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AdLib On January - 25 - 2019
Vox Populi, our live weekly chat about the week’s events begins tonight at 7:00pm PST. Hope to see you then!
AdLib 4 hours ago
Hey PPO! Happy Trump Loser Day!
AdLib 4 hours ago
Escrib!!!
AdLib 4 hours ago
How are you, E-cat?
AdLib 4 hours ago
Hey there adlib. It took me a moment to figure out which button! It’s been too long
escribacat

4 hours ago
Hi Escribacat! Happy TrumpLoser day.
pinkpantheroz

4 hours ago
Escrib – Heh! We used to have a different chat system.
AdLib 4 hours ago
Pretty good. It’s been a great day, no? I had a hella year (hella couple years)..
escribacat

4 hours ago
Hey Murph!
AdLib 4 hours ago
Murph!
pinkpantheroz

4 hours ago
Ah, no wonder.
escribacat

4 hours ago
What a great day for common sense at last!
pinkpantheroz

4 hours ago
Escrib – You know it! It’s been draining, the past 2 years but I’ve got my second wind now with Dems in power in The House, led by Nancy and the Dem 2020 primary ramping up.
AdLib 4 hours ago
Hi there S-Cat….long time no “see”! Hey PPO! And Howdy to AdLib whose fine “Cave” Article was just posted to Yabberz as a link….one of the very best pieces he has ever done.
MurphTheSurf3

4 hours ago
And today was an amazingly good day!
AdLib 4 hours ago
Hey Murph the Surf
escribacat

4 hours ago
Yabberz….?
escribacat

4 hours ago
Really appreciate it, Murph!!!
AdLib 4 hours ago
SCat……what’s been the hap’s with you!
MurphTheSurf3

4 hours ago
I do want to see Stone convicted for a life sentence though.
AdLib 4 hours ago
Hey Harleigh!
AdLib 4 hours ago
Harleigh!
pinkpantheroz

4 hours ago
Harleigh and PPoz….LTNS all folks!
escribacat

4 hours ago
Has Stone got Rudi as his lawyer? Talking to the media after his arrest means he can’t claim the 5th! Yippee!
pinkpantheroz

4 hours ago
Hi folks!! FUCK TRUMP!!!!
Harleigh

4 hours ago
S-Cat

is an emerging site that I am promoting. Ad is a member. Not nearly as intimate as the Planet (so I cross promote)…..I would love to pull more folks to this chat for example.

MurphTheSurf3

4 hours ago
Trump is running out of places to hide from Mueller now! And Mueller is gradually building the prison cell around Trump. You think anyone has told Trump that he won’t be in the WH in 2 years and can really go to prison?
AdLib 4 hours ago
Murph, just checked it out. I will spend some time there! Thanks.
escribacat

4 hours ago
PPO – Stone has the carefree nature of someone who knows that they will be pardoned.
AdLib 4 hours ago
Trump’s wall will soon be surrounding him with bars at one end
pinkpantheroz

4 hours ago
Adlib, Donald is not programmed for that kind of information. He only allows HAPPY NEWZ!
escribacat

4 hours ago
Stone was arrested and charged right here in FTL. yay
Harleigh

4 hours ago
PPO – And forget Mexico, I’ll pay to build a wall and bars around Trump.
AdLib 4 hours ago
Stone is angling for a pardon but he’s a bullshitter. I thought he looked really pissed. He jaw was grinding.
escribacat

4 hours ago
S Cat…isn’t “Nancy” Amazing……I have called her office three times to say “You Go, Girl”- although not in those words. The first call was on the day of her taking up the Gavel to wish her the best and to say how proud I am of her. I had no idea she would make such strides so quickly.
MurphTheSurf3

4 hours ago
I love Nancy!! I got to vote for her when she first ran for office in San Fran a couple lifetimes ago.
escribacat

4 hours ago
PPO…prison walls – indeed.
MurphTheSurf3

4 hours ago
Poke in the eye, Murph to those who opposed her. What a gal!
pinkpantheroz

4 hours ago
Escrib – True, Trump’s now surrounded by spineless yes-men. But maybe one of his lawyers might mention that on 1/20/2021, he won’t have any power anymore to stop anyone from throwing him in prison?
AdLib 4 hours ago
PPO…indeed…..the idea that she would not be strong enought has been put to flight.
MurphTheSurf3

4 hours ago
He must know that the only thing that will keep him out of prison is the presidency itself.
escribacat

4 hours ago
Glenn….greetings….I got here on time for a change! AND S-Cat is here! HoooRaaaah!
MurphTheSurf3

4 hours ago
Harleigh – Too bad there wasn’t enough notice, you could have chanted, “Lock him up!” as he tried to blather on.
AdLib 4 hours ago
Hey glenn!
AdLib 4 hours ago
Didn’t Stone Threaten Mueller’s dog?
pinkpantheroz

4 hours ago
PPO — Stone got thrown off Twitter for doing something nasty but I don’t remember what.
escribacat

4 hours ago
Nancy Pelosi is brilliant! She played Trump like the rube he plays his voters for.
AdLib 4 hours ago
Thanks, Scrib
pinkpantheroz

4 hours ago
Evenin’ gents! What a glorious day, huh? Stone arrested, the lying bully caves, and coulter and conservatives are pissed! Works for me!
glenn

4 hours ago
I’m feeling pretty damn good, Glenn. November was pretty sweet too.
escribacat

4 hours ago
PPO….from the indictment documents. “14. “On or about April 9, 2018, STONE wrote in an email to Person 2, ‘You are a rat. A stoolie. You backstab your friends-run your mouth my lawyers are dying Rip you to shreds.’ STONE also said he would ‘take that dog away from you,” referring to Person 2’s dog. On or about the same day, STONE wrote to Person 2, ‘I am so ready. Let’s get it on. Prepare to die [expletive].'”
MurphTheSurf3

4 hours ago
Murph–good to “see” you, and S-Cat, too!
glenn

4 hours ago
Coulter called Trump a wimp! Ouch! And he went through all this self-damage just to please her!
AdLib 4 hours ago
S-cat–November being good because Dems took the House?
glenn

4 hours ago
I stopped by my local watering hole this evening……it’s like someone died!
MurphTheSurf3

4 hours ago
Hannity must be starting to feel that itch at the back of his neck by now
pinkpantheroz

4 hours ago
Person 2 is the radio host, what’s his name?
AdLib 4 hours ago
I heard on CBSN that person 1 is Corsi and Person 2 is Credito (sp?)
escribacat

4 hours ago
Randy Credico
AdLib 4 hours ago
S Cat….I think that is correct.
MurphTheSurf3

4 hours ago
Murph–actually,someone did die. The lying bully. Hey, do you think his “Promises Made, Promises Kept” banner will be at his next rally?
glenn

4 hours ago
Right… Randy Credico
escribacat

4 hours ago
I’d love to have been with you, Murph
pinkpantheroz

4 hours ago
And he and Corsi will testify against Stone…but they both have the credibility of a Trump promise.
AdLib 4 hours ago
Corsi was the “intellectual heft” behind the Obama is not a citizen meme. A conspiracy theorist at the top of the (dung) heap.
MurphTheSurf3

4 hours ago
Isn’t Corsi also the one who started “pizzagate”?
glenn

4 hours ago
NOne of those guys have any credibility — esp Stone. Have you guys seen ‘Get Me Roger Stone” documentary on Netflix. Super good
escribacat

4 hours ago
Glenn….he has a long list of actual “witch hunts” to his “credit.
MurphTheSurf3

4 hours ago
Glenn, I don’t know about pizzagate but he started the “Hillary is going to drop dead any second” rumor.
escribacat

4 hours ago
I would like whoever the Dem nom is to keep pointing out all the criminals Trump has surrounded himself with…and all the crimes he’s had to settle. He is a two-bit criminal with his daddy’s billions.
AdLib 4 hours ago
S-cat–haven’t seen the documentary. However, all that needs to be said about Roger Stone is that he has a tattoo of Nixon on his back. What a creep!
glenn

4 hours ago
It’s well worth the watch, and it shows his darling tattoo. He has been involved in pretty much every major ratfuck since post-Watergate
escribacat

4 hours ago
P.S. Saw VICE for the Second Time tonight…..It was even better than the first time. I kept thinking where would be if Trump had a Cheney……good Gawd A’Mighty!
MurphTheSurf3

4 hours ago
But her EMAILS!!
Harleigh

4 hours ago
Mike Cernovich was a big promoter of Pizzagate.
AdLib 4 hours ago
Stone took down Dan Rather. I think Corsi was the “Swift boat ” etc etc guys who smeared Kerry.
escribacat

4 hours ago
Will anyone believe Bernie sanders is a Democrat?
pinkpantheroz

3 hours ago
PPO Nope
escribacat

3 hours ago
PPO no.
Harleigh

3 hours ago
Bernie will be vetted this time around.
escribacat

3 hours ago
Escrib – Yes, Stone is a human cancer on our democracy, it is kind of amazing to imagine that he could be fumigated from our society.
AdLib 3 hours ago
Ad–remember when conservatives went with Obama “palling around with terrorists”, so he was automatically a terrorist? And when they went with Rev. Wright, so Obama wasn’t a Christian? Payback is only fair. If you surround yourself with criminals, then that makes you one, too, at least according to repub logic. Of course, most of us knew the lying bully was a criminal long ago.
glenn

3 hours ago
fuck bernie
Harleigh

3 hours ago
hear, hear, H
pinkpantheroz

3 hours ago
Okay, you started this Escrib, who do you and everyone else like so far to be the Dem nom?
AdLib 3 hours ago
AD way too early
Harleigh

3 hours ago
I think Bernie’s ship sailed in 2016.
AdLib 3 hours ago
I have some favorites and a few UGHS. I love Brown/Klobuchar. Inslee/Klobuchar. Harris. Geez. what’s his name who is on the intelligence committee with Schiff…he is about to announce
escribacat

3 hours ago
Anyone think that Trump would shut the gov down again in three weeks if he does not get something that saves his face?
MurphTheSurf3

3 hours ago
Murph I think that ship is sailing out of the harbor right now.
escribacat

3 hours ago
Ad….re. Bernie…yes….
MurphTheSurf3

3 hours ago
Hareigh – Just saying who do you like, not expecting any of us could predict too much who will win.
AdLib 3 hours ago
Ad–I agree with Harleigh. Fuck Bernie. Biden should be out, too. Their time has gone. Have to wait and see how it plays out, but I’d go with Harris, Warren, or O’Rourke.
glenn

3 hours ago
I thought you guys were all Bernie fans!
escribacat

3 hours ago
Glenn — I agree. Please no Bernie and no Biden.
escribacat

3 hours ago
And Tulsi Gabbard is bad news.
escribacat

3 hours ago
ecat LOL
Harleigh

3 hours ago
Gabbard is awful.
AdLib 3 hours ago
I did not want to be impressed by Kamala Harris but I am….a couple of Planeteers who I trust do not have confidence in her.
MurphTheSurf3

3 hours ago
And it’s funny to see many Dems already dissing Gabbard.
AdLib 3 hours ago
S-cat–I liked what Bernie had to say, didn’t like him so much when he lost the nomination, and kept bashing Hillary.
glenn

3 hours ago
I want a WOMAN to be our next President…..
MurphTheSurf3

3 hours ago
Isn’t Gabbard a DINO?
pinkpantheroz

3 hours ago
Glenn, he did not lose gracefully.
escribacat

3 hours ago
I also like Kirsten Gillibrand.
MurphTheSurf3

3 hours ago
Murph–I would LOVE to see a woman, but I’ll take a strong man, too. Strong in progressive principles, not strong like the person now occupying the oval office.
glenn

3 hours ago
PPO – Gabbard is much worse than a DINO, she’s pro-Assad, anti-LGBTQ and blamed “both sides” for the Trump shutdown. She’s dead in the water, doesn’t hve a prayer.
AdLib 3 hours ago
I like Kirsten but not the way she dumped Franken.
Harleigh

3 hours ago
Not Kirsten. saw her on Colbert – too plastic and formulaic
pinkpantheroz

3 hours ago
Ad, I agree about Gabbard. Who is supposed to be her base? Nobody likes her (except apparently Hakeem Jeffries went to school with her and endorsed her).
escribacat

3 hours ago
All–It seems that Michael Bennet is also looking to explore a candidacy. He’s the one who bashed Cruz the other day on the Senate floor.
glenn

3 hours ago
Glenn there are plenty of women who meet your standard….so I am pushing for that. Major game change….
MurphTheSurf3

3 hours ago
Good, Ad. I was uncomfortable with Gabbard
pinkpantheroz

3 hours ago
Kirsten on Maddow was terrific.
MurphTheSurf3

3 hours ago
You can check out my article on the candidates, I divided most into “less likely” and “more likely” and a couple “not likely”. Gabbard and Bloomberg are the not likely.
AdLib 3 hours ago
I liked Kirsten on Maddow too. But too many libs are pissed at her and blame her for Franken, whether it’s fair or not. I happen to think it’s really not fair but she’s not my favorite by far
escribacat

3 hours ago
Don’t get to see Madow, unfortunately. Tonight’s show must be a doozie!
pinkpantheroz

3 hours ago
Murph–agreed. Madam Speaker has shown us all how strong women can be. Just can’t get over how she absolutely owns the lying bully. And, he still hasn’t come up with a nickname for her. Telling, I think.
glenn

3 hours ago
Bennet was so powerful in his condemnation of Cruz- and by extension many of his fellow GOP. I have never seen him so passionate.
MurphTheSurf3

3 hours ago
PPO. I don’t have cable but I can stream most of Maddow that they post online later in the evening
escribacat

3 hours ago
Yeah, I was very pleased with Bennett. He wasn’t that popular when he first got elected in Colorado but he is now
escribacat

3 hours ago
All of them have issues to deal with. Gillibrand was so quick to push Franken out, it looked like a self-promoting thing and guilty-until-proven-innocent.
AdLib 3 hours ago
Escrib – I’ll check that out
pinkpantheroz

3 hours ago
Kamala Harris has many plusses though she did refuse to prosecute Steve Mnuchin for financial crimes through his bank when she was AG in CA then took campaign money from him.
AdLib 3 hours ago
Murph, Bennet was great. More of that, please
pinkpantheroz

3 hours ago
Eric Swalwell was the other guy I was trying to think of. He is getting ready to announce.
escribacat

3 hours ago
glenn, his nickname for Nancy is……….. wait for it…………Nancy!
pinkpantheroz

3 hours ago
Escrib – Gabbard does have supporters who may not know the whole story about her, just that she stood up to the DNC and supported Bernie.
AdLib 3 hours ago
One of the themes running through a lot of Stone coverage today is how odd it is for so many to be lying so widely and wildly for things that while improper are not illegal…leading commentators to suggest that real crimes are one layer below and that the shovels are out. Dig, dig, dig.
MurphTheSurf3

3 hours ago
Ad. yeah my local Dem party posted a glowing tribute to Gabbard and I posted an article, I think from alternet, that described her weird Islamaphobia.
escribacat

3 hours ago
I’m just hoping that there are not so many candidates that a strong electable candidate isn’t the nominee.
Harleigh

3 hours ago
Murph–it was a brilliant speech. He spoke without notes, but with plenty of passion for over 20 minutes, and brought up bills that conservatives refused to pass. Remembered the dates and what was in the bills. It was a show of intelligence and passion combined.
glenn

3 hours ago
Murph, that is one of the big questions about Flynn lying about talking to Russians. It wasn’t illegal, maybe a little rude, but why the hell did he work so hard to cover it up?
escribacat

3 hours ago
I don’t know that Gillibrand would be more popular than Amy Klobuchar in that lane of the primary.
AdLib 3 hours ago
S cat….and that pattern is in place with the other six…
MurphTheSurf3

3 hours ago
Harleigh, I just hope they don’t rip each other up.
escribacat

3 hours ago
I like Klobuchar as well…
MurphTheSurf3

3 hours ago
Ad–that doesn’t look good for Harris. You can be sure repubs will exploit that contribution for all it’s worth.
glenn

3 hours ago
Scat – yes that’s the danger. Look what happened with the GOP last time.
pinkpantheroz

3 hours ago
Klobuchar is really my favorite. She’s not well known though and she’s very understated which is why I like her so much. She was really cool when Kavanaugh freaked out and puked at her
escribacat

3 hours ago
S-cat–not familiar with Salwell. Info, please?
glenn

3 hours ago
Who likes SOC?
pinkpantheroz

3 hours ago
I really like Eric Swalwell though my superficial thought about him is that he seems kind of young and guy-next-door to be president. But it is superficial, as a Dem, he has been strong and smart all through the Trump reign.
AdLib 3 hours ago
Murph and S-cat–please tell me more about Klobuchar.
glenn

3 hours ago
AOC?
AdLib 3 hours ago
Swalwell is on the House intelligence committee.
escribacat

3 hours ago
PPO–If you’re referring to O’Casio, she’s not old enough yet.
glenn

3 hours ago
Sorry! Fingers!
pinkpantheroz

3 hours ago
Glenn, if you can find it, check out Klobuchar’s questioning of Kavanaugh
escribacat

3 hours ago
I’ve always liked lobuchar for all the right reasons. She’s always solid and never a fucking showboat running for the mic.
Harleigh

3 hours ago
PPO SOC?
MurphTheSurf3

3 hours ago
Who is SOC?
escribacat

3 hours ago
AOC, the feisty one!
pinkpantheroz

3 hours ago
Murph – I think that will be proven to be the case, Stone’s crimes are buried beneath a mountain of lies but it seems Mueller’s found a lot of them.
AdLib 3 hours ago
S-cat–will do, thanks.
glenn

3 hours ago
Really like AOC! Her energy, fearlessness, maybe a bit like a young Pelosi?
AdLib 3 hours ago
Ad…it is what is NOT in the indictments but implied that spell out “DOOM and GLOOM” for All the Presidents Mice and Men
MurphTheSurf3

3 hours ago
I have to admit I’m OD’d on AOC right now. Too much exposure.
escribacat

3 hours ago
I must say that I’m enjoying the prospect of women running for POTUS and it no longer being a big deal.
pinkpantheroz

3 hours ago
Ad–I’ve always wondered what’s taking Mueller so long, but I’m beginning to believe that he’s trying to be thorough so neither the lying bully nor his minions can slither away from their crimes.
glenn

3 hours ago
I’m so happy with all the women running! And I have to say, Hillary paved the way for them, even though she may never get credit for it
escribacat

3 hours ago
Escrib – Yes, I’ve seen that too, people assuming Gabbard is a brash Progressive, not having researched just how RW she is.
AdLib 3 hours ago
AOC is very interesting but needs to learn the inside game before she takes on the world.
MurphTheSurf3

3 hours ago
agreed, glenn. Thorough investigation with all threads leading to #Defendant1
pinkpantheroz

3 hours ago
What’s really on my mind is what the hell is going to happen next?
escribacat

3 hours ago
PPO–It’s so nice to see so many strong women in office, that’s for sure.
glenn

3 hours ago
I mean, with the tightening noose.
escribacat

3 hours ago
Klobuchar is a very solid, smart and strong Dem. Her one weak spot is that she opposes universal healthcare, she wants the ACA to continue but be improved. Not a terrible issue for her but some Progressives may hesitate a little on that.
AdLib 3 hours ago
I mean….really, does anyone think Kushner and Junior will avoid being indicted?
escribacat

3 hours ago
Scrib, don’t worry about 21 days from now. Plans are there, no doubt to prevent him doing any more damage.
pinkpantheroz

3 hours ago
Once again, guys, AOC isn’t old enough to run for president. You have to be at least 35 years old, and she’s not even close. The good news is it gives her time to either burnish her credentials, or burn out!
glenn

3 hours ago
The Stone arrest this morning was very well managed Theater (tons of cars, tons of agents and cops, a search, and then Stone in shackles at the hearing)….Mueller wants all the fellow travelers to know what is coming to a cell near them.
MurphTheSurf3

3 hours ago
Murph – Agreed, I think Mueller intentionally left out charges he could have filed against Stone to protect and shield his cases against Don Jr., Kushner and Trump.
AdLib 3 hours ago
PPO I’m thinking of the investigation. Donald is increasingly acting like a beast with rabies. Wait til they start moving in further….unpredictable what he will do
escribacat

3 hours ago
S-cat–great description of the lying bully. A beast with rabies, indeed!
glenn

3 hours ago
Klobuchar’s position of healthcare is pretty well defined and refined…..the trouble is that it takes someone who is willing to dig into policy to really get it.
MurphTheSurf3

3 hours ago
And furthermore, it’s not just Mueller. It’s SDNY and it’s the endless subpoenas and investigations our lovely beautiful Dems in the House are going to start churning out. Man, it’s gonna be a wild ride.
escribacat

3 hours ago
scrib, yes. But his circle of fellow-crims is tightening daily. Perhaps he will fall ill and have to resign. What a pity.
pinkpantheroz

3 hours ago
glenn – Yesterday I was a bit pissed off at Trump sustaining the shutdown and cursed Mueller for taking so long to take Trump down. Then today happened. I think he knew I was getting frustrated with him.
AdLib 3 hours ago
Ad, I have been very patient. I think Mueller is a careful prosecutor and I’d rather have careful than fast.
escribacat

3 hours ago
Ad…I have it on good authority that Mueller, in an aside, told one his aides that it was “time to ad lib.”
MurphTheSurf3

3 hours ago
BTW, not suggesting AOC for the primary, she is too young legally to run and too green but she will be a force to reckon with. The RW is going insane over her, it’s fun to watch.
AdLib 3 hours ago
Ad, yes, he’s terrified of you. But it also may have had something to do with Congressmen being delayed at airports for thei early dash home!
pinkpantheroz

3 hours ago
Murph–I know I sound like a broken record (is that still an expression???), but the Dem candidate in 2020 better be able to explain policy in simple terms, while digging into it to show why it will work. All policies–health care, immigration, infrastructure, budget, etc.
glenn

3 hours ago
escrib – I think Trump’s kids are next but Mueller may want to finish his report before indicting them (he may have already included them in his sealed indictments) because after that, Trump will get rid of him one way or another I think…and I think Mueller thinks.
AdLib 3 hours ago
Ad–LOL! Certainly Mr. Mueller is his own man, and dances to the beat of his own drummer.
glenn

3 hours ago
Ad, someone suggested AOC would run for mayor of NYC after a few years in congress.
escribacat

3 hours ago
10 years of Cohen records and recordings expose most of Trumps crimes and cohorts.
Harleigh

3 hours ago
Glenn…I agree but in doing so….they also provide plenty of targets for the policy to be picked apart….a way of dealing with this is to follow the Obama model….Very well developed position papers on his site with campaign rhetoric as an outline.
MurphTheSurf3

3 hours ago
And dont’ forget who else is cooperating, Weisselberg — CFO of Trump Org. All the little Trumpsters are under the microscope now and the CFO knows all the dirt — between him and Cohen.
escribacat

3 hours ago
Vote for Michelle and that would be a fucking hoot and a half!!
Harleigh

3 hours ago
Murph–that’s what Hillary did, too, I think. She just got caught up in the media madness that wouldn’t even look at the lying bully’s real crimes while they were picking apart her so-called crimes.
glenn

3 hours ago
Escrib – Very true, as the SDNY and Mueller cases move forward, the House will be pursuing the mountain of crimes and ethical violations by Trump and his crime family. The next two years will be hell for Trump…but he may be acclimated to Hell, he does spend a lot of time in Trump properties.
AdLib 3 hours ago
S Cat….AOC needs admin experience and enough legislative moxie to move up the ladder…I fear that she is being treated like that outrageously precocious kid who then turns into a massive pain in the neck.
MurphTheSurf3

3 hours ago
I feel quite certain that the next two years will be a helluva lot more fun than the last two.
escribacat

3 hours ago
Murph, I agree about AOC. I got turned off right away when the first thing she did was join a sit-in outside Nancy’s office. Arrg. She kinda straightened up and got on board with the Dem program quickly and I hope she sticks with that
escribacat

3 hours ago
I hope AOC gets to work and does not become a Gomert of the left.
Harleigh

3 hours ago
Escrib – I have been pretty patient with Mueller but as I was watching our system of justice, air travel, the EPA and so much more being shutdown, I got a bit impatient. Trump is happily destroying the US while Repubs fearfully follow him and Putin laughs.
AdLib 3 hours ago
I heard Trump highlighted a new threat to the US – the Suspestic Boys!
pinkpantheroz

3 hours ago
Harleigh–I know you meant that as a joke, but voting for someone not on the ballot, or for third-party helped the lying bully get elected. Dems need to keep their vote together; hopefully, we will have a strong, progressive candidate to appeal to independents. That being said, I think Michelle would be an awesome president, and her husband would set the standard for a First Man, but she has said many times that she doesn’t want to run.
glenn

3 hours ago
Murph – Heh! Time to ad lib indeed!
AdLib 3 hours ago
Ad, I was just talking to my buddy from NOAA….she has been furloughed. She lives from paycheck to paycheck. She hadn’t yet heard if she was going to work Monday
escribacat

3 hours ago
PPO – I’d prefer to think Mueller is just terrified of me getting mad at him but if you say so.
AdLib 3 hours ago
Murph and S-cat–I like AOC’s positions so far, but I do think she gets a little carried away with the social media stuff, and “hitting back” just like someone else.
glenn

3 hours ago
glenn, sadly, the people most qualified to be POTUS are not nominating.
pinkpantheroz

3 hours ago
I am a huge fan of Adam Schiff but I’m happy to keep him in charge of the House Intelligence committee instead of running for prez.
escribacat

3 hours ago
S Cat….notes are being sent via e mail to all furloughed employees with details re. when, where and how to report.
MurphTheSurf3

3 hours ago
Ad–I know I’m terrified of you getting mad at me, so I’m sure Mueller is, too.
glenn

3 hours ago
Glenn…. I would vote for Michelle first but she would need a very strong running mate with a ton of knowledge and most of that I see in Elizabeth. Not sure a double female ticket could win though.
Harleigh

3 hours ago
S-cat–I agree about Schiff, but if he wants to make a run for the presidency, I think he should be able to.
glenn

3 hours ago
escrib – I’ve been concerned that the Dems, up until 2018, were an aging party that weren’t bringing up the next gen of Dems. I want to support the ones we now have and see them grow into leadership positions (watching all these old Dems and Repubs ask dumb questions when Mark Zuckerberg was at a hearing was embarassing). Dems needed to reinvigorate their ranks and 2018 helped with that in a big way. I know AOC can be a bot much at times but overall, I see her as one of those who are the future of the Dems…tempered just a little as they gain more wisdom and experience.
AdLib 3 hours ago
Nancy is second in the line of succession…some are seeing her as a line jumper…..mostly my GOP pals….they grind their teeth when they point this…their MAN has been put into his place by….you know, a woman! How humiliating. HAH!
MurphTheSurf3

3 hours ago
Beto might drum up the rank and file
pinkpantheroz

3 hours ago
Ad…I share your Dem concerns….2018 has been good for the party.
MurphTheSurf3

3 hours ago
Ad, yes, I hope Nancy and the other leaders get right on the task of grooming the next generation of leadership, and standing back when there are stirrings of leadership emerging
escribacat

3 hours ago
Harleigh–agreed, I would vote for Michelle in a heartbeat, but she seems to be very firm in not wanting to have anything to do with politics. As for a double female ticket, although I’d love to see one, I agree it might not be a winning one. It’s really sad to me to type that, because, for sure, a lot of these double men tickets we have had have not been so great, so a double female ticket might be just the thing.
glenn

3 hours ago
glenn – Hillary was a problematic candidate, with negatives at the start that were as high as Trump’s and an establishment vibe that wasn’t what energized the younger voters that Dems need. But she would have won if not for Comey and the Russians. This time, we will have a candidate with little baggage and we’ll be prepared for the Russian invasion into our election and beat it just as we did in 2018.
AdLib 3 hours ago
Harleigh – No one on the left could be a Gohmert!
AdLib 3 hours ago
funny we now have so many women leaders and NO leading men HAHAHAHA
Harleigh

3 hours ago
Ad–I agree with you about the next generation of Dems. Don’t forget, also, that people like Schiff, Bennet, and most of the women candidates, except for Warren, are also young.
glenn

3 hours ago
Fergie just asked about Claire McCaskill. Any thoughts?
pinkpantheroz

3 hours ago
Ad, agree. I was never happy with Hillary – but….she earned the nomination…setting up a Trump win (with lots of assists.)
MurphTheSurf3

3 hours ago
I like Adam Schiff a lot but his very sedate demeanor wouldn’t do so well for him in a primary.
AdLib 3 hours ago
Ad….and both the Prez and VP candidates have to be able to rouse a crowd.
MurphTheSurf3

3 hours ago
Ad, that’s the problem with the candidates that I like. I can’t stand the ranters (eg, Bernie). I like Adam and Amy precisely because they are calm. Obama had both — the calm demeanor and the charisma.
escribacat

3 hours ago
Two of the top tier candidates may be Biden and Beto. What do you think of them?
AdLib 3 hours ago
Murph–oh give me a break. Nancy as a “line jumper”? What the hell do they call the cretin now occupying the oval office?
glenn

3 hours ago
Ad, I would vote for either of them but meh on Biden and hmmm, he’s hot on Beto.
escribacat

3 hours ago
ecat that’s how I fell too.
Harleigh

3 hours ago
feel
Harleigh

3 hours ago
I love Biden BUT not in the top spot…..age, gender, race, and a certain crassness will not play well in this environment. Beto has yet to prove himself in performance….
MurphTheSurf3

3 hours ago
Ad–I agree. Hillary had a lot of baggage, but I don’t think Bernie would have won, either.
glenn

3 hours ago
Glenn…I found the idea amusing as well….Trump broke into the line and bowled the rest over…
MurphTheSurf3

3 hours ago
Hillary had 3 million more votes than Donald. It was those dang three states and a very small number of vote that got him the EC. (Stein was a spoiler in those states).
escribacat

3 hours ago
PPO – Yes, I think Beto could be among the few candidates who could really energize the Dem base…but we have to know more about him and see how he handles himself in the primary. I’m going to support multiple candidates. My faves so far are Beto, Warren and Klobuchar (who hasn’t announced yet) but I am open to others. And I will be 200% behind whoever becomes the nom.
AdLib 3 hours ago
Ad, there are too many excellent options!
escribacat

3 hours ago
S-cat–agreed. We need a candidate that’s both calm and charismatic. Look at Pelosi. She speaks in practically a whisper, but she packs a punch in that whisper. Harry Reid was the same way; and he had charisma, too, IMO. I think charisma is overrated, give me someone who knows how our government runs, who actually WANTS to see our government succeed, and someone who knows policy.
glenn

3 hours ago
And S Cat traditional Dem voters in many states (like wi) did not show up……voting discipline is something the GOP does much better at than Dems.
MurphTheSurf3

3 hours ago
Glenn, exactly.
escribacat

3 hours ago
glenn – I’m very happy about not having a bunch of old white men as our throng of nominees. Nothing against them but would be nice to have options.
AdLib 3 hours ago
Ad–I’ll take Beto over Biden any day.
glenn

3 hours ago
Glenn, me too. I’ve always liked Joe a lot but I’m ready to move on.
escribacat

3 hours ago
Ad, you have highlighted the crux of whoever gets nominated. We must all back whoever it is 200%, likeable or not.
pinkpantheroz

3 hours ago
I did unfortunately also see those old clips of JOe humiliating ANita Hill during the Thomas hearings, which I had forgotten about. Ugh. It was bad.
escribacat

3 hours ago
PPO – McCaskill just lost her seat, that really undermines her as a viable candidate. She’s a bit more conservative too than the Dem base.
AdLib 3 hours ago
PPO, amen to that.
escribacat

3 hours ago
PPO–Double amen!
glenn

3 hours ago
Well…I think I will head for the door….with the words of Lewis Carroll…. “The time has come,” the Walrus said, “To talk of many things: Of shoes–and ships–and sealing-wax– Of cabbages–and kings– And why the sea is boiling hot– And whether pigs have wings.”
MurphTheSurf3

3 hours ago
Murph, now do you really have that memorized or did you cheat!!!!
escribacat

3 hours ago
‘Nite, Murph. Great quote!
glenn

3 hours ago
later murph… right behind ya
Harleigh

3 hours ago
‘Nite, Harleigh.Have a good weekend.
glenn

3 hours ago
S Cat…memorized!!!!
MurphTheSurf3

3 hours ago
”was Brillig, and the slithy toves…….. all i can remember. ‘night, Murph
pinkpantheroz

3 hours ago
I am impressed!!
escribacat

3 hours ago
PPO..there ya go, mate!
MurphTheSurf3

3 hours ago
Escrib – Charisma is important in a Dem winning the WH. Bill Clinton had it, Obama had it. Dems like to fall in love with their candidate and feel excited about them. In the Dem primary, someone who was more reserved would have a hard time.
AdLib 3 hours ago
Speaking of weekends, as you all know, I live outside of Atlanta, and it’s supposed to snow here next week–just in time for the Super Bowl! It will be a superbowl of traffic if it does snow!
glenn

3 hours ago
you can lead a horse to water…. bur a pencil must be lead – Laurel and Hardy
Harleigh

3 hours ago
S Cat….history profs know lots of minutiae
MurphTheSurf3

3 hours ago
I’m away. Still recovering after 115F Yesterday!
pinkpantheroz

3 hours ago
Night Murph! See you next week!
AdLib 3 hours ago
Night night.
escribacat

3 hours ago
Seeya Harleigh, have a great weekend!
AdLib 3 hours ago
Harleigh–LOL!
glenn

3 hours ago
Harleigh….be sure you see the new movie about Laurel and Hardy…very powerful and touching.
MurphTheSurf3

3 hours ago
PPO 115….yuck!
MurphTheSurf3

3 hours ago
‘Nite, PPO. Stay cool!
glenn

3 hours ago
glenn – Wow, a Superbowl in the snow! That will be different!
AdLib 3 hours ago
MConnell – Stan. Trump = Ollie ‘Another fine mess you got me into!
pinkpantheroz

3 hours ago
Ciao all!
pinkpantheroz

3 hours ago
Ad–well, the stadium is actually covered, but with Atlanta traffic and snow and ice to boot, it will be a gigantic traffic jam.
glenn

3 hours ago
escrib – Yep, Uncle Joe has some bad baggage. I like him but I think he could be a problem as a candidate against Trump. He’s older than him and seems to have gotten a little weaker as he’s aged.
AdLib 3 hours ago
Ad–is it just you and me, or are you still here, s-cat?
glenn

3 hours ago
Oh! Well, that’s better for the players and the game but traffic will be insane!
AdLib 3 hours ago
I’m still here but I’m signing off too, maties. I had a long tiring day and I’m yawning and ready for some sleepytime tea and easy TV
escribacat

3 hours ago
Ad–I think Biden has lost his edge mainly because of his personal losses.
glenn

3 hours ago
It’s been great chatting again!!
escribacat

3 hours ago
I will return.
escribacat

3 hours ago
Escrib – So glad you joined us tonight!
AdLib 3 hours ago
‘Nite, s-cat. Great chatting with you, too!
glenn

3 hours ago
Hasta luego amigos
escribacat

3 hours ago
glenn – Yes, good point. Biden has been through hell, he looks worn down nowadays.
AdLib 3 hours ago
Night Escrib!
AdLib 3 hours ago
I really don’t know that Biden could go toe-to-toe with Trump.
AdLib 3 hours ago
Ad–which is why I think he shouldn’t be in the rough and tumble of presidential politics. He’s too prone to gaffes, and the right would eat him up, IMO. He’s definitely not as sharp as he used to be.
glenn

3 hours ago
Ad–my fervent hope is that no Dem has to go toe-to-toe with the lying bully. I hope he’s out of office by then.
glenn

3 hours ago
But Biden is the Hillary of 2020, the centrist/establishment candidate that the establishment folks want to run. I think it would be a big mistake but I could be wrong.
AdLib 3 hours ago
And I think Biden is too close to Trump in age and in being an old white man. Biden would be the oldest President, 76 in 2020 and 80 at the end of his term. No offense to him in particular but I’m tired of the phony concept that old white men know better and should always be the ones in power.
AdLib 3 hours ago
Okay, here comes potty-mouth. Fuck the centrist/establishment! We need new blood, even if it’s middle-aged blood. But not Biden. I love him; even his gaffes are funny, but his time has come and gone. Give it up, already! And, as far as the establishment goes, that’s another reason the lying bully is in office, IMO. Too many republicans/independents wanted to shake everything up; that’s why they voted for the lying bully. Dems need someone with solid progressive values who is willing to also shake things up.
glenn

3 hours ago
But don’t you think Trump will be easier to beat than Pence? By 2020, Mueller’s report will be out, America will be even more exhausted of Trump’s lies and sabotages of the country. Hard to see how Trump could get more than 40% in 2020.
AdLib 3 hours ago
Don’t apologize, I say fuck yeah! To your post! You nailed it!
AdLib 3 hours ago
Personally, I’m tired of old, white men. You know, I was thinking the other day. How many years have we been arguing about the same things? Immigration, Social Security, abortion, etc. Let’s go at these problems with a new perspective.
glenn

3 hours ago
That’s why I’m open to sticking my neck out to put young Beto among my faves, along with 2 women, Elizabeth and Amy.
AdLib 3 hours ago
Actually, no, I think Pence would be easier to beat than the lying bully. Pence doesn’t have the cult following that the LB does.
glenn

3 hours ago
I’m with you on your picks. Being as that you’re from CA, you’re not a fan of Harris, then?
glenn

3 hours ago
Exactly! This is also why, even though AOC has annoyed me a little here and there, I really like her and what she represents. Old men are used to approaching things in the same systematic way they’ve seen things done…and in DC, that isn’t working.
AdLib 3 hours ago
Hmm…maybe you’re right about Pence. He’s a cold fish too, no human warmth.
AdLib 2 hours ago
Ahh, but he loves his mother!
glenn

2 hours ago
I have a friend who is an assitant DA in LA and she really dislikes Harris. Then there’s Choicelady who’s very familiar with her and says she’s not how she appears.
AdLib 2 hours ago
The ironic thing about AOC’s tax proposal is that it should be just what conservatives love. After all, it harkens back to the “good ole days”.
glenn

2 hours ago
“Mother” is what he calls his wife!
AdLib 2 hours ago
Then, I trust yours and Choice Lady’s judgment about Harris.
glenn

2 hours ago
Yes, I know that’s what Pence calls his wife–that’s why I said it.
glenn

2 hours ago
What kind of bothered me about Harris is that over the past 2 years, following her on Twitter, she ignored many of the current issues to make “safe” political statements that seemed obvious in positioning herself for running in 2020. I don’t fully trust she is who she represents herself to be.
AdLib 2 hours ago
And Harris has a segment of Dems who call her a “cop”, who see her as being too close to cops and not protecting or standing with victims of police abuse…as happened while she was AG in CA.
AdLib 2 hours ago
Since I never heard of her until recently, I can only go on what she’s said recently. However, I did read about her early days in politics, where many conservatives, and even some Dems, accused of her of “sleeping her way to the top.” While I hate accusations of that kind, it certainly would be an albatross around her neck, just like all of the baggage that Hillary carried.
glenn

2 hours ago
She’s not a bad person or candidate, I think she’s been brilliant in every hearing I’ve seen her. I just don’t know that she would be a real champion for the people as Beto, Elizabeth or Amy could be.
AdLib 2 hours ago
Yes, saw that “too much of a prosecutor” accusation, too. As I say, it looks like she has way too much baggage, and it’s hard to say what kind of campaign she would run. I just hope the Dem primaries are not so cut-throat that when we end up with a candidate, we end up with a divided party.
glenn

2 hours ago
Those kinds of attacks I ignore, ones that are so misogynist. I’m fine with toughly criticizing candidates who are women, no differently than I would with men but when I see claims like that, they seem so sexist.
AdLib 2 hours ago
The thing I liked most about her in seeing her in hearings was her calm and precise manner. She was very careful how she worded her questions, and showed a calm demeanor.
glenn

2 hours ago
I agree. I don’t think we should give any credence to those kinds of attacks, but then again, I’m not a right wing nut!
glenn

2 hours ago
Good point and one I’ve seen others making (even Harris supporters!). We should be honest and really get to know and criticize any Dem candidates but the focus should be on promoting the ones we prefer and not trying to trash the ones we don’t. I won’t tolerate Dems trying to savage other Dem candidates just to make way for their fave.
AdLib 2 hours ago
I’m just saying that the right wing would run with those kind of attacks, and of course, so would the media!
glenn

2 hours ago
True but those kinds of attacks can boomerang too and hurt the RWs and Repubs. Rallying the women’s vote even more so for the Dem.
AdLib 2 hours ago
That’s why I have a real fondness for Beto. He managed to run his campaign with HIS message without attacking cruz. IMO, if you’re attacking an opponent by stating the opponent’s policy, then you’re only giving their policy amplification. It’s YOUR policy you should be giving amplification, not your opponent’s.
glenn

2 hours ago
I can’t wait for whoever the nom is to debate Trump (or Pence). By 2020, many economists think we may be in a softer economy or even recession. Without the economy, what does Trump or Pence have to run on? A massively growing deficit? A divided and hostile country? Greater poverty and less people with health insurance? A wall?
AdLib 2 hours ago
You make a great point. If Beto could run against someone as disgusting and dishonest as Ted Cruz and stay positive, he can do the same against Trump.
AdLib 2 hours ago
So, it comes that time again, Ad, when I say good night. Always enjoy chatting with you and gaining insights. Yup, it’s going to be an interesting campaign and it will probably begin much sooner than we want. Good night, Ad. Take care, and have a good weekend.
glenn

2 hours ago
Remember when we were discussing Beto here and agreed that whether Beto wins or loses against Cruz, it can be a win because he can run against Trump? Well…we’re so smart!
AdLib 2 hours ago
Same here glenn, alway a wonderful time chatting with you and the gang! Have a great weekend!
AdLib 2 hours ago
Damned if we ain’t! Smart, that is! See you next week with my smart self!
glenn

2 hours ago
Right Smarty!
AdLib 2 hours ago
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