Russians are at now but the next stage will be the more determinative, when the economy pounds them much harder. I understand the gov’t is expecting having to make up for losses by adding 20% across the board to their national budgets. Unsustainable, especially with oil prices sinking. AdLib a few seconds ago

Sounds good, get some rest and say hi to your new neighbors for me and The Planet! AdLib a few seconds ago

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