Vox Populi, our weekly live chat about the week’s events, begins tonight at 7:00pm PDT. Hope to see you then!
AdLib 3 hours ago
Hey TW!
AdLib 2 hours ago
Hey Ad, Rainbow Unicorns?
twilson117 2 hours ago Heh! Thanks for the read!
AdLib 2 hours ago
How are things your way?
AdLib 2 hours ago
Hi glenn!
AdLib 2 hours ago
Just finished your post, but need to go back make sure I got it all.
twilson117 2 hours ago Hey Glenn
twilson117 2 hours ago Hi Ad, TW! How is everyone tonight?
glenn 2 hours ago Glenn doing ok
twilson117 2 hours ago TW – Appreciate it! I started out thinking I was going to write a firebrand piece and after coming up with a more amusing title, I just decided to have a little fun writing it.
AdLib 2 hours ago
Glad to hear it, TW.
glenn 2 hours ago I’m doing fine, glenn. Glad you made it!
AdLib 2 hours ago
So what do you all think of Pat Cipolone meeting with the select committee today?
twilson117 2 hours ago Ad–yeah glad to be here. I probably won’t stay long, but thought I’d say hi to the early birds.
glenn 2 hours ago Ad–I hope he threw the TLB under the bus!
glenn 2 hours ago We won’t know till next week. Have my dvr set to record some I get it all.
twilson117 2 hours ago I think Cipollone was backed into a corner by Hutchinson’s testimony, he knows he could be in legal trouble if he kept hiding info from the 1/6 committee. He’s confirming her stories I bet.
AdLib 2 hours ago
glenn – Always nice to see you even if you’re just popping by!
AdLib 2 hours ago
I agree
twilson117 2 hours ago I did hear from one of the Dems on the committee that he didn’t take the 5th at all. He may have claimed Executive Privilege in some cases but he can’t when it comes to conversations with Meadows or Hutchinson.
AdLib an hour ago
What do you think of Graham trying to defy the subpoena from GA?
glenn an hour ago And you don’t have an 8 hour hearing with someone who isn’t giving you answers.
AdLib an hour ago
Glenn I think Graham is toast and he knows it. He had no business calling anyone in Georgia unless it was a friend to say hi.
twilson117 an hour ago Next week’s hearings ought to be interesting.
glenn an hour ago glenn – Graham is just playing the Trump game of stall, stall, stall. He knows he’s likely in big trouble, if not individually, maybe he’d be caught up if they file a RICO case. It’s always about stalling but since this is a GA case, nothing that stalling will accomplish except possibly delay the indictments until after Nov’s election.
AdLib an hour ago
Ad–He (Graham) was only trying to protect the integrity of our elections, dontcha know? Noble person that he is and all.
glenn an hour ago Graham was clearly calling GA at the behest of Trump and when that is confirmed, Graham IS guilty as part of the conspiracy. As things are now, he was subtle enough in the conversation to slip out of a criminal charge…but not if his call was on behalf and at the orders of Trump as a RICO target.
AdLib an hour ago
Ad Bannon is saying Trump** might wave privilege so he can testify to the 1/6 committee. All the people are saying it’s a ploy so Bannon will be disruptive since there are no Jordans on the committee to interrupt every 10 seconds.
twilson117 an hour ago glenn – I can’t wait for next week’s hearings, the noose around Trump’s neck will be tightened as they show the connections between Trump’s campaign and the militias that headed up the insurgency and attack. This is real sick stuff!
AdLib an hour ago
Ad–so do you think he will testify? Speaking of Nov. elections, is Graham up for reelection this year?
glenn an hour ago Ad I don’t think Graham was all that subtle, when he suggested not counting absentee ballots
twilson117 an hour ago glenn – Heh! Graham wouldn’t recognize integrity if it was plastered on a wall in front of his face.
AdLib an hour ago
Glenn integrity and Graham are an oxymoron.
twilson117 an hour ago Ad–You may be correct as far as RICO charges go, but I don’t see this DOJ bringing those charges aganst either the TLB or Graham.
glenn an hour ago Ad and TW–LOL!
glenn an hour ago TW – First, the 1/6 committee should say, “He can’t waive privilege because he’s not president but if you want to testify ON OUR TERMS, we invite you to do so. It appears now that the Trump crooks have all circulated the same game, that they will agree to testify as long as it’s on their terms, on live tv without initial depositions. Nope, this is all a ploy to blow up the hearings, they know better than to let the hearings be blown up by these henchmen.
AdLib an hour ago
glenn – In the end, no, I don’t think Bannon testifies, this is all a manipulative game.
AdLib an hour ago
Ad yes, it’s certainly that.
twilson117 an hour ago glenn – Or do you mean Graham? Yes, I think Graham will lose his appeals to avoid testifying but if he does, I think he’ll just take the 5th and claim he had to because he doesn’t think he should testify.
AdLib an hour ago
Ad–I hope you’re correct about the committee. So far, they’ve done a great job of keeping the hearings on track and letting the people and the facts speak for themselves.
glenn an hour ago Unfortunately, Graham isn’t up for re-election until 2026, he was allegedly re-elected in 2020.
AdLib an hour ago
Glenn, I don’t believe they will let Bannon dictate terms to them.
twilson117 an hour ago Ad–Yes, I meant Graham, but I think you’re right about Bannon too.
glenn an hour ago TW–I don’t think so either.
glenn an hour ago TW – I don’t know this for sure but I saw a couple of legal analysts say that since he only asked if large swaths of votes would be thrown out, he can hide behind “fact-finding”. Had he demanded votes been thrown out, then he would be in deep trouble.
AdLib an hour ago
glenn – You may be right about the DoJ but I would not be surprised if the DS in GA brings RICO charges.
AdLib an hour ago
DA
AdLib an hour ago
Ad–Unlike the TLB, Graham does understand the law.
glenn an hour ago Ad–from your keyboard to the GA DA’s grand jury!
glenn an hour ago Glenn he needs to worry about the ADA who set him the subpoena she doesn’t take prisoners.
twilson117 an hour ago TW–Are you talking about Graham in GA?
glenn an hour ago glenn – I think they have been brilliant and professional on the 1/6 committee, they know that these are their hearings and they know the very basic principle in hearings and trials, you never bring up a witness unless you know 100% what they’re going to say. They won’t give into Bannon, Mo Brooks or Rhodes, the Oath Keeper leader who all have demanded to be only put on live tv if the committee wants them to talk.
AdLib an hour ago
Ad–I agree with your assessment of the committee. I have been very impressed so far.
glenn an hour ago The committee has been very strategic with the way they’ve structured the hearings, they know exactly how they want to present the facts so that the full story is told. No way they would disrupt all that by letting these seditionists have free air time to spew their bile. They don’t need any of these witnesses and better to forget them than hand over power to them to undermine the hearings.
AdLib an hour ago
Ad–Agreed. The media gives these seditionists enough air time to spew their bile.
glenn an hour ago Ad he may have asked that, but I don’t think he even had the right to do that. But the DA there wants him to come down and explain and I get the feeling when she is done with him he will confess to the Lincon assassination.
twilson117 an hour ago Hi all – lovely to see you, especially glenn. We haven’t connected for a time. Hi Ad and TW.
choicelady an hour ago Hey CL–good to “see” you!
glenn an hour ago glenn – What I have heard from legal pundits here and there is that the GA case is most likely to be the first indictment of Trump because the evidence is on tape and so clear and the fact that they’re now subpoenaing the top Trump lawyers and officials means they’re close to wrapping Grand Jury hearings and ready to indict. Maybe before Nov but if not, I’ll bet soon after.
AdLib an hour ago
Hey CL!
AdLib an hour ago
CL–How are you dong tonight?
glenn an hour ago CL good to see you could make it now the party can really get going. Ad pass out the beers.
twilson117 an hour ago TW – I think that DA could get Graham to turn on Trump to save himself. he is such a gutless coward.
AdLib an hour ago
Ad – I have heard the same. The evidence is so powerful they won’t have a problem w a conviction. That will gut Trump and weaken him. His cronies will run for the hills.
choicelady an hour ago CL – How did things go with getting the lawyer for your friend?
AdLib an hour ago
Oh, I’m sick – one of my fave people on Twitter died, and I can’t wrap my mind around it. All the good people go. The evil ones are just too mean to die.
choicelady an hour ago Beers all around!
AdLib an hour ago
Ad-I so hope you’re right. I am so sick of watching the TLB slither out of his crimes.
glenn an hour ago Ad – I GOT THE ATTORNEY! It was late Tuesday afternoon, but not only did I get one, I got a GREAT one. I’m over the moon.
choicelady an hour ago Umm ad: could I stick with wine? Not a beer drinker!
choicelady an hour ago Cl whatever floats your boat.
twilson117 an hour ago Ab–both Graham and the TLB are gutless cowards, and I would love to see Graham turn on him!
glenn an hour ago Thank you, TW!
choicelady an hour ago CL–so sorry to hear about your friend.
glenn an hour ago glenn – I’m thinking we’re about to see a lot of “the debbil made me do it” from Trump cronies.
choicelady an hour ago BTW, I had lunch with PPO this week up in SFO and we had a great time (but missed CL who had an urgent matter to handle). While we were chatting about politics (as usual), a lady at the table behind me excused herself but wanted to tell us that she is a Republican, a Rockefeller Repub, and she said she’s so upset at what has happened to the GOP…she voted for Biden and is voting Dem this year because she doesn’t see the GOP as decent anymore.
AdLib an hour ago
glenn – she was one of the most powerful Black women on Twitter. I cannot believe she’s gone.
choicelady an hour ago How cool, Ad!
choicelady an hour ago CL – Who was your friend on Twitter that passed away?
AdLib an hour ago
BRB –
choicelady an hour ago CL–that’s great news about the attorney. I hope your friend’s case wraps up soon.
glenn an hour ago What does everyone think of Musk backing out of the Twitter deal? Now Trump** will clearly not get back on Twitter and it looks like his Truth Social is in deep monkey crap.
twilson117 an hour ago CL – Wonderful news! Great job! Very happy for you and especially that poor mom.
AdLib an hour ago
CL so sorry to hear about the loss of your friend.
twilson117 an hour ago Ad – I was so sorry to miss you and PPO and to leave you rideless. Hope all went well to and from the airport. But I NEEDED to do this, and got this superb attorney JUST as she finished one case and didn’t have another commitment.
choicelady an hour ago Ad–did you buy that woman lunch? Great to hear that there are still some logical, decent repubs out there, especially repub women.
glenn an hour ago TW – the woman who died I had JUST been talking to. Had NO clue she was unwell. It’s shocking.
choicelady an hour ago That’s so sad CL
twilson117 an hour ago I am THRILLED Musk is out of Twitter. Absolutely thrilled.
choicelady an hour ago CL – It’s not quite “the fever breaking” but I think the 1/6 hearings and especially Hutchinson’s testimony were FINALLY the last straw in Trump holding out against the GOP turning on him. They are all moving over to DeSantis now and he is a monster too but he doesn’t have Trump’s charisma (if you can call it that) or celebrity from being on tv. I don’t think DeSantis has the persona to get crossover voting that Trump needed to win. But how funny to watch Trump declining and trying to hold onto power as DeSantis does his impression of Trump and tears him down.
AdLib an hour ago
CL–What a loss! We need powerful black women’s voices now more than ever, I think.
glenn an hour ago Ad – I read today that Gavin Newsom’s anti DeSantis ads are ruinging DeS. He’s polling lower than NEWSOM who isn’t even RUNNING for anything in FL!!! How cool is THAT??
choicelady an hour ago TW – Saw a joke about Musk, that only after he has all these various kids, it took Twitter for him to learn how to pull out.
AdLib an hour ago
glenn – I agree, and she was the best of the best. I will miss her terribly.
choicelady an hour ago TW–It’s good news about Musk backing out of Twitter. Guess he just ran out of gas.
glenn an hour ago Hello Glenn
twilson117 an hour ago Ad!!!! Too funny!!! I also read today he’s INCREASING parental leave and other family related matters. I thought, well, sure – half the KIDS born to employees are probably his.
choicelady an hour ago Murph is in the house
twilson117 an hour ago MURPH!!!
choicelady an hour ago 30 minutes to get connected! I have been watching the discussion though.
MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago CL – It was quick and easy to take BART from SFO then get to lunch. Not a problem at all! Far more important that you did what you did to help someone so much in need. Worked out great all the way around but we missed you of course. We already discussed doing it again next year!
AdLib an hour ago
Hello to all…..internet has been very sketchy here today.
MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago Murph – are you Comcast because the whole west coast had problems last week.
choicelady an hour ago Murph – Sorry you had difficulty getting on. Did anyone else have an issue connecting to Vox?
AdLib an hour ago
I think it was my internet and nothing more.
MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago Ad had no problems connecting.
twilson117 an hour ago Ad – the woman I hired is boffo, is EAGER to stick it to CPS and the rotten court, KNOWS the law, and has the time. I’m delighted I found her, but like looking for your wallet that turns up in the LAST place you search, she was literally the last one on the list. I LOVE her.
choicelady an hour ago CL – Now that is hilarious! DeSantis actually made a point of trying to slap back at Newsom, of course here in CA we despise DeSantis and his attacks are futile but Newsom has really gotten to him and that’s great! Meanwhile, seems clear that Newsom is looking to get in the Dem primary for President in 2024.
AdLib an hour ago
Everyne – the attorney I hired has a sense of humor. How fine is THAT?
choicelady an hour ago Murph you may want to check and see if the anti-dem-rats aren’t chewing the phone lines so you can’t connect.
twilson117 an hour ago A bit of news from Mo. There is a move on to put forth an “independent” Senate candidate (actually the person is old fashioned GOP and former Sen. Danforth is backing him). Kunce campaign trying to figure out what it would mean.
MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago Ad–the scary thing about DeSantis is that even though he’s a right-wing nutter, and a total blob,he’s much smarter than the TLB, and has much better political connections, so I wouldn’t dismiss him.
glenn an hour ago Ad – I read he is NOT running in 2024, but he’s lining himself up for 2028. At any rate, he is doing a great thing, and DeSantis is losing ground to someone NOT running against him. That’s so fine I have no words.
choicelady an hour ago CL – And Musk was being a jerk about demanding workers come into the office, especially workers with kids, or he’d fire them for working at home. Meanwhile, isn’t it likely an HR issue for Musk to have a relationship and children with an executive who works for him?
AdLib an hour ago
glenn – I actually think DeSantis has no good ties outside FL. Where is his power?
choicelady an hour ago Hey Murph–So glad I’m still here to connect with you!
glenn an hour ago Murph – Oh, well, sorry anyway, that’s very frustrating when internet service goes bad.
AdLib an hour ago
Ad – if you own the company, HR is sort of…you. It should be an issue. I doubt it is.
choicelady an hour ago Murph I believe I saw something about that last night.
twilson117 an hour ago CL – It was your determination that found her. It’s often the last one because people who are better than average are harder to find and once you find them, you stop looking.
AdLib an hour ago
CL–That’s such good news about your attorney!
glenn an hour ago Murph – isn’t this the “Utah strategy” now leading in MO? I like it. I’m fine with a moderate, non hysterical former GOP for your state.
choicelady an hour ago CL – I’ve never had a lawyer with a great sense of humor but some sure try. She may be one in a million!
AdLib an hour ago
Ad – I did get a call back from my first choice, but he’s so busy he really could not have done justice to it. She is dedicated AND available. Can’t ask better than that.
choicelady an hour ago Ad – she’s quite fun. And she openly says “F*CK” when it comes to CPS. I’m quite down with that.
choicelady an hour ago Murph – Who is it that wants an indie candidate? Repubs who don’t want Greitens? That could split the Repub vote and make way for Kunce to slip through.
AdLib an hour ago
CL….A former senior investigator for the Jan. 6 committee is making a run as an independent for Missouri’s open U.S. Senate seat.
MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago CL and Ad–guess I’m too close to the problem (DeSantis), so I’m glad to hear DeSantis is seen as the arsehole he really is outside of FL.
glenn an hour ago GO for it, Murph. What is your sense of the impact of this?
choicelady an hour ago glenn – the good news is that DeSantis is now being seen for the asshole he is IN Florida. More and more people are walking away in disgust.