Vox Populi, our weekly live chat about the week’s events begins tonight at 7:00pm PDT. Hope to see you then! AdLib 3 hours ago
Hi glenn! AdLib an hour ago
Hey, Ad, how are you? glenn an hour ago
Pretty good….considering we’re on the brink of war. How are you doing? AdLib an hour ago
About the same. It’s so insane that the TLB in the oval office could have a brain fart and just like that, we’re at war! glenn an hour ago
Hey PPO! glenn an hour ago
We all still here????? Good, then The Wimpy Kid backed off pinkpantheroz an hour ago
Hey PPO! AdLib an hour ago
glenn, Ad! pinkpantheroz an hour ago
PPO–Oh, please don’t call him that. It will just goad him into doing something that makes him look “strong”. It’s bad enough that foxsocallednews is calling him “weak”. glenn an hour ago
Ain’t m uch fun when your bluff is called. As if 150 Iranian lives mean anything to him pinkpantheroz an hour ago
Think how close he could be to launching a nuke in a tense situation with his impulsive idiocy! AdLib an hour ago
Even Fox, g? Wow. If his face weren’t so orange, it would be red! pinkpantheroz an hour ago
How did JCoS allow him to put a strike in the air without Congress approval? pinkpantheroz an hour ago
Nope, it wasn’t 150 Iranian lives, he could care less about anyone else’s lives, especially when they’re not white and Christian. Someone convinced him it would hurt his re-election, he only makes decisions out of self-interest. AdLib an hour ago
More like it, Ad. pinkpantheroz an hour ago
You know, I really don’t care what motivated him to “pull back”. However, I just don’t trust him to hold off for much longer, especially if he thinks his base is seeing him as weak. Besides the news itself about him not pulling the trigger, ain’t it “wonderful” that we got the news on twitter? Is this man or his so-called press secretary (for now, at least), ever going to hold a press conference? glenn an hour ago
Exactly, Ad. glenn an hour ago
PPO – This is the type of thing and worse that can happen with spineless Dems letting Trump do whatever he wants and fearful of using their Constitutional power. AdLib an hour ago
Hey Murph! glenn an hour ago
probably not, glenn. They can’t answer any question except with a lie. pinkpantheroz an hour ago
Hey Murph! AdLib an hour ago
Murph! pinkpantheroz an hour ago
Ad–I agree entirely. Dems are looking worse and worse. That being said, I would still vote for ANY Dem rather than a repub. glenn an hour ago
Hello there gang…I just read through the convo so far…… MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago
Nancy, pull your Spanx up and get going! pinkpantheroz an hour ago
So, what’s your considered opinion, Murph? Will he or won’t he? glenn an hour ago
glenn – I highly doubt that Iran will deal with Trump in the current environment, they have no leverage…yet. So Trump can’t last doing nothing, eventually his base will push him and he’ll start a horrible war. And what will Dems do but complain he doesn’t have authority as the war rages. Really upset with feckless Dems. AdLib an hour ago
When I get the time….and that is precious right now….I have a half written piece about how ineffective the impeachment process is because of its inherent design…..from the very beginning the whole thing limped. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago
glenn – Not a question, voting for Dems is the only hope to escape assured destruction of the country but watching them bark like poodles at Trump instead of coming down hard on him is infuriating. AdLib an hour ago
Bring on the Dem Pit bulls……. oh, are there none? pinkpantheroz an hour ago
Murph – As questiionable as the impeachment process may be, it’s the only hammer Dems have and they refuse to use it as Trump drags the country into madness, autocracy and a terrible war. AdLib an hour ago
PPO–Yup! Get with it, Dems. Although, I still will never understand why the press is not camped outside of every damn republican senator’s office asking him/her what he/she is doing about the TLB’s obstruction of justice, what they’re doing about the TLB’s dismantling of the Constitution, what they’re doing about his abuses of power. Instead of the press asking Dems what they’re going to do, they should be asking repubs what they’re going to do. Stop asking Pelosi, and start asking McConnell. glenn an hour ago
Spot on, glenn. pinkpantheroz an hour ago
Ad–I’m with you on the feckless Dems. However, the press also needs to be all over every republican’s ass, too. glenn an hour ago
Trump’s version of the story, which I do not for a second presume to be the actual events in play, creates the kind of presidential image that the GOP used to pin on Obama (feckless, inconsistent, overly reticent, fearful) which is the last thing that we want the Iranians to think of U.S. leadership given that they are fully capable of conducting asymmetrical warfare on multiple fronts using their sponsored agents to raise hell…..he endangers us more and more every day. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago
The MSM in general (some are doing a good job) are slaves to the “both sides” BS that’s supposed to show even handedness. But it’s not even, going after AOC for rightly calling concentration camps “concentration camps” with more coverage than a high profile rape victim of Trump’s or his unstable decision making that almost started a war in the ME is corrupt. AdLib an hour ago
Murph–yes, the impeachment process is flawed. But, Dems still have the power of the House investigations. So far, they’ve been stonewalled by this administration, and to me, that is the problem. Every Dem should be on TV and in the press every day, asking for repubs why they’re not doing anything, given the abuses/madness/illegality going on in plain view! glenn an hour ago
The Impeachment hammer…..a hammer with only a handle and lacking a head, claw or a ball….thud, thud, thud….. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago
Murph – It’s like feeling more assured when Trump says, “I was about to nuke Iran but decided against it at the last minute.” Um…reassuring, it’s not. Evidence of a weak-minded, impulsive and dangerous fool, yes. AdLib an hour ago
Hi Guest216! AdLib an hour ago
Murph, too late. The Iranians called his bluff and nor Mr Blobby is trying to be ‘humanitarian’ (Cough Cough) pinkpantheroz an hour ago
Hi, Guest, welcome pinkpantheroz an hour ago
Murph–again, the impeachment process may be toothless, but congressional investigations should not be. So far, Dems are just going through the motions, IMO. glenn an hour ago
Hi Guest 216. glenn an hour ago
Meanwhile in Mo….my states one remaining planned parenthood clinic has decided that its doctors will NOT do unnecessary pelvic exams of their clients for whom no such exam is called for AND as a result the state has revoked its license to operate. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago
PPO–This is an aside, but speaking of “cough, cough”, did you see the way Trudeau trolled the TLB in the oval office the other day? It was priceless! glenn an hour ago
Good for them, Murph! What an utterlyevil and stupid regulation. pinkpantheroz an hour ago
Murph–yup. Good ole MO! glenn an hour ago
glenn, sure did ! With additional eyeroll! pinkpantheroz an hour ago
glenn – The sad truth is that the House hearings have already failed and lost all momentum because of Trump’s stonewalling. They fail again and again (why wasn’t Hope Hicks in a public hearing where her obstruction of justice could be seen by all Americans? Thanks “brilliant” Dems). The only tool left in their toolbox is impeachment and Pelosi won’t allow it so this ship called America will sink as Pelosi’s Orchestra plays a song of hubris. AdLib an hour ago
There is a judge whose injunction is keeping the clinic open….he is all that stands between complete closure and the state. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago
Ad–everything you say is sad, but true. glenn an hour ago
Completely disagree Murph, impeachment isn’t about removal, it is about educating the public and putting some fear into Trump to back him up. AdLib an hour ago
Hi, Jake, welcome pinkpantheroz an hour ago
Who is to say that the stonewalling would end because Impeachment hearings have begun…why is there any sense that things would be different. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago
Jake, old friend, so good to so you hear…. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago
Murph – Why should Dems do nothing instead of impeachment? Because their hearings are worthless. AdLib an hour ago
Hey Jake321! AdLib an hour ago
Hi back. Just dropping in for a short bit to see how this works. Jake321 an hour ago
If the current hearings are doing nothingm why will “impeachment” hearings be different. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago
I worry that Dems SEEING to be doing nothing is bad for the Party and the country. IMO we can’t wait till 2020! pinkpantheroz an hour ago
Ad–I don’t think you’re ever going to put fear into the TLB. He has gotten away with this behavior for all of his life, and now it’s just been elevated. He has absolutely no fear that he will be impeached. Dems need to put the fear into republicans who are up for re-election, and have to defend the TLB’s behavior. glenn an hour ago
Jake….this is a gabfest….we rumble right along….. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago
Why not? Jake321 an hour ago
Jake–just jump right in. Please just let us know to whom your comment is addressed, since we are all “talking” at the same time. glenn an hour ago
Folks…..I continue to point out that the indictment here is of the Constitution which has once again failed miserably to address issues of power in the government. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago
glenn – The hearings are a failure. Impeachment is a threat to Trump, it would be Congress using its power to confront Trump and impeachment hearings could swing a majority of Americans to support removal. Then Repubs either get in the sinking ship with Trump come 2020 or follow their voters’ wishes to remove him. AdLib an hour ago
Anyway, my usual. I’m for getting him out. No matter what we do with Impeachment it will not get him out. Our only hope is 2020 since God and Skull & Bones are on vacation. Jake321 an hour ago
Ad….again, I ask, what is it about those I Hearings that will create a different environment. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago
What happens if the Fool orders a strike to completion in the meantime? Russia is rattling swords for Iran now pinkpantheroz an hour ago
Jake! A Voice of Reason!!! MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago
Murph – Impeachment gives The House stronger tools to get testimony and evidence, blows up the only thin reed Trump is using to stonewall, that the hearings aren’t a prosecution so testimony isn’t necessary. AdLib an hour ago
Why thanks. Jake321 an hour ago
Right, Jake. We can’t wait much longer pinkpantheroz an hour ago
Ad…can you name those tools? They are the same tools that reside in the committees. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago
Murph – Your referring to impeachment as equal to hearings isn’t accurate. There is a price to be paid with impeachment, even having a vote to impeach is a threat to Trump. What threat is there to a hearing? AdLib an hour ago
Actually, the major test could not be another drone but Iran increasing enrichment beyond the Israeli red line. Iran seems he’ll bound on doing that soon. Jake321 an hour ago
Murph–I am not disagreeing with your assessment. However, Dems have the power of investigations–public investigations–and the power to get the Mueller report out before the public. Dems need to quit dicking around and start getting these investigations to have some power and impact. Subpoena Mueller, subpoena Don Jr., Ivanka, Kushner, and all of the other cronies who are not in jail. I think Cohen’s testimony had bite; Dems blew it with no follow up. glenn an hour ago
Ad, all very well, but the electoral maps are not changed, so the voter supression, gerrymandering, false propaganda, nasty tricks will all come into play again. Who knows if this will bring victory to the Dems? pinkpantheroz an hour ago
I think the Dems should continue to hold inquiry hearings , all in public, featuring people who will be livig examples of the Mueller report and just keep hitting the key themes…..in the meantime focus on the election. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago
20 candidates is diluting the Dems. We need to whittle down quickly. pinkpantheroz an hour ago
Ad…I am sorry but what made the impeachment inquiry work with both Nixon and Clinton was the cooperation of the Executive branch which acted according to norms that were presumed to be matters of law when in fact they were not…….stonewall……is a big fucking wall. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago
glenn – Trump has shown his fear of going down in history as impeached for a long time, It upsets him, he worries about it. And the fact is, if the impeachment hearings make it very public knowledge what a criminal Trump truly is, he could get removed. What I think is a real mistake is not impeaching because of the concern that Trump may not be removed. AdLib an hour ago