Vox Populi – 02-15-2019

Hi ad!

pinkpantheroz

nothing much! Having a few probs with my late Mum’s estate in Ireland. very hard to communicate with government there.

pinkpantheroz

Apart from that, my Range Hood over the cooker blew up!

pinkpantheroz

$150 later, fixed!

pinkpantheroz

Evenin’ gents.

glenn

what do you think of your Governor endorsing — what’s her name?

pinkpantheroz

hi glenn!

pinkpantheroz

Or, in your case, buenos tardes,PPO.

glenn

OoooooK

pinkpantheroz

tardes = afternoon?

pinkpantheroz

Kamala, thats it.

pinkpantheroz

Same old, same old, Ad. How about you?

glenn

Si.

glenn

Gabh Raibh Maith agat! ( Ta muchly in Irish!)

pinkpantheroz

Since we’re now in “emergency mode” I figure I’d better brush up on my Spanish!

glenn

Where’s my Aussie – Korean dictionary?

pinkpantheroz

Murph!

pinkpantheroz

PPO–Hope that means what I think it means!

glenn

Murph!

glenn

Ad–so who is your choice for the primary?

glenn

Hello….hats off to Ad for this inspired post from the Planet…. “The Art of the Deal” JAN 2018: Dems offer Trump $23 billion to build wall and fix DACA. Trump refuses. DEC 2018: Trump is offered $1.6 billion for border security. He refuses, shuts down gov’t. FEB 2019: Trump signs bill with only $1.3 billion for fencing repair but no wall.

MurphTheSurf3

glenn – it means thatnk you. The other one I won’t share!

pinkpantheroz

Ad–believe it or not, it’s raining here too. Luckily, the temps are moderate.

glenn

Ad, Caesar et sum jam forte, Brutus et erat

pinkpantheroz

Murph–it’s the Art of the Deal–lying bully style.

glenn

I spent the morning at my local watering hole…a quasi bar/grill/coffee shop…that serves my far flung rural neighborhood. Today the place was quite a bit more crowded than usual for a weekday morning. Why? The PRESIDENT was going to declare a NATIONAL EMERGENCY and HIS PEOPLE were there to make their support clear. There were about 50 people. Retirees, farmers. the unemployed, and the self employed. They hoped to see the free-wheeling, unbound CAMPAIGN TRUMP and that is what they got.

MurphTheSurf3

If you saw the event you know how insane it all was. He dodged his own announcement and then undermined the logic of it. He made wild claim after wild claim. He cited events (like generals who said keep their budget building funds, being told by Pres. Obama that he nearly went to war with N. Korea, and much more) that never happened. He was antagonistic and insulting to his predecessors, the Congress (both parties), and the press. AND THE CROWD CHEERED at the watering hole…..CHEERED, CHATTERED AND CHOMPED AWAY at this “unbelievably great speech.” I sat at a back table and there a few others in the room who appeared to be doing what I was doing….skeptically watching the performance and then taking in the crowd.

MurphTheSurf3

Murph, you can’t fix stupid

pinkpantheroz

I posted a discussion starter at Yabberz that pulls together psychological and neurological info to explain the behavior I just described. I find it intriguing and it explains a lot to me.

MurphTheSurf3

First lawsuits filed against Trump’s national emergency order by 3 texas landowners!

pinkpantheroz

Take a look at your leisure if the topic is of interest.

MurphTheSurf3

The lawsuits will come raining down….I cannot imagine Roberts supporting this and that would seal the deal. I even doubt the Gorsuch would.

MurphTheSurf3

Manafort’s going to the Big House!

pinkpantheroz

For 24 years without parole and fines of 20 million recommended.

MurphTheSurf3

Ad…I believe you are spot on in that assessment.

MurphTheSurf3

Isbe enough yet to invoke 25? his diatri

pinkpantheroz

Thanks Ad!

MurphTheSurf3

Murph–you know, though, although this is not a defense of the lying bully, it’s certainly exactly who he is and has always been. He has no idea how government works; nor has he had to for the past two years. In his “businessman” status, it didn’t make any difference where the pot of money came from. Whether it came from a bank, or his charity, if he wanted to spend money on something, he got the money however he could. It’s worked for him all of his life, and so far, it’s working still. The lawsuit means nothing to him, after all, how many lawsuits has he been involved in? And, he’s sure, after packing the Supreme Court, that he will prevail. Once again, why shouldn’t he think that? He’s even stiffing contractors, as he has done all of his life, so once again, what is different? He is treating the presidency like his own personal kingdom, and so far, he’s gotten away with it. He thinks he will get away with it this time, too. So, you really can’t fault him for doing what he’s always done, and always gotten away with. It’s the fucking republicans who are enabling him that make me angry as hell. When he even began talking about this so-called emergency, they should have been telling him, as they would have told President Obama, that impeachment proceedings would begin as soon as he declared an emergency. And his sycophantic cabinet members should have been discussing the 25th amendment as well. However, IOIYAR.

glenn

Brilliantly put, glenn!

pinkpantheroz

PPO…the 25th takes the VP and half the cabinet….its a bin of looneys…no way

MurphTheSurf3

Murph–so your neighbors agree that we have a national emergency?

glenn

Ad–manic and crazed as well as racist when he tried his Chinese accent. The man cannot string two coherent sentences together!

glenn

Glenn…you spell out in painful detail what I wrote to PPO….the GOP has betrayed….well, almost everyone. Trump is Trump but they had the potential to do the right thing and have not/will not.

MurphTheSurf3

glenn, he galoot is now learning that his usual ‘art’ of bluff, bluster, berating, blackguarding, backstabbing & bullying doesn’t work, because he’s no longer ‘Too big to Fail’. He has no Russian money hold over the Dems like he has over the GOP and McConnell

pinkpantheroz

Ad–don’t you know, the 25th amendment is unconstitutional?

glenn

Murph–looking forward to reading your Yabberz post!

glenn

Glenn….they do believe, they do believe, they do believe (said while closing their eyes and tapping their ruby slippers together)

MurphTheSurf3

Thank you Glenn.

MurphTheSurf3

Ad…right you are….and the Dems have been public in warning that what is good for the GOP goose will be good for Dem gander.

MurphTheSurf3

Ad, I’d love to see the State trials start now, so that if h’s pardoned, he will still stay in jail

pinkpantheroz

PPO….the only way Trump will learn is when the house falls in on him……his self delusion is monumental.

MurphTheSurf3

Murph, from your mouth…….

pinkpantheroz

BRB

MurphTheSurf3

Murph–I wasn’t out and about like you today, but I’m afraid my neighbors would agree with yours. It’s so pathetic, really, that supposedly intelligent folks could believe this bullshit; this incoherence; this blatant abuse of power. I will never understand it, but I am with Ad. There is no reasoning with those people; they somehow have to be marginalized and forgotten.

glenn

Murph–exactly. That is what makes me the most angry. The lying bully is only being himself, but the GOP is betraying this country every day they let this incoherent, lying, idiotic baby man exist in the highest office in our land.

glenn

Ad–there are no words to describe what a pitiful excuse of a human being mcconnell is. He’s a coward, a bully, (which are usually the same thing), and a traitor to his oath of office and this country.

glenn

glenn, cant agree more. Is there no way to get McConnell sidelined? This whole thing is down to his adopting the Tea Party and blocking Obama

pinkpantheroz

PPO–Frankly, I don’t see the lying bully learning anything yet. Here’s hoping he will learn a big lesson from the courts soon. From his speech today, I don’t think he’s learned anything; he still thinks he has the upper hand with his packing of the Supreme Court. And, even if he loses at SCOTUS, I still don’t think he’ll learn anything. It won’t be his fault; he will be the victim of a “liberal” court.

glenn

Ad, hopefully they will be reduced to caricatures and conspiracy theories in….. The National Enquirer!

pinkpantheroz

Back….what’s up….whadimiss?

MurphTheSurf3

Ad. Terrifyind thought – that he might stay because we are immune now. NO!

pinkpantheroz

Murph – just Trumps rant

pinkpantheroz

I am now caught up…you guys are a very smart bunch….

MurphTheSurf3

Maher is doing your tweet, Ad?

MurphTheSurf3

Remember that Trump has been spared natural consequences his whole life….daddy’s doing……from high school on….bailing him out again and again and again…..while encouraging him to walk and talk like the biggest cock on the walk.

MurphTheSurf3

Unfortunate choice of simile there, Murph!

pinkpantheroz

PPO – or one I planned!

MurphTheSurf3

Nancy has shrivelled whatever he had left, Murph!

pinkpantheroz

Ad–I agree. The lying bully will still be choosing candidates. It won’t matter if he is defeated in 2020. There will be many excuses, in fact I read today that he has already started with the Dems are going to steal the election bullshit. If his “national emergency” is struck down by the courts, and he can’t construct his wall, then it will be that all those illegals coming across the border that are voting, etc., etc., as the reasons he lost. It will NEVER be his fault!

glenn

I have one set of neighbors who have been slammed by the consequences of Trumpcare, of Trumptariffs and of TrumpTaxBreaks….and somehow they manage to wear their MAGA hats with the same stupid grins on their faces.

MurphTheSurf3

Glenn….that is precisely how he will hold on to power which is why he needs to be Manaforted….Jail time and Fines up the wazoo!

MurphTheSurf3

Ad–I thought the Bill of Rights was only the 2nd Amendment. It’s called the Bill of “Rights” because it’s like two Corinthians. You know, two amendments, because it

glenn

Murph, where will they be able to hang those hats when the banks repossess their farms?

pinkpantheroz

…because it’s the 2nd.

glenn

The Trump Brothers announced today that plans to expand the Trump Brand into communities where Daddy has strong support with a down-brand hotel chain has been set aside.

MurphTheSurf3

PPO…..what you say is not far from the truth….the parents took out a mortgage on a paid for farm to support a son’s new business venture which has been hit hard by Trump created economic conditions.

MurphTheSurf3

Ad–If Dems don’t win the Senate in 2020, then we have a real problem in this country.

glenn

Ad…he did, did he…..I wonder…do you think he was actually using your work.

MurphTheSurf3

Murph – are the poor lads having trouble raising any more Russian Laundry?

pinkpantheroz

Murph–the only thing I can think of as to why these morons are still supporting the lying bully is that they are just so afraid of admitting that they were conned by a master con man. They are ashamed, deep down, but can/will never admit it. Because not looking like a fool is so much more important than our democracy.

glenn

PPO…that source appears to be cut off at the moment….several partners have dropped away as association with a criminal enterprise is not appealing.

MurphTheSurf3

Glenn…that psychology might be at play as well….dey dasn’t admit dey was wrung.

MurphTheSurf3

Ad, perhaps there’s a hole at last in the Trump Cult Dyke.

pinkpantheroz

Ad…that is them…..smaller refunds or higher tax bills…..holy shit.

MurphTheSurf3

Ad–I respectfully disagree as for the lying bully knowing his emergency is going to fail. I am really beginning to believe that he really thinks he is going to win in the Supreme Court, because he thinks he has packed it for that very reason. As I said above, he’s never had to face consequences before, so why should he think he will face any now?

glenn

Glenn…your post speaks to the extraordinary life of self delusion he lives….still he seemed awfully put off today by what he was doing….maybe he knows but then throws up his own smoke cloud to confuse himself.

MurphTheSurf3

Ad–what was your tweet? I don’t have twitter. And, did Maher give you credit? Or did he just say the same thing you did?

glenn

Ad….bankrupt for real, prosecuted and jailed…what sweet thoughts!

MurphTheSurf3

Murph–Well, you know when you’re on the right politically, you’re always “right”.

glenn

Glenn…or so they keep telling themselves.

MurphTheSurf3

When I stepped away a few minutes I took a call from one of my fellow observers at the bar/cafe this morning….he wants to have breakfast tomorrow….I wonder what is up.

MurphTheSurf3

Murph–I can always tell when the lying bully is bluffing. Watch him when he is coming up with his most outrageous statements. He sticks out his chest like a four-year-old and starts moving side to side, with his chin out. That’s when he’s at his most delusional.

glenn

BTW folks, any Idea when President Obama will declare war against Nth Korea? Asking for an orange acquaintence

pinkpantheroz

I suspect Maher may have met his match in the Amazing AD Man!

MurphTheSurf3

Glenn…what a fine observation….I can see him doing that…I think you may have something there.

MurphTheSurf3

Oh, please, please, please, let the lying bully and his three oldest kids end up bankrupt, in jail, and disgraced. Please!

glenn

RICO, Rico Wah ne!

pinkpantheroz

PPO…..I was SO ANGRY when Trump made that inane, insane, Obama claim….What is lying little bastard….he is SOOOO jealous of Obama he can barely keep from retching.

MurphTheSurf3

Ad–go for it!

glenn

Ad, where did I leave that De Lorean? Hmmmmm.

pinkpantheroz

Murph–you must let us know what your fellow observer has to say with a post tomorrow, please!

glenn

Yes, Murph – Story on Tome out/OT, please

pinkpantheroz

Hey folks I just got an e mail. Payless, my shoe store, is closing down ALL of its 2,100 stores in the U.S. and Puerto Rico….Sales start this weekend. I am really pissed off….

MurphTheSurf3

I will keep you all in the loop re. the breakfast. I am intrigued.

MurphTheSurf3

Wow, Murph. Devastating! All those poor employees! All those bastard directors slinking of with millions. Disgusting

pinkpantheroz

This is Payless second U.S. bankruptcy….their international brand continues.

MurphTheSurf3

Ad–I understand what you’re saying about the courts. But the lying bully also said that once it gets to SCOTUS, he will win. I don’t think he’s insane in believing this; I think his whole life has programmed to believe he will win out in the end, because how many times has he dragged lawsuits out in the courts, till people finally gave up? I don’t think he will prevail–or at least he shouldn’t on constitutional grounds–but I don’t think at least two SCOTUS justices don’t give a damn about the constitution. They only give a damn about power. So, while I agree that Article 1 of the Constitution should prevail; I don’t agree that the lying bully believes that. That’s just my opinion.

glenn

Ad…such a good point re. the Dow…..the DJIA makes the wealthy feel warm and fuzzy.

MurphTheSurf3

Glenn….I think you are correct re. Trump’s state of mind but Roberts is very concerned about HIS LEGACY and I think he will bring Gorsuch along with him eventually…Cavanaugh is a lost soul.

MurphTheSurf3

glenn, he won’t be able to afford lawyers for any SCOTUS activity. Congress won’t let him use taxpayers – or other peoples- money. Hopefully!

pinkpantheroz

Murph–thanks. As you know as a former teacher, it’s just as important to observe your students’ body language as it is to observe their statements.

glenn

Ad…the BLS – did it go along with that change?

MurphTheSurf3

Murph–read that about Payless today, too. Just another “winner” in the lying bully’s economy.

glenn

Yes Glenn….body language says a lot to the keen observer….which, in this case, means you.

MurphTheSurf3

Hey….we haven’t said a word about the shootings in Aurora…..just more of the same I guess or Bill Weld’s exploration of a campaign to take on Trump.

MurphTheSurf3

Murph, now There’s a real National Emergency

pinkpantheroz

Yes….Ad and my reading of Gorsuch says the same.

MurphTheSurf3

Murph–that’s what I, and probably most of the US is counting on. That Roberts is concerned about his own legacy, just as he was with the Obamacare tax decision. Hopefully, he can bring Gorusch along with him. As you say, Kegger Kavanaugh is just a lost soul. He lost his soul during his teenage years, IMO.

glenn

Glenn…good summary.

MurphTheSurf3

Ad…agreed…BTW, my internist thinks that Trump is very close to 300 pounds….and at 6’1″……yes the corrupting influence is very much there.

MurphTheSurf3

Hello Guest 60 and Goodbye Guest 60……

MurphTheSurf3

Murph–I read today that that’s what mcconnell is also counting. That the SCOTUS will strike down the lying bully’s emergency. Then the turtle can say he was a “loyal” republican and blame it on the “liberal” SCOTUS, just like the lying bully will do. Another one who will never admit he was wrong; because to do so would mean he betrayed his oath of office.

glenn

House Judiciary Committee is examining Trumps declaration

pinkpantheroz

Murph–do you think Guest 60 left because of something we said? LOL!

glenn

Glenn….that is how McConnell plays things…they call him the Turtle but to me he more a slimy eel.

MurphTheSurf3

Ad….you make a very important point…where are the families of those killed in far greater numbers by the plague of guns in this country.

MurphTheSurf3

Ad–of course the lying bully won’t say anything about Aurora; it wasn’t an immigrant who committed the murders.

glenn

Glenn….or may 60 was scared away by the brightness of our brilliance!

MurphTheSurf3

Murph–a slimy eel describes mcconnell well. He is like a moray eel. He hides under his rock until he comes out to bare his fangs, then scuttles back under his rock.

glenn

That makes sense….in that case he is grossly obese.

MurphTheSurf3

Glenn…that describes him well.

MurphTheSurf3

Murph – the extra long coats and tie try to cover Sir Cumference’s girth. Fat SLob

pinkpantheroz

Ad…McConnell is from KY…cue the banjos!

MurphTheSurf3

Murph–that could be it. 60 just didn’t have his/her computer sunglasses on and was blinded by our brilliance!

glenn

PPO..Sir Cumerence!!!!

MurphTheSurf3

Ad, could be a regular trying but failing to log on

pinkpantheroz

BRB…another call…hmmm

MurphTheSurf3

Ad–Hopefully, the Dem opposing McConnell will do that. Not that it will make much difference to the cult supporters. Hopefully, by 2020, the cultists will be outnumbered by sane people–even in KY.

glenn

Murph – The Thick Plottens!

pinkpantheroz

Yes AD….Angel Moms…..how many kids have been gunned down…..in their schools! No Angel Moms there?

MurphTheSurf3

Hah…someone else is joining us for breakfast….

MurphTheSurf3

If it was Trump he will claim that it was the GREATEST SIGN IN OF ALL TIME ON ANY BLOG ANYWHERE.

MurphTheSurf3

Murph–there are no angel moms in schools because the schools are full of loser teachers who are trying to indoctrinate our youth with those losing liberal values of fairness and justice for all. Why haven’t you figured that out yet?

glenn

GLENN…clearly I am poorly informed.

MurphTheSurf3

Murph–wow! Your breakfast is getting more interesting by the hour!

glenn

I will report back next week. I best get my beauty sleep. We are meeting at IHOP, two towns over at 8.

MurphTheSurf3

Ad–it could have been the lying bully, and he had to leave because we are writing in grammatical, coherent English, and he couldn’t understand what we were saying. That’s why he had to leave.

glenn

‘NIte Murph. Keep us posted!

glenn

Nite one and all….have a good week.

MurphTheSurf3

Well, folks, a great chat, as usual. Keep the faith and hopefully these days will fade into a distant nightmare we will barely remember. Or not!

pinkpantheroz

Sayonara

pinkpantheroz

P.S> I really look forward to these gatherings, my friends.

MurphTheSurf3

G’day. PPO. Take care, and my best to Fergie.

glenn

Ciao all!

pinkpantheroz

My turn to say good night. Take care, Ad. Maybe Guest 60 will come back and chat! Enjoyed our chat tonight, as usual.

glenn