Vox Populi – 05-11-2018

Hi all – be sure to say “howdy” – or anything else that comes to mind – when you check in. See you in a few!

choicelady

Hello! I’m still awake. yay!

Harleigh

Harleigh! Hooray! Glad you’re still up and ready to chat. How are you?

choicelady

Hey glenn! How are you?

choicelady

Hey CL, I’m just peachy; how are you?

glenn

Harleigh–Yay! Good to “see” you.

glenn

Doing OK. How is beautiful not so downtown GA?

choicelady

Good to ‘see’ you, too.

choicelady

Hangin in and LMAO at the circus. Bot they are breaking shit as fast as they can.

Harleigh

CL–Right now GA is just beautiful. Sunny, temps in the 70’s and 80’s. Just the way I like it!

glenn

mid 70 – 80 here

Harleigh

Good for both of you. CA is windy here – VERY windy – but promising 70s and low 80s, too. How is it where you are, Harleigh? Having a good place to be is the first step in fighting back against the crazy.

choicelady

Harleigh–Yup. Now, finally, I think we’re getting to the “meat”. It’s always follow the money, and it seems Mueller and the NYAG are hot on the trail of the money!

glenn

Harleigh-Hope that weather holds up. I’ll be in Fl in two weeks to see my great grandson! Can’t wait!

glenn

glenn – what is so stunning about the scandal in NY is that the NYAG office never missed a beat. They announced almost immediately they were keeping on keeping on.

choicelady

CL–Ain’t it grand? Love that keepin’ on!

glenn

Did either of you see the mumble that #45 is asking about “how to resign”? Just a mumble, not even a rumor, but one lives in hope…

choicelady

CL–I’m assuming you’re talking about the Schneidermann scandal. What a putz!

glenn

I turned blue from Suckabee sayin a 600K payment was proof he didn’t take bribes!! BWAHAHAHA

Harleigh

glenn – I decided with Franken (his accusers have vanished) that we should demand full investigations because this MIGHT be a Russian “honey trap” with Schneiderman. It may be true – but it is suspicious since two of the women were in toche with Cohen (is that Trump’s guy – can’t keep names straight).

choicelady

CL–Didn’t see anything about the person occupying the oval office asking about resignation. I don’t want to see him resign (although then there wouldn’t be any question about indicting him), I don’t want to see him impeached; I want to see him indicted, arrested, convicted, and LOCKED UP!

glenn

glenn – you’re nicer than I. I wish to revive drawing and quartering. Just for starters.

choicelady

Harleigh – Ms. Sanders can lie like a rug, can’t she?

choicelady

CL–well there’s that, too. We could also bring back tarring and feathering. Nothing better for a coward than a few feathers!

glenn

I have not seen or heard of him leaving….. yet. He avoids a YUGE blast of crap doing that.

Harleigh

glenn – ohhhh I like that! Less blood, more humiliation.

choicelady

Harleigh – I think he does NOT avoid legal action by resigning. He just avoides impeachment which is not all that certain.

choicelady

Remember when Palin was the dumbest one on the tube with clame?? aahh good times. LOL

Harleigh

Harleigh–WTH is wrong with these people? Talk about gaslighting. Paying someone $600,000 is not a bribe; it’s proof it’s not that. Huh?

glenn

Harleigh – you wouldn’t think there was a new, lower ‘bottom” would you? We have it.

choicelady

Hi PPO – great to ‘see’ you1

choicelady

Hi all!

pinkpantheroz

That was “You!!”

choicelady

Hey PPO–How goes it?

glenn

PPO – how are things down under?

choicelady

Not bad, glenn. Can hardly comprehend where things stand in the WH. Nice prison duds for Sarah!

pinkpantheroz

These fuckers have a sub basement. It gets public so fast. NY charges go to trial under state laws.

Harleigh

PPO – I noticed. She wears black and white stripes well, so she’s prepared.

choicelady

CL–Just as the person occupying the oval office defines fake news as news he doesn’t like, we have to quit defining what the bottom is in this administration, because every time we think they have reached it, they redefine it.

glenn

hey PPO

Harleigh

Harleigh = we count on NY.

choicelady

glenn – so true!

choicelady

Hi Harleigh! I substitute Bad for Fake and prefer it that way. Bad for Trump, I mean

pinkpantheroz

PPO – we saw there was a horrible mass shooting there. Any info? It was sickening to see our violence coming your way.

choicelady

PPO–This administration does make one’s head spin,doesn’t it? I’m still trying to figure out how sarah looks herself in the mirror every day. I don’t think there will be prison stripes for her; she’s just guilty of lying, and unfortunately, that’s not a crime.

glenn

From what I have read here and there that NY has pretty much the same laws or statutes as the feds charges.

Harleigh

glenn – I think that’s accurate. Dislike her tho I do, it’s not illegla.

choicelady

Murder/Suicide on a remote farm in Western Australia. No terrorism or outside people. Man, wife and kids. sad

pinkpantheroz

Harleigh- yes, that’s accurate. And Trump can’t self pardon on STATE laws.

choicelady

VERY sad, PPO. I’m so sorry this happened and hope it doesn’t spawn more as it seems to here.

choicelady

Harleigh–that’s how I understand it too, regarding the charges. It would be great if the person occupying the oval office would resign, but I don’t think that’s ever going to happen. We have to be positive and get out the vote and get him out of office!

glenn

glenn and all – I’m seeing well informed people start to turn their focus on Pence and his role in the treachery. That makes me happy.

choicelady

cool cl

Harleigh

PPO–Yeah, I read about that. What a shame. Any info on the “why”?

glenn

Hopefully, no copycats. BRB

pinkpantheroz

CL–Yes, there seems to be a focus on pence, lately. You know, pence truly is a mother-fucker. He calls his wife “mother”, and presumably he fucks her, so he’s a mother-fucker by definition.

glenn

PPO I hate to say this but only 4 – 5 victums doesn’t make the news sometimes. that’s disgusting.

Harleigh

glenn – !!!! Too funny! Can a president exist when he forbids himself to be alone in a room with any woman other than “Mother”? Seems highly dubious an operation.

choicelady

Pardon my graphic language in my last post, but it only works with the whole word.

glenn

hee hee

Harleigh

Harligh – I think all/most shootings are now getting noticed. The Parkland kids are partly responsible for the heightened awareness.

choicelady

glenn – you’re simply calling it as it is!

choicelady

CL–I guess “mother” will have to be by his side in cabinet meetings, meetings with Angela Merkel, etc.

glenn

glenn – that does worry me. Mother is totally unqualified.

choicelady

When a president needs a chaperone, yikes!

choicelady

I’m 20 miles from Parkland. They are doing great! But the NRA is striking back with fucking Ollie North as pres. bwahaha these folks are fucking whackdoodle to the bone. seriously.

Harleigh

CL–well the person occupying the oval office has set the standard for unqualified people to be present where they shouldn’t be. Look at Ivanka and Jared. So, what difference is it if “mother” is in the room?

glenn

Harleigh – I think picking Ollie was a HUGE mistake for them. He’s rather intensely disliked.

choicelady

HAve you been disgussing the disgusting McCain slurs?

pinkpantheroz

glen – Mother is even LESS qualified! But her role as “duena” is creepy.

choicelady

PPO – not yet. HAve at it!

choicelady

Harleigh–there’s a Dem candidate for the Senate in New Mexico who has an ad out that literally says, “Fuck the NRA”.

glenn

NRA pres convicted of gunrunning to Iran for funding Contra Terrorists. Yep, goo job fit!

pinkpantheroz

glenn – I saw that!!! Wonder how it will play in NM?

choicelady

CL–Please! Being intensely disliked, especially by liberals, is a qualification for republicans, not a mistake. IOW, it’s a feature, not a bug.

glenn

All – will the slurs against McCain create problems for #45?

choicelady

cl, is that bitch still at the WH? Says it all, really, doesn’t it?

pinkpantheroz

glenn – I meant he’s disliked by veterans. We don’t bother with how he’s viewed by liberals!

choicelady

CL–I’ll tell you what. If I were a Dem rep or Senator, I wouldn’t eat any of “mother’s” cooking!

glenn

PPO – yes, she went back to her work: aiding veterans. Let’s see how well THAT flies.

choicelady

glenn!!! So true!!!

choicelady

Think about if the 4 of us got really drunk and stoned together and tried to make up this shit! ‘Mclame is going to die anyway so what’s the difference?’ WH staffer. hahaha

Harleigh

glenn, lots of bromide in it!

pinkpantheroz

CL–I hope it plays well,but we’ll have to see.

glenn

HArleigh – it”s shocking what they get away with.

choicelady

VoteVets and other pro vet groups are NOT happy with her or the W defense of her.

choicelady

cl, that’s the biggest problem of all. They ARE getting away with it. They snowball so much shit downhill we can’t react quickly enough

pinkpantheroz

PPO – very true.

choicelady

CL–Create problems for 45? Fuck no! Already his supporters are out in force on fox calling him “songbird John”. What evil, horrible, disgusting pigs these so-called people are!

glenn

We must keep remembering that this today is NOT normal, and will get better soon, DV

pinkpantheroz

Anyone notice that since #45’s vacation to golf he’s had zero public events ever since? What does he DO all day?

choicelady

Okay, no more apologies–fuck seems to be my word of the night.

glenn

glenn – you’re among friends. No problem.

choicelady

Spread the word!

pinkpantheroz

LOL!!! We seem to be doing our best, PPO!

choicelady

pinkpantheroz

PPO–That’s the truth. We can’t react quickly enough, and the deafening silence of the Dems in Congress doesn’t help.

glenn

We need to play with trump’s head. Like, if hedoes finally have a military parade, remind him of all those guns and President Sadat!

pinkpantheroz

He’s plugging all the lifetime appointment courts with rwnj totally unimpeded it seems.

Harleigh

So, I think I missed something between CL and PPO. Who are we talking about being “that bitch” who is still working with vets? Mother?

glenn

glenn – on twitter I see HUGE Dem pushback. The problem is what happened w Obama – they hold press conferenes, send out press releases, MSM ignores them. They can’t book themselves on shows – that’s by invite – and they don’t get heard. What strong stuff I see on Twitter lives there ONLY.

choicelady

glenn – the woman who made the ‘joke’ about McCain dying so who cares what he thinks.

choicelady

Harleigh–that’s what scares me the most. The repubs are pretty sure their time is almost up, so they’re packing the courts as quickly as they can, in addition to gutting the Consumer’s Protection Bureau, gutting the EPA, and definitely gutting every civil rights law they can! IMO, that’s the biggest danger this administration poses. While our “esteemed” press and pundits are wringing their hands over trump’s tweets, and his staffers vile statements, our government is being stripped of anything that will help middle-class Americans.

glenn

glenn, sorry, I forgot that cow’s name who trashed Sen. McCain. I have no time for the man, but no one desrves to be dismissed in such a cavalier, cruel way.

pinkpantheroz

CL–I thought she was a communications director. She works with vets? OMG!

glenn

glenn – we can survive almost anything but court appointments. I want the Senate if only to block those.

choicelady

Well Spanky is now setting up to attack Iraq with the same playbook in Iran. These suckers in the service are not ready to face a real enemy.

Harleigh

glenn – that’s her assigned task: vets.

choicelady

HArleigh – yup.

choicelady

CL–I agree. I don’t think we’re going to get the Senate, though. And, although Ad keeps telling me Dems are going to take back the house, I have my doubts about that too. There are too many people who will pull the “R” lever blindly.

glenn

H, Iran, not Iraq?

pinkpantheroz

glenn – I’d agree if we hadn’t won 40 out of 44 races, MANY in areas where Trump won handily. Something is changing for the better, and I think we will take back both. We cannot have ‘purity voting’ though. We need ANY Dem no matter who, because you cannot hold Dems to account unless they’re IN office, and we need the numbers.

choicelady

CL–Then her statement is even more vile and viscous. What in the hell is wrong with these people? Did you see where Santorum was on CNN saying that he found it equally reprehensible that someone (or many ones) would leak that statement. UGH!

glenn

They are using the Iraq playbook to attack Iran. lol sorry

Harleigh

glenn – that’s the GOP mantra: it’s not the deed of the person doing or saying something, it’s the ‘leak’. Fewer and fewer people are buying that shit.

choicelady

HArleigh, I don’t believe the Iranians are as good as, or better than US troops. Our weakness is still better than their strengths. Iran may be better Russian equipped than other ME countries, but airpower is dominant.

pinkpantheroz

Harleigh–Yup. But dontcha know, the person occupying the oval office should get the Nobel Peace Prize because he is talking to Kim. Up is down, wrong is right; just another day in this administration.

glenn

glenn – never thought the day would come when New Speak would be a real thing in America.

choicelady

CL–Right. How dare those leakers want to get the truth out to the American public?

glenn

glenn, there is a recurring tweet that says in effect that not one GOP spokesperson can lecture anyone on morality, family values or honesty. I agree!

pinkpantheroz

glenn – exactly. No matter how bad the behavior of the incumbents, it’s the leak that must be prosecuted.

choicelady

All true PPO. and still we have not won a war since 1945. LOL Rugged terain and large well equipped military.

Harleigh

Harleigh, a couple of draws!

pinkpantheroz

To my mind the biggest barrier to reclaiming democracy are the media. I think we need boycotts and demonstrations almost daily to regain a decent press and TV. Not talking about Alex Jones but ABC, CBS, NBC etc. and especially the NY Times.

choicelady

LOL that’s what Nixon did in NAM… declare victory then run like hell.

Harleigh

I Mission Accomplised!

pinkpantheroz

Harleigh – and that worked not at all. But if it gets our folks out of harm’s way, fine.

choicelady

PPO–I agree with you on the Iranians’ capabilities. I have to tell you all a little story from when we lived in Iran. It was the middle of winter; and it was freakin’ cold out. One morning, my husband went to work at the air base and watched some Iranians light a fire under the oil pan of the jet fuel truck so they could warm it up so it would start. True story! Now, that was almost thirty years ago, but I don’t think the average Iranian’s (or at least the ones who are in the service)

glenn

cl, true, but they aren’t in any rush to reform. Trumps antics are pure gold for all of them. Complicit

pinkpantheroz

knowledge of the way technology works has advanced so much.

glenn

PPO – yes. Complicit.

choicelady

glenn – I’d imagine with the harsh conditions over the years, Iranian tech has REGRESSED.

choicelady

PPO–I agree. I don’t want ever want to hear a repub lecture me on anything!

glenn

glenn, they won’t have been idle, but Sharia law doesn’t cover Tech manuals, Insh’ Allah!

pinkpantheroz

PPO – LOL!!

choicelady

CL–I agree, the press helped to make this mess, and are making it worse. I never see what Dems have to say, only repubs.

glenn

I try to read Kos and mediamatters. MSM is gone with their newsrooms especially print media.

Harleigh

It is such a condemnation of news coverage that Late night hosts have the most credibility

pinkpantheroz

glenn – that’s my anger. I got so many press releases from the Obama admin that NEVER saw the light of day in media it made me furious.

choicelady

PPO–Right! Women used to walk out in front of traffic with their sons/kids on the traffic side, because Sharia law says if you hurt someone’s child (especially sons), you are responsible for that family. Logic. I used to take Farsi lessons and I asked my instructor one day what the Farsi word for “logic” is and he said there really isn’t a direct translation in Farsi of that word.

glenn

Sacramento Bee has laid off 20 reporters. It’s a tissue paper rag now.

choicelady

Faux comdeming MSM as fake news is fucking hysterical. Kinda like their commie-nazi slurs.!

Harleigh

Harleigh – we’re dealing with a ‘nation of dunces’ and a ‘parliament of whores’ in this admin. And I’m NOT saying that about Stormy who isn’t a whore at all.

choicelady

Harleigh–I like KOS, especially for their coverage of the different states’ races for governor, senate, and congress. They do a great job of covering that. But, even the liberal online sites print mostly trump/republican statements, mostly for the “shock” value. I hardly ever read any Dem responses, or if they do cover them, they’re buried halfway down the page.

glenn

glenn, I wonder, with that mentality (only fot the plebs?) how Iran could have progressed to being anywhere close to nuclear capability. YEs their missiles work, sort of.. but a real live nuke? I’m starting to doubt it, like Iraq with their WMD

pinkpantheroz

CL–I know. As the person occupying the oval office says, he sells papers.

glenn

glenn – that’s a real problem. We have very powerful Dem pushback – it never gets seen or heard.

choicelady

CL it is amazing. I read where something like 20% of repubeliekkklan people in a survey still think Obama is from somewheres over in Afreeka!

Harleigh

PPO – all the 400 inspectors say Iran has NO nukes. They are in compliance, and yet they are being targeted by #45 as if they lied. I think France, UK, Germany will be powerful voices AGAINST ‘reprisals” on Iran because they want to uphold the agreement.

choicelady

Harleigh – 20% of GOP think the world is flat. That, DESPITE the clear evidence that IF IT WERE, by now cats would have shoved everything IN the world over the edge. You can’t refute that clear scientific principle. Cats.

choicelady

PPO–I’ve often wondered that, too. However, they seem to be able to “rise to the occasion” when needed. The educated, those who are probably developing the nukes, are certainly more than capable, IMO. It’s just when it gets down to the plebes, as you say, that there may be a problem. However, I don’t know which is worse–the capable handling of nukes, or the inept handling nukes! Either way, it’s a disaster for any other country, I think.

glenn

…inept handling OF nukes…

glenn

PPO they don’t have nukes and or a facility that could perfom a breakout set of nukes.

Harleigh

Harleigh – the inspectors agree with you. All 400 of them.

choicelady

So true CL LOL

Harleigh

CL–Yup. It’s that “liberal press” again!

glenn

CL so did the inspectors in Iraq. Same thing again.

Harleigh

CL–cats rule the world!

glenn

Only two papers I now trust are the NYDN and WaPo. WaPo hired 60 new investigative reporters about a year ago. NYDN just tells good stuff.

choicelady

Well, if you and I can reach that conclusion, that there really is no reason to worry about Irannnuke-wise, why can’t the goons in the WH?

pinkpantheroz

glenn – see? The earth is round or cats would have emptied it.

choicelady

PPO – it’s like yellowcake and rods. Justification for war knows no boundaries of truth.

choicelady

cl, so my tunnel to china will just empty into space? Darn!

pinkpantheroz

Harleigh–it’s my understanding that the UN inspectors never said there were no WMD’s in Iraq; just that they couldn’t find any. According to the Iranian agreement, the inspectors are actually checking out the nuke sites. I could be misinformed,though.

glenn

Most of those going to war will come from Trumpland. That makes me ill.

choicelady

PPO – no – the world is round. Your tunnel is safe.

choicelady

BRB-

choicelady

PPO–LOL! The cats pushing the stuff over the edge of the world are smarter than the goons in the WH!

glenn

Phew, now I have to figure out the hot bit halfway down(or up)!

pinkpantheroz

There was no evidence of any WMD’S in Iraq. Only propaganda BS.

Harleigh

good one, glenn1

pinkpantheroz

PPO–Oh, that’s easy to figure out. Just ask a repub and go with the opposite answer of what s/he told you.

glenn

Harleigh–yeah, the “baby milk factories”.

glenn

glenn – well, of COURSE cats are smarter!

choicelady

CL–Hell, the quarter in my wallet is smarter than the goons in the WH!

glenn

glenn – never doubted the superiority of the quarter. Never!

choicelady

True, Harleigh. Saddam complied with the order to destroy after 1st war. but that was inconvenient to Dubya

pinkpantheroz

Harleigh–you’re right, but bush and cheney wanted that war.

glenn

Just as Bolton and Netanhayu want one with Iran.

glenn

glenn, new slogan for the WH: We’re smart as a quarter, and as subtle as a Panzer Division!

pinkpantheroz

and we didn’t get the oil. morons

Harleigh

PPO–Good one!

glenn

Harleigh – we didn’t get the oil, thanks to Obama who was NOT interested in Imperialism!

choicelady

Harleigh–which was the whole point of the war in the first place, wasn’t it?

glenn

glenn – yes I think it was. But Obama refused permanent occupation sites or taking Iraq’s oil. That was, IMHO, a very wise decision and why the GOP detest HIM and Hillary who concurred.

choicelady

Alright, friends, it’s time for me to call it a night. Good job, tonight, CL. Tell Ad we missed him, but we were in capable hands. Take care, everyone, and see you next week.

glenn

glenn, just like Trump fanatically hates Obama, Dubys hated Saddam for ‘insulting’ GHW’Bush. On such idiocies are wars started

pinkpantheroz

CL–Yes, President Obama is a very smart man, which is also why the gop detest him.

glenn

yep…. and they ‘borrowed’ from SS and medicare to pay for it… and it wasn’t enough…. on and on. I hate those fuckers.

Harleigh

glenn – it’s been grand to see you. Have a lovely weekend. I believe AL will be back next week. See you then I hope!

choicelady

PPO–Yup.

glenn

Good night, glenn!

choicelady

g’night, glenn. Sweet dreams

pinkpantheroz

G’night all.

glenn

nite CL

Harleigh

Are you leaving, Harleigh?

choicelady

well I’m not asleep yet…. I’ll hang in for a few.

Harleigh

Well, I gotta fly as well. ‘Er Indoors calls. Take care all till next week

pinkpantheroz

nite ppo

Harleigh

Good night, PPO – it’s been a good discussion with you. See you!!!

choicelady

byeee

pinkpantheroz

So what do you want to discuss? I’m not nearly as knowledgeable as you about things MidEast.

choicelady

If you’re done, we can finish up. No pressure!

choicelady

I wanna know…. or maybe not… who really thinks up all Spankys bullshit. He is not bright enough.

Harleigh

I honestly think he is just that impulsive. Word from AltWhiteHouse is that he is so demented he just works on momentary rage and the notion he IS that smart. I don’t think he listens to anyone but Ivanka.

choicelady

And SHE isn’t bright!

choicelady

He moved an embassy into jeruselum and couldn’t find it on a map.

Harleigh

LOL – OK he took THAT from the Religious Right. No, he didn’t dream that up himself.

choicelady

He has a 35 member prayer group. WTF LOL Reminds me of the old Hilter films we saw over and over in the 50’s from the 1930’s

Harleigh

Like W he is being successfully pressured into choices that uphold their “prophecies” on the End Times. Never downplay the role that had in Iraq – it was the “Fall of Babylon” they wanted. He’s far less aware of how they manipulate him.

choicelady

Yes – he is in the thrall of the MOST extremist Dominionists (they aren’t remotely Christian – Jesus is just the brand name.) He thinks he will get some kind of pass to heaven catering to them and their sheep.

choicelady

I think he has severe sundowners. Does 180 decisions constantly, cannot speak complete sentences, repeats everything 3 time….. he’s whacked as ba as rayguns 2nd term.

Harleigh

Totally agree. Some with better med knowledge have proposed he is suffering from untreated, now tertiary stage syphyllis. I’d not be surprised. I guess you can have it in youth without a lot of symptoms. But now? He may be in full meltdown. MANY of the world’s great tyrants, pre-antibiotics, were similarly afflicted.

choicelady

Well Pence would be even worse. He believes in his own BS. Calls his wife ‘mother’! Preferred religion decided by states? WTF??

Harleigh

I agree meaning I’m THRILLED new investigations about his role in the election are surfacing. Whether Mueller is looking, I don’t know, but I agree he’s actually MORE dangerous.

choicelady

I bet he is behind all this religious shit they are putting in while distracting with Kim and Iran.

Harleigh

I think the Religious Right are comfy w Pence and in control of Trump. They didn’t need Pence’s help – but he is Manafort’s choice as Veep, and he has ties to Russian religious conservatives, so…

choicelady

Well keep watchin, sadly that’s all we can do for now.

Harleigh

I think the RR is the untold part of the Russian story. Who launders cash better than they? Among many other issues.

choicelady

Yes – but watch like a HAWK!

choicelady

lol yep

Harleigh

well I’m startin to fade hon. See ya next week!

Harleigh

Great to see you, Harleigh – same time, same place next week. Have a lovely weekend!

choicelady

have a great wekend.

Harleigh

Good night!

choicelady

We will wrap for tonight. Come join us next week for more really good discussion AND a lot of laughs. It’s how we keep sane. Good night everyone!

choicelady