Vox Populi – 09-25-2020

Vox Populi, our weekly live chat about the week’s events begins tonight at 7:00pm PDT. Hope to see you then! AdLib 3 hours ago

Hey Khirad! AdLib 2 hours ago

Do not know how long I’m staying, I’m just pissed and tired. Khirad 2 hours ago

Can we address Amy Coney Barrett’s little girl voice though? I just heard her for the first time. Khirad 2 hours ago

Same here and it’s been gooing onn for nearly 4 years. But think I can see the light at the end of the tunnel. Oly 39 days. AdLib 2 hours ago

Only AdLib 2 hours ago

Hi Khirad….what pissing you off and tiring you out? MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

As if I did not know!

MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

Putting aside her religious and political extremism, she’s oly been a judge for 3 years, how is that qualifying for a lifetime appointment on the SCOTUS? AdLib 2 hours ago

Hi folks. pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

Hey Murph! AdLib 2 hours ago

The RBG thing. And humanity. Like, I admire the Republicans. They just don’t give a shit. I admire that in a way. Khirad 2 hours ago

Hi PPO! AdLib 2 hours ago

Khirad – I can’t admire human beiings who act like lower life forms. AdLib 2 hours ago

Well, we see the GOP for what it is with Notorious RBG – Empty, Soulless and downright evil pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

AD, that’s because we have shame. Khirad 2 hours ago

Murph! pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

So are we all agreed? Dems get unitary power, end the filibuster, expand the SCOTUS to 13 members giving a 1 seat majority for us, save the ACA, Choice, Brown v. Board, etc. And screw the whinning of the Repubs. AdLib 2 hours ago

Khirad, the GOP don’t have any. pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

whining AdLib 2 hours ago

Agreed, ad! Bring on the tumbrils! pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

I’m getting a new laptop soon, the keyboard is worn out on this one and omits or duplicates some keys. AdLib 2 hours ago

YES, I do NOT CARE anymore. WHINE, call hypocrisy on us. YOU poisened the well. I’m done playing nice. When they go low, KICK THEM Khirad 2 hours ago

There was “spontaneous” Trump Parade in town last Saturday….trucks and cars with banners and flags that blocked the major intersection for nearly an hour…..people on trucks harangued the folks in town. I and three others went to the policy dept and asked if the parade was permitted or unlawful. The officer there did not answer and that was the answer. So we called county sheriff and they responded ordering the unlawful assembly to move on…..and that was it……no tickets, no summonses, no tough words….just “some lefties don’t like you guys….” MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

Mine went to laptop heaven in a puff of smelly smoke on wed. Trying to find my wifi network password to configure beaut new whizzbanger pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

Biden’s national lead is growing. Polls have him ahead in all swing states and now OH too! In a virtual tie in TX! He could have a massive win. AdLib 2 hours ago

I just got mine back after minor damage. Why can’t I screenshot or do all my accents anymore? Khirad 2 hours ago

Option and command are like ignoring me… Khirad 2 hours ago

And I think Trump’s announced coup has scared some of the few undecided towards Biden. Then after the debates? I think Trump is in a tailspin. AdLib 2 hours ago

Hey glenn! AdLib 2 hours ago

If Biden wins……even a very clear win…..I know there is going to be trouble like that parade…..I am glad I will be in Wi. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

Good evening, everyone. glenn 2 hours ago

hi glenn pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

Hello Glenn…and while I am at it….hi PPO…..and hi Ad….and hi world! MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

Khirad – There used to be 9 district courts. We have 9 SCOTUS seats. Now there are 13 district courts. Just makes sense to have 13 SCOTUS seats. AdLib 2 hours ago

Ad …. when you made the 13/13 connection I tipped my hat to you, sir. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

I would love to be one of the SS guys who has had to put up with him for 4 years and now has the privilege of frogmarching the cretin out of the WH by the Front door. pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

Murph – And at the same time, Parsons and his wife have COVID and hospitals are nearing capacity as COVID spikes in MO. Keep America Dying! AdLib 2 hours ago

PPO….if that happens it will be the federal marshalls. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

It’s not you, it’s me. I’m gonna drop out early. Just wanted to say hi. Also, get into the send me free flags charity if you haven’t seen my pet project! Have a good night. Khirad 2 hours ago

Yes…..Ad….things are getting very touchy here. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

PPO – I’m so jealous!!! AdLib 2 hours ago

Good K….. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

Hope you stay healthy as you can, Murph pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

I’m coming in the middle of the convo, I know, but just a few thoughts from what I’ve read so far. First of all, I’m with with you Khirad, kick the bastards when they go low. I just hate fucking republicans! And the RTLB’s supporters. And Ad, I agree with your scenario regarding what happens when Dems get in power. Also, I’d add the Green New Deal, if not all of it, at least push solar and wind power as energy alternatives. glenn 2 hours ago

Khirad – That’s very frustrating! Are you sure it’s not a software thing? AdLib 2 hours ago

Well PPO….I will be in Wisconsin from early October through November election week working on voter turnout. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

PPO–Yes, I’d like to be one of the SS doing that, too. And that is what every newspaper, media outlet, and cable pundit should be telling the RTLB. Get your fat ass out of the White House or we’ll throw it out for you! glenn an hour ago

Murph – I think either way, the streets will be dangerous. Biden will win, I’m now confident of that and I expect the racist militias and Trump cultists rioting and attacking people far worse than happened during the worst of the George Floyd/BLM protests. AdLib an hour ago

Murph–okay federal marshals. glenn an hour ago

Ad…..I find myself in agreement. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Prepare yourselves folks, I thiink we’re in for some very scary times. AdLib an hour ago

‘Nite, Khirad glenn an hour ago

Ad–I’m still not fully confident that Biden will win. We cannot be confident; we have to be vigilant and GOTV! glenn an hour ago

Glenn…I worry as well. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Ad, if the RWNJ white supremacist nazis no longer have der fuhrer to give them dutch courage, won’t they all slither back into their ooze? they’re cowards, mostly. pinkpantheroz an hour ago

Murph – I heard aboout the 13-13 elsewhere and it clicked, makes the argument very sensible and understandable. Then expand lower courts tooo and more cases can be handled, reduce huge delays in the court. And create an express program, allowing Congress and goverment to get quick rulings. AdLib an hour ago

Ad–It is so scary that the RTLB’s cultists will wreak havoc on the country. glenn an hour ago

PPO – Poor SS guys being forced to get COVID and look after that old, fat Baby Hitler. AdLib an hour ago

Ad, and re-federalise the prison system and stop the for-profit ones. Decriminalize weed. pinkpantheroz an hour ago

Murph–you and I are the worriers….mainly because we live in red states. glenn an hour ago

PPO….there is a 2.5 month space between the election and inauguration he can, and he will make a lot of trouble. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

But I think it would be the US Marshalls who would have the authority to drag Trump out. AdLib an hour ago

Glenn…very good point. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

PPO–The RTLB’s cultists still have between November and January to wreak havoc. glenn an hour ago

Glenn…being in red territory gives us good cause to fret…. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Murph, will he still have the drawing power for the media? they don’t like losers, just like him. they will be concentrating on attacking Jow from the onset. pinkpantheroz an hour ago

Joe pinkpantheroz an hour ago

PPO….Trump makes awful (which means good) tv…..the cameras will follow him and he will wreck havoc. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

glenn – Absolutely, pass the Green New Deal, Police Reform, Voting Rights, Immigration Reform, income inequality, end the Trump tax cuts, just plow throough all the neglected issues and Biden will look like FDR. AdLib an hour ago

sadly, Murph, you may be right. and they will take delight in it as well. Ratings, Ratings. pinkpantheroz an hour ago

Ad, even sign off all the outstanding bills will take a while pinkpantheroz an hour ago

AND, IF (WHEN) we get unified Democratic Government the democrats need to tar and feather every member of the Trump admin who abused power and the members of Congress who cooperated with them. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Trump signed an “executive order” re. pre-existing conditions and another sending aid to Puerto Rico……yes, he believes people are that dumb….because a lot of them are. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Murph–Is the time between election and inauguration embedded in the Constitution, requiring a Constitutional amendment to change it? Or can Congress change the time between the two? I believe that will be the time when the RTLB and his cultists will be the most dangerous. I know that we can’t change it for this election; but I truly think it ought to be changed on general principal. I’m pretty sure that the reason for the delay between election and inauguration was because of the time it took to travel when the protocol was established. It is totally unnecessary now. IMO, the most time between election and inauguration should not be any longer than a month; six weeks tops. glenn an hour ago

glenn – You know how I feel about this, confidence is a strength, not a weakness. Trump will not make up the 10% he is down in 39 days, the people voting Biden can’t be convinced by anything to vote for Trump. And Biden will pick up the majority of undecideds as is always the case when not the incumbent. Biden is projected today by FiveThirtyEight today to get around 390 delegates. Yet, we all need to vote early and as my new article says, vote in a way that your ballot is counted by Election Night. AdLib an hour ago

Murph–I’ll supply the feathers! Barr should be at the head of the line! glenn an hour ago

Glenn…I believe that timeline is in statute……not constitutional but that would require Senate agreement and that will not happen. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

PPO – Yep, can’t wait for Biden to get in and the Feds turn on the militia morons, we’ll see what cowards they really are when the Feds turn on them. AdLib an hour ago

glenn, naw, MoscowMitch to the fore pinkpantheroz an hour ago

Ad–I don’t see your confidence as a weakness; I’m just not counting my chickens before they hatch. I know this isn’t 2016, but I still can’t help but worry. glenn an hour ago

glenn – It will be scary and violent after the election but we just need to stay safe and know that it will be put down by states even if they need to send in the National Guard. AdLib an hour ago

PPO – Yep, eliminate private prisons and immigrant holding facilities, end family seperation, create a Trump Crime Commission to investigate and prosecute all the crimes that have been going on. AdLib an hour ago

I only use Twitter, not FB or the other propaganda sites and I block any troll or bot I see. I’m not subscribing to any conspiracy theories. Hope many others are doing the same. FB is so on the nose these days. pinkpantheroz an hour ago

Murph–I know that we will not get it changed for this election, but if all the polls are correct, we can end up with a unified government. That is when the statute should be changed. That includes Congressional inaugurations too. glenn an hour ago

PPO–You know, I couldn’t decide which one should go first–Barr or the turtle, so they need to go together, with Lindsey right behind them! glenn an hour ago

glenn – It’s in the Constitution, when the Inauguration of a new president is held so that can’t be changed. We just need to stay safe. It will be like The Living Dead in the streets of some cities. AdLib an hour ago

Glenn….there is a strong argument for an extended transition…indeed many have argued that it is not nearly enough time….but this case shows the clear and present danger. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Just imagine if every one of the 1% g gave just 1%, all the new programs would be funded pinkpantheroz an hour ago

glenn, a nice trifecta bundle. Save on the tar & feathers pinkpantheroz an hour ago

Hi – late again as usual. Good to see you all! choicelady an hour ago

Hi CL MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Hey Murph! choicelady an hour ago

Hi cl! pinkpantheroz an hour ago

Hi PPO! choicelady an hour ago

Hi glenn and Ad – good to see you. choicelady an hour ago

Ad–Wouldn’t it be the National Guard that has to put the militias down? Or, can governors ask for federal involvement? And…if the feds are involved; they better be dressed in riot gear just like they were for the BLM protests! glenn an hour ago

glenn – yes, it would be up to Governors. And ONLY governors. choicelady an hour ago

glenn – they don’t have to have it nationalized. Congress won’t, and the head of the Guard won’t federalize without Congress. choicelady an hour ago

glenn – I depend on trends and the trends have shown Biden ahead, and with a growiing lead in more states, since Biden became the leader in the Primary. Trump has never led ad is getting crushed by one book after another ad the worse and worse things he says and does. 90% of voters have their minds made up, 50% for Biden, 40% for Trump and as I said, the majority of undecided always got to the challenger. Biden will win but we have to show up, vote early and bring it home. AdLib an hour ago

Ad–Oh that’s too bad that it’s in the Constitution. Yeah, I wasn’t planning on going anywhere until we had a sane president, but the RTLB’s cultists give me another reason to stay home. glenn an hour ago

Hey CL–good to hear from you. glenn an hour ago

glenn – great to see you! choicelady an hour ago

PPO – Facebook is a White Nationalist organ that can screw itself. AdLib an hour ago

PPO – one major change of topic – saw photos of SNOW in, I think, Melbourne? choicelady an hour ago

Ad – I got kicked off Facebook. Never been more proud! choicelady an hour ago

Hey CL! AdLib an hour ago

Hey back atcha, Ad! choicelady an hour ago

It’s effin freezing here. Not surprised. Haven’t looked ot the window yet today pinkpantheroz an hour ago

PPO – well, get your longjohns on. Strange start to Spring down there! choicelady an hour ago

Ad–I am trying so hard to have confidence in your projections; but I’m an old lady, and I need to see it. The biggest problem is, the way I see it, is we won’t know election results on election night, unless there’s a tsunami. glenn an hour ago

PPO–Stay warm! glenn an hour ago

glenn – even if we don’t have a Tsunami, if we can win Ohio and other swing states, Trump has nothing to say. Ohio as a fully RED state is crucial. Most everyone I know there is already prepared to vote early. choicelady an hour ago

4 seasons in one day is Melbourne’s claim to fame. Port Philip bay is 50 miles north to South, and you can actually see the southerlies racing up to drop temps 20F in 5 minutes. pinkpantheroz an hour ago

I belong to three FB groups….all private…..two are progressive and discussion is excellent…the third is trumpland and a horror. But I get a feel for the pulse of that movement. I do not have a real FB page, only a placeholder so I can be in groups. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

glenn – Yes, President Biden could use National Guard but also the ex-secret police Trump and Barr have been using. But National Guard would be best and if thiis becomes a real insurrection, he could declare the Insurrection Act and bring in the military. But best if he didn’t, I think these racsts are cowards and would run like cockroaches when the NG came out against them. AdLib an hour ago

PPO – it’s like the Flanders and Swann song, “Missed summer this year. I was in the bathroom.” choicelady an hour ago

Precisely, cl ‘Don’t like today’s weather?Wait 5 minutes pinkpantheroz an hour ago

Ad – what happens after the inauguration is Biden’s and Congress’s call. BEFORE that, Gen. Milley, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs will NOT abide by Trump’s illegal orders. choicelady an hour ago

PPO and CL interesting climatological discussion. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

CL–I’m not saying I don’t think it can happen…I want to believe it so badly. I’m just a cynic, and after 2016, I can’t be confident in polls any more. I’m just ready for this election to be over…. glenn an hour ago

May you have a placid summer this year, PPO. Last year was hell on earth for you all. choicelady an hour ago

CL – Good for you! When you see what FB has really been doing to promote and build the white nationalist/Nazi movement, because it’s more profitable, I can’t in good conscience ever use that disgusting site. If Warren is Sec of Treasury, I would like her to head up an anti-monopoly suit against them, break them up and regulate the hell out of them. AdLib an hour ago

Don’t forget Pence! He needs to be gone pronto before he can feck about with pardons pinkpantheroz an hour ago

glenn – I don’t count the polls either, but I think Biden will win BIG time. It’s more what we have as resources to quell Trump. choicelady an hour ago

PPO – Pence needs to be taken out, yes. He should also be impeached. choicelady an hour ago

cl, thanks, we’re praying it will be gentler this time. pinkpantheroz an hour ago

Ad–No doubt in my mind that the racist cultists are cowards. I want to see them running like cockroaches when confronted with the NG. glenn an hour ago

PPOI – damn I hope so. choicelady an hour ago

glenn – the governors have the call of their Guard. And under those directions, it will be far more unbiased. choicelady an hour ago

glenn – No worries, we can agree to disagree on this. But my confidence doesn’t come out of wishful thinking, it comes from the polling and trends. Trump is down and declining, only 39 days left and debates cooming up where moderators will go after Trump and Biden will too. Biden will win if we do oour part. AdLib an hour ago

glenn, I’d like, just once for those ‘militias’ to be confronted by gun-toting black brothers pinkpantheroz an hour ago

PPO – Well, a large group of former military, Black men and women, marched at Stone Mountain, and the white boys scrambled. choicelady an hour ago

Murph – For me, any presence on FB is like renting a home in a racist community. AdLib an hour ago

Ad, can we be sure that the moderators will curb trumps constant interruptions and ‘excuse me’s” pinkpantheroz an hour ago

Did any of you read the letter, published Thursday morning by National Security Leaders for Biden? Frightening. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Ad, I didn’t see that. Grand! pinkpantheroz an hour ago

PPO–Oh, wouldn’t that be loverly? The racist cowards confronted by black men with guns! They’d shit their pants and run away. Hmmm….maybe that’s why they all wear camo. To cover up their shit! glenn an hour ago

Murph – yes I did read that. Agreed. choicelady an hour ago

glenn – never thought about it, but I bet you’re correct. Cammo cover for terrified bowls! choicelady an hour ago

PPO,,,,that happened in St Louis….quite a scene….there were three lawyers with the black toters who challenged police efforts to get them to disarm. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Big trucks for little dicks pinkpantheroz an hour ago

CL – Agreed, once Biden wins, no matter what Trump does, support will fall away from him. People will begin to refuse his orders because they won’t want to commit further crimes a Biden AG will prosecute them for. AdLib an hour ago

MURPH! That’s fantastic! What happened? Did the cops back down? choicelady an hour ago

Murph–I read parts of it. As far as frightening; this administration has been frightening for 3 and a half years! glenn an hour ago

CL–LOL! glenn an hour ago

Murph, I’ll look that incident up. Great! pinkpantheroz an hour ago

Ad – the military is already on our side, showed that in DC in June. Now for other branches… I agree with you totally. I think all intel, security, everyone will say, “F U, Mr. Pretend President!” choicelady an hour ago

Ad….I get your point……and FB needs to be keel hauled but it is a gathering place that I cannot ignore. There are two groups there whose members are like the folks here. And there is one group that I want to know so I can work more effectively against them. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

PPO – I think the moderators can see what’s going on right noow, Trump trying to commit a coup over our democracy and I don’t think they’ll want to be seen as on the side of helping tyranny. Plus, the ratings will be bigger when going after Trump. Going after Biden won’t bring about big ratings. AdLib an hour ago

Murph – having gotten kicked off FB, I miss it for family issues and contact with friends I otherwise don’t talk to. choicelady an hour ago

Ad sure hope you’re right pinkpantheroz an hour ago

Just look at the huge lines of early voters…nearly all wearing masks! They’re not Trump voters with masks on. Biden voters are on a mission to vote and vote ASAP! We will win this big time as long as we vote early. AdLib an hour ago

Will any debates actually occur? Maybe WhatsHisName will bottle out with laryngitis! pinkpantheroz an hour ago

So, not to get people upset…about two months ago I was asking Twitter if they heard anything about “night trains” hauling military equipment. I found stories from Los Angeles about the same but in daylight. No one drew ANY conclusions about where that equipment was going, but the next moring two military helicopters flew over our house – and hovered. Did not make me happy. choicelady an hour ago

CL and PPO…this was during the post Ferguson period and there were many demonstrations. Groups of “Oath Keepers” and “Militia”began to stalk demonstrator groups. The police stood by so someone organized a group of black defenders of their second amendment rights…..the militia got scared and asked the police to act….they tried but the attorneys blocked it…..a wary truce ensued. Fortunately that was near the end of the street theater period. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Ad, saw the rally the other day with the camera strategically place to show supporters with MAGA masks on. Didn’t show 10 yeards gap between him and the plebs pinkpantheroz an hour ago

Murph – that is a righteous story, thanks! choicelady an hour ago

CL – Yep, don’t think folks in the military like being called “losers” and “suckers”. Or their commanders being insulted terribly. I’ll bet they would relish the opportunity to drag him out of the WH. AdLib an hour ago

CL….I cannot imagine how someone as reserved as yourself would be escorted out of FBworld. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Ad – Gen. Milley acted BEFORE those stories came to light. Stood smack on the Constitution. Sent active duty troops BACK to Fort Bragg. Disarmed the Guard. Then came that story, and Trump’s military support plummeted. He’s not about 1/3 of the vote, 2/3 for Biden. choicelady an hour ago

Ad, I bet there are pools full of dough for the guys who get the privilege of kicking It out of Your House! pinkpantheroz an hour ago

Murph – apparently pissed someone off at FB. choicelady an hour ago

Murph – Not a condemnation against anyone still using FB, just a principle for me. It is a racism machine, I can’t in good conscience seperate that from the participating and supporting their site. AdLib an hour ago

Ad – I’m sorry to lose contact with old friends, but I’m not sorry it’s gone from my life. choicelady an hour ago

Ad – I agree – it has nasty roots, nasty pages, nasty people. choicelady an hour ago

cl, if they are real friends, lack of FB shouldn’t be a barrier pinkpantheroz an hour ago

CL….I would much rather have a site like this one to operate in but FB is where the crowd is….so I put up with their obvious preference for venal conversation as that boosts clicks. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

PPO – some of them don’t have my email or I theirs. That was something I never worried about – until I had to. choicelady an hour ago

CL – I wouldn’t be surprised iif Trump was preparing back then to declare the Insurrection Act annd invade the US with our military. But now? I don’t think the commanders would obey such orders. AdLib an hour ago

Ad – to use that act requires Congress, and Nancy ain’t having it. choicelady an hour ago

JSOCS and Congress can query any order and keep it in limbo for ever! pinkpantheroz an hour ago

PPO – Yes, Trump stages his death rallies so the people behind him wear masks while the thousands watching him are maskless. Everything Trump does is a fraud and a con. AdLib an hour ago

All – think of how many things have FAILED under Trump. No mass deportations. Sent his goons to Portland but to none of the other cities he threatened. SCOTUS handed him an election day defeat: NO rogue electors can be used. Have to follow laws of their states. Has to have his taxes/finances revealed. Military overrode his attempts to use active troops in DC. On and on. He fails DAILY. choicelady an hour ago

CL – It is comforting to see Milley going public to declare they won’t be involved in the election. He has drawn the line and Trump can’t exploit them again after what happened in DC. AdLib an hour ago

great, cl. Now we need NY to go gettim on corruption pinkpantheroz an hour ago

We fear him for his bullying. But what he DOES is much less than he threatens. He doesn’t KNOW the laws, the processes of government, the people who have power. He thinks he can be Putin. He can’t. choicelady an hour ago

Imagine if Trump was not the heavy handed doofus that he is? If a clever, slick, sly, person with his character and aims were holding the office the damage that could be done is beyond imagination….again, our constitution is not prepared to deal with a situation like this. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

PPO – I LOVE that the NY AG ordered Eric to appear Oct. 7. LOVE IT. choicelady an hour ago

PPO – I don’t think anyone in the military would feel they needed money oon tp oof dragging Trump oout oof the WH, that wuld be the ultimate reward. AdLib an hour ago

Like killing Bin Laden. AdLib an hour ago

Murph – that will be our worry until the cows come home. A smart, savvy fascist is always a threat. choicelady an hour ago

Folks, I’m packing it in for tonight. I love the discussions going on tonight, but find I just can’t concentrate, so I’m going to pack it in for the night. I’m still grieving for my nephew and my back is giving me fits tonight, so I’m outta here. I’m bummed I can’t concentrate on this conversation tonight because it’s a good one, but I’ve just can’t seem to keep up. Take care everyone, and I’ll see you all next week, hopefully. Oh, before I forget, are we having a live conversation during the debate Tuesday night, Ad? glenn an hour ago

cl, I think even some of his biggest fans are slowly realizing that he is useless and incompetent. pinkpantheroz an hour ago

glenn – I am so very sorry about your nephew. By all means take care of YOU. LOVE seeing you. Hope to connect next week. choicelady an hour ago

Sweet weekend, and sweet dreams! choicelady an hour ago

Glenn…the very best to you and yours. MurphTheSurf3 44 minutes ago

CL – That’s the downside, losing touch with people on FB but being part of an evil system like FB and helping it flourish is hard to swallow too. AdLib 44 minutes ago

PPO – the anecdotal stories of people taking down their signs would say his bloom is off his rose. choicelady 44 minutes ago

Night glenn! Take care! AdLib 44 minutes ago

God Bless, glenn. Please stay healthy pinkpantheroz 44 minutes ago

CL – Really? The Pres can’t just declare the Insurrection Act on his own? AdLib 43 minutes ago

I hope it will be like post WWII and the Germans ”I was a good German! I didn’t vote for Hitler’! pinkpantheroz 42 minutes ago

CL – True, Trump often fails but trying 100 disgusting things, failing at most f them but winning at some is still pretty awful. Though it is important to keep in mind that Trump fails more often than succeeds. AdLib 41 minutes ago

Section (§252) of the Insurrection Act says: “Whenever the President considers that unlawful obstructions, combinations, or assemblages, or rebellion against the authority of the United States, make it impracticable to enforce the laws of the United States in any State by the ordinary course of judicial proceedings, he may call into Federal service such of the militia of any State, and use such of the armed forces, as he considers necessary to enforce those laws or to suppress the rebellion. MurphTheSurf3 40 minutes ago

OK, folks, I’ve got to continue trying to set up my new computer, so I’ll say cheerio for now. Take care, all of you pinkpantheroz 40 minutes ago

I do not see where the Congress has a role. MurphTheSurf3 40 minutes ago

All – so here’s my hypothesis: With Trump now seeing the handwriting on the wall, I think he’s preparing to flee with or without a pardon. I’m thinking Brunei – no extradition – where he knows the Sultan and can live in luxury. I think much of the missing $$ from PPE and our treasury, and his campaign celebration funds have gone offshore. The only remaining question? WHO gets on the plane with him? I think Jared, Ivanka, their kids – and that’s it. choicelady 40 minutes ago

Murph and CL – This is why when Dems winn control of both houses, they need to pass a number of laws preventing so much of the madness Trump has engaged in. And create enforcement processes that don’t need the DoJ to move forward. As has been said before after a horrible dictator committed atrocities, never again. AdLib 39 minutes ago

CL…..you know there would have been a time when I would have dismissed the Brunei scenario as a fantasy…not so now. MurphTheSurf3 39 minutes ago

I agree under normal circumstances Milley et al. would follow trump, but he has put a kibosh on politically motivated actions, so I think Milley would refuse. choicelady 38 minutes ago

Executive Authority in its own branch of government is a bad idea……when it is separated from the legislative it has very little accountability. MurphTheSurf3 38 minutes ago

CL – Maybe so, Trump is a coward but he’s also a moron driven by his selfishness to the point of being self-destructive. So maybe he can’t make himself abandon his cult called the GOP and stays. AdLib 37 minutes ago

After Watergate and before AUMF, Nixon tried to start a war, a war he had the authority to wage. The Generals told him NO. Milley would do the same. choicelady 37 minutes ago

Well….time for me to hit the road…….I am about a week out from my Hegira to Milwaukee. MurphTheSurf3 37 minutes ago

Murph – That’s what I thought, the president can declare the Insurrection Act on his own. As Trump tried to and threatened to. AdLib 37 minutes ago

Ad – he lived without his cult before. If it’s his cult v prison, he will flee. choicelady 36 minutes ago

Murph – Cool! Keep up the good work but get some rest! AdLib 36 minutes ago

Goodnight CL and Ad. MurphTheSurf3 36 minutes ago

Milley won’t have it when he sees it’s political. He will let Governors mobilize the Guard if needed. NOT Trump. choicelady 36 minutes ago

Good night, Murph – be well. choicelady 36 minutes ago

CL – But power is addictive. Look how he’s addicted to his Death Rallies. They would surround Mar-a-Lago to protect him and revent him from leaving them. It’s sick. AdLib 35 minutes ago

Well, sorry I was late. The creek partly rose! But it was a good talk. Glad to be here for some of it. choicelady 35 minutes ago

I do get his power madness, but if it’s that or prison, I think he will abandon his Krew and head for friendlier climes. choicelady 34 minutes ago

I agree on Milley and the miliitary. They are seething after all Trump has done to diss them all. They will not be his pawns in a coup, they will instead defend the people. AdLib 34 minutes ago

No worries, always wonderful to have you here. AdLib 34 minutes ago

I don’t think his loyal allies will stick it out forever. choicelady 34 minutes ago

You may be right. But Trump would hate living in exile. Has any president done that? AdLib 33 minutes ago

I can’t believe it’s only 39 days until the election! AdLib 33 minutes ago

No – no president has. Other dictators have, not presidents. choicelady 32 minutes ago

Ad – I KNOW. Want to hear your personal college prep stories, so we’ll do that via email. choicelady 32 minutes ago

Noo way that Trump doesn’t go down in history as the most evil and deranged president in US history. AdLib 32 minutes ago

I always said the HAPPIEST person about Trump’s presidency is Bush. He’s doing his Happy Dance daily – no longer “worst ever”. choicelady 31 minutes ago

OMG – so that DID come to pass for her! Woo hoo! Now – teach her about SNOW. choicelady 30 minutes ago

Yep, as much as I disliked Bush, he is the biggest beneficiary in history after being followed by a madman. AdLib 30 minutes ago

Thanks! She says she wants to experience being in the snow. AdLib 29 minutes ago

He actually had some things go well after he left office, one of which is friendship with the Obamas and his support for the Museum of African American history. He “done good” on that. choicelady 29 minutes ago

Not to mention, going to an Ivy League type school, just a stone’s throw from Harvard. AdLib 29 minutes ago

She may do fine, but honestly the best advice I, a former Midwesterner and NE resident can say is DRY BOOTS AND WARM COATS. choicelady 28 minutes ago

CL – I’m not the type to hold grudges. Bush did horrible things, he hurt and caused the deaths of miillions of people. He cleared the way for Trump and his abuses. Bush will always be a bad guy in my view but all of my anger is reserved for Trump noow. AdLib 27 minutes ago

I love MA. Truly love it. And I never found it hard to make friends. People aren’t cold and rejecting. They are wonderfully nice. It’s more intimate than our kinds of superficial contacts. If someone invites her somewhere, she needs to show up, not find something else to do. That IS a difference. choicelady 27 minutes ago

She’s so stubborn, brought a long, stylish winter coat fr her to wear when we went there and she refused to wear it. AdLib 26 minutes ago

Oh – Bush IS a bad guy. But he had at least a few redeeming aspects to his personality. Trump has NONE. choicelady 26 minutes ago

After spending a whole Winter there, she’ll get it. AdLib 26 minutes ago

A parka is most practical. choicelady 26 minutes ago

She can have both. But warm boots that stay dry are ESSENTIAL. choicelady 25 minutes ago

The first time a gentle snow falls, she will be in love. Later when it snows sideways? Maybe not so much. choicelady 25 minutes ago

It had a parka collar, black and stylish, warm with thermal material. But it was’t that cold when we were there so she stayed with a sweatshirt. AdLib 25 minutes ago

I know, she doesn’t get it right now. I imagine she’ll really enjoy coming home but you never know, she might really enjoy it. AdLib 24 minutes ago

I think she WILL get it as it gets cold. Took Greg to NE, Boston first, and he thought he’d take his bomber jacket, wear loafers. I insisted on a parka, gloves, scarf, and BOOTS. We went to Quincy Market, wind chill 6. He realized I was correct. choicelady 23 minutes ago

It’s a beautiful area. Very tree laden, gorgeous architecture, and lots to do. choicelady 23 minutes ago

CL – Okay, he did do a few things that were good. Like the AIDS push in Africa. But overall, he caused more suffering and death in the world because of the Iraq War in particular, then he helped. AdLib 23 minutes ago

Heh! We West Coasters think we know it all but then we get into really cold weather and smarten up quickly. AdLib 22 minutes ago

Bush is a horrid person who did set the stage for Trump in defying norms such as, oh, say, TORTURE. But he will never rank as high in my hate. choicelady 22 minutes ago

Yes, it is beautiful there, Waltham, near Cambridge. We visited Walden’s Pond while we were there, beautiful. AdLib 21 minutes ago

I agree with Murph – our work for the rest of our lives is watching out for someone intelligent and smooth who is equally as fascist. Read Nancy MacLean’s “Democracy in Chains” to see the game plan from the RW. choicelady 21 minutes ago

All the time I lived in MA and RI I never saw Walden’s Pond. Damn. choicelady 20 minutes ago

CL – Right with you on Bush and Trump, no one I can imagine could ever be as horrible as Trump…but that’s what I thought with Bush. If someone rose in the GOP who had all of Trump’s evil but was brilliant, we wuld be in so much worse trouble…if that’s possible to imagine. AdLib 20 minutes ago

Agreed. choicelady 20 minutes ago

It bothers me no end that a slim majority think Trump is better on the economy. WHAT??? choicelady 19 minutes ago

This is why I think it’s critical for Dems to put guardrails in place on the presidency, empoower Congress to stop him, add DC and Puerto Rico as states and fix the Senate annd House to be more fair. Pass voter rights laws, stop gerrymandering, and the new census redistricting under a Biden Admin could als fix the nation in having politicians more representative of the American people. AdLib 17 minutes ago

Agree on ALL points!!! choicelady 16 minutes ago

I think – hope soon – we will have a huge stock market crash. I want it NOW before Biden gets in. choicelady 16 minutes ago

I think most Americans are pretty ignorant about facts and figures so they wrongly credit Trump on the economy but the things they feel personally make them prefer Biden. AdLib 15 minutes ago

Biden gives us decency. That matters a LOT. choicelady 15 minutes ago

The market has been sinking over the past couple of weeks. I think Wall Street iis seeig the writing on the wall, Trump is going down and COVID is going up. AdLib 14 minutes ago

Did you read that Pete B. (can’t spell his name) is portraying Pence in practice debates with Harris? An openly gay man portraying a homophobe he knows. Perfect! choicelady 14 minutes ago

Ad – I hope the market crashes soon. As much as it will hurt I want it laid at Trump’s doorstep. choicelady 14 minutes ago

It’s slightly up today. choicelady 13 minutes ago

Yes, saw that. But I have my questions about Pence anyway, if he may be in the closet. Either way, he’s going to get his very white butt kicked by Kamala. AdLib 13 minutes ago

Absolutely! choicelady 13 minutes ago

Yes but for the week, it’s down and for the month it’s down. Notice how Trump doesn’t talk about the stock market anymore at his Death Rallies? AdLib 12 minutes ago

If Pence IS in the closet, to hell with him on many other counts. choicelady 12 minutes ago

We’ve seen it many times before, no one is more hateful towards gay people than a Repub in the closet. AdLib 12 minutes ago

Ad – I hadn’t noticed his 180 on bragging about the market. This is very useful. choicelady 12 minutes ago

Yup. Saw that self hate in person too often. choicelady 11 minutes ago

Yep. And I agree with you, the stock market is being propped up with trillions from our tax money and the Fed. It is highly inflated. A crash is unavoidable, this can’t continue forever. AdLib 11 minutes ago

On Twitter a woman known as Cajsa compiled a list of predators, perverts, and hypocrites in the RW. She was over 300 and counting last I saw. choicelady 10 minutes ago

Exactly! Self-hate projected, maybe partly oout of fear as well that smeone might catch on so they show how much they hate gays…so they couldn’t possibly be one. AdLib 10 minutes ago

As soon as Mnuchin is out, the market tumbles. choicelady 10 minutes ago

Well everyone with a keen eye for a queer guy thinks Pence is gay. It would be sad if he weren’t so vile. choicelady 9 minutes ago

Everytime a story comes out about a sexual pervert who’s a politician, 9 times out of 10 (or more), it’s a Repub. AdLib 9 minutes ago

Pence and Lady G. AdLib 9 minutes ago

So far it’s been 100%. choicelady 9 minutes ago

No doubt Lady G is. choicelady 9 minutes ago

Just donated to Jamie Harrison this week. If he beat Lady G…it wuld be soo amazing! AdLib 8 minutes ago

I am, too. Now I’m not a lobbyist, I can donate. Doesn’t help my pocketbook! It is gratifying! choicelady 8 minutes ago

I think Graham has a good chance to lose, have yoou seen him freaking out on Fox News? Maybe his internal polling shows him losing? AdLib 7 minutes ago

Not sure why McGrath isn’t doing better in KY. Even folks in KY don’t like McC. choicelady 7 minutes ago

Yes! I saw Twitter feeds on his panic! choicelady 7 minutes ago

I know, things are tight for us too but this week I donated to 8 Senator candidates. We even have a shot in Alaska! AdLib 7 minutes ago

I saw Alaska was in play! choicelady 6 minutes ago

In IA and GA too! AdLib 6 minutes ago

I think it may be a rout. choicelady 6 minutes ago

Dems could rack up a bigger majority thann Repubs have now. Then add DC and PR for 4 more Senators. AdLib 6 minutes ago

I’m all for that. Greg’s “new” brother and our SIL live in DC and WANT to VOTE. choicelady 5 minutes ago

I am all for expanding the Supremes, too. WITH Congress so no FDR problems. choicelady 5 minutes ago

Yes, I thinnk in 39 days we may find that we can believe in gravity again. Trump really is awful, Americans really want to stop him and fix all his destruction and that oof McConnell and the GOP. After redistricting and voting rights in place, Repubs may not have a majority in DC foor quite a while…until they reform their madness. AdLib 4 minutes ago

Well, I think I’m going to toddle on. Wish you a good weekend. We have fire weather up here, and I hope you don’t. choicelady 3 minutes ago

CL – Why shouldn’t Americans in DC have those rights and representation? No good argument against it. AdLib 3 minutes ago

We should talk soon about the “Never Trump” GOP and whether we should be welcoming of them. Long discussion I think. choicelady 2 minutes ago

Stay safe then. It’s cooled down this week so hoping it stays that way. AdLib 2 minutes ago

DC should have statehood for sure. STAY cool – we’re 100 again, power conservation, and worries. UGH. Be well, AdLib – see you next week. choicelady 2 minutes ago

Yes! And I wanted to talk too you about the water pipeline project too. AdLib 2 minutes ago