Vox Populi – 01-18-2019

Vox Populi, our weekly live chat about the week’s events begins tonight at 7:00pm PST. Hope to see you then!

AdLib 4 hours ago

Hey JJ!

AdLib 3 hours ago

How are things?

AdLib 3 hours ago

At least you don’t have FBI investigations into you. I hope…

AdLib 3 hours ago

The rest of the gang will start coming by in 30 minutes or so, they’ll be happy to see you here.

AdLib 2 hours ago

That storm is going to be especially bad in the very Northeast from the map I saw. I think it is going to get a lot worse for government workers before the shutdown ends.

AdLib 2 hours ago

I watch it with my daughter!

AdLib 2 hours ago

Yep, I think the recent season was even better. She enjoyed the Wonder Woman movie too (so did I).

AdLib 2 hours ago

It’s kind of cool that the WW movie, which couldn’t get made for decades because execs insisted there wasn’t an audience for an action movie starring a woman, was a better and more successful film than most of the others.

AdLib 2 hours ago

Can’t argue with success!

AdLib 2 hours ago

The sequel could be how she battles and defeats Trump.

AdLib 2 hours ago

She’d just need to lasso him with her Lasso of Truth and he’s implode.

AdLib 2 hours ago

Hey PPO!

AdLib 2 hours ago

Yes, Machete should lure Trump to inspect the border then spring his trap!

AdLib 2 hours ago

Hamberders are a dish best served cold. Along with cold fries.

AdLib 2 hours ago

You mean Trump?

AdLib 2 hours ago

Isn’t Cold Grease the Secret Service name for Don Jr.?

AdLib 2 hours ago

PPO – When is he supposed to speak…aka…”ooze”?

AdLib 2 hours ago

I’m all for Machete! Maybe he could give the response to Trump’s speech? With his fists!

AdLib 2 hours ago

How many people are watching the news on Saturday afternoon?

AdLib 2 hours ago

What do you think he’ll BS about?

AdLib 2 hours ago

Declare an emergency?

AdLib 2 hours ago

Trump and the GOP are taking a beating in public opinion. Many top Repubs have been urging Trump to declare an emergency, not because they think it is one or it will get his wall built but to take it off the table so government can re-open.

AdLib 2 hours ago

Which would have put her and others lives at risk including our military in Afghanistan.

AdLib 2 hours ago

And Nancy Pelosi will have all kinds of things she can do to return the favor to Trump. Including beginning impeachment.

AdLib 2 hours ago

PPO – Now that Trump has publicly announced what should have been secret, it’s probably not safe to go out there until a bit of time has passed.

AdLib 2 hours ago

The Taliban would be smart to stay alert in this period because she might go, not worth the risk.

AdLib 2 hours ago

Yep, let me check..

AdLib 2 hours ago

glenn!!!

AdLib 2 hours ago

glenn – Was there a problem signing in?

AdLib 2 hours ago

Oh! The workaround is to close the Vox window, login as usual on The Planet then open the Vox window.

AdLib 2 hours ago

Murph is in MO.

AdLib 2 hours ago

Guest 747, read my note just above about logging in.

AdLib 2 hours ago

I see your name glenn, and posts.

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PPO – It’s fun to imagine but Repubs in The Senate would keep a traitor in the WH than have Pelosi as President.

AdLib 2 hours ago

Do we think The House will start impeachment hearings?

AdLib 2 hours ago

B-movie is far too generous.

AdLib 2 hours ago

FD!

AdLib 2 hours ago

Hey Murph!

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glenn – I’m not sure, some are saying it was Mueller’s way of making it clear the leak didn’t come from him or his people.

AdLib 2 hours ago

I agree glenn, it should be a top priority for House Dems now to investigate if Trump told Cohen to lie to Congress. And from that, impeachment may result.

AdLib 2 hours ago

Yes, something weird was going on with our server I think, seems to have settled down now. Sorry Murph, glenn and FD!

AdLib an hour ago

The BuzzFeed editor and the journalists who wrote the article say their Fed sources aren’t backing down from their assertions. Maybe this came from SDNY?

AdLib an hour ago

Oh, glad all was cool when you logged in FD!

AdLib an hour ago

Whoops! We lost Murph!

AdLib an hour ago

Yes, the SDNY did question Cohen but he would not agree to flip for them.

AdLib an hour ago

FD – I do think all of this will snowball and crush Trump. Especially if such an indisputable crime as telling your lawyer to lie to Congress is proven.

AdLib an hour ago

Did you see that photo of him with a bandage on the back of his hand? Looked like someone who had an IV. I wonder what his health and chemical intake is like now with everything coming at him.

AdLib an hour ago

And how sweet is it to see the narcissist have the SOTU taken away from him…by a woman!

AdLib an hour ago

FD – I think the Repubs in The Senate will only turn on Trump if it looks like he’s going to be proven to be the traitor and criminal he is. Otherwise, they won’t do a thing. They voted to remove sanctions on Russia! Without getting anything in return from Russia like stopping their attacks on our elections! They are all traitors.

AdLib an hour ago

glenn – Which is why we don’t need Bloomberg or Schultz running for the office, no more billionaires, ever!

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PPO – Yes, the SDNY has Trump nailed as a conspirator in the hush money payoffs. But will they indict? Not before Mueller, I think and not if Barr is AG.

AdLib an hour ago

Welcome back Murph! Sorry about the issues!

AdLib an hour ago

Wil check everything out with the server.

AdLib an hour ago

glenn – I’m willing to bet that there is corroborating evidence of Trump telling Cohen to lie to Congress. And what about Don Jr. lying to Congress? And Trump making up the lie of “adoption” to cover up the Trump Tower meeting? There’s a lot of phone records and other data like texts that could support this.

AdLib an hour ago

McConnell’s approval numbers are in the 20s! He is very disliked in KY. 2020 could be the year Dems take back The Senate and kick McConnell to the curb.

AdLib an hour ago

Murph – As long as he and others in the miitary finally realize what a fraud Trump is, they’re welcome into the tent!

AdLib an hour ago

For Trump, it is the beginning of the end of the beginning!

AdLib an hour ago

FD – Ryan saw the writing on the wall, that he would lose the gavel and he didn’t want to fight in an election he could lose anyway, to be demoted. Little selfish coward Ryan, the worst Speaker in our lifetimes.

AdLib an hour ago

Murph – Yes, saw that Atlantic article and I agree. Dems sound a little too skittish about impeachment but the process is important to begin, they can always determine at the end of the process that they vote against impeaching if the evidence isn’t there…but it will be.

AdLib an hour ago

PPO – No one has to yell about KY being the most dependent on Fed jobs, they are getting hit badly de facto and if they’re not turning on Mitch, they’re ignorant Trump cultists. I think they are turning on him though.

AdLib an hour ago

glenn – Either way, it helps elect a Dem. Whether disillusioned Trump voters voote Dem or just don’t vote for Trump, Dems win.

AdLib an hour ago

Murh – Saw Kaine do that and I do hope he and other Dems keep doing so. Especially when McConnell isn’t there to block them!

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Murph – Maybe KY is too corrupted for a Dem to win but Dems won in AL and KS. Trump is that toxic and McConnell may be on the ropes this time.

AdLib an hour ago

FD – Yep, poor Ryan, didn’t get to destroy the poor and elderly. He’s still going to Hell.

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Murph – Trump is so ignorant, he seems to have thought that real people wouldn’t be hurt by a shutdown, just Dems in DC.

AdLib an hour ago

glenn – I think Ryan may be the worst because even though he was disgusting, Gingrich did accomplish a lot and pushed Clinton to doing some of the things he wanted. He self-destructed with the shutdown (ironically) but Ryan proved a faiure in most every way, including getting the tax bill passed that for the first time in US history, made the public more upset than pleased.

AdLib an hour ago

Seeya PPO!

AdLib an hour ago

Food stamps/SNAP will run out between Feb and March. Then Trump’s ppoor, rural voters will turn on him.

AdLib an hour ago

PPO – So Trump may dangle DACA agreement to bribe Dems to fund his wall? Let’s not forget that it was Trump who also tried to kill DACA to use them as hostages for what he wanted. Trump isn’t giving Dems anything by just reversing another attack he made last year.

AdLib an hour ago

glenn – What makes more sense to me though is that disillusioned voters aren’t motivated to vote. Trump has only reduced his own support, not built onto it.

AdLib an hour ago

glenn – The Dems better not give in because Trump dangles DACA over their heads. The Dems are winning on this and right now, DACA is safe. You don’t give away something for potentially nothing. Trump’s wall is a monument to him and racism. As Pelosi said, it is immoral and nothing should be accepted as barter for that.

AdLib an hour ago

glenn – Ryan’s career is over, he left with Obamacare in place and helped cause the longest gov shutdown in US history. He’s toast.

AdLib an hour ago

glenn – Have to disagree, the GOP has been shrinking in people who identify themselves as being a part of it. The extremists are left, like the dregs they are, and while the percentage of Repub percent is high, it’s because so many reasonable people have left the GOP that the 30% or so Trump Cultists represent maybe 90% of the GOP. The numbers for Trump have shrunk. Look at the 2018 elections, all the swing states that put Trump in the WH went blue statewide.

AdLib 42 minutes ago

You stay warm too, glenn! Have a great weekend!

AdLib 42 minutes ago

See you next week, FD!

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Murph – We’d pass out holding our breaths for Trump voters to turn on him, even as their lives are being hammered by him. They are strong Trump supporters because they are ignorant. So they can’t recognize they’ve been conned. We need to fix the country without them.

AdLib 40 minutes ago

I think the BuzzFeed story may be legit, maybe Mueller wanted to set down a marker that he and his people didn’t leak?

AdLib 39 minutes ago

The Feds who were the sources for BuzzFeed are standing firm that what they said is 100% true.

AdLib 39 minutes ago

Usually, when big stories like this are disputed by someone high profile, the story is withdrawn and apologies are made. I have to think that the BF editor, who says he stands behind the story, has more info that proves it.

AdLib 37 minutes ago

What do you think about the story?

AdLib 37 minutes ago

Yes, the BF editor was on MSNBC earlier and said that the Feds were solidly behind the story even so.

AdLib 36 minutes ago

I heard that report, having Cohen turn on Trump then having the National Enquirer and the Trump Org’s CFO turn on Trump, I have to think they are brimming with evidence against Trump.

AdLib 34 minutes ago

Barr is a great liar. He is a phony and IMO, he will prove to be Trump’s ally and an adversary to justice against Trump. What do you think?

AdLib 34 minutes ago

Yes. SOmetimes, you have to look at the opposite of a story to affirm how much sense it makes. Would Cohen and Don Jr. lie to Congress similarly with no coordination with each other or Trump? That is far harder to buy than Trump telling Cohen, his employee, to lie so as to hide that Trump was dealing with Russia on the Moscow hotel while he was lying to the country about it.

AdLib 31 minutes ago

Yes and that’s why I’m frustrated but not surprised that Repubs continue to follow Lemming Trump over the cliff. They have to know the end is coming but they’re too scared of his wrath to even save themselves…or nearly. When they see the GOP’s numbers tanking along with Trump’s, then the cowards might finally stab him in the back.

AdLib 30 minutes ago

I don’t know, Barr is a smug elitist who thinks he’s smarter than evryone else. He has the hubris to defend Trump even in the worst of situations. But…we can only hope his ego about how history will remember him may work against Trump.

AdLib 28 minutes ago

No, I didn’t know that it was…The Manhattan Project! And it’s going to blow up Trump in the end!

AdLib 26 minutes ago

I suppose though that taking all the blows he has from Trump, Mueller doesn’t want anyone thinking he hasn’t been wholly professional as IC.

AdLib 25 minutes ago

That’s good to hear, one would hope that seeing how far the pendulum has swung, it has to finally swing back in a sane direction.

AdLib 24 minutes ago

The reason Trump was so careless about committing all the crimes he has is that he was confident he could just lie and get away with everything as he always has. Is Barr aware enough, outside of the bubble of his own self-importance, to realize that he can’t control what happens if he assists Trump? One would hope but I didn’t see an enlightened guy in those hearings. He still believes that mass incarceration was right, he isn’t the most evolved guy.

AdLib 22 minutes ago

What gets me too is tht Trump can’t or won’t see how subserviant he is to Putin. Someone with Trump’s ego, being seen as his lapdog? Men with a spine wouldn’t go along with that.

AdLib 21 minutes ago

True, I think Mueller released that statement to protect his own rep. Why would he care if an article said Trump subourned perjury? Plenty of false claims out there he never responded to. Nope, this cut close which to me, means it had a lot of truth and that’s why Mueller felt he had to say something.

AdLib 19 minutes ago

As for Brexit, hopefully all of this madness will lead them to take a new vote. It would lose now.

AdLib 18 minutes ago

Not many other solutions at this point. I heard a hard Brexit could shave 10% or more off of the UK’s GDP.

AdLib 17 minutes ago

Yep, Barr was such a manipulative ass, the way he campaigned for AG, I don’t trust him as far as I could throw him.

AdLib 16 minutes ago

There will be an uprising of pro-Brexit nutters, like Trump Cultists would flood the streets if he was impeached. The extremists will try to sabotage countries taking the right path.

AdLib 15 minutes ago

That would be an even bigger blow to the UK. I’ve heard that the only 3 choices are a hard Brexit, a new referendum or a new election.

AdLib 14 minutes ago

Right, get some rest, pal!

AdLib 13 minutes ago