Vox Populi, our weekly live chat about the week’s events begins at 7:00 pm PT. Hope to see you then!
AdLib2 hours ago
Hey CL!
AdLiban hour ago
Howdy folks!
choicelady
an hour ago
Hey Ad – how are you?
choicelady
an hour ago
Is your young’un home for the break and holiday?
choicelady
an hour ago
Doing well. How about you?
AdLiban hour ago
Yep, she’ll be over on Easter.
AdLiban hour ago
Only a month or so until she’s a college grad!
AdLiban hour ago
We are OK. We did not go to OR – Greg had an antibiotic for an infection in his finger to which he had a HORRID but not life threatening reaction. Been a hard couple of weeks.
choicelady
an hour ago
I can’t believe she is old enough to be a college grad!
choicelady
an hour ago
Surely she’s still only 13…
choicelady
an hour ago
That’s awful! Is he feeling better?
AdLiban hour ago
Finally. They gave him a sulfa drug but after awful reactions, switched to penicillin that worked fine. Not sure why the sulfa. It’s ugly stuff.
choicelady
an hour ago
I know, same here. It’s very surreal to see photos of her at younger ages and think about how long ago that was and she’s all grown up now.
AdLiban hour ago
She is. So what are post grad plans now?
choicelady
an hour ago
I don’t think I ever had sulfa.
AdLiban hour ago
Ad – KEEP it that way. It’s OK for some but a lot of people have very bad reactions. I’m one. Greg’s another.
choicelady
an hour ago
She already has a job offer from the business she’s been interning for so she’lltake a little time off in the Summer then she will officially start her career!
AdLiban hour ago
I assume the business is close to the university?
choicelady
an hour ago
So sulfa the little children?
AdLiban hour ago
IOW – she’ll still be reasonably close to home?
choicelady
an hour ago
Sulfa the children and they will die.
choicelady
an hour ago
No, it’s here in LA. she’s been working over breaks and during this year over the computer.
AdLiban hour ago
If you’re intolerant of sulfa, it’s excruciating.
choicelady
an hour ago
Oh that’s even MORE cool. Will her BF be able to stay local?
choicelady
an hour ago
I don’t know much about it, I’ll researcvh sulfa so I know what it is and the side effects.
AdLiban hour ago
Greg and I both are in the “rare but can occur” column.
choicelady
an hour ago
Yep, her BF has an apartment in town, not so far from us and they’ll be together there so it all works out quite nicely. When she was in Boston, my only concern was that she mat someone out there and would stay. We’d miss her so much in that case. So it worked out.
AdLiban hour ago
So quite a losing week for the Orange Menace, yes?
AdLiban hour ago
I think easterners can stay in CA even missing Boston, but I don’t know a single Californian who can stay in the East. It’s a very different feel. Not just weather. I love them both, miss Boston a lot, but if you didn’t grow up there, it seems weird.
choicelady
an hour ago
The Orange Menace deserves everything he got and didn’t get!
choicelady
an hour ago
I think you’re right but the concern was that she’d meet a guy who was vert cemented in Boston or the East Coast, with family and business there who wouldn’t want to move. Anyway, it’s all good now and her BF is such a great guy. They’re always so happy when we see them, does my heart good.
AdLiban hour ago
That’s grand. She deserves a nice guy in her life! I’m really happy how well things have worked out.
choicelady
an hour ago
Hello everyone
twilson117
an hour ago
TW appears to be in the house!
choicelady
an hour ago
Hey TW- how are you?
choicelady
an hour ago
Let’s see, the Bribery Ballroom was stopped, Bondi was fired, Trump’s primetime speech bombed and made him look terrible, Iran is laughing at Trump, jets shot down today after Trump assured the world Iran had no way to attack planes, Europe has told him to suck eggs, and so much more. He’s now polling in the 30s too, lowest of any president at this point.
AdLiban hour ago
I am here
twilson117
an hour ago
Hey TW!
AdLiban hour ago
All that and Kristi Noem’s husband appears to have kinks even SHE can’t tolerate.
choicelady
an hour ago
Thanks for that CL. It’s always a concern, your child ends up falling for someone you don’t like and just have to grin and bear it and hope she/he wises up before it’s too late. Fortunately, not a problem!
AdLiban hour ago
Why is it that I wish huge gator crawls out of the water and makes Trump its afternoon snake while he is on the back nine
twilson117
an hour ago
That’s super. She always seemed very level headed to me. I actually thought she would not pick someone icky – she has healthy self respect. i’m very happy for her!
choicelady
an hour ago
TW – I think your wish is perfectly logical.
choicelady
an hour ago
Yes, The Noem Domes scandal. Not exactly the Teapot Dome but considering how vicious she’s been towards trans people, it just destroys that nasty hypocrite. And she thought she was going to be president in the next election!
AdLiban hour ago
Except he’d give the gator indigestion.
choicelady
an hour ago
Ad – the delusions of MAGA people never cease to awe me. Not in a good way.
choicelady
an hour ago
CL – Well, you just never know. There are very good people who make poor choices in boyfriends/girlfriends.
AdLiban hour ago
Ad – well one thing for sure: Noem will not be dog catcher in any city, town village in America.
choicelady
an hour ago
Yeah but they eat anything I’m told but you might be right they may have a standard with it comes to Frump
twilson117
an hour ago
TW – Maybe if we convince Trump to cover himself in duck fat, telling him it’s liquid gold, the gators will swarm on him.
AdLiban hour ago
Ad – it can happen, but she was always so measured in her assessments of things I thought she was NOT as gullible as most young women.]
choicelady
an hour ago
TW – gators have their standards.
choicelady
an hour ago
Was listening Glen Kushner postulating that Bondi could be disbarred that would be nice
twilson117
an hour ago
Ad – now that rocks: Trump as a gator buffet!
choicelady
an hour ago
Tw – I think that’s very likely actually. The FL bar apparently never liked her.
choicelady
an hour ago
CL – But the thing about the US planes being shot down by Iran today is that Trump said as recently as yesterday that he’s destroyed all their offensive weaopons and specifically, that they had no anti-aircraft weapons now. Now, MAGA would have to very troubled trying to line that up with the shoot-downs. Their poor little brains just can’t handle it.
AdLiban hour ago
CL – If Noem became Dogcatcher, she’d spend all her stolen money from being at DoJ on ammunition.
AdLiban hour ago
Trump is such a liar that when bad things happen, he has left himself nowhere to weasel out. One pilot was rescued. The other missing, and it is for that pilot I fear. Alone, maybe injured in IRAN??? And Hegseth demanded illegally to “give no quarter”. Well, if that person is captured, they’re in for a horrible time.
choicelady
an hour ago
Have either of you heard if the other fighter pilot shot down over Iran has been located yet?
twilson117
an hour ago
Ad – that’s why even the meanest towns won’t hire her.
choicelady
an hour ago
TW – I read not yet. I hope they find him/her.
choicelady
an hour ago
CL do they sell tickets I would consider buying one and showing up with popcorn
twilson117
an hour ago
Yes, the Florida Bar is now free to pursue her and I think there will be complaints already filed that they will have to respond to. She is a criminal and should at least lose her law license. She should go to prison.
AdLiban hour ago
Trump is so demented he can’t keep up w his own lies.
choicelady
an hour ago
TW – I don’t know about tickets. I’m not in the “Gator Chomp” fan base. Yet.
choicelady
an hour ago
CL – Thanks so much for saying those wonderful things about her. I will share that with her on Sunday.
AdLiban hour ago
Ad – I’d love her to be charged with STATE crimes Trump can’t pardon.
choicelady
an hour ago
Please do, Ad. I think the world of her.
choicelady
an hour ago
Can the public show up for a disbarment hearing I will bring my own popcorn
twilson117
an hour ago
CL – It is a sad state of affairs that I expect Iran’s brutal regime to simply hold an American flier hostage if they find him whereas Hegseth would order an Iranianpilot murdered under his “no quarter”.
AdLiban hour ago
Our niece (of the found family) and her husband have a new house just blocks from the ocean, south of Marina Del Rey. They now have two boys and needed an extra bedroom, so they move tomorrow. I’m sure at some point I will get down there for family stuff so maybe we can rendezvous.
choicelady
an hour ago
Ad – that is what terrifies everyone.
choicelady
an hour ago
CL – I know that and I’m so pleased of how highly you think of her, means a lot to me.
AdLiban hour ago
Hegseth is a cartoon warrior and a war criminal all in one.
choicelady
an hour ago
Ad if they fine him it goes without saying he will be paraded through the streets
twilson117
an hour ago
TW – I hope they can livestream the disbarment of Bondi, they’d make a fortune.
AdLiban hour ago
TW – I misread your post – thought you wanted the gator chomping event ringside. I believe bar events are open to the public, but I don’t actually know.
choicelady
an hour ago
Seriously!
choicelady
an hour ago
CL – That would be fantastic! Would be great to see you down here. Meanwhile, is PPO coming out this Summer?
AdLiban hour ago
Hegseth is the worst kind of former solider there is
twilson117
an hour ago
I’m with you, TW – popcorn and ringside disbarment. Heaven!
choicelady
an hour ago
Ad – no. He is really afraid of what might happen. We were talking about maybe all meeting in Hawaii thinking it was less racist and rw, but I think not.
choicelady
an hour ago
Australia is warning EVERYONE not to travel to the US at all.
choicelady
an hour ago
TW – Hegseth got kicked out of the Guard. You have to be that bad to have that happen.
choicelady
an hour ago
I have a very simple ask for any Dem who wants my vote. Promise to support the US joining the ICC then ship the whole bunch of Trump and his cronies to The Hague, handcuffed like the immigrants they’ve been sending around the world and try them all like Nuremberg.
AdLiban hour ago
CL I like your idea I have quite a few candidates for the gator eating contest Bondi, Kash the ass, of course Trump the Rump, Miller the dimwit, Noem the dome
twilson117
an hour ago
Ad – good ask of any candidate, but they can be shipped to ICC even if we haven’t joined. Just put your twinkle toe outside the USA, and kaboom. Arrested.
choicelady
an hour ago
Hey, I’m always up for meeting in Hawaii. My favorite vacation spot!
AdLiban hour ago
TW – wow a MULTI COURSE gator buffet! Cool!
choicelady
an hour ago
Ad – it sounds as if TSA/ICE/CBP have decided to crack down in Hawaii, so it’s not an option yet.
choicelady
an hour ago
That’s too bad but probably for the best for PPO, I wouldn’t advise anyone from any country to travel to the US right now and for the next 2 1/2 years.
AdLiban hour ago
Ad and TW – I really wanted to go. I’ve never been to Hawaii.
choicelady
an hour ago
Maybe the ICC should make the penalty of conviction, being a buffet for aligators?
AdLiban hour ago
Ad – that’s his feeling about it, and he’s REALLY peeved. He loves SF and resents being unable to go where he’s always been.
choicelady
an hour ago
Ad – I think ICC is non violent, but if not, I’m all for it.
choicelady
an hour ago
CL Hegseth the idiot was kicked out of the National Guard, he had to really work hard for that to happen
twilson117
an hour ago
That sucks about the ICE Gestapo being in Hawaii.
AdLiban hour ago
Tw – he was also banned from Biden’s inauguration for many of the same reasons. He’s a creep.
choicelady
an hour ago
CL – It’s not terribly expensive for the airfare if you plan far enough in advance and there are some reasonable hotels in Hawaii too. It’s such a wonderful place to unwind, recharge, and enjoy. But I’ve always loved the beach.
AdLiban hour ago
Ad and Tw – I’d love to see it. It is pretty in so many different ways.
choicelady
an hour ago
I’ve always wanted to go to HI but that’s not going to happen we’re on our way to OK for granddaughter’s high school graduation and it’s not going to be cheap considering air fair hotel and car rental
twilson117
an hour ago
Our SIL, Greg East’s widow, is on her way home from Florence, Italy. She went with a friend to do a cooking instruction in Rome and a week long art history course, but the friend had a heart attack, so they are almost a week overdue. They are both find now, but we are anxiously awaiting their return.
choicelady
an hour ago
Both FINE
choicelady
an hour ago
TW – I like OK. Where in OK will you be? I think you told me, but I forgot.
choicelady
an hour ago
The thing is, criminals know what to do to evade getting easily caught and if the ICC puts out an indictment of Trump or any of his crime family, they won’t travel to an ICC country. That’s why I want the US to sign on so that being in the US allows the US to arrest and ship out all of these Trump monsters. And I’m assuming that Trump will pardon all of them so they can’t be prosecuted in the US.
AdLib44 minutes ago
TW – Make OK a stop on your trip to Hawaii? 
AdLib44 minutes ago
Well, if he goes to Scotland, he’s toast. There aren’t actually any non ICC nations other than Russia and a few others. It’s not an issue of extradition but “nabbing you” access.
choicelady
43 minutes ago
CL it’s a small town named Panama
twilson117
43 minutes ago
CL – That’s horrible! I’m glad the friend is okay now but how awful!
AdLib42 minutes ago
The ICC couldn’t care less about Trump pardons.
choicelady
42 minutes ago
It’s been hard. The hotels were very expensive, but she has points from all her business travel, so I think, ultimately, it was free.
choicelady
42 minutes ago
CL – That’s my point, pardons are worthless when it comes to the ICC. That’s why I want the US as a signatory, then pardons are irrelevant.
AdLib41 minutes ago
I don’t know if my SIL continued with the course or not. She may have spent all this time in the hospital.
choicelady
41 minutes ago
Ad I would love to do it but I’m not the handling the traveling arrangements it’s being done between my wife and daughter and I like to believe I am smart enough to stay out of their hair and just do what I am supposed to do buy some new clothes and just shut up about the arrangements. 
twilson117
40 minutes ago
Well, the ICC doesn’t need us to be. They prosecute anyone.
choicelady
40 minutes ago
CL – Well, that was at least a good thing but still, you don’t want to be sick, injured, or have a heart attack when you’re away from home in a foreign country.
AdLib40 minutes ago
TW – WISE man!!!
choicelady
40 minutes ago
CL that
twilson117
39 minutes ago
CL – But the ICC can’t bring anyone from the US to them so as long as the US is not a signatory, all of these war criminals are perfectly safe here if pardoned.
AdLib39 minutes ago
Cl that’s debatable
twilson117
39 minutes ago
One tip – they both had emergency insurance not for health coverage (it’s free anyway) but travel interruption. Their rooms and return flights are covered.
choicelady
39 minutes ago
TW – No wonder you’ve lived so long!
AdLib39 minutes ago
Ad – it’s true they can’t come INTO the US to nab someone. But if they set foot in another country – bam.
choicelady
38 minutes ago
There is a method to my madness
twilson117
38 minutes ago
CL – That’s very good to hear! Some credit cards provide travel insurance when you use them to buy plane fares and hotels. Very smart to be prepared like that.
AdLib37 minutes ago
First meeting with hub’s younger brother, he said to my husband, “When it comes to family gatherings, Listen to the women!” Endeared him to me right off.
choicelady
37 minutes ago
CL – I guarantee you, if the ICC indicts Trump and he’s still alive after his term, he will never leave the US.
AdLib36 minutes ago
That is why neither Bush nor Cheyney ever leave the USA. ICC is after them.
choicelady
36 minutes ago
So what do we think about Trump putting ground troops into Iran?
AdLib36 minutes ago
Ad – HORRIBLE!!
choicelady
36 minutes ago
Well, Cheney has left the US…and the land of the living.
AdLib35 minutes ago
CL – Do you think Trump will go through with boots on the ground?
AdLib35 minutes ago
Ad as I wrote it will be major mistake
twilson117
35 minutes ago
Ad – I keep forgetting Cheyney died.
choicelady
35 minutes ago
Where Cheney is being prosecuted now is quite a warm place.
AdLib34 minutes ago
Abandon all hope ye who enter here
twilson117
34 minutes ago
TW – I think it would be awful, but that’s probably why the Yam Man will do it. The firing of so many generals this week was all about their REFUSAL to direct boots on the ground. They gave up their careers to refuse illegal orders.
choicelady
34 minutes ago
Cheyney will get his unearthly rewards yes.
choicelady
33 minutes ago
I can’t even guess with any certainty if Trump will or won’t make this war a greater disaster by trying to prove he’s tough and sending soldiers into Iran. He’s insane and hard to guess what a maniac will do next.
AdLib33 minutes ago
CL it would certainly be major mistake
twilson117
33 minutes ago
It would be a disaster, yes.
choicelady
33 minutes ago
Cheney and Satan are shaking their heads at each other as they look up at Trump, “And they thought we were evil.”
AdLib32 minutes ago
See, I thought Satan had resigned. Couldn’t take the competition from Trump.
choicelady
32 minutes ago
CL Iran has a history that goes back thousands of years
twilson117
32 minutes ago
It’s like quicksand, the deeper you step into war, the harder it is to get out. You can’t get out by trying to go through.
AdLib31 minutes ago
Actually, I saw an article that Satan may be the next AG nominated by Trump.
AdLib31 minutes ago
TW – Trump reads nothing. Everything he does is filtered through his fantasies of being a strong man. He has no clue how entrenched Iran culture and policies are.
choicelady
31 minutes ago
Ad – I didn’t think Satan wanted the job.
choicelady
30 minutes ago
VietNam was bad Iraq was bad Iran would make those two look like a Sunday picnic
twilson117
30 minutes ago
TW – absolutely true.
choicelady
30 minutes ago
Did you see his speech or clips from it/ He sounded far worse than Biden in his terrible debate appearance. Trump is definitely coming apart but the problem is that they all need him to stay as president to keep their power so as I’ve said before, they will just sit back and let him do insane things, kind of a Weekend at Bernie’s presidency is what we’re in and will probably stay in no matter how bad he gets.
AdLib29 minutes ago
Iraq and Iran fought each other for what 8 7 or 8 years
twilson117
29 minutes ago
TW – I believe Iran has remained undefeated for over 1000 years.
choicelady
28 minutes ago
CL – Satan did turn down Trump saying, “I am evil but even I have more self-respect than to be a follow up to Pam Bondi.”
AdLib28 minutes ago
What I fear is that Trump will nuke them.
choicelady
28 minutes ago
Ad – I can see Satan saying that.
choicelady
27 minutes ago
CL the Romans tried and they were the major powerhouse at the time and couldn’t do it because of the terrain and their fighting style gave left them alone
twilson117
26 minutes ago
TW – Yes, Iran and Iraq were at war for about that long. They are not strangers to long wars on their territory and Trump and Hegseth are both tv hosts pretending to be military leaders. This will not turn out well for them or the US.
AdLib26 minutes ago
If the guy we the nuclear codes is smart, he will give Trump the daily Lotto numbers, a dead cell phone to punch them in, and then have an AI video of nuclear catastrophy. He will also say FOX is in on the deal and won’t broadcast if for nat’l security. Trump’s so far gone, he’d buy it.
choicelady
25 minutes ago
Ad – what scares me is how many of our troops will die because of their insanity?
choicelady
25 minutes ago
CL – Yes, that is a worry of mine too. With Hegseth firing all these generals, maybe they will have generals in there to support a “limited” nuke strike in Iran that Trump would order. On the other hand, Trump is drooling over stealing Iran’s oil and if it was irradiated, it would not only be worthless but the price of oil in the US and the world would skyrocket even above where it is now. So I don’t think it’s likely but it is possible if he just gets crazy enough.
AdLib24 minutes ago
Ad you are so right. The thing about all the generals Hegseth has fired understand military history not just US military but foreign countries like Iran and the thing about wars at some point you have to put boots on the ground and that is when it become very problematic
twilson117
23 minutes ago
TW – that’s why he fired so many. The refused to send troops.
choicelady
23 minutes ago
They refused…
choicelady
22 minutes ago
CL for good reasons.
twilson117
22 minutes ago
Hard to know who is left and what they will do.
choicelady
22 minutes ago
CL I mean the generals not wanting to send troops they understood what those men would be facing air power alone doesn’t win wars. Just ask Putin
twilson117
21 minutes ago
TE – Yes, likt Afghanistan. The terrain is full of mountains which are so difficult to invade. And Iran knows now that there can be no deal with the US after Trump bombed them while they were negotiating in good faith. How can they be confident of making any deal with the US again? Trump’s betrayal of NATO and Iran has turned on him now and he’s flailing around like a loser maniac who can’t make anyone do what he wants.
AdLib20 minutes ago
Tw – difference is, Putin coudn’t care less. Neither does Trump.The generals DO.
choicelady
20 minutes ago
Not clear if it’s true, but I saw one French registry ship may have gotten through the Strait today.
choicelady
19 minutes ago
CL yes it’s their staff that have to write the letters
twilson117
19 minutes ago
Well, the generals who are left care about their troops but the ones who are replacements are probably Trump cutists who would do anything they’re told by Hegseth and Trump.
AdLib19 minutes ago
Tw -absolutely. Trump couldn’t care less. Putin didn’t in Ukraine. Now ALL the military cemeteries are full, no place for more bodies.
choicelady
18 minutes ago
Ad – it’s hard to know the chain of command, who they are, what they think.
choicelady
18 minutes ago
CL I didn’t see that about the French ship but those willing to pay the passage fee will get through base on some of the reporting I saw but not one US ship will
twilson117
18 minutes ago
I saw a stat that about 5 ships went through the strait yesterday. The normal pre-war amount was over 100.
AdLib18 minutes ago
Tw that’s my understanding, yes.
choicelady
18 minutes ago
Not one US ship will get through.
choicelady
17 minutes ago
So when do you think Trump will pull out of NATO?
twilson117
17 minutes ago
I will say though, if there is going to be a military coup here in the US to take Trump out of power, his ordering a nuke strike in Iran could sure be the trigger.
AdLib16 minutes ago
TW – of course he can’t do so legally, as if that matters. But he’s been jettisoned by members anyway.
choicelady
16 minutes ago
Ad – that could well be.
choicelady
15 minutes ago
I would guess if they were going to apprehend Trump it would be at Mar a Lago where security is rent a cop.
choicelady
15 minutes ago
Ad if he was to order a Nuke strike It doesn’t just affect Iran
twilson117
14 minutes ago
TW – it affects the world ultimately.
choicelady
13 minutes ago
Hell of a way to fight global warming.
choicelady
13 minutes ago
TW – Legally, Trump can’t pull out of NATO, Congress passed a law saying Congress must agree to that. But that doesn’t mean he won’t de facto withdraw the US from all those NATO bases. Then again, considering he thinks he’s Kang the Conqueror, he probably would want to keep those bases so he could launch attacks anywhere in the world.
AdLib12 minutes ago
Ad – I think he’s trapped himself, painted himself into the proverbial corner. Whatever he does now on will e rancid.
choicelady
11 minutes ago
Yeah do a nuke strike and add some thermonuclear heat along with the wind that part of the world is in big dog dung
twilson117
11 minutes ago
My understanding is that the impact aloft are global – clouds and ice formations that circle the world for months if not years.
choicelady
10 minutes ago
Not to mention the radiation. On the Beach is now real.
choicelady
10 minutes ago
Yes, if Trump was the first madman to use nukes after WW II, he would go down in history right beside Hitler in opening a door to the total destruction of this planet, setting a precedent that Russia would likely follow in Ukraine and the dominos would fall after that…including Israel nuking too.
AdLib10 minutes ago
Good points both of you, the whole ME could become contaminated and the wind would blow it around the world. I don’t know that the remaining generals and officers would sit by and just follow orders to begin a nuke attack.
AdLib6 minutes ago
I always wanted to live to be 100. Doubt I’ll make it.
choicelady
6 minutes ago
Yes and fools like Mike Huckabee see that as the battle of Armageddon and Christ put the devil in the abyss for a thousand years there is a resurrection and after a thousand years of peace the devil is let out and given a do over
twilson117
6 minutes ago
Huck is in for a woeful surprise.
choicelady
5 minutes ago
CL – As much as it is legit to worry about the possibility, I would offer that it is unlikely, Trump is so greedy that the impact of such a world shattering act would break the global economies…including destroying his accumulated wealth. He’s too greedy to risk that.
AdLib4 minutes ago
Huck also thinks that Trump is Jesus. So what Huck thinks deserves no credence.
AdLib4 minutes ago
Well folks it’s been fun but I need to get back to some things I’ve been working on tying up a few loose ends so have a good weekend
twilson117
4 minutes ago
Always thought this the most dismal song. Perfect for how.
choicelady
4 minutes ago
Heh! Good one CL! Have a great Easter weekend!
AdLib3 minutes ago
I need to do the same, TW. Got a ton of stuff left undone tending Greg. It’s amazing how work never just goes away. Happy Easter to those celebrating it. Hugs all around to your loved ones. See you next week I hope. Hoping there IS a next week.
choicelady
2 minutes ago
Good night, gentlemen. A sobering but good conversation!
choicelady
2 minutes ago
Have a great Easter weekend TW!
AdLiba few seconds ago
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