Vox Populi – 04-09-2021

Vox Populi, our weekly live chat about the week’s events begins tonight at 7:00pm PDT. Hope to see you then! AdLib 3 hours ago

Hey PPO! AdLib 2 hours ago

Hi Ad! Raining buckets here now pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

Hope you’re both staying warm and dry! AdLib 2 hours ago

Oh, yes. Autumn here now, so days shortening and cooler weather pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

Very warm here in LA, already air conditioning weather. AdLib 2 hours ago

Murph, glenn, Hi pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

glenn!!! You’ve been missed! AdLib 2 hours ago

Hey Murph! AdLib 2 hours ago

Hey,,,,there,,…and howdy to Glenn….I was just going to five a progress report but here you are! MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

yes, glenn, how are you? pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

PPO…and on the other side of the world the opposite is happening. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

Good evening all. Thank you all for your kind words, and for your email, Murph. I just couldn’t stay awake long enough for VOX, but I did read every word of it the next morning in the archives. Anyway, glad to be back. glenn 2 hours ago

I may not last long here tonight. We will see. Planting is a killer for these old bones. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

Yes, Murph. 24/7 coverage of the late Prince Phhilip.. pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

Looks like Gaetz is going to get indicted before Trump. Who bet on that? AdLib 2 hours ago

Glenn….you are a Georgia Peach! MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

glenn – Glad you’re here tonight! AdLib 2 hours ago

Ad, I think DOJ will be very, very careful how and when to drop the hammer on the previous guy. pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

PPO….I am a fan of the British Monarch…..but, c’mon….24/7 coverage….what can they cover? MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

Murph – How much more time will you need to finish planting? AdLib 2 hours ago

PPO–How is Prince Phillip perceived there? He certainly had a long life. glenn 2 hours ago

Ad…..two weeks….and then crop maintenance starts…..it really is…work, work, work from now until the late fall. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

Endless video of visits, ceremonies, BS talking ‘Royal experts’, you know, the stuff they trot out when they can’t defend our current PM from the Vaccine SNAFU pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

Ad–I’m wondering if the RTLB is ever going to get indicted! So, yeah, Gaetz will be first, I think. glenn 2 hours ago

PPO – I don’t think DoJ is looking at Trump. I know the DC AG is and Fulton County DA in GA and the Manhattan DA as well as the NY AG. I thought Trump might be indicted by now, they’ve been investigating him for quite a while. AdLib 2 hours ago

Murph–and you are the farmer that planted this GA peach in the Planet! glenn 2 hours ago

Thanks, Ad. It’s nice to be back. glenn 2 hours ago

Glenn…how very, very, very kind of you. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

glenn,and we so much enjoy the fruits of that!

pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

PPO…ah, smoke screens….that I can see. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

PPO–That’s a good point as far as the feds go. What happened to all those state indictments that were supposed to drop the minute the RTLB was out of office? glenn 2 hours ago

Murph – I have absolutely no interest in a 99 year old royal dying. He got elite healthcare to get him to that age and what did he really contribute to the lives of others. Not a fan of “royalty” because it’s a fraud. AdLib 2 hours ago

Murph–if you recall, it was our “meeting” on Huffington Post that led you to recommend the Planet to me, and the rest is history! glenn 2 hours ago

glenn, he is now an irritation from the past that they will eventually get to when the country is a bit more settled. House and Senate traitors surely have more priority? pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

Murph – Pretty impressive. AdLib 2 hours ago

PPO–thanks. glenn 2 hours ago

Phil the Greek was respected here, not adored. Younger generations are moving toward a Republic here, soon. Probably when Her Maj joins her husband pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

glenn – Yep, it’s only April though and we know the Grand Jury in Fulton County, GA is already at work as are the other three investigators. As PPO mentioned, no doubt they want to cross every “t” and dot every “i” since they will be making history of indicting the first president in American history. AdLib 2 hours ago

And the Manhattan DA just subpoenaed boxes of financial and other information from the daughter of Trump’s CFO. So that should be moving things along. AdLib 2 hours ago

PPO–I don’t know about him only being an “irritation”. Call me vindictive and/or nasty, but I want to see that SOB humiliated, beaten down, and in some kind of confinement for the rest of his life. And his three oldest kids, too. Oh, and don’t forget broke! So, not sure if I agree with you about “priorities”; although I want to see the House and Senate traitors get their comeuppance, too. glenn 2 hours ago

Ad….agree with your observations re. PP…elite health care indeed….my support of royalty comes from time in Europe when I have experienced the wisdom inherent in having the nation represented by “first families” Elizabeth has done this very well. As has William. Charles has been acceptable….but the way the Brits do the monarchy is not nearly as acceptable as what most of the world does……so I get your position. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

Glenn…ah, the good days of HP. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

Murph, agree! Great times before they ruined it pinkpantheroz an hour ago

glenn – I think the NY AG will wait for the Manhattan DA to file charges first since that is a criminal case and hers is a civil one. AdLib an hour ago

PPO– Think her Maj will join him soon? glenn an hour ago

The discussion re. the development of cases against Trump and his circle is taking the tone I take….slow and steady will win the reace. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

don’t get me wrong,glenn. I want his fat arse nailed to a tree pronto, but I want there to be no hiccups when it happens, and Joe and the DOJ have their hands pretty full pinkpantheroz an hour ago

Murph–what are your thoughts of Charles as King? And Camila as consort, or whatever she will be? I know she won’t be designated as “queen”. glenn an hour ago

glenn – Agreed, part of shutting down this ongoing GOP insurrection against our democracy will be putting Trump on trial for his crimes. It is very important that Trump is taken down. AdLib an hour ago

PPO….I look at the role of the royals during times of crisis and see what t hey can be…..can be …and too often are n ot……William strikes me as a public servant. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

glenn, sad to say, maybe. She has lost a huge rock and maybe she might even abdicate as a result. pinkpantheroz an hour ago

Glenn….Charles will be ok and his short reign will be the bridge to William who I expect to further modernize and moderate the monarchy. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

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Ad–Whichever….I thought both of them were “ready to go” once the RTLB was out of office. I’m just frustrated with how long it’s taking. However if it’s taking so long so they can dot every “i” and cross every “t” to make sure charges “stick”, then I’m willing to be patient….for a little while. glenn an hour ago

GLENN!!! So glad to see you! choicelady an hour ago

Howdy CL….Glenn is with us tonight…..hoorah! MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

glenn….3 months only! And look at what has been achieved in that time. pinkpantheroz an hour ago

CL…I see you saw. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

CL, Hi!’ pinkpantheroz an hour ago

Ad–exactly. The RTLB is culpable for that insurrection, and Dems can NOT let him, or his lying sycophants in Congress whitewash the insurrection. glenn an hour ago

Murph – I’ve been moderated about the Royal family for the most part but we should keep in mind that the theory is that God has both chosen them to lead and speaks through them. They are supposed to be regarded as superior to other people. And of course, the ground truth is the elitism and classism that they perpetuate. So as a whole, I dislike the concept of “royals”. AdLib an hour ago

Hey CL! AdLib an hour ago

So everyone hello – but a BIG apology to Khirad from last week over letting my own experience with faux Satanists color my response to him. I am deeply sorry. It was a biased and personal account, and he deserves way better than what I said. choicelady an hour ago

Hi – AD, Murph, PPO. Glad to see you , too. Glenn are you OK? Missed you a lot. choicelady an hour ago

PPO–Hmm, never though of abdication, although I know that’s been discussed for years. That would be interesting if she does; although, IMO, if she does abdicate, I think that would hasten her end. glenn an hour ago

CL–thank you; it’s good to be back. glenn an hour ago

Ad…that understanding of royalty is very old world and I know some hold to it….more commonly the idea is that the “state, the nation, and the people” are represented outside of politics by those whose heritage is one of service to the people……the ideal. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Is anyone as disgusted as me that some fucker on Fox, accused Megyn and Harry for PP’s passing? pinkpantheroz an hour ago

PPO nearly everything on Fox disgust me…..including your example. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

PPO – Fox is sick in the head and heart. I pay them no mind. 99 years old? Probably natural causes no matter what. choicelady an hour ago

Murph, I only see that on Twitter, don’t have cable. God only knows what other filth they spread. pinkpantheroz an hour ago

CL….Khirad’s article on satanism made for interesting reading for me. I tossed in a bit about my own experience. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

glenn – I know that the Manhattan DA (Vance) case brought on a top prosecutor and has only this year received Trump’s tax returns and financial documents so there is a lot to go through and investigate. The NY AG, Letitia James, is the one who said she had dozens of charges to drop on Trump so I’m thinking she’s communicating wigh Vance and may be holding off her civil charges for Vance to make his criminal charges first. AdLib an hour ago

PPO–Yes, the achievements are wonderful. Personally, I think President Biden’s best appointment is his press secretary, Jen Psaki. She is a gem! However, as I said before, the RTLB has made me a vindictive, bitter person, and I want him taken down sooner rather than later. glenn an hour ago

Ad – I have no trouble w the Royals since they live off their own income save for Elizabeth’s duties in government, and they pay taxes. They have long been a source of support to the people, and they earn their keep doing Good Works the people like. I’ve asked very lefty friends who think they family is pretty OK. They haven’t had real power since the Glorious Revolution., choicelady an hour ago

CL – I think he would appreciate the thoughts. He wrote an article on his views and experience on Stanism which was published here this week, you can check that out to see more of his insights. AdLib an hour ago

Philip appears to have been the shepherd for the family as Elizabeth focused on the nation and the commonwealth…..that appeared to have worked relatively well given how messed up so many of the royals are as people. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Oh, thanks, Ad. I didn’t see it. I will find a way to tell him in person I am really sorry for knee jerking him. choicelady an hour ago

Murph – If that is old world understanding of the royals, why do they continue to exist today as superior and elitist leaders based only upon birth? AdLib an hour ago

CL…that is a good reading of the Royals and their Place. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Murph – I think the really effed up part of the family are the “cousins” who have been tossed on their own resources and come from rather overbred stock. No use for them. They’re snots. choicelady an hour ago

Ad–I hope you’re correct about the NY investigations. As I told PPO, I’m just being a vindictive bitch, but I’m entitled to be one, after living through the RTLB’s “reign” for four plus years. glenn an hour ago

CL, The Royal Firm is Britain’s number one tourist attraction. Also great tabloid fodder for lies, innuendo and, occasionally, a true scandal! Juicy! pinkpantheroz an hour ago

Ad…the idea of placement by birth is all about bloodline and nothing more. That line has been considerably narrowed over time and the far too human face of the monarchy made more and more public. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Ad – the Queen has Constitutional powers we should all understand, but they are present as a source of support and inspiration not power. Theirs is very circumscribed. They are NOT supported by tax dollars but by their own businesses. They pay taxes like everyone else. Nobody owns the Palace – it’s the nation’s property. They just get to hang out in it. choicelady an hour ago

glenn, totally with you on wanting then pillock to suffer, bigly! pinkpantheroz an hour ago

CL…the network of those related to the core royal family is as you suggest. Have I shared with you how I came to experience the queen of Holland while working in Amsterdam? Julianna cycled to the market every day with two police officers following so she could do here daily m arketing. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

PPO – I’ve been to England twice and never have seen more than the changing of the guard. I love the ties to the past, and London would be a lot more dismal without the Royals. choicelady an hour ago

Murph–and it seems that those who want to broaden that bloodline, rather than narrow it, like Harry, are “punished” and shunned. I may be way off the mark; but that’s the way I see it. glenn an hour ago

CL – I understood that the UK government pays all kinds of money on behalf of the royals. Whether they really make a difference that is more than spending all that money they have on social programs, is up for debate. The UK can continue to sustain having royals, it’s up to them of course but the concept to me and the message it sends to a society is what I consider. AdLib an hour ago

Any reactions to the ongoing shootings here? And this is at a time when the NRA is under a lot of pressure and we still remain frozen. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Juliana is the Diana of her nation, Murph! choicelady an hour ago

The Firm personally own Millions of acres in the UK, also in Montana! The British land wasn’t bought from previous owners! pinkpantheroz an hour ago

Glenn….sadly I think that Harry has married Diana II. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Murph – I am appalled that once again mass shootings are on the rise. BTW I learned the Black Muslim who attacked the Capitol was in sync w Farrakhan who is a TRUMP SUPPORTER. choicelady an hour ago

glenn – Not at all, you’re being someone who values the importance of justice and the US being a country of laws where no one is above them. That is principled. AdLib an hour ago

Okay, folks, I’m about worn out…so nice chatting with you all again. I hope everyone has a wonderful weekend and hopefully, I’ll chat with you all again next week. Take care, everyone. glenn an hour ago

CL…Julianna as Diana….I would have to think on that. Julianna abdicated when she got too old to do the job….it is their way…..I was never a huge fan of DIana. I think she was naive initially and then unscrupulous later. Not a great fan. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Glenn…so nice to see you. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

SO good to see you, however briefly, glenn. Take care and e well! choicelady an hour ago

cl, how can any POC support previous guy? Thank goodness I never was part of any cult pinkpantheroz an hour ago

‘night glenn. Stay safe and well pinkpantheroz an hour ago

Murph – Diana won me over with her advocacy for people w AIDS, for her anti land mines work, and her genuine interaction with ordianry people. I didn’t like her at first. She grew as a woman and as a human being. choicelady an hour ago

CL…I saw that regarding The Nation of Islam…yes, makes his cred as a Muslim less than credible. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Murph–Diana II in what way(s)? glenn an hour ago

Murph – I’ve given up expecting reason from any extremists. choicelady an hour ago

Murph, can Joe keep up the pressure on gun SAFETY and make it stick? Now IS the right time to talk about it. pinkpantheroz an hour ago

PPO- I think Joe can do anything. We are pretty hungry for a decent leader. choicelady an hour ago

CL…I found her AIDS work, land mine removal advocacy, and public style admirable and endearing as well….still I believe here to be a cynical user of others and when she and Charles broke up here days of promoting causes were old news. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Funk!!!!!!!! long time no see! pinkpantheroz an hour ago

‘Nite glenn an hour ago

Murph – I get it and as I said, continuing the tradition of the royals should be up to the Brits but I personally oppose any elevation of people as superior as a principle. As for the tourism, social works, etc., it is what it is and certainly my view shouldn’t make a difference there but I think it’s a bit of a charade that makes a poor statement about classism. AdLib an hour ago

Glenn…Diana loved being loved and the center of attention…..without being aware of the impact of her demands. BTW, Charles was also a Cad. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Hey Funk! Glad you could pop by! AdLib an hour ago

Hey all, long time no see! funksands an hour ago

Is it REALLY AND TRULY, THE ONE AND ONLY….FUNK SANDS! MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Murph, I can’t stand Charles and his tart. pinkpantheroz an hour ago

No room for two of us funksands an hour ago

AND Funk has sought asylum at the Saudi Consulate? Or has infiltrated it? MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Murph – that’s as may be, but how could ANY woman put up with the clear infidelity he perpetuated? He and Camilla should have married young. They didn’t because he wanted his bachelorhood. He picked a naive girl to wed, and then dissed who she was. It was a rotten mess. But I did think she handled her issues well and matured well. choicelady an hour ago

Happy April to everyone. Everybody vaccinated? funksands an hour ago

FUNK!!!!!!! How superb to see you!!! choicelady an hour ago

What is bugging you these days, funk, apart from everything? pinkpantheroz an hour ago

Murph I don’t think I changed my location since the last time I was here. funksands an hour ago

Well well Choicelady is a name I haven’t seen in a long long time. Hi! funksands an hour ago

Funk – I am fully vaccinated and even – gasp ATE OUT at an INDOOR restaurant last week. My life is complete. choicelady an hour ago

Oh good for you! funksands an hour ago

CL…I understand all of that…but Diana was playing a similar game…infidelity swinging in both directions. Of course, the absurd thing was that had Charles been allowed to do as he wished he would have allowed to marry a divorcee……absurd. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

I think a companion tragedy to the recent shootings is that as long as Joe Manchin continues to be a selfish person and Kyrsten Sinema keeps playing her BS games, no gun legislation can pass, Repubs can destroy democracy in state after state and there will be no immigration bill, among many things that need to be done. AdLib an hour ago

My oldest got their second shot yesterday, I’m very happy funksands an hour ago

How are you and the family? Have you moved from Bellevue because my step daughter and her family just moved there. choicelady an hour ago

Yep you can have the filibuster or you can fight climate change, not both. funksands an hour ago

Funk…that explains it….you have been undercover for all this time. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

cl Wow, fully jabbed! Fergie and I see our jabs coming maybe December if we’re lucky. Total SNAFU on Vacciines here pinkpantheroz an hour ago

Nope still here knocking around. funksands an hour ago

PPO – that is AWFUL to read! I am so very sorry! choicelady an hour ago

Funk – I’m half vaccinated so I am wearing half a mask and standing on one leg when I am 6 ft away from people. AdLib an hour ago

It’s puzzling how far behind on vaccines that Aussie is funksands an hour ago

This all feels like a grand old reunion! MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Funk – if we get up there, we will DEFINITELY have to meet this time! choicelady an hour ago

Oh nice! almost there Ad. Just stop breathing to be safe. funksands an hour ago

Ad…quite an image. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

I’d love that. Please do funksands an hour ago

Murph – Grand, yes. OLD – watch it, buster. choicelady an hour ago

Ad, welcome to the Masons! pinkpantheroz an hour ago

I’d love for you to meet my wife, you’d get along with her well funksands an hour ago

Funk – I only breathe at home, to be safe. AdLib an hour ago

CL…HAH!

MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Ad – you are a wise man to hold your breath while out. choicelady an hour ago

Funk – I can’t wait to meet you all. choicelady an hour ago

I wish…….. sigh pinkpantheroz an hour ago

Did they move to Bellevue for work CL? funksands an hour ago

Funk….where is your focus these days…..your insights here are very much missed…what is at your core now? MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Funk – I must say that I have thought of you every time the Repubs lean back on the horror of deficit spending, as they predictably are now when it comes to the infrastructure bill. AdLib an hour ago

PPO – Oh, so that’s how you become a Mason! AdLib an hour ago

Funk – they are remote, so they moved to Bellevue because they had friends and left Phoenix because it was 120 degrees every summer! They LOVE Bellevue and the whole area. choicelady an hour ago

CL – I had to hold my breath for four years, holding it for just a trip to the market is a cakewalk. AdLib an hour ago

Murph, I have been nose to the grindstone building my firm for the last 4 years. We just opened another office in Seattle and then the pandemic hit, wife got cancer and everything went haywire last year funksands an hour ago

Funk….that explains a lot……your wife’s cancer? where is that now? MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

But, wife now cancer free, business never better and if I can just keep my youngest from failing out of remote high school, we’ll be set! funksands an hour ago

AD =

choicelady an hour ago

Funk…asked and answered! MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Funk, Well, well done pinkpantheroz an hour ago

Funk – so GLAD to hear your wife is OK. choicelady an hour ago

6 months cancer free! She got diagnosed the day of the nursing homes COVID cases we were in the hospital when they were wheeling in seniors on gurneys. Very scary funksands an hour ago

Funk – So sorry your wife and all of you had to deal with cancer in the midst of everything else but so glad she’s cancer free now and that your business is doing so well! AdLib an hour ago

Hello everyone sorry for being late was having some problems logging in for some reason. twilson117 an hour ago

Funk – that would have been AWFUL. I am so sorry you wen through that AND happy she’s OK now. choicelady an hour ago

TW, Hi! pinkpantheroz an hour ago

Hi TW! choicelady an hour ago

Meet our longtime friend, Funksands. He popped in after a long hiatus. Hail, hail, the gang’s all here! choicelady an hour ago

Funk….my co-op worked hard to work for safety measures and then inoculation in the time of COVID….the result…not a single hospitalization or death…..it can be done, even in MO. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Thanks it was very stressful funksands an hour ago

Hi TW! Yes, I saw you appear and get knocked off repeatedly. You may need to clear your browser cache of cookies then close and restart your browser if the issue continues. Glad you’re here! AdLib an hour ago

TW….you are here to say howdy to Funk…..a great thinker, like yourself. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Hi TW nice to meet you funksands an hour ago

AdLiB did that and it seem to do the trick. I knew it had to be something on my end. twilson117 an hour ago

Murph, that’s a win for for sure funksands an hour ago

The All Star Game appears to have been moved from Atlanta to Vox Populi! AdLib an hour ago

Funk….and there was active opposition from the absurdists who compose the core Trumpistas MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Ad has your daughter graduated from Harvard yet? funksands an hour ago

Ad – well, of COURSE the All Stars are here. choicelady an hour ago

Modesty, ladies!\ pinkpantheroz an hour ago

TW – Glad you knew what to do. Who ever thought that cookies could be a problem? AdLib an hour ago

Ad….All Stars! Hah MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Murph I can’t even imagine how bad parts of MO were during all of this. We counted our lucky stars that nearly everyone around here kept their head on straight and really managed the pandemic well funksands an hour ago

PPO – I THINK with glenn gone, I’m the only Lady. And I’m utterly immodest about us all. choicelady an hour ago

Ad not necessary just dumb luck

twilson117 an hour ago

Funk – My daughter graduates (hopefully at an in-person graduation ceremony) in June then heads out to Boston for college. Not Harvard but about 10 minutes away. AdLib an hour ago

Funk, Murph kept our end up incredibly well throughout all 4 years in Red Devil territory. Enjoying the looks on their faces nowadays. pinkpantheroz an hour ago

Lady Choicelady…..a courtly bow in your direction. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Well My wife got her first shot and I’m scheduled for next week. twilson117 an hour ago

Murph to answer an earlier question I find myself working more and more on climate change and trying to get my arms around that hyper-object. Economies, markets and government are all going to look so different in the very near future, its thrilling and terrifying all at once. funksands an hour ago

Ad – I’ve known your amazing daugher since she was 7. I do NOT accept that she’s off to college in the Fall. Just don’t. choicelady an hour ago

Ad that’s great! East Coast a long way from the Golden State, she excited? funksands an hour ago

CL – Well, glenn being gone means most of the All Star Team is here. AdLib an hour ago

Ad – if you haven’t, share your proposal w Funk. choicelady an hour ago

Funk….there are still Trump Flags flying at regular intervals in my neck of the woods, along with the Stars and Bars and Christian Banners. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

TW – Dumb luck is better than bad luck any day! AdLib an hour ago

Murph – I will not, under ANY circumstances, accept that God has a flag. Denomination might. God? NO WAY. choicelady an hour ago

cl, which proposal have i missed? pinkpantheroz an hour ago

Ad if it wasn’t for dumb luck I wouldn’t have any twilson117 an hour ago

Well Murph, a lot of the country have entered into the long dark teatime of the soul. It’s going to be a journey to emerge out of it. I’m glad they have people like you there to help sweep up the pieces funksands an hour ago

Funk…I would enjoy reading more of your thinking on the issues you raise regarding climate change and its impact in economic, governmental and international structures. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

CL – I’m with you, I never signed up on this “time-passing” thing, for my daughter or myself for that matter. I’m thinking of filing a lawsuit. AdLib an hour ago

PPO – Ad has a proposal for water distribution that is absolutely brilliant. I’ve been trying to get contacts for him, but Funk is probably better connected than I, choicelady an hour ago

Ad – we will make it a class action lawsuit. I refuse to admit I’m as old as I am. NOBODY asked my permission on that. choicelady an hour ago

I’d love to Murph. Lot to talk about funksands an hour ago

Choice….I see the grouping of those flags as a credal statement, a very desperate effort to have THE TRUTH, as they understand it, win out. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Hey PPO twilson117 an hour ago

Oh, OK. Hope water is better husbanded there than here. I mean, Australia is one of the driest continents, yet someone thought it a good idea to grow millions of square miles of COTTON!!!! pinkpantheroz an hour ago

Funk – Yes, she’s excited to a degree but her focus now is spending the most time with her friends before she goes away. But she already has a friend going to Wellesley and other friends going to college in Boston so she will not be starting from scratch there. AdLib an hour ago

hi tw pinkpantheroz an hour ago

Murph – that is a great summation of the desperation of those flags. choicelady an hour ago

Funk, do you still have my e mail? MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Pink I think Arizona is the biggest cotton producer in the US, Australia doesn’t have a monopoly on dumb funksands an hour ago

Ad, that’s great that she has connections there. funksands an hour ago

PPO – CA isn’t water abundant so what do we grow? RICE and COTTON both. Insanity prevails. choicelady an hour ago

Murph I’m not sure. You should give it to me again. Best one to get ahold of me at is autchaney@comcast.net. Send it there funksands an hour ago

How do you get past the greed and power to evoke change? beats me pinkpantheroz an hour ago

CL – I will share my proposal with Funk as well as folks here. To everyone else, I drafted a proposal for a climate change damage mitigation project based on existing technology that would save billions in damage from droughts and floods if implemented. AdLib an hour ago

Funk…despite this state having moved into the solid red category from a purple stance just 10 years ago, the GOP controlled government continues to threaten the voting rights of those in our cities, who tend to be Democrats…and crazy thinking continues to be raised hight. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

TW – I’ll take dumb luck any day of the week. AdLib 44 minutes ago

All – Ad’s proposal for water mitigation if ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT. choicelady 44 minutes ago

Funk…will do MurphTheSurf3 44 minutes ago

Ad…I would enjoy reading your climate remediation plan. MurphTheSurf3 43 minutes ago

Ad, cl, I wish I knew people here to forward your proposal to. Might the Green Party be interested? pinkpantheroz 43 minutes ago

Hello Funksands twilson117 43 minutes ago

Murph, these things never “work themselves out” the sooner the left, center and independent right figure out that this political fight is to the “death” the better. funksands 43 minutes ago

CL – I will add you to the suit. The big hurdle though is to find someone who will serve a subpoena to The Universe. AdLib 43 minutes ago

Hi TW, pleasure funksands 42 minutes ago

Ad, I’d really love to see that climate change proposal. Very interested funksands 42 minutes ago

Funk were you on yabberz? twilson117 42 minutes ago

Funk….I do hope you will have the time to stop here from time to time in the future. This little meeting each week is one of the best things happening on line almost anywhere. MurphTheSurf3 42 minutes ago

PPO – hard to know about the Greens. They may see it as an existential threat to their plans to end capitalism. It involves accepting certain systems in place and mitigating the worst of the climate impacts while we find REAL overall solutions. Moderation is never popular w Greens or DSA types. choicelady 42 minutes ago

I was! Long agoooooo funksands 42 minutes ago

I remember twilson117 42 minutes ago

Murph, Agree totally. This place is the best. pinkpantheroz 41 minutes ago

Funk – Yes, nice that she won’t be in a situation where she won’t know anyone when she gets there. And when we come out to see her, maybe we’ll be fortunate enough to meet with TW. AdLib 41 minutes ago

Funk, the effort here is to ghettoize the Democratic Party and choke it our of influence of any kind. MurphTheSurf3 41 minutes ago

Oh Murph I’d love to. Usually I’m burnt to a cinder by Friday so its hard to do much of anything. If Ad hadn’t double-dog dared me, I’d probably be taking a nap funksands 41 minutes ago

Ad – isn’t that the work of the Space Force? Serving intergallactic subpoenas? I mean, if not them, who? choicelady 40 minutes ago

Funk….We tend to stick to an hour which works for me too. What I have learned is that the energy of discussion enlivens me. MurphTheSurf3 40 minutes ago

Well, peeps, I’ll say sayonara for this week. Always a joy. Nice to see old/new faces. More please! byeee pinkpantheroz 40 minutes ago

CL – Thanks for the high praise for the proposal, means a great deal coming from you. AdLib 40 minutes ago

Murph, #TeamScum knows the score. They know that this is a raw battle of political power to the death. They are playing for high stakes, real tangible power, while our side (with some exceptions) wants to win the “fact” discussion funksands 39 minutes ago

PPO….blessings and peace to you and your better half! MurphTheSurf3 39 minutes ago

Pink, have a lovely evening. funksands 39 minutes ago

Take care PPO twilson117 39 minutes ago

Murph – that is a universal goal of the RW Libertarians. Anyone want to see the hand upon the tiller of our RW future, take a read of Nancy Maclean’s “Democracy in Chains”. That and Jeff Sharlet’s “The Family” are the two “must reads” about creeping fascism. choicelady 39 minutes ago

Thanks all. Fergie says hi pinkpantheroz 39 minutes ago

CL, I read that not too long ago. Enlightening. funksands 39 minutes ago

Good night, PPO – love to Fergie! choicelady 39 minutes ago

Funk which is why people like Mancin need to know that what they are risking in their game of even-handedness is our very future. MurphTheSurf3 38 minutes ago

Funk – it is an incredibly important book. choicelady 38 minutes ago

Murph – I think I will post it here on The Planet so you and other folks here can see it and offer thoughts and comments on it. AdLib 38 minutes ago

CL…will add both to my list. MurphTheSurf3 38 minutes ago

The context that it provides for some of our current struggles is so helpful funksands 38 minutes ago

And The Family is just a fabulous piece of work funksands 37 minutes ago

Ad…thanks…and pass it on to others. MurphTheSurf3 37 minutes ago

Funk – I’d really appreciate you, Murph and everyone else here to look over the proposal and let me know what you think and how it might be improved. AdLib 37 minutes ago

Funk – she did an amazing job linking past and present, just as Jeff Sharlet did w the religious right in The Family. They hate each other, BTW, but they have fused in the Pauls, father and son, and have a grudging alliance. They are seriously dangerous. choicelady 36 minutes ago

Just finished reading How Democracies Die by Steven Levitsky & Daniel Ziblatt twilson117 36 minutes ago

TW – that’s on my “guilt pile” of books to be read. choicelady 36 minutes ago

Ad, I’d love to throw in my two cents. I’ve got a crazy idea that I’m wondering if you guys would give a gut reaction to. It’s an example of the type of scale I’m afraid that we’ll be forced to use to address the problem funksands 36 minutes ago

Murph – The effort is basically to replace democracy with autocracy. AdLib 36 minutes ago

TW, I’ve read that. Great book funksands 36 minutes ago

Ad…an honor, a privilege. I need to run…..see you all next week. MurphTheSurf3 35 minutes ago

CL It’s and eye opener twilson117 35 minutes ago

By Murph hope to talk to you soon. funksands 35 minutes ago

Funk – The power of The Double Dog Dare should never be underestimated. AdLib 35 minutes ago

Seeya Murph! AdLib 35 minutes ago

I need to haul, too. Got again about 4 hours of sleep, so I need to turn in. LOVELY to see everyone, and an absolute DELIGHT to see you, Funk. Hope to make that in person before long. choicelady 35 minutes ago

Night CL. Absolutely. Anytime funksands 34 minutes ago

Funk some interesting points made. Especially how would be autocratics will use the democratic process to create authoritarian rule twilson117 33 minutes ago

Funk – Great! I would also like to hear your “crazy” idea. My proposal is very ambitious which is sometimes a synonym for “crazy”. But big change is needed ASAP. AdLib 33 minutes ago

TW, yep. Someone I heard called it “democracy laundering”. Keep washing democracy through autocratic filters until it no longer quite is. Democratic means to achieve autocratic outcomes funksands 32 minutes ago

Funk exactly. twilson117 31 minutes ago

TW – It’s hard to zoom out as far as needed to really see what is going on but one could argue that this effort to create an authoritarian and racist state has been in the works since the birth of this country. It has progressed and regressed in fits and starts but now it has a terrible momentum that desperately needs to be stopped. AdLib 31 minutes ago

Ad, I think the world should pay Brazil to become park rangers. Hire Brazil to maintain the Amazon in a pristine condition and then make it bigger and better. Then have them travel the globe as roving conservation rangers. GDP of Brazil is like a trillion dollars, pay them to do something else for a living like save the planet funksands 30 minutes ago

Funk – Yes, very good description. And also like the slowly heating up boiling water the frog is obliviously roasting in. AdLib 30 minutes ago

Ad at the moment I can’t argue that, it certainly feels like it. twilson117 29 minutes ago

Arguably we were headed in a very very bad direction until the Depression cropped up and FDR took over funksands 29 minutes ago

Funk, yeah right

twilson117 28 minutes ago

Funk – Very interesting proposal. But the first step would need to be prying Bolsonaro’s hands off the reins of the country. AdLib 28 minutes ago

Oh no doubt. And the whole thing about people in Brazil and whether they actually want to be park rangers. You know little things like that funksands 28 minutes ago

TW you are in Mass? funksands 27 minutes ago

Funk – They could at least be environmental workers in one way or another and it is worth the billions in damage from increased climate change for countries to finance that. Just have to put in strong controls against fraud. AdLib 26 minutes ago

Funk yes I am move here in 1970 9 months after I got married, wife wanted to be close to her family and I wanted to get the hell out of Syracuse NY. twilson117 26 minutes ago

I’m just thinking instead of millions of desperate slash and burn substance farmers, train them to be conservationists and pay them out of a global kitty funksands 25 minutes ago

Whoa, you’ve been there for a while then. As long as I’ve been alive! Ever gonna leave or are you there for the duration? funksands 25 minutes ago

I’ve considered it, but my mother and dad are still alive and the places I would want to go to would involve plane rides. Instead of a 250 drive home. Although I don’t get back that much. twilson117 23 minutes ago

Funk – Employing the farming communities there to help protect the forests would be great and would be great for unskilled labor in the cities where poverty is horrible. AdLib 23 minutes ago

Besides our daughter is here. twilson117 23 minutes ago

TW – Your family is there, that’s a good place to be. AdLib 22 minutes ago

My folks finally got tired of seasons and moved to the boot of Texas a couple of years ago. Warmer weather and gulf fishing. Ah. Yes a kid in the area would do it. I can’t see my wife ever living away from her kids. funksands 22 minutes ago

Seriously. How great would it be that if you were a kid born into poverty in Sao Paulo you knew that you were going to get the training and knowledge to be a frontline warrior in the climate fight. How powerful funksands 21 minutes ago

My daughter has never seen snow fall, she is excited about seeing the seasons in MA. My wife is from TX, we’ve spent a bit of time there. Just concerned about how dysfunctional and autocratic TX is becoming. AdLib 20 minutes ago

If we were to move would probably try to get close to our late son’s daughter who is living in Oklahoma. twilson117 20 minutes ago

I’ve driven through Oklahoma once. funksands 19 minutes ago

Ad, my folks lost their power for three days and water for 7 in that last snow storm. That state is rotting from neglect funksands 19 minutes ago

Course most states are come to think of it funksands 18 minutes ago

Ad she is likely to see it when she arrives. Have to tell you the weather pattern has been changing here in MA. We hardly had any snow last year. twilson117 18 minutes ago

Funk – Agreed, especially with a real chance to build a life for oneself and escape the favelas they live in. AdLib 18 minutes ago

TW, how old is your granddaughter? funksands 18 minutes ago

Funk – That’s a long time to lose power and a very long time to lose power. As Climate Change worsens and TX Repubs cling to power as extremists, I’m afraid more and more people in TX will die and suffer the consequences. AdLib 17 minutes ago

Yeah, Texas aint going to be pretty in 20 years funksands 16 minutes ago

Funk she’s 14 twilson117 16 minutes ago

That’s a great age, do you get to see her very often? funksands 15 minutes ago

Well she would come out every year, but that was Pre Covid. twilson117 15 minutes ago

TW – Right. I mentioned to you before, we were there in December of 2019 to see the school and it was warm for Winter in Boston. Had to insist on my daughter wearing a coat. She would have worn shorts too if I didn’t tell her not to. A California girl. AdLib 15 minutes ago

Well lets hope that she gets to soon. They get so old so fast! funksands 14 minutes ago

Yes they do. twilson117 14 minutes ago

Ad winters here can be funny. twilson117 13 minutes ago

There are times when it really snows I mean really. twilson117 13 minutes ago

That’s great. Wait till she gets a foot of snow one day, she’ll either lover it or hate it when it doesn’t go away. funksands 13 minutes ago

It is inconsistent right now, COVID-wise. Infections are way down here in CA but rising in 1/3 of states. MI is in really bad shape and FL is probably a nightmare but DeathSantis hides the numbers. AdLib 13 minutes ago

My fear is that not enough people will get the vaccine and we never quite get over the hump. We just get more and more mutations that require boosters funksands 11 minutes ago

Ad I think she’ll adapt to it. She just has to be prepared for it. twilson117 11 minutes ago

TW – It will be a novelty for her, at least for a while. But maybe at some point, heavy snow that stays around may be less of a novelty. But when you’re in college, maybe not so much? AdLib 11 minutes ago

Probably, she’ll be busy. twilson117 10 minutes ago

TW, Ad I’m going to head out. Thanks again for the invite and I hope to stop in again from time to time. Looking forward to reading your climate piece and promise to give some comments funksands 9 minutes ago

Funk – I have an imaginary scenario that has its ups and downs. All reasonable Americans, a majosirty, maybe 3/4, support getting vaccinated. Only about 1/4 oppose it. So if 3/4 of the country is vaccinated…and then a mutant strain becomes far more deadly, the thinning of the herd on the Trumper side could occur. AdLib 9 minutes ago

Funk good talking with you take care and come back there is a lot to discuss here. twilson117 9 minutes ago

Well then that would be a problem that contains its own solution then. funksands 9 minutes ago

You bet. Nice meeting you have a great weekend funksands 8 minutes ago

Fantastic, Funk, thanks! Hope you’ll hang out here again when you can, you can see how much you were missed. AdLib 8 minutes ago

It was really nice. Thanks again funksands 8 minutes ago

Ad that’s one way of thinning the herd. twilson117 8 minutes ago

TW – Have a great weekend! So glad you persisted and made it here tonight, I was hoping you would. AdLib 8 minutes ago

Yep, poor idiots were first howling about “herd mentality”, now it may be “herd thinning”. AdLib 7 minutes ago

That was Trump who said, “herd mentality”. AdLib 7 minutes ago

Thanks looking forward to next week. Working on a few articles will let you know when I get them written. Having a little trouble making things connect. twilson117 6 minutes ago

Very cool! I get it, I have that same issue of connecting everything when working on my articles too. Funny how ideas sprint away in different directions than expected. AdLib 5 minutes ago

I’m schedule for my first shot next Tue, wife has got her first shot last Sat. twilson117 5 minutes ago

Excellent! I do think we all need to get vaccinated before Summer because the MAGAS will be everywhere spreading variants. AdLib 4 minutes ago

Yes you’re right about keeping things connected. hopefully it will come together. twilson117 4 minutes ago

Somehow, it always seems to come together. AdLib 4 minutes ago

Agree with you on the shots. When I get mine I’m going see if I can get the second one with the wife twilson117 3 minutes ago

I’ll be posting my Climate Change damage mitigation proposal this weekend. Then another article I have in mind for next week. AdLib 2 minutes ago

Looking forward to reading that. I’m going to bug out. See you next week. twilson117 2 minutes ago

Thanks! See you then, take care! AdLib a few seconds ago

You tool twilson117 a few seconds ago

Will do! AdLib a few seconds ago

You there, Murph? AdLib 23 minutes ago

Anyone still here…..? MurphTheSurf3 23 minutes ago

I am. AdLib 23 minutes ago

TW left a few minutes ago. AdLib 22 minutes ago

How about that! I had a flood!….broken pipe. MurphTheSurf3 22 minutes ago

NO! In the house? AdLib 22 minutes ago

What a great night here though! MurphTheSurf3 22 minutes ago

Seriously? AdLib 22 minutes ago

It was great, I do see all the folks here as All Stars. AdLib 21 minutes ago

Yep, in the house…….had to turn off water to one section of the building. Old house, old pipes……I will find out what happened tomorrow. MurphTheSurf3 21 minutes ago

Oh no. But no water in the main part of the house? AdLib 21 minutes ago

This kind of group is what the internet/social media could be…instead of the cesspool that it is. MurphTheSurf3 21 minutes ago

I always say this about The Planet but everyone here created such a group. Pretty ideal IMO. AdLib 20 minutes ago

The water was from a sink in one of the first floor bedrooms that flowed into a large gathering room on the lower lever…house is built on the side of a hill. MurphTheSurf3 20 minutes ago

Three levels and large…. MurphTheSurf3 19 minutes ago

Compared to what one sees on Twitter, Facebook, social media, it’s like night and day. AdLib 19 minutes ago

That’s not good. Damn. AdLib 19 minutes ago

So the lower level has an inch or so of water on the floor, which is linoleum on a cement pad. It will dry out…….the bathroom floor is soaked and it has a wood underlay so that can be trouble and the ceiling tiles are all shot on the lower level….AND I still do not know what cause the flood. MurphTheSurf3 18 minutes ago

Fortunately one the household say the water down below and came to get me. The bathroom was at the far end of the building and the water ran along several pipes before dropping which made finding the problem fun. MurphTheSurf3 17 minutes ago

The wood flooring could be an issue depending on whether the water drains. And you’ve turned off the main? AdLib 17 minutes ago

I turned off the lines leading into the bathroom. MurphTheSurf3 16 minutes ago

Good. Anyway to sweep the water out? AdLib 16 minutes ago

The house is 80 years old….with additions taking place across the years…..so water lines do not match up as they should. Along with other lines……(electrical, gas) MurphTheSurf3 15 minutes ago

I have a wet vac which I will use in a few minutes. MurphTheSurf3 14 minutes ago

And you know it was coming from the sink so it shouldn’t be hard to track down. Clearly, it’s from the incoming water pipe, could be above or below the floor. AdLib 14 minutes ago

Good of you to deprogram this with me. Several upset people here who are not helpful in crises, big or small. MurphTheSurf3 13 minutes ago

Right. An old house like that is romantic to many but you have issues like this to deal with. Our house was built in 1950 so it’s 70 years old but we’ve had to replace piping along the way, lead to copper. AdLib 12 minutes ago

Quite so…..the drain was the problem……I turned off the water so no one could fill that sink again. The person whose room it is, turned on the water and left the bathroom…unfortunately forgetting they turned on the water. Double calamity. No draining and a steady flow. MurphTheSurf3 12 minutes ago

Like you, I have to manage my house’s crises so I know how that can be. AdLib 12 minutes ago

OH!!! Well, it’s unfortunate but at least it’s not going to require a lot of investigating and work. I didn’t know you had someone else there so I assumed it was the intake pipe. AdLib 10 minutes ago

You know what I am experiencing…….and the add ons have just made the whole thing more functional but also more prone to problems. I had a roof section fall in several years ago be cause it had been added without proper supports. MurphTheSurf3 10 minutes ago

They must feel awful now. AdLib 10 minutes ago

I have an extended family…much like CL has…… MurphTheSurf3 10 minutes ago

I never leave the water running in the bathroom out of concern of overflowing. Like leaving the stove when you’re cooking. AdLib 9 minutes ago

The flooders are quite penitent but also not much help. MurphTheSurf3 9 minutes ago

Ad….you are practical and bright…… MurphTheSurf3 9 minutes ago

Roofs are expensive to replace. We bought this house soon after the Northridge quake and the roof and chimney had been recently replaced. AdLib 8 minutes ago

As are you, my friend. We try to learn from mistakes and stick by that. AdLib 8 minutes ago

What makes things interesting is that so much of the building is done without the necessary know how, materials or safeguards….all rural do it yourselfing….Well, I think on this cheery note….actually a rather nice note…company is good….thanks…..I have a bit earlier a morning than I thought I would. MurphTheSurf3 7 minutes ago

Yep, I know that situation. Some people are the fixers, some people are the shoulder shruggers. AdLib 6 minutes ago

Shruggers…..I like that word…captures a lot. Take good care I always look forward to Fridays and Voxing MurphTheSurf3 6 minutes ago

Okay pal. Hope you get it wet-vacced up quickly and you get some well earned sleep. Could have been worse. AdLib 6 minutes ago

Same here! AdLib 5 minutes ago

Indeed. Indeed. Night, friend. MurphTheSurf3 5 minutes ago

Night! AdLib 5 minutes ago