Vox Populi, our weekl.y live chat about the week’s events begins tonight at 7:00pm PST. Hope to see you then!
AdLib3 hours ago
Hey PPO! How are things?
AdLib2 hours ago
Not sailing today. Out of my home for 2 weeks while the painters are there. Doing OK for an old fogey!
pinkpantheroz
2 hours ago
Glad you’re doing well. And what is a “fogey” anyway and are there “young fogeys”?
AdLib2 hours ago
IGood point!
pinkpantheroz
2 hours ago
I want this whole fogey thing investigated.
AdLib2 hours ago
A Royal Commission is warranted!
pinkpantheroz
2 hours ago
A congressional Committee On the Weaponization of Fogey.
AdLib2 hours ago
yet another non essential thing for the GOP to scarecrow about
pinkpantheroz
2 hours ago
I wonder if after Murdaugh’s conviction and sentancing, if Trump is more scared that money and power may not stop criminal prosecution of him.
AdLib2 hours ago
Hey TW!
AdLib2 hours ago
I’ve just about given up that that eejit will ever see the inside of a jail
pinkpantheroz
2 hours ago
TW!
pinkpantheroz
2 hours ago
Hello everyone
twilson117
2 hours ago
PPO – I’m impatient, I had hoped Fani Willis in GA would’ve indicted Trump by now but she did say her decisions were imminent.
AdLib2 hours ago
Will be right back
twilson117
2 hours ago
I see appeal afer appeal and timewasting
pinkpantheroz
2 hours ago
And Jack Smith is moving very aggressively against Trump with subpoenas for Pence, Meadows, etc. And the DoJ just told the court that they won’t defend Trump for his inciting speech on 1/6. I hate how long this is taking but it is moving forward.
AdLib2 hours ago
CL!
pinkpantheroz
2 hours ago
Hey! Ad, TW and PPO!!! Lovely to see you!
choicelady
2 hours ago
I know but eventually, appeals are exhausted and many of those will be after he’s convicted.
AdLib2 hours ago
Okay I’m back and CL is in the house.
twilson117
2 hours ago
How’s the health, cl?
pinkpantheroz
2 hours ago
Hey CL! How are you feeling? Toss that Covid out of the house?
AdLib2 hours ago
Ad give Willis her due she wants to make sure she has a slam dunk case.
twilson117
2 hours ago
CL how are you doing?
twilson117
2 hours ago
+I’m here as long as the eyes hold. Had the injections yesterday, bad reaction but better. I shall “see”. I am over COVID but not the tiredness. That lingers while all else is good.
choicelady
2 hours ago
How is everyone here?
choicelady
2 hours ago
sometimes. TW, near enough should be good enough to get the ball rolling
pinkpantheroz
2 hours ago
TW – Indeed and she has another Grand Jury she is likely waiting for their approved indictments but she doesn’t have to follow them, she can charge however she chooses.
AdLib2 hours ago
Ad – I think she is needing the backing of the Grand Jury for taming the outraged types.
choicelady
2 hours ago
Well I’m okay, got a thumbs up from the doc today he concluded I do indeed have a heart.
twilson117
2 hours ago
CL – Doing fine here, thanks! It did snow here in LA last week, freaky!
AdLib2 hours ago
TW – that is marvelous information. WE knew you have a heart, but it’s always good to have material confirmation.
choicelady
2 hours ago
TW – We could’ve told you that.
AdLib2 hours ago
evicte from my house a day early by the painters!
pinkpantheroz
2 hours ago
CL thanks for that
twilson117
2 hours ago
Ad – I can’t believe the weird weather YOU guys are having.\
choicelady
2 hours ago
PPO – Make sure the painters aren’t having a party!
AdLib2 hours ago
out for 2 weeks prepping house for sale. In a hotel across the road from my Yacht Club! Hope my liver holds up!
pinkpantheroz
2 hours ago
PPO – don’t you hate when workmen (and women) boot you from your rest to do what you’d ASKED them to do?
choicelady
2 hours ago
PPO – when you sell, where do you go from there?
choicelady
an hour ago
CL – It’s still unnaturally cold here period, not to mention for March. In the 40s at night and more often it’s 70s-80s.
AdLiban hour ago
Yes, CL, but it adds mucho dinero to the sale price.
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
What do you all think about Dedumbass wanting bloggers to register if they write anything about him
twilson117
an hour ago
PPO – that’s logical but still a pain.
choicelady
an hour ago
TW – DeSantis is, if possible, MORE fascistic than Trump. His demands will I think be shot down by courts.
choicelady
an hour ago
cl, when i sell i will move closer to the club, which is my social hub these days
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
CL right on that, have a copy of the proposed bill it makes no sense.
twilson117
an hour ago
PPO – that sounds lovely. Do you have a place lined up?
choicelady
an hour ago
TW – InSane-tis is rapisly turning FL into a banana republic…it wasn’t so far from that to begin with. But I think the Feds need to sue the hell out of him and FL with all these unconstitutional laws they’re passing every day.
AdLiban hour ago
So PPO how long before you can move back in?
twilson117
an hour ago
2 weeks
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
Ad he is indeed.
twilson117
an hour ago
I liked Jamie Raskin terming them “Banana Republicans”. That’s what they should be called!
AdLiban hour ago
Murph is in the house
twilson117
an hour ago
Hey Murph!
AdLiban hour ago
There are SO many illegal things DeSantis is doing, it’s going to be a textbook case of what to do in a democratic republic!!!lic
choicelady
an hour ago
Florida is weird! Don’t understand how that nazi gets away with everything
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
In the house……now let’s grouse.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
Murph!
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
Greetings one and all.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
MURPH!!!
choicelady
an hour ago
All, what does anyone know about vivek ramaswamy
twilson117
an hour ago
Correction – they will be textbook case on what NOT to do in a democratic republic.
choicelady
an hour ago
Now that we have a full house, I wanted to share this if you haven’t seen it yet. Jon Stewart destroys an OK legislator over guns in one of the best interviews of a politician I’ve ever seen. It’s 8 min so suggest you watch after Vox but please do watch it!
AdLiban hour ago
TW – I never heard of said person. So my answer is “nothing”.
choicelady
an hour ago
Will do, Ad.
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
Ad – (I saw that whole interview – it was absolutely wonderful. He eviscerated the dude.
choicelady
an hour ago
Sorry, TW, never heard of him
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
TW….a right winger who was among the first who treated political belief as a business enterprise…i.e. a money maker.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
Ad….will watch Post Planet.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
CL he is running for president, 37 son of parents who immigrated here, he has made a small fortune from what I’ve researched so far look like a repug version of Obama perhaps.
twilson117
an hour ago
welcome 378
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
TW – Vivek Ramaswamy is just another wealthy RW tech CEO in OH who wants to push everything all the rest of the MAGAs want. He hasn’t a prayer in the GOP primary against two white racists.
AdLiban hour ago
Murph that’ s what I picked up
twilson117
an hour ago
Hi 378!
AdLiban hour ago
All – how can ANY immigrant support MAGA who collectively hate immigrants? Is this the narcissistic “Well, I’m the exception, and they LOVE me” kind of guy?
choicelady
an hour ago
CL – Yes, it was phenomenal, Stewart only used facts and slapped away every typical Repub trick to avoid discussing their dishonesty and hypocrisy. He was epic.
AdLiban hour ago
Hey Glenn
twilson117
an hour ago
glenn! How are you?
AdLiban hour ago
Ad – it was epic, and I LOVED it.
choicelady
an hour ago
glenn! Wow!
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
glenn!!!
choicelady
an hour ago
CL I don’t know but this guy seems to be in that mode
twilson117
an hour ago
TW – I am REALLY exhausted by people who defer to white supremacy despite being actual, literal, victims of it.
choicelady
an hour ago
Hey everyone. I’m doing OK. CL I hope you 
glenn
an hour ago
doing ok, thanks, glenn.
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
Better, glenn, thank you. Bad day yesterday and this morning, but I seem to be on the mend.
choicelady
an hour ago
CL what else do they have?
twilson117
an hour ago
Did you see that the DoJ informed a court in the DC civil suits against Trump for 1/6 that they won’t defend Trump and don’t see his inciting speech as protected by his office at the time. Trump will be civilly sued for a decade for hundreds of millions on top of the hundreds of millions NY AG is suing him for.
AdLiban hour ago
GLENN…..so very fine to “see you”.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
TW – GOP have nothing, but can’t individuals get a core and ally with people such as themselves?
choicelady
an hour ago
Ad yes I saw that and I think that’s just wonderful 
twilson117
an hour ago
CL – There is a sad history of people in an oppressed minority seeking success by betraying those like them to cheerlead the oppressors.
AdLiban hour ago
oops sorry. Using voice to text and it got a little mixed up. CL so glad to hear you are on the mend. Good to see you too Murph and PPO and TW and AD.
glenn
an hour ago
TW, I really cannot reconcile anyone of any colour embracing either the GOP or the MAGAts
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
Ad – I was NOT surprised by the DOJ’s refusal to defend Trump. It’s utterly consistent with all other cases they’ve faced.
choicelady
an hour ago
CL it seems like all they want to do is wish for their version of a theocratic form of governance. What else do they have?
twilson117
an hour ago
PPO – same here. Not sensible.
choicelady
an hour ago
PPO…I have a friend, a black activist, who calls black who support MAGA “race traitors.” Strong feelings on all sides.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
PPO the repugs over here have lost all values if they ever had any.
twilson117
an hour ago
TW – I doubt they’re all Dominionists (power mad faux Christians), but there is a perversity to the “I can get along with evil people, ain’t I COOOOL ” mentality here that creeps me out.
choicelady
an hour ago
TW, definitely the GOP is pushing a theocratic form of governance. Not to mention fascist as DeSantis here in Florida keeps showing us.
glenn
an hour ago
It really pisses me off that they embrace racism. Come on!
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
PPO – It’s idiotic when the racism is also directed at THEM.
choicelady
an hour ago
And looks like Santos is going to be kicked out of the House…or be the face of the GOP if they don’t, now that the House Ethics committee voted unanimously to investigate charges against him. McCarthy is in trouble for handing all the Capitol video to Tucker Carlson and Jim Jordan is being seen by Repubs as an utter failure as his Committee for the Weaponization of Government is blowing up.
AdLiban hour ago
CL Glenn, along with MTG wanting Red states to split from Blue states. AKA another Civil War.
twilson117
an hour ago
Ad that can’t come soon enough.
twilson117
an hour ago
All – Santos is one of THREE with falsified bios. I want to know if there is a common denominator among them.
choicelady
an hour ago
Oiur version of the GOP here are trying to push theocracy down our throats, but we beat them in the last election and they;re ducking for cover
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
CL – Yes, the DoJ is acting consistently in this case but defending Trump in the E. Jean Harris case is not consistent. They will lose in the end and that trial should be coming up in a month or two.
AdLiban hour ago
CL there is, they’re all repugs.
twilson117
an hour ago
AD I can’t believe McCarthy handed all that video to Carlson. I read the other day that some media outlets are suing under freedom of information act to also get that video. Have you heard anything about that?
glenn
an hour ago
I agree, Ad, the GOP in the House are thick fingered, wrong headed, stumbling dolts but it is a look their base celebrates, and those of use who are not for them find appaling.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
PPO glad to hear that at least somewhere in the world the fascists are losing.
glenn
an hour ago
Now, we really must stop Ukraine invading Russia! Naughty boys n girls
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
Y’all might like to know that PRRI – Public Religion Research Institute – a VERY reliable and unbiased surveyor of faith in America, showed 2020 that RW religious affiliation PLUMMETED from 23% ro 14% of the population in a decade. Mainline denominations are growing a bit, but the Right is in “freefall”. THAT is why they are ramping up the oppression – they are terrified they are becoming powerless and irrelevant. Me? “There’ll be dancing…dancing in the streets” as this goes on.
choicelady
an hour ago
All, will someone help me understand why Republicans believe theocratic governance will work here in the US when it didn’t work in England were founders came from and it why did didn’t want any form of an established religion?
twilson117
an hour ago
CL…fascinating info re. the hollowing out of the Right’s Temples of Intolerance.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
CL yes I read something about that where religion is really fading in this country.
glenn
an hour ago
CL that is very interesting.
twilson117
an hour ago
And also very big news, Dominion Voting Machines’ release of the info so far on Fox News has experts saying Fox will lose badly and be seriously damaged…along with how their being exposed as admitted liars and frauds has devalued Fox to their investors…who may also sue Murdoch and Board members like Paul Ryan! And…Murdoch’s giving Biden ad info to Trump is a criminal contribution! I think it is time for Dems and legit news to brand Fox propaganda, not news and push them out of inclusion of the WH Press Corps.
AdLiban hour ago
TW Republicans believe theocratic governance will work here because they don’t know any history. Or if they do no history they want to rewrite it and so we have their version of government.
glenn
an hour ago
Are Americans at last beginning to wonder how so much money is pouring into the Evangelical coffers?
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
TW….I am cynical and believe that most of the right’s leadership is using religious affiliation as another tool in their drive for totalitarian governance.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
Ad – No, defending Trump was a ploy. They made little effort, KNEW he would lose, and the case was then DONE and she could sue without ANY referral by Trump to “executive privilege” or “actions taken in gov’t authority”. The liberal DOJs always finish these case so that the RW WILL LOSE. If you do nothing – the accusation by the RW still hangs around. Since it was entered in his name, they argued it in his name – to lose. THAT IS DELIBERATE and in HER best interest. As it turns out.
choicelady
an hour ago
Murph I agree
twilson117
an hour ago
CL – Santos is first in line but the other two Repubs who lied to voters as frauds should follow.
AdLiban hour ago
Ad Dominion has a strong case, What are the odds the board ousts ruppert?
twilson117
an hour ago
Fox so-called news needs to be put off the air. But from what I read their base or fans or followers or whatever you wanna call them are still loyal to that station. I guess they really like being lied to.
glenn
an hour ago
PPO – That is very encouraging! You’re dealing with the same Theo-fascist mentality there as we are.
AdLiban hour ago
PPO – I think it isn’t the amount of money but the SOURCE that now interests us. The laws on non profits are very clear – there is a standard of “excessive compensation” in Sarbanes Oxley, the laws regulating corporations, that allow members impacted by the waste of their donations to file charges w the IRS. Someone from these churches needs to do this. They CAN lose their tax exemption for it.
choicelady
an hour ago
glenn – And I think there can be nothing but damage that follows from McCarthy treating confidential information like the Capitol videos as propaganda to share…with a pro-Putin Carlson.
AdLiban hour ago
I’m just hoping we have a glorious day or week coming up soon where Trump gets indicted, and indicted, and indicted. We are also dominion wins it’s case
glenn
an hour ago
CL…you are such a fountain of knowledge and inspiration…really
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
glenn 
choicelady
an hour ago
Where also dominion wins it’s case and Fox News is No longer.
glenn
an hour ago
Glenn I’m with you on Trump having multiple bad days with multiple indictments
twilson117
an hour ago
Murph – I have had a ridiculously diverse professional history and know tons of what my Dad used to call “little known facts of equally little consequence.” But every now and then, they come in handy.
choicelady
an hour ago
Murph – MTG will prove to be a massive disaster for McCarthy and keeping control of the House. She has turned insanity up to 11 and each day, she spews such hostile and obvious BS, it’s sticking to all Repubs in the House. Along weith Santos’ credibility. I declare it now, Repubs will lose the House in 2024.
AdLiban hour ago
Side story….a school board election here has become a proxy war between religionist totalitarians right wingers…..and a group of parents who are thoroughly secular and practical. The race that was all but done has now become a tossup.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
I ‘d love it if a world public holiday were announced the day TFG gets nailed, so we could all dance in the streets
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
Murph there is always something interesting going on in your neck of the woods.
twilson117
an hour ago
AD I hope you’re right about Repub’s losing the house
glenn
an hour ago
CL and ou have used do many of those “little known facts” in service to significant matters of great conequence.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
glenn – I spend much of my time fighting Dominionists – RW faux Christians -and never thought I’d be ROOTING for Dominion, the computer geeks.
choicelady
an hour ago
CL – That’s affirming to hear. I think the last two elections confirm that the RW theocratic extremism is accelerating the polarization of Americans from supporting them and their hatred and anti-democratic fascism.
AdLiban hour ago
Ad MTG is a total train wreck seven days of the week.
twilson117
an hour ago
Murph – thank you! I do try.
choicelady
an hour ago
CL….you do….very, very, very hard…zealous, you are.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
CL I can’t help but think God gave us religion as a cruel joke to see how we would handle it. 
twilson117
an hour ago
Ad – the RW has peaked, burned out, and is eating its own. They are SO incompetent – and that includes DeSantis – they can’t survive. But there are cadres out there who aren’t that stupid. THOSE are the people I fear, and I don’t even yet know their names.
choicelady
an hour ago
Murph when you say the race was all but done, was it in favor of the sane people?
glenn
an hour ago
Murph – again, thank you. I do seem to retain the good stuff. Do not, however, ask me what I made for dinner last night.
choicelady
an hour ago
CL – Reservations?
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
CL I know right? Does it hurt your heart to write that you are rooting for dominion? Lol
glenn
an hour ago
CL have to agree with Murph you are a fountain of knowledge
twilson117
an hour ago
TW – I would say whether it was religion, democracy, education – anything that requires engagement – god handed it to us (or not) and it’s on us to rise to the challenge or fail utterly.
choicelady
an hour ago
Glenn…oh no, the maggits were inches away from a landslide until a “plan for the future” document created by the right winners laid bare their despicable plans….a counter attack was quickly mounted.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
PPO – No, that was TONIGHT’s dinner.
choicelady
an hour ago
You saw that Walgreens has bowed to Repub states and voluntarily are stopping distributing the abortion pill? Not only should everyone boycott Walgreens, think of all the groups of Americans under assault and being primed to vote against Repubs in 2024 in big numbers. Women, LGBTQ, students, PoC, those who believe in democracy and the 1st Amendment and The Constitution. How can all of this Repub insanity attract more voters? It can only alienate more and the courts should hopefully protect enough of their voter suppression to throw them out in 2024.
AdLiban hour ago
Murph good to hear that saying people are finally speaking up. When is the election?
glenn
an hour ago
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
School Board elections are in two weeks.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
CL, well we seem to be really messing it up.
twilson117
an hour ago
CL – But the court hasn’t ruled yet on the DoJ’s defense of executive privilege for Trump against E. Jean Carol.
AdLiban hour ago
I have found reporting from CPAC interesting in that there seems to be no integrated vision being offered but rather a splintering of right wing madness.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
AD one can only hope that people are getting fed up with Republicans. I can’t believe that sane Americans can go along with book banning and banning people from speaking out and having news media lie to you intentionally. I hope that all of this is going to blow up in their faces big time soon.
glenn
an hour ago
TW – I don’t know that the Fox Board would oust Murdoch but shareholders could.
AdLiban hour ago
Ad why Walgreen is caving is a mystery they have enough clout to fight.
twilson117
an hour ago
Ad, yes I meant the SH.
twilson117
an hour ago
Ad – I have read two VERY different things – One, Walgreens is not selling Plan B and the abortions pills in ONLY the states where it’s outlawed which I certainly get, and the other is that they won’t sell any of it anywhere. Does ANYONE KNOW? Reason I’m suspicious of the latter is that Planned Parenthood INSISTED that Catholic Hospitals didn’t give Plan B. to rape victims. Well, I was a SA and DV victim advocate in Western NY, and yup – in the 1990s Catholic hospitals gave out Plan B or prescriptions for it everywhere I had a victim. So I’d like to know if this is only those states or ALL states and would like a reliable not hair on fire source.
choicelady
an hour ago
Ad the Fox board is a feckless group it will have to the shareholders and the stock takes a dive.
twilson117
an hour ago
TW – well, I can understand caving in states where to sell it invites raids and legal action, but if it IS national, that’s cowardice.
choicelady
an hour ago
Sorry folks but I’m fading fast. So glad to be able to talk to everyone tonight. It’s been a while since we’ve had such a full house and I really hate to leave but I can’t keep my eyes open any longer. Dialysis does me in and staying up this late afterwards just really does Bien
glenn
an hour ago
lovely seeing you, glenn. Sending love
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
Just really does me in.. Anyway good night all and I hope you have a good week. Hope to be here next week good night
glenn
an hour ago
Oh – sorry glenn – it’s lovely to see you. I’m sorry for the time gap that gets you here so late. Hugs and best to you!
choicelady
an hour ago
Glenn glad you came tonight, take care.
twilson117
an hour ago
Thank you all for the love and hugs.
glenn
an hour ago
CL….here is what I know…..Walgreens statement makes it clear that where there is direct opposition by AG’s they will not sell the med…..but that means that includes states were the drug is legal but the AG is right winner seeking to “make law” via threat.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
Good night Glenn…stay well.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
CL – Agreed! Bannon at CPAC today attacked Fox News which has shadow banned coverage and interviews with Trump. I think it’s a good bet that when the primary really gets underway, we will see a political Thunderdome of Repubs savagely fighting each other like never before and the party will be in tatters when 2024 comes around. Not to mention, if Trump loses the nom, he will tell his supporters to abandon the GOP, that will be so sweet!
AdLiban hour ago
Night glenn!
AdLiban hour ago
Well, that is dumb, Murph – if it’s not illegal, their resources should embolden them to sell it and stick to the fascists.
choicelady
an hour ago
sorry folks, got to get my car off a meter. See u next week
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
PPO take care.
twilson117
an hour ago
Ad – did you notice 1. his reception was the MOST enthusiastic and 2. there was hardly anyone IN the room BEING enthusiastic. Bannon has lost his sparkle. OK – that’s an oxymoron’ he never had that, but he is NOT drawing the crowds.
choicelady
an hour ago
Ad when is Bannon going to jail?
twilson117
an hour ago
CL….I think Walgreens execs fear AG launched legal attacks even if the AG is standing on shaky ground. I think their stance is cowardly.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
Hugs PPO – see you soon.
choicelady
an hour ago
Murph – Have you seen how empty CPAC is? When the head of it is accused of sexual assault against a male intern, probably bodes poorly.
AdLiban hour ago
Murph – yup. Cowardly WOULD be the word.
choicelady
an hour ago
Ad…I will do something I rarely do tomorrow….watch Trump at CPAC….I want to read his impact on that crowd, and that crowd;s impace on him.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
Ad – CPAC and all the lovely folks on Twitter who are showing the numbers of CPAC followers indicted and convicted of all kinds of sexual perversion are falling apart.
choicelady
an hour ago
CL – From what I read, Walgreens announcement was to stop selling Plan B in any state that has anti-abortion laws. Not everywhere. Still, they should be boycotted into hell.
AdLiban hour ago
Murph – I probably won’t watch, but I will pay attention to news reports. I think he’s toast.
choicelady
an hour ago
Murph you’re a brave man. I couldn’t do that at all.
twilson117
an hour ago
Ad…the AG’s have threatend Walgreens with action even in states where they are AG’s but the state still permits the med in question.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
Well, I can see where it’s legislatively outlawed you couldn’t sell it without massive legal pushback, but where it’s a matter of legality but a fascist AG, that IS cowardly.
choicelady
an hour ago
Re. watching Trump tomorrow….I plan on having nausea meds at hand.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
Murph I suggest at least a sixpack and fifth of Glenn Levet
twilson117
an hour ago
Walgreens is a corporate coward and collaborator with anti-abortion forces by pulling Plan B BEFORE there are any laws preventing its use under Federal law. Cowardly and greedy, happy to sell off women to protect their bottom line. No other pharmacy chain has shown such greed.
AdLiban hour ago
I read tonight that there are two states where legislators have called for the removal of their AG’s for usurping their authority to make law by enforcing a law that has not been made.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
Murph all Trump is going to do is repeat he won the election.
twilson117
an hour ago
Murph – I recommend tea with whiskey and honey to keep down the rising gorge.
choicelady
an hour ago
Murph – which two states? THAT is pretty cool!
choicelady
an hour ago
TW….and I wonder what reaction he will get….his people are claiming that he will lay out his plans for a second term….doubtful….too much real work.
MurphTheSurf3
44 minutes ago
TW – that’s likely Trump’s mantra – so let’s see how well it’s received.
choicelady
44 minutes ago
CL – I wouldn’t doubt Bannon organized a loud audience to be there and cheer him on. They havn’t been cheering anyone loudly this year…because there are so few in the audience. And Bannon getting cheered for demanding Fox News be attacked is music to my ears.
AdLib44 minutes ago
CL….I am trying to nail the states down…..
MurphTheSurf3
44 minutes ago
Thanks, Murph.
choicelady
44 minutes ago
Murph Trump has no plan other than revenge. If he was to win it will nonstop get even.
twilson117
43 minutes ago
Ad – I guess Bannon could go on Craig’s List for a rooting section again, but he got almost NO ONE for himself, so…?
choicelady
43 minutes ago
TW….the “emperor has no clothes”
MurphTheSurf3
43 minutes ago
CL the die hard Trump fans will accept anything he has to say.
twilson117
42 minutes ago
Did you hear about Trump’s crazy fantasy promises if he’s re-elected? Government created new cities, flying cars, cops given free reign to attack and kill however they want. Not joking, this is his platform!!!
AdLib42 minutes ago
Ad now that’s funny
twilson117
42 minutes ago
Ad….I have heard that he is going the way of “looney tunes and merry melodies” as well.
MurphTheSurf3
42 minutes ago
TW – the “die hards” would do us all a favor and do that. Die hard.
choicelady
40 minutes ago
CL amen
twilson117
40 minutes ago
Another side note…I have been attending religious services at a local Ukrainian Catholic Church periodically. The parish has lots of immigrants with direction connections to home. It is giving me a new perspective on the war.
MurphTheSurf3
40 minutes ago
Ad – HOLY COW – no, I had not heard those promises. Oy.
choicelady
40 minutes ago
Murph – Walgreens is a greedy co-conspirator. So the AGs threaten, they can’t overthrow federal law to prosecute them, this is corporate cowardice when constitutional rights are threatened. The cowardice and greed should turn Walgreens into an enemy for most Americans.
AdLib40 minutes ago
Murph how are the doing?
twilson117
39 minutes ago
Ad….for Walgreens it is a matter of expedience choosing to go in the direction where they will not be challenged.
MurphTheSurf3
39 minutes ago
Murph – that’s pretty wonderful. Are your immigrant families settled in the house? Do you go with them? This is a lovely microcosm right in your neck of the woods!
choicelady
38 minutes ago
” Former President Donald Trump on Friday proposed building up to 10 futuristic “freedom cities” on federal land, part of a plan that the 2024 presidential contender said would “create a new American future” in a country that has “lost its boldness.” Commuters, meanwhile, could get around in flying cars, Trump said – an echo of “The Jetsons,” the classic cartoon about a family in a high-tech future society.”
AdLib38 minutes ago
TW…the generosity of Ukrainians here is wondrous to see. There are also more than a few folks like myself.
MurphTheSurf3
38 minutes ago
Ad did he promise ponies for everyone as well?
twilson117
38 minutes ago
Ad – the people who would live in Trump Towns would be the same people who cut me off on the freeway, so that flying car thingy is kind of Darwinian. KAPOW!
choicelady
37 minutes ago
CL…the immigrants are being housed within their communities with assistance from allies like myself and my crowd.
MurphTheSurf3
37 minutes ago
Murph – That is fantastic news about legislators wanting removals of AGs threatening pharmacies and others of prosecution for laws that don’t exist. Which are the 2 states?
AdLib36 minutes ago
Murph – very, very fine.
choicelady
36 minutes ago
Ad….I am digging into that……
MurphTheSurf3
36 minutes ago
Murph that is really great to hear. I only hope the war ends soon.
twilson117
36 minutes ago
Murph – are you going through with plans to have them work with you on the farm?
choicelady
35 minutes ago
Ad flying cars. Really, you got to be kidding me.
twilson117
35 minutes ago
CL – Seriously, someone posted on Twitter an ad to pay min wage to hire people to fill the seats at CPAC. Bannon was already doing that I bet.
AdLib35 minutes ago
T W….the war is long from ending……sad, but the Ukrainians appear to have accepted this.
MurphTheSurf3
35 minutes ago
Murph yeah that’s the sad truth isn’t it.
twilson117
34 minutes ago
Ad – minimum wage WHERE because $7.25 and hour isn’t a lure.
choicelady
34 minutes ago
CL…..yes…..working along side in the spring but it is very important to them that remain rooted in their community here…of interest U.S. Ukrainians are saying that these new immigrants are challenging them to reimbrace their history and heritage.
MurphTheSurf3
33 minutes ago
All – I read that 10,000 Russians have accepted Ukrainians’ offer to surrender. They want to LIVE, and they know they won’t be abused. That’s unprecedented historically I think.’
choicelady
33 minutes ago
Murph – That is why what Walgreens is doing is really bad. They are supporting fascism by bowing to it and betraying their cutomers, because it’s “fiscally smart” to avoid conflicts with AGs acting as fascists. This is how societies fall into fascism, corporations join in because it’s in their financial interest in their thinking. Evil stuff.
AdLib33 minutes ago
Ad sounds like what Trump did when he announced his run for president
twilson117
33 minutes ago
Ad….a good summary.
MurphTheSurf3
33 minutes ago
Murph = I can see working with you but living with their country folks. Makes sense.
choicelady
33 minutes ago
TW – Trump rolled out around five crazy unicorn magic BS things in that deranged speech. I bet he’ll repeat them tomorrow night!
AdLib32 minutes ago
CL…yes…..our association has offered property we have with a house, a barn and several out buildings to serve as a gathering place for summer outdoor events.
MurphTheSurf3
31 minutes ago
Ad and they will give him a round of thunderous applause for the BS he will spew.
twilson117
31 minutes ago
CL – The CPAC ad said they would get to enjoy seats that would otherwise be $25k! And get paid $7.25/hr to applaud insane people. Who could turn that down?
AdLib31 minutes ago
Ad – Trump is taking on the mantle of the promises made by would-be class presidents in Middle School: Candy in the vending machines, soft drinks in the water coolers. He’s reverting to his age level – an incel 13 year old.
choicelady
30 minutes ago
Ad – at his rallies he paid $15 an hour. So this event is bargain basement pricing?
choicelady
30 minutes ago
CL
twilson117
30 minutes ago
CL,,,,Trumpian dementia…but I love the middle school comparison.
MurphTheSurf3
29 minutes ago
choicelady
29 minutes ago
CL – ” Russia could find itself with no money as soon as next year and needs foreign investment, outspoken Russian oligarch Oleg Deripaska has said. “There will be no money already next year, we need foreign investors,” he said at an economic conference in Siberia Thursday, according to comments reported by TASS, a Russian state-owned news agency. “
AdLib29 minutes ago
I could envision a total take over of Russia by China or some other uber rich entity. That would be…well, i don’t know what, but not good for THEM anyway.
choicelady
28 minutes ago
Ad was watching Lawarnce last night where he had someone from Yale pointing that out.
twilson117
28 minutes ago
I keep reading that Putin is near death. I think that’s true. Then what?
choicelady
27 minutes ago
TW – When Trump announced in 2015, he leaned on racism. This time, swimming in a sea of insanity, he can only spew insanity and wild BS as his “platform”. I can’t wait to see DeSantis and Trump destroy each other and the GOP next year!
AdLib27 minutes ago
Ad Russia’s economy is in the dumps.
twilson117
27 minutes ago
TW – Yep, they will cheer Trump’s insanity as they always have but with even Fox News tuning him out, I think his cult of the insane is only shrinking.
AdLib26 minutes ago
Ad what I was referring to is Trump paid people to show up for his announcement and yes his entire campaign was on racism and this one will be as well.
twilson117
26 minutes ago
Back after the dissolution of the USSR I was in Poland where people were excited but dirt poor. A friend went to work w Russian women on a bill of rights for women, and her hosts, two senior university professors, lived on potatoes. Because she had access to GUM, the big department store for foreigners only, she bought them a ton of food, REAL food, to thank them. This is going to be MUCH worse for Russia than even those dark days.
choicelady
25 minutes ago
CL….there are provisions in the Russian State Constitution for an orderly maintenance of authority and centralized control via a national steering committee…no clear or clean succession.
MurphTheSurf3
25 minutes ago
CL – That’s perfect! Yes, Trump is acting like he’s running for High School President! You hit the bullseye!
AdLib25 minutes ago
Murph – in that void lies the abyss.
choicelady
25 minutes ago
Correction, AD – JUNIOR HIGH class president!
choicelady
24 minutes ago
CL – I think CPAC is really hurting and Schlapp has to save his money for defense attorneys.
AdLib24 minutes ago
CL…and I believe that Russia recognizes that offers by China to help out are like the time the cat invited the mouse to hide out in his mouth.
MurphTheSurf3
24 minutes ago
Ad = I find I really don’t care, do you?
choicelady
23 minutes ago
All is that why Putin stays away from widows?
twilson117
23 minutes ago
the defenestration of Putin?
MurphTheSurf3
23 minutes ago
TW- that seems to be the case. Or casement…
choicelady
23 minutes ago
CL – I wake up every morning hoping to hear that Putin is dead and Trump is indicted. Hopefully, both will be soon.
AdLib23 minutes ago
Murph – took the words right out of my mouth!
choicelady
23 minutes ago
Ad, dreams have been know to come true.
twilson117
22 minutes ago
CL you would have presented them far more artfully than I.
MurphTheSurf3
22 minutes ago
Ad – SOON. Jack Smith is calling Rudy to the Grand Jury. THAT is the TOP consigliere!
choicelady
22 minutes ago
Murph – you put it perfectly!
choicelady
22 minutes ago
CL I can’t wait for that to happen.
twilson117
22 minutes ago
TW – which? The defenstration of Putin or the indictment of Trump – or both?
choicelady
21 minutes ago
CL both.
twilson117
21 minutes ago
TW – same!
choicelady
21 minutes ago
CL – Unfortunately, a majority in Russia is either brainwashed or apathetic, they must suffer because Putin doesn’t care about them. Very MAGA like, as Repubs plot to steal SS, Medicare, ACA, etc. from their voters, their voters cheer them on because they’re propagandized.
AdLib21 minutes ago
There will always be the lazy, Ad. The mainline Russians are getting well and truly fed up.’
choicelady
20 minutes ago
CL – I stand corrected, Junior High President. Or, is that giving him too much prestige, maybe Elementary School President?
AdLib20 minutes ago
Ad – I don’t remember having presidents in elementary school. So I’d have to go Jr. High.
choicelady
19 minutes ago
Ad Playground bully
twilson117
19 minutes ago
Well…..friends…time for me to take to my bed…..
MurphTheSurf3
19 minutes ago
CL – The GOP and so many of their people like Schlapp, Bannon, Giuliani, and Trump are all on the verge of destruction. Just seems a matter of time.
AdLib19 minutes ago
TW – yup. Wasn’t that an issue in why Trump got sent to military school? He hurt some kids.
choicelady
19 minutes ago
CL yep.
twilson117
18 minutes ago
Good night, Murph – get rest and have a lovely weekend!
choicelady
18 minutes ago
Take care Murph
twilson117
18 minutes ago
Have a great weekend, Murph!
AdLib18 minutes ago
I think, althought I COULD SEE tonight, I’m finding my eyes burning, so I shall push on, too. See you next week!
choicelady
18 minutes ago
CL…you mean the NY Military Academy that Trump has claimed was as good as his having actually been in the army….want a loon.
MurphTheSurf3
18 minutes ago
CL take care.
twilson117
17 minutes ago
CL – I have immense confidence in Jack Smith but I think Fani Willis will beat him to the punch!
AdLib17 minutes ago
Murp[h -yeah, that school. That “military experience”.
choicelady
17 minutes ago
Ad for me I will take either one.
twilson117
17 minutes ago
Ad – I think Smith and Willis are in collaboration on who gets his carcass first.
choicelady
17 minutes ago
Good night all – see you in a week!
choicelady
17 minutes ago
CL – I saw polling showing that the majority of Russians fall into those two categories, pro-Putin propagandized and apathetic.
AdLib16 minutes ago
Take good care Ad and TW….p.s. we three should do a video converation again….our first one was so energizing!
MurphTheSurf3
16 minutes ago
I think Willis is farther along and has a more focused case. Jack Smith has a massive case though he could surprise us with indicting Trump on the documents case soon.
AdLib15 minutes ago
Murph would like to do that again.
twilson117
15 minutes ago
Murph – Yes, I’d like that!
AdLib15 minutes ago
AD…would you organize it…you are my tech guru.
MurphTheSurf3
14 minutes ago
We can invite others but we’ll need to have an electronic talking stick!
AdLib14 minutes ago
Murph – Sure, I can put that together!
AdLib14 minutes ago
Ad…that would be fun but tricky…..who else do you think might be interested?
MurphTheSurf3
13 minutes ago
Murph – I think CL would be on board for that!
AdLib13 minutes ago
The zoom platforms have mechanisms for group conversation….I am aware of them but have no idea how to access them
MurphTheSurf3
13 minutes ago
Ad that sounds great.
twilson117
13 minutes ago
I would LOVE to see CL.
MurphTheSurf3
13 minutes ago
Maybe we can get PPO on board too!
AdLib12 minutes ago
Ad….this is getting exciting.
MurphTheSurf3
12 minutes ago
I feel like we are on the edge of a moon launch.
MurphTheSurf3
11 minutes ago
We’ll have a bigger audience than CPAC!
AdLib11 minutes ago
Just watching images from CPAC of keynote speakers……empty auditorium…seriously.
MurphTheSurf3
11 minutes ago
Ad now that’s funny
twilson117
11 minutes ago
One thing for sure, we will have one far more intelligent than those at CPAC
twilson117
10 minutes ago
Murph – It is a fact! CPAC is Crazy People Alone for Certain.
AdLib9 minutes ago
TW…..we could be sound asleep…and still have better interaction than the CCrappers
MurphTheSurf3
9 minutes ago
We have more people on Vox now than CPAC had all day!
AdLib9 minutes ago
Murph you are so correct.
twilson117
9 minutes ago
Well….Ad, are you up for it? You are our tech guru.
MurphTheSurf3
8 minutes ago
Sure, I can set it up. Only question is if everyone is onboard with video or if anyone prefers just audio.
AdLib7 minutes ago
Ad I’m okay with video
twilson117
7 minutes ago
Ad….I vote for video…..actually easier to handle the group with a video format…visual cues and flagging.
MurphTheSurf3
7 minutes ago
Makes sense that video is better for a group discussion, we could do Zoom. Will ask PPO and CL.
AdLib6 minutes ago
Sounds like a plan.
twilson117
5 minutes ago
Ad…..the work you would do could be a template for future “gatherings” I think we all need each other for support and inspiration. The Planet is the one social media contact that I never doubt.
MurphTheSurf3
5 minutes ago
Murph – It would be great to be able to set it up then build on it.
AdLib4 minutes ago
Ad…a newish venture for sure.
MurphTheSurf3
4 minutes ago
Hey guys I need to bug out. Ad looking forward to what you come up with. Take care.
twilson117
3 minutes ago
With those exciting plans in the works…my good night is hardy one. Huzzah
MurphTheSurf3
3 minutes ago
Yep! I think it would be best to do on a different day than Vox, not supplanting Vox but a new feature. Would the weekend make sense to both of you? Like a Sunday afternoon? Or would weekday be better?
AdLib3 minutes ago
So long TW.
MurphTheSurf3
3 minutes ago
Night.
twilson117
3 minutes ago
Night!
AdLib2 minutes ago
Ad….I really like the idea of a Sunday Afternoon…but calendar complications might make another evening better.
MurphTheSurf3
2 minutes ago
Until we speak again…..
MurphTheSurf3
a few seconds ago
Right! Night!
AdLibin a few seconds
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