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AdLib2 hours ago
Hey PPO!
AdLib2 hours ago
Hi, ad! Happy New Year.
pinkpantheroz
2 hours ago
Thanks! Happy New Year to you! How’s the new home coming along?
AdLib2 hours ago
You there, PPO?
AdLiban hour ago
Fine, thank you. still have lots of boxes to unpack, but ok with the position and ease of shopping etc.
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
Working currently on dates for July. Pity that July 4 is a Thursday! Will probably book for the following week. Of course I’ll let you know when i lock in the dates.
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
That’s a nice benefit. While there is a lot to be said for having more nature around, I prefer being in town and having so much nearby.
AdLiban hour ago
Hey Murph!
AdLiban hour ago
Murph! Happy New Year.
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
Hello….PPO! and AD!
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
PPO – Please do let me know when you firm up SFO plans, looking forward to it!
AdLiban hour ago
CL!
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
Happy New Year
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
Happy New Year….yes, indeed…I do hope it will be……there is much that is going well and very much that is not….so…..
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
Hey!!! Everyone’s here but TW – this is lovely! Hi, Happy New Year indeed!
choicelady
an hour ago
Hello Chioice
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
Hey Murph! Hi PPO, Ad – this is nice.
choicelady
an hour ago
PPO are you coming in around July 4th again?
choicelady
an hour ago
So Trump sure looks like he only hurt himself in the NY case and will be hammered with hundreds of millions in fines and have his business dissolved, the judgement whould be in before the end of the month. Then he’ll lose the latest E. Jean Carroll suit and owe many millions there too. He is going down.
AdLiban hour ago
Hi CL!
AdLiban hour ago
Ad – LOVE your analysis of Trump’s “shooting himself in the foot, then reloading” spectacle. The bad news is he is vile. The good news is that he is stupid.
choicelady
an hour ago
And the 2nd Circuit looks pretty clearly like its about to bury Trump’s immunity motion so the Jack Smith trial will still probably start in March.
AdLiban hour ago
Cool – March doesn’t have a lot going for it until Spring, so a lovely Trump trial would liven the day.
choicelady
an hour ago
We are heading into subzero temps here tomorrow with single digits for the next several days….prep for this has worn me down so I do not know how long I will stay …..we shall see.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
Good evening everyone
twilson117
an hour ago
CL, 4th is a Thursday, so planning on the following week if thats ok. Trying to firm up visits to Cousins and nephews.
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
OMG – I thought all that was going north of you, Murph. I am so sorry. Hope you have alternative heat sources and lanterns, etc.
choicelady
an hour ago
TW!!!
choicelady
an hour ago
Hi, TW!
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
CL – Seemed to me that Trump’s attacks on the judge and his aide were intended to rile up the judge and get him to do something to help in an appeal but the judge saw it all coming and even let Trump humiliate himself with his “closing statement”. Trump has never experienced real consequences for his crimes, part of me thinks he doesn’t believe it will happen. But it’s happening.
AdLiban hour ago
PPO – that’s all fine.
choicelady
an hour ago
Hey TW!
AdLiban hour ago
So much of this Trump Drama is headed into Scotus (to decide if they will take up cases and if they do, decide.). What’s our read on the court?
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
Happy New Year to everyone
twilson117
an hour ago
Murph – SCOTUS has never yet voted on Trump’s side. Do not think they will now. Maybe two – Thomas and Alito – not the majority.
choicelady
an hour ago
All the best for 2024, TW
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
Hey Murph, hope you’re all prepped to stay warm! And that you can stay a bit, I can start a fire in the Vox fireplace.
AdLiban hour ago
TW – Happiest of new years to you.
choicelady
an hour ago
CLl….I have alternative heat, water sources, battery powered lighting but frozen pipes require a lot of prep and many of my neighbors, and they still are my neighbors, are not as well prepared as I am….so I help out
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
Ad never a dull moment with the great Orange One, now he has to fork over $400,000 to the NYT.
twilson117
an hour ago
Good for you – had water pipes burst in Buffalo. Good to prevent that!
choicelady
an hour ago
CL from your typing fingers to God Almighty…..please.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
Vox fireplace….Ad…love it.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
TW – I am LOVING the NY Times payout.
choicelady
an hour ago
Murph – I think SCOTUS may be open to helping Trump on being thrown off the ballot but no way will they uphold immunity and they might just decline to hear it at all.
AdLiban hour ago
I would love, for once to see Yambo being found guilty of something which will put him in prison immediately, pending his endless an dumb appeals. He’s trying to wear us out.
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
CL as am I. Love the fact that he is getting hammer from every way one can image.
twilson117
an hour ago
Murph – Don’t you have to keep water running in the pipes so they don’t freeze up?
AdLiban hour ago
Murph – hope your neighbors all know their in house and outside water shut offs. Best wishes to everyone getting through this.
choicelady
an hour ago
PPO his appeal process is all part of his MO
twilson117
an hour ago
TW – Missed the story about the NYT getting $400k from Trump. Why does he have to pay them?
AdLiban hour ago
Ad – I found, to my horror, that doesn’t always help. One really needs warming cables wrapped around pipes. Life in the REAL world of below freezing as a norm is quite the challenge.
choicelady
an hour ago
PPO but I’m with you I wish this blimp would just go far away.
twilson117
an hour ago
Ad it has to do with the tax fraud case they uncovered and he sued the reports and lost now he has to pay their legal fees
twilson117
an hour ago
I want him to go the way of Huey Long – shot down in public by a disgruntled supporter. Removes the conspiracy theories.
choicelady
an hour ago
Ad…..the state by state tossing of or keeping on the ballot is another of those examples of how rickety our constitutional structure is…..the Constitution of 1789 was meant to be worked with over a series of conventions…..Constitution 2.0 etc….Never happened because of the emergence of parties and ultra hot issues that all feared handling…..leading to the Civil War among other crises.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
Murph – agreed on the “Con Con” that never has found a moment to be done well and safely.
choicelady
an hour ago
PPO – I think Trump will be found guilty in the Jack Smith 1/6 trial, that’s the big one aside from GA (and I have no idea what’s going on with the story about Fani Willis’ affair with the lawyer so I am a little concerned there). But Trump won’t go to prison immediately…unless he makes more and more direct threats to unleashing violence. Then I could imagine Smith and Chutkin throwing his orange mug in jail.
AdLiban hour ago
Ad – I think Chutkin would have no problem remanding Trump upon conviction. He can appeal from a cell.
choicelady
an hour ago
CL – That’s quite a complicated thing to have to do. I’ve never lived in freezing weather. This can be really dire for those who aren’t properly prepared.
AdLiban hour ago
You turn off water lines that are not needed. You use drip runs on all faucets to move icing along and you use thermal wrap on the most important lines and on any in locations of high exposure.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
She and Smith will provide NO reversable error.
choicelady
an hour ago
Murph – that’s what we Buffalonians were taught. Glad you confirmed it.
choicelady
an hour ago
Ad – I have not been following the Willis story.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
The worst, Ad, is for tenants where they have no access to the plumbing.
choicelady
an hour ago
Ad yeah the Fani Willis story came out of no where and they are not saying anything about it. Just have to wait and see
twilson117
an hour ago
TW – That’s great news! Thanks for explaining it, Trump joins Giuliani and Fox News in having to make big payouts for lying. Love it!
AdLiban hour ago
CL – Maybe Giuliani or Pillow Guy will lose it and John Wilkes Booth Trump?
AdLiban hour ago
Ad do you think there is any possibility Rudi and Trump will go to the barn and put on a show to raise money?
twilson117
an hour ago
Ad – Trump has screwed over so many people, I’d not be surprised if they went “Boothy” on him.
choicelady
an hour ago
TW – which one of them is Judy Garland?
choicelady
an hour ago
Murph – But the 14th Amendment makes clear the intent of not electing anyone who betrayed their oath of office so as TW often says, the Repubs on the SCOTUS claim originalism as the only way to interpret the Constitution, they will have to tie themselves in knots to strike down Trump being thrown off the ballot.
AdLiban hour ago
Ad the MyPillow has been dropped by Fox seems like he’s just a bit behind on paying for the running of his ad but a few million or so. Almost feel sorry for him —- not! 
twilson117
an hour ago
How come that pillow fool is still free?
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
CL good question? I guess it would have to be Trump, Rudi has be Roney he’s the right height.
twilson117
an hour ago
PPO yeah he should be in jail for failing how to read computer print outs that tells you their is no phone ballots.
twilson117
an hour ago
Ad…I agree with your understanding of the 14th…..the mess, for me, lies in how it is applied and by whom….state by state, court by court, state office holder by state officeholder, state legislature by state legislature….all ways that the amendment can be applied. Very messy.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
Hey glenn!!! Wonderful to see you!
AdLiban hour ago
Glenn is in the House — Happy New Year Glenn
twilson117
an hour ago
PPO – Pillow Guy is a jerk, but so far, I doubt he’s actually broken laws.
choicelady
an hour ago
GLENN!!!! How are you, dear friend?
choicelady
an hour ago
Glenn…Now I AM really happy that I fought off tiredness just for the chance to say hello, my dear.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
Glenn, how are things going with and for you.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
CL – Right, especially people in apartments who have to hope the landlords and managers take the proper precautions.
AdLiban hour ago
Happy new year everyone! So glad to feel good enough to be here tonight. I’m doing all right thanks for asking. Not much different or new. Anyway I’m so glad I’m getting to chat with you all tonight.
glenn
an hour ago
Being a tenant is risky in harsh conditions.
choicelady
an hour ago
glenn – lovely to have you here. Glad things are reasonably OK with you.
choicelady
an hour ago
Glenn…thanks for the overview….I am so please to share this forum with you.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
TW – The fact that Willis hasn’t come out to deny the story yet AND that the wife of the lawyer Willis is supposedly having an affair with is including her in divorce proceedings givews me some concerns. This is so stupid of Willis if it’s true.
AdLiban hour ago
Ad – my understanding is that there is nothing to the Willis story, and if there WAS, it was some time ago.
choicelady
an hour ago
TW – I think Rudy and Giuliani will be side-by-side with George Santos selling Cameo greetings.
AdLiban hour ago
Glenn! Happy and healthy new Year
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
Ad well I have no idea and will have to wait and see what happens
twilson117
an hour ago
Missouri at one time had very hard winters…..30 to 40 of inches of snow every winter, lots of teen temps……but global warming has made our winters very mild with 5 inches of snow on avg and temps in the 40s and 50s most of the time.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
Just quickly reviewed The conversation. I’m with you add I hope it’s not true about Fani Willis but it doesn’t look good.
glenn
an hour ago
TW – Yep, saw that, it’s why I included Lindell in the mix. He’s another Trumper whose destroyed his life following Trump. Everything Trump touches dies.
AdLiban hour ago
Thanks PPO. A healthy and happy new year to you as well. Sounds like you’re starting off the year well in your new home.
glenn
an hour ago
Ad – I rather hope they share a curb in lower Manhattan selling pencils to stockbrokers who kick them as they walk by.
choicelady
an hour ago
PPO – we want photos of your new digs, please. It’s so exciting!
choicelady
an hour ago
Murph here in MA we would get a fair amount snow in the winter, but things have changed as well. We got a storm earlier this week but now the snow is gone and it’s raining. So Global Warming is having an impact even it folks don’t want to admit it.
twilson117
an hour ago
Murph – My proposition is that if a candidate is not eligible due to Constitutional requirements, the SCOTUS should affirm that. Then, whether states take him off the ballot or not, he can’t legally be awarded electoral votes.
AdLiban hour ago
TW – in 1981 I came back east, moved to Lawrence and loved every minute of my little place in a triple decker. Snowed often, was gorgeous, and I loved every minute of it. It’s all so weird now. You want a snowy Christmas you have to live in Fargo.
choicelady
an hour ago
CL, glenn and all. Still trawling through multiple boxes, No photos yet, but I will as soon as I can tidy up. Promise!
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
Here we have anaqulfer that is 30 percent off of peak affecting more and more farmers every year and the Missouri River basically closed to barge traffic with the Mississippi down to two lanes….and yet there is little alarm.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
PPO – OK, I get that. I’d not want to send photos of a place still decorated in cardboard.
choicelady
an hour ago
AD, I like your proposition. It’s my understanding that there are other candidates for senate and representatives that participated in that insurrection and should be kicked off the ballots. You can’t have it both ways. You want the people to elect you, but you will not accept the results of another election.
glenn
an hour ago
CL – Hope that’s true, just wish Willis would have come out to knock that story down sooner if it’s not true or an old story. Either way, the worst that could happen is another prosecutor replaces her, the case won’t be thrown out.
AdLiban hour ago
‘Murph – that is horrifying about the rivers.
choicelady
an hour ago
CL you live in Buffalo also right so you know what winters can be like.
twilson117
an hour ago
Oh Murph, did you see that interview with the MO SoS on CNN? Ashcroft? He face-planted so hard, it was almost like someone dared him to look like the biggest moron in the state.
AdLiban hour ago
This is kind of off the subject. Please please someone give me hope that Trump is going to be locked up soon.
glenn
an hour ago
Ad,,,,Ashcroft is representative of most of our state officials….
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
TW – I LIVED in Buffalo 1984-2000 so yes. I moved back to CA ahead of the 7 foot snowfall. Last year was a doozy for the city, but this year – meh. We will spend the rest of our lives doing two things: fighting fascism and wondering whether we get buried or a drought. What happened to the “Golden Years” we were promised in our old age?
choicelady
an hour ago
Murph I remember the times when the leading story in the news was your two rivers always flooding.,
twilson117
an hour ago
Sadly, glenn not soon, and certainly no matter how soon, not soon enough.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
Murph – what relationship is that doofus to John Ashcroft, architect of the “no intel on 9.11” fame
choicelady
an hour ago
glenn – he will be, but not sure when.
choicelady
an hour ago
CL so you missed the 78 blizzard that was something.
twilson117
an hour ago
Murph – I’m sure your fellow farmers who are MAGA will explain that it’s the Democrats who have lowered the Missouri River and the aquifer with their Jewish space lasers.
AdLiban hour ago
TW…I moved here just at the edge of those days….now long gone. Three nearby towns had river rise floods in flood basis every year…the last time was 12 years ago.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
Murph, agreed. He should’ve been locked up months ago.
glenn
an hour ago
CL…I believe his grandsonl
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
TW – yes, but I was dating the man whom I then married in 1981 when a Noreaster came in and pounded us. I did know about ’77 in Buffalo and ”78 in MA/RI and came back anyway!
choicelady
an hour ago
Ad…you must be going to their meetings…..you are really tuned in.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
Murph it seems like the younger Ashcroft takes after his father.
twilson117
an hour ago
Murph – Ashcrofts are not the brightest bulbs.’
choicelady
an hour ago
CL, that’s too bad. I still hate the way the media is covering him smirking face and breathtakingly reporting his every word.
glenn
an hour ago
Whatever generation he is in Ash is an Ass.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
glenn – we all agree. He’s despicable, and media give him too much of a pass.
choicelady
an hour ago
glenn – Agreed, I think after the Trump 1/6 trial, Jack Smith will indict at least some Repub Congresspeople who collaborated with Trump and the overthrow of the election. First things first, convicting Trump then everything else follows. And hey, why haven’t the FBI found the pipe bomber on 1/6 yet? They have to have plenty of info on that person (some say it was MTG but not so sure about that).
AdLiban hour ago
CL 78 was something, almost didn’t make it home lot of the people at the facility I worked at didn’t get home at all had spend time at the facility.
twilson117
an hour ago
GREAT campaign slogan, MurphL “Ash is an Ass”. Works for me!
choicelady
an hour ago
Glenn….even the liberal media needs his appearances as a viewership driver.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
TW – I remember so many stories like yours!
choicelady
an hour ago
Murph love the slogan. 
twilson117
an hour ago
Murph – You have to see that video, it’s hilarious what a complete idiot Ashcroft proves himself to be. Just double-digit IQ stupid.
AdLiban hour ago
AD, I think the person who is the pipe bomber is probably someone high in government or very well-known. I think that’s why it’s still not being disclosed if they do know who it is.
glenn
an hour ago
is it on you Tube?
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
CL as I said the weather pattern has changed and I’ve notice not getting as much snow, but there are time Feb can be pretty tricky and we have a lot of snow but it does seem things have changed.
twilson117
an hour ago
Ad and everyone – I am pretty sure the FBI know who the pipe bomber is, but if it’s a Congress person, they will haul her in after they get Trump sorted out. I am NOT convinced it’s only ONE woman. The pants are slightly different colors. So we may have a MOST interesting revelation soon.
choicelady
an hour ago
CL – As for your golden years, aparently you have to be a president with total immunity to ask Seal Team 6 to kill your political rivals to enjoy your golden years.
AdLiban hour ago
Ad – I don’t HAVE political rivals. Can I get a rebate>
choicelady
an hour ago
AD, so that’s what I missing in my golden years
glenn
an hour ago
glenn – we boomers wuz all cheated.
choicelady
an hour ago
CL, lol
glenn
44 minutes ago
Not me……cheated…..these are my Golden Years……….yeah, sure.
MurphTheSurf3
43 minutes ago
TW – sometime after April 20, I am coming your way. We need to find a way to meet.
choicelady
43 minutes ago
So with all this talk about snow, I guess I can’t complain about the rain and 50 to 60° weather we are having here. It’s all in your perspective I guess.
glenn
43 minutes ago
CL I believe the Ashcroft we’re talking about is the son of John.
twilson117
43 minutes ago
glenn – Good proposition, I agree that it could have been a Repub Congressperson or someone close to Trump or his campaign who did it. Is the FBI covering for Trump? Why havent they said anything more about the pipe bomber? Tons of cameras all around DC, they should have been able to track the bomber down I’d think.
AdLib43 minutes ago
I know so many my age who are living truly miserable lives…..and they sincerely believe that Mega will make it all better.
MurphTheSurf3
43 minutes ago
All – let’s face it: Boomers’ Golden Years have all been tarnished by Trump.
choicelady
42 minutes ago
glenn – it’s a bit colder here in Sacramento, but rain is all we are getting tomorrow and some next week.
choicelady
42 minutes ago
CL you know the one who had drapes put up to cover the some statues that offended him because their breasts were exposed. I guess he never went to an art museum
twilson117
41 minutes ago
Here’s Moronic Ashcroft exposing what a fool he is:
AdLib41 minutes ago
Murph, it’s such a shame that those people think that Maga is going to make things better. I just don’t know how living under a fascist dictator is going to make our lives better
glenn
41 minutes ago
Murph -MAGA left us using refrigerator trucks as morgues, burying us in mass graves. What lure can they possibly have now?
choicelady
41 minutes ago
Well said, cl. Imagine if Hillary won?
pinkpantheroz
41 minutes ago
I need to respond to a call for help…..I will try to get back to you all….
MurphTheSurf3
41 minutes ago
Take care, Murph! Love you!
choicelady
40 minutes ago
Murph take care.
twilson117
40 minutes ago
PPO – as a women’s march sign said, “If Hillary had won, we’d all be at brunch”.
choicelady
40 minutes ago
CL – That would be fantastic. As would it be if it was MTG and they had her nailed. She would go to prison beyond a doubt.
AdLib40 minutes ago
Take care Murph.Great talking with you
glenn
40 minutes ago
Hope you can make it back, Murph!
AdLib40 minutes ago
I have not been convinced MTG and LB were the bombers, but the reluctance of the FBI to arrest someone argues that one or both are. There is a deep strategy going on, and waiting to arrest them is consistent w that.
choicelady
39 minutes ago
Republicans want to cut SS and turn Golden Years into Coal Miner Years.
AdLib39 minutes ago
Ad – I am way too old to go back to work especially as a greeter at the winding engine house with the miners.
choicelady
38 minutes ago
Sorry folks but my energy is about sapped right now. So I’m going to call it a night. It was so nice chatting with all of you tonight. And I’m glad everyone was here tonight. I hope I can make it again next week. In the meantime you all have a wonderful week.
glenn
38 minutes ago
By the way, folks, It is being said by US media that Australia is leading the Red Sea action. What? All 9 technicians????? Wow!
pinkpantheroz
37 minutes ago
CL are we starting conspiracy can I play??
twilson117
37 minutes ago
Great to see you, glenn. Thank you for stopping by. Take care of yourself? We miss you and love it when you’re here.
choicelady
37 minutes ago
‘night, glenn. Great to say hi again. Take care.
pinkpantheroz
37 minutes ago
Glenn take care it’s good seeing you here.
twilson117
37 minutes ago
Thank you, CL
glenn
37 minutes ago
Murph – I kind of wish MAGAs could live the lives that Trump and the GOP want for the rest of the country, give them what they want. No SS, Medicare, working into their 80s, etc. Hey, it is what they’re voting for. I just don’t want the majority who oppose the Repubs to be crushed with all that.
AdLib36 minutes ago
TW – you are MORE than welcome to Play Conspiracy!
choicelady
36 minutes ago
Murph! Welcome back!
choicelady
36 minutes ago
It was great to see you, glenn! Hope you’ll be back again soon!
AdLib36 minutes ago
All OK, Murph?
pinkpantheroz
35 minutes ago
Good night all. Thank you for the kind words. I will read the rest of the conversation in the archives tomorrow morning.
glenn
35 minutes ago
Good night, glenn!
choicelady
35 minutes ago
Murph you’re a good man to go help out your neighbors.
twilson117
35 minutes ago
Yeah…panicked neighbors who just seemed to have realized what the weather means….funny, they watch Fox all day…..you know, why weren’t they aware?
MurphTheSurf3
35 minutes ago
Murph – everyone knows a major storm is just liberal conspiracy thinking.
choicelady
34 minutes ago
Murph, you answered your own question. they watch Fox!
pinkpantheroz
34 minutes ago
We are having 40 mph winds, a bit of sleet and the air temp is 17.
MurphTheSurf3
34 minutes ago
Murph – Fox News was probably too busy showing Hunter Biden’s junk to report on the freeze so how were your neighbors supposed to know about news that affects them? They’re watching Fox.
AdLib33 minutes ago
Can someone give me a rush precise on this bomber thing……I thought I knew it but it is obvious I do not.
MurphTheSurf3
33 minutes ago
Murph – I looked at St. Louis, and the wind chill advisory says wind chill temps down to -25 F. That’s LETHAL.
choicelady
32 minutes ago
CL maybe we could start a conspiracy to say that Fox news is really left wing propaganda and the truth is over on NPR.
twilson117
32 minutes ago
And Fox is not the only forum on the tube that peddles right wing poison.
MurphTheSurf3
32 minutes ago
I saw a poll talked about today that showed about half of the country is tuned out of the election right now and many of them still doubt Trump will be the GOP nom. Even so, the numbers are starting to pick up for Biden and drop for Trump. This is just the beginning, as the criminal and civil cases hammer Trump down and big new revelations about Trump’s crimes are all over the news, his numbers will be nosediving by midyear.
AdLib31 minutes ago
Murph do they watch a lot of Newsmax?
twilson117
31 minutes ago
CL…..I had not seen the wind chill rating…yeah, that makes sense.
MurphTheSurf3
31 minutes ago
There was one or two women – pretty clearly they are women – who laid pipe bombs in key locations Jan. 5. There are videos. So far no one has been ID’d. We shall see.’
choicelady
31 minutes ago
Ad…I SO hope your vision is indeed prescient.
MurphTheSurf3
31 minutes ago
TW – I am almost there deciding if they do the disinformation, we should, too.
choicelady
30 minutes ago
TW….I have sampled NewsMax….dumb, dumber, dumbest.
MurphTheSurf3
30 minutes ago
Murph yes it is.
twilson117
30 minutes ago
Well, folks, time to do some race management. Hope to see you all next week. In the meantime, take care and stay as healthy as possible.
pinkpantheroz
29 minutes ago
Race Management?
MurphTheSurf3
29 minutes ago
PPO good to see you as always, stay safe.
twilson117
29 minutes ago
Yacht races! Sorry!
pinkpantheroz
29 minutes ago
Lovely to see you, PPO. Have a great day and good racing. Love you!
choicelady
28 minutes ago
PPO…hysterical!
MurphTheSurf3
28 minutes ago
Murph – It’s really kind of straightforward. Trump’s support cratered after the revelations from the 1/6 committee. This entire year will be criminal and civil trials with tons of new information about Trump’s scheming and criming. No way that turns swing voters to swing to him. There was a poll that showed 60% of voters would not vote for Trump if he was criminally convicted. Even if it’s a bit less, Trump will be convicted and he will lose in a big way.
AdLib28 minutes ago
God, you have to be soooo careful with words these days. Sayonara
pinkpantheroz
28 minutes ago
Ok…choice, ad and tw……I clearly have a complete misunderstanding of the bomber thing…help
MurphTheSurf3
27 minutes ago
See you next time, PPO! Sail on, Ceylon Sailor.
AdLib27 minutes ago
PPO – yes, even among friends! LOL! Hugs!
choicelady
27 minutes ago
Murph – here is the FBI synopsis of the bomber with video footage as well on the bottom to click on.
choicelady
26 minutes ago
Murph – I think CL may be right. If the FBI knows who the pipe bombers were, and DC is loaded with cameras everywhere, and they’re holding back for now because they don’t want to try Repub operatives while Trump is being tried, it would make sense for the hammer to come down after Trump is convicted.
AdLib25 minutes ago
CL…thank you….I will erase my memory bank on the matter and start from scratch.
MurphTheSurf3
25 minutes ago
CL I thought the FBI had given up on trying to identify the person.
twilson117
25 minutes ago
I really gotta catch up on this one.
MurphTheSurf3
24 minutes ago
Thanks for the leads.
MurphTheSurf3
24 minutes ago
TW – It just makes no sense that the FBI couldn’t use cameras and cell phone towers to track and identify the pipe bombers.
AdLib24 minutes ago
The “order of march” for this investigation – convict Trump then fold in all his co-conspirators. Hard to prove anything against the cronies until the Big Guy has been convicted. So that’s still coming, and Jack Smith has two new US attorneys assigned to CONGRESS to look for co conspirators.
choicelady
23 minutes ago
SO doies anyone here doubt that Trump’s motion for immunity will be smacked down pretty swiftly by all courts?
AdLib23 minutes ago
Ad can’t argue that. If I recall wasn’t VP at the DNC location when the bombs were discovered?
twilson117
23 minutes ago
Ad – With current tech, if the cell phones we see on the cameras were doctored to “bounce” to Romania, El Salvador, and back to Russia – would be VERY hard to find the source. But I’m not convinced they don’t know from tons of data who it is. I think they’re just waiting.
choicelady
22 minutes ago
Ad there is no doubt in my mind, just waiting on them to render it.
twilson117
22 minutes ago
Ad – Trump’s motion for immunity is not going to fly, and it should be swiftly delivered.
choicelady
21 minutes ago
CL – I don’t know if they need to convict Trump to convict the other Repub politicians, I think they want to nail the big fish first and then think his exposed guilt will makle convicting other Repub Pols more acceptable to Americans. They don’t want to look like they’re prosecuting the whole GOP…even though much of it was part of the sedition.
AdLib21 minutes ago
I had to log out and log in…..my input box froze…
MurphTheSurf3
21 minutes ago
Ad – it is very hard to convict “co conspirators” if you haven’t first proven the Big Cajuna did the filthy deed.
choicelady
21 minutes ago
TW – Yes, Harris was at the DNC offices that morning, could have been a greater tragedy that day.
AdLib20 minutes ago
Murph – is that weather related? Not being funny – wind chill used to take out my ex’s system from cold.
choicelady
20 minutes ago
Ad – that is the horror of the otherwise inept bomber.
choicelady
20 minutes ago
CL….certainly weather affects the dishes….
MurphTheSurf3
19 minutes ago
CL – The cell tower data can’t be corrupted so that can help the FBI follow whoever was there…unless they turned their phones off.
AdLib19 minutes ago
I keep losing my connection……but I am enjoying the tete-a-tete too much to give up.
MurphTheSurf3
17 minutes ago
CL – From what I’ve heard, Smith is loaded with powerful evidence from all the testimony, emails, texts, etc. that so many involved in the coup have turned over. I bet they not only have shocking evidence on Trump but on many of the GOP Congresspeople and operatives. I think he’s fully loaded for bear but as you say, one thing at a time. Take down the mob boss first, he needs to be taken down no matter what then the others will be petrified when they see they too won’t be able to escape the law.
AdLib17 minutes ago
Ad it will be interesting to see if the FBI can nail it down and discover who it was.
twilson117
16 minutes ago
My 2024 fantasy is that when Smith is far enough along in the DC trial, one morning we will wake up and find the FBI, without benefit of prior notice, raided several homes of Reps and even Senators who abetted J6, have them in cuffs doing the perp walks, and will NOT entertain bail on national security and flight risks. Tuberville is one on the Senate side. Not sure about others, but the House has 5-6 at least.
choicelady
16 minutes ago
Murph – Sorry to hear the weather is messing with your connection. Hope it holds up a bit longer.
AdLib16 minutes ago
Ad…what an extraordinary summation.
MurphTheSurf3
16 minutes ago
Ad – they know where the perp(s) walked but not necessarily who it is. I hope they have been able to unpack the cell phone data well.
choicelady
15 minutes ago
CL…oh, your scenario would be a wonderful dream come true.
MurphTheSurf3
15 minutes ago
CL – Don’t forget Ron Johnson, some compromising facts just came out about his involvement in pushing the fake electors. And there’s Chuck Grassley who announced on 1/5 that he would be taking Pence’s place on 1/6.
AdLib14 minutes ago
Ad – Yes, they now have all they need, but to convince a jury, they have to show a crime WAS committed by Trump to show the perps who abetted that crime were working w him. It’s almost there!
choicelady
14 minutes ago
Ad – the Johnson/Grassley stuff may be separate from actual J6 collusion. There are tons of crimes. The trick is weaving them into the right chains.
choicelady
13 minutes ago
OH…another call…right back, maybe……these people must be desperate…asking for help from a lib.
MurphTheSurf3
12 minutes ago
How is these people who are suppose to be champions of democracy are working so hard to destroy it?
twilson117
12 minutes ago
CL – It works just fine for me. Even if Trump was the only one tried and convicted, he’s the one that needs to be. But we already know Smith listed dozens of unnamed co-conspirators in his indictment of Trump so we know he has the goods on them too.
AdLib12 minutes ago
I once testified to a federal grand jury. I had super evidence of conspiracy – I thought. The jury did NOT return a true bill until others ALSO testified. I was embarrassed, but once we put together a CHAIN of evidence of conspiracy, then we got the return. Did not work from just me.
choicelady
10 minutes ago
CL Grassely is a prime time commercial for term limits
twilson117
10 minutes ago
The feds are not sloppy and demand high level proof for such types of cases.
choicelady
10 minutes ago
TW – The GOP is an abandoned building of a party, just rats and roaches scurrying around in it. They’re not there to do their job or work for the people or honor the Constitution. I just loved Hunter Biden and his team destroying their hearing on him by showing up. They are nothing more than rodents now.
AdLib9 minutes ago
TW – I HATE term limits, but I’d be happy to impose them for people such as Grassley!!!
choicelady
9 minutes ago
CL I wasn’t for them either, but I now believe they are in order.
twilson117
8 minutes ago
CL – That’s very enlightening. I see your point comes from solid experience and I take it to heart.
AdLib8 minutes ago
Just caught up. You guys are H-O-T tonight.
MurphTheSurf3
8 minutes ago
Ad – Comer yelling Hunter was a coward for leaving is the stupidest thing EVER. Moskowitz asked for a vote to hear him. NOBODY GOP said yes – but Comer yells at Hunter and says he’s a coward??? These people are despicable and stupid at the same time
choicelady
7 minutes ago
Well, Ad – If *I* couldn’t do it… I found out how exacting federal grand juries are.
choicelady
7 minutes ago
CL….the Comer Coward knows that HIS networks will cobble together clips from the hearing to sell his scenario.
MurphTheSurf3
7 minutes ago
I’ve seen reports that Smith has explosive evidence on Trump that will come out in the trial. I can’t wait! He’s got info from so many people around Trump, from their phones and emails, maybe even recordings. I have complete confidence Smith will bury Trump with a bulldozer full of damning evidence. He is a real hero for this nation. We’re pretty lucky the right guy at the right time is right where he needs to be.
AdLib6 minutes ago
Well, The Lincoln Project is doing their version of it, and they have the knack that Comer lacks to sell the actual story.
choicelady
6 minutes ago
AD I’ve seen cockroaches smarter than Comer.
twilson117
6 minutes ago
Gang,…..I need to head to bed…..I suspect I will be needed in the early AM
MurphTheSurf3
5 minutes ago
Murph It’s good to seen you tonight take care.
twilson117
5 minutes ago
This was fun AND enlightening…..I need to do some homework…thanks for the leads.
MurphTheSurf3
5 minutes ago
Ad – Don’t know when Garland thought of Smith, but he built a solid foundation of evidence for him, or Smith would NOT have left the Hague for this. Whatever we have it’s been three years in the making, and it SHOULD blow Trump out of the water.
choicelady
5 minutes ago
CL – It’s always the same story with Repubs, whatever they accuse others of is a reflection of who they are. Comer is a liar and a coward and possibly conducted illegal business through his own shell companies. Thank goodness Comer, Jordan, MTG, Boebert, etc. are a package deal of incompetence and idiocy.
AdLib4 minutes ago
Murph – take all precautions on your own safety. Wind chill affects everyone. Please stay safe. We wish you a good weekend with good outcomes for all. But we will worry about you. Hugs and best wishes,
choicelady
3 minutes ago
Rest well, Murph and stay warm!
AdLib3 minutes ago
CL I hope Smith does because Trump is nothing but a wannabe mobster.
twilson117
3 minutes ago
TW – totally agree on Trump’s life goals.
choicelady
3 minutes ago
Thanks one and all….your kind thoughts will do their part in keeping this old soul warm.
MurphTheSurf3
3 minutes ago
CL – Agreed. Garland should take a lot of credit too for bringing in Smith, he made this possible.
AdLib2 minutes ago
Guys, I think I’m dropping off, too. Lots of busy work this week and a major essay to write on our March 5 ballot measure for my organization. Talk to you next Friday. Everyone in the way of bad weather please stay safe! Talk to you Friday!
choicelady
2 minutes ago
CL take care.
twilson117
a minute ago
And like that, the lovely CL is gone. She’s so wonderful!
AdLiba minute ago
Ad did we close the bar againg??
twilson117
a minute ago
TW – We always get a free drink at the end of the night for closing up. And any peanuts left in the bowls.
AdLiba few seconds ago
Peanuts are gone will call in few.
twilson117
in a few seconds
Sounds good. Opening another can of peanuts in the meantime…
AdLibin a few seconds
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