Vox Populi returns tonight! Hope to see you here at 7:00pm PST for a lively and live chat!
AdLib9 hours ago
A very Happy New year to all.
pinkpantheroz
2 hours ago
Hey PPO! Happy New Year to you!
AdLib2 hours ago
And Fergie!
AdLib2 hours ago
Ta very much!
pinkpantheroz
2 hours ago
Just listened to the classiest First Lady’s final speech. Wonderful.
pinkpantheroz
2 hours ago
I missed it, looking forward to hearing it.
AdLib2 hours ago
Did you have a nice holiday?
AdLib2 hours ago
Very quiet. Did a lot of skype calls to friends and family overseas. It is hard to get into the Christmas spirit when it is 100F, like today!
pinkpantheroz
2 hours ago
Wow! Not even near that in LA!
AdLib2 hours ago
Hey glenn!
pinkpantheroz
2 hours ago
Hi glenn!
AdLib2 hours ago
Hey PPO and Ad
glenn
2 hours ago
It’s snowing here in Ga, mixed with sleet! YUK!
glenn
2 hours ago
I see Trump is still denying that he was advantaged by the hacking ffrom Moscow. He is missing the point. Because he is so self-jusifying, he is ignoring the fact that Russia HACKED THE USA’ electoral system!
pinkpantheroz
2 hours ago
glenn, you need too vacation in Australia!
AdLib2 hours ago
I mught set up an AirBnB room for Planeteers visiting!
pinkpantheroz
2 hours ago
PPO–It’s funny you should say that about getting in the Christmas spirit when it’s warm outside. I was raised in NJ, and my husband was born and raised in FL. The first year we were married, he said, “I hope it’s warm for Christmas.” I looked at him as if he were crazy, but warm weather at Christmas was what he was used to, so that’s what he wanted. It’s all in your perspective!
glenn
2 hours ago
Ad–Yup–a vacation in Australia is just what I need!
glenn
2 hours ago
PPO–Let us know when you set up your AirBnB!
glenn
2 hours ago
PPO – I think Trump is losing the argument big time over Russia now.
AdLib2 hours ago
glenn, the Aussies are slowly changing the food they eat, from the stodge of Turkey, Ham and Christmas Pudding to seafood and salads.
pinkpantheroz
2 hours ago
PPO–much better food for the warm weather!
glenn
2 hours ago
took ’em long enough, like 200 years!
pinkpantheroz
2 hours ago
Better late than never, right?
glenn
2 hours ago
Ad, he’ll never admit it
pinkpantheroz
2 hours ago
I think turduckens may still be a bit popular in some parts of the US.
AdLib2 hours ago
the best stuffing for Turduckens IMO is a stick of gelignite and a lit fuse!
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
PPO – That’s my recipe for Trump cabinet nominees!
AdLiban hour ago
Ad–yeah. My son’s-in-law “go to” Christmas food is Italian….lasagna, meatballs, and eggplant parmesan–all homemade, of course.
glenn
an hour ago
Oooooh, with you on that one, Ad!
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
Ad–I like that recipe. Too bad the Dems are probably not going to use it.
glenn
an hour ago
grabbing a coffee – BRB
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
What’s up, peeps?
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
Hey Fuzzy!
glenn
an hour ago
How are ya glenn?
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
glenn – That sounds delicious! We have had beef dishes like steak and such that are a great alternative too.
AdLiban hour ago
Hey Fuzz!
AdLiban hour ago
Hey Ad.
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
Freezing. We are having snow and sleet tonight here.
glenn
an hour ago
How are you?
glenn
an hour ago
It’s about 2 degrees here in central Ohio.
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
Been raining a lot out here in LA but that’s very appreciated with the drought we’ve been having.
AdLiban hour ago
Yeah, I imagine rain is pretty welcome in your parts, Ad.
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
Fuzzy–Yeah, but it’s supposed to be that cold in Ohio. This is not right for GA, not mention too early in the year. We usually have these storms in Feb.
glenn
an hour ago
Ad–Glad to hear you’re having rain.
glenn
an hour ago
Our weather has been crazy. It will be in the low 50s for a few days, then drop to just single digits, then back to the 40s and 50s. Crazy.
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
glenn – That’s pretty crazy!
AdLiban hour ago
Back again. Hiya Fuzz!
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
Hey Pink! Mmmm, coffee sounds pretty good right now.
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
Ad–yeah, last week at this time, I was in FL where the temps were in the 60’s at night and 70’s and 80’s during the day! Glorious!
glenn
an hour ago
glenn, our overnight temp in Melbourne will be 80F!
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
I wonder what the weather will be like in ten years. I wouldn’t want to live in any coastal cities or towns.
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
PPO–I know that’s a little high; but I like warm weather!
glenn
an hour ago
Fuzzy, there is a report that a ginormous iceberg is about to separate from the Antarctic. I better get my Speedos out of the cupboard
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
Fuzzy–what are you talking about? There is no global warming–it’s snowing here in GA, and you’re having single-digit temps.
glenn
an hour ago
LOL!
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
glenn – The temp’s been like that out here in LA, pretty normal for how it used to be. I know it’s temporary but I like nostalgia.
AdLiban hour ago
Oh yeah glenn, I forgot. Silly me.
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
Ad–yeah, your weather is nice, too. Does the rain bring the temp down?
glenn
an hour ago
wow, a brand new year, eh? Oh yeah, Fuck 2016! Good riddance!
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
PPO–sorry to be so forgetful, but refresh my memory. Melbourne is right on the coast, right?
glenn
an hour ago
Are you near the water?
glenn
an hour ago
Fuzzy–Once the trumplethinskin is in office, we may be looking back at 2016 with fondness!
glenn
an hour ago
That’s a horrible thought.
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
Yes, glenn, down the southern coast, above Tasmania. Luckily, while Melbourne is flat mostly, I live on one of the few bumps about 150’AGL
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
Fuzzy-I know, but I’m not very optimistic about our new president.
glenn
an hour ago
glenn – Since it’s not humid out here, it always cools down at night anyway. The rain comes in mild and cold weather.
AdLiban hour ago
To say the least, glenn. I wonder how long it will be before Trump loses his mind. I think the job has far too much pressure and demand than Trump can handle.
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
well, glenn, we’re stuck with him for a while. Just hope someone on his team has more than one brain cell to keep him from destroying the planet.
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
anyone got some polonium? Oh, yes, his little Russian Mate.
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
Fuzzy–a friend of mine has a pool going on when trump is going to be impeached.
glenn
an hour ago
Ad, I spent about 2 months in the Mojave desert many years ago. 115 in the day and about 40 degrees at night. Takes some getting used to.
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
PPO–Not too many on his team with any brain cells, as far as I can see.
glenn
an hour ago
I think most of them are criminals.
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
Fuzzy–yeah, I lived in Iran in the 70’s and Saudi Arabia in the 8′
glenn
an hour ago
I see that the workforce in Trump Wash. are suing for being stiffed, yet again!
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
Wow, how’d that come about? Job?
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
oops–in Saudi Arabia in the 80’s. Quite a difference in temps between day and night in the desert.
glenn
an hour ago
My brother has been living in Oman for the last ten years. He has to stay for one more year. Job.
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
PPO–Yeah, and this time, we, the taxpayers are probably going to have to pay those contractors if they win the suit. The man is a walking disaster!
glenn
an hour ago
Wonder what will happen when he stops payment to White House Staff
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
BRB
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
Fuzzy–yeah, my husband’s job.
glenn
an hour ago
The GOP is already trying to reduce government workers pay to 1 dollar an hour. Some old rule from the mid 1880s. No kidding. How stupid can these cretins get?
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
PPO–Don’t know that he actually pays the staff. And, supposedly, he’s not going to take a paycheck, so don’t know how he’d pay them anyway. He’s raising money to pay his transition team. Good ole Kellyanne is out having fundraisers to get paid!
glenn
an hour ago
Fuzzy–it’s not stupid; it’s cruel and vindictive! From what I understand, if the workers don’t do work on what they want, then their pay is reduced.
glenn
an hour ago
I’d love to dropkick that woman off the Washington Monument!
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
The Trump Lemming Express has tracks leading right off a cliff but they are so tunnelvisioned that they are ready to go full steam ahead.
AdLiban hour ago
PPO–Now that would be a great fund raiser! I’d pay to see you do that!
glenn
an hour ago
I’d pay to do it!
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
PPO–LOL!
glenn
an hour ago
Did you see the poll Repub Marsha Blackburn put up on Twitter, thinking she’d confirm a majority would affirm killing the ACA but it went big time the other way? And the poll Kalima mentioned in a comment about most Trump voters wanting Dems to keep Trump in check. We’re loooking at the biggest case of buyer’s remorse about to take place.
AdLiban hour ago
The GOP still has nothing to replace the ACA with. Nothing good for the people anyway.
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
Ad–Yeah, I saw that. Those trump voters really are idiots. They made sure our government was majority republican, but they want the Dems to keep trump in check. How the hell do they think Dems are going to do that with a republican majority?
glenn
an hour ago
What really sucks is that people are going to die because of the GOP.
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
Fuzzy – I’ve spent time in the desert and desert cities when it’s gotten as hot as 125 degrees which is like being hit with a giant blowdrier the second you step outside.
AdLiban hour ago
Yes, Ad! What a debacle for her. Cringeworthy big time. Like you, I think a lot of folk are looking at each other and saying ‘What have we done?’
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
Oh yeah Ad. I loved it though, once I got used to it. It was like being on some other planet.
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
PPO and Ad–not so sure it really has sunk in yet with a lot of trump voters. My neighbor across the street, who otherwise is a nice person, is excited to see trump inaguarated. So much so that she’s having a party in our clubhouse so a bunch of people can watch it together. She knows my politics, so needless to say, I was not invited.
glenn
an hour ago
I bet that made you really sad, eh glenn?
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
Ad–the best thing about living in desert climates is you save on washing towels, because you dry off the minute you step out of the shower. Of course, then you have to spend a fortune on mosturizer so your elbows don’t look like camel’s knees!
glenn
an hour ago
glenn, get a few like-minded folk and hold a wake at the same time!
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
Fuzzy–Yeah, I was really upset! NOT! She did say I could come if I wanted to, and I told her I wouldn’t want to see that if she paid me.
glenn
an hour ago
Good for you, glenn. I’m not going to watch it. My stomach just isn’t that strong any more.
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
PPO–Unfortunately, I live in a republican neighborhood, don’t know that many people here, and I don’t want to acknowledge his “big day” in any way, shape, or form.
glenn
an hour ago
glenn and PPO – I still coonfess to a complete lack of understanding of the emotional or uneducated voter. Who would make decisions in their own life or for their children the way these people make decisions on voting. Would you intentionally let your kid drive drunk and get in an accident just to teach them how dangerous drunk driving is?
AdLiban hour ago
Fuzzy–my patience isn’t that strong either. I don’t want to throw things at my TV, and I”m afraid that’s what I’d end up doing!
glenn
an hour ago
My mother said that she just can’t accept Trump as her president. I feel exactly the same. I strongly disliked W, but at least I could acknowledge him being president. Barely.
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
brb
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
Ad–I haven’t had many conversations with my neighbor about it, because she knows how I feel, but she did say to me, that she was sick of politicians! And that’s why she voted for trump. I really don’t think many of these people thought this through; don’t know why, but they seemed to have a visceral reaction to trump that just made them follow him like lemmings, no matter what he says or does. It just blows my mind. I wish I could say it’s something in the air or water, but I breathe the same air and drink the same water, so I don’t get it either.
glenn
an hour ago
Fuzzy–exactly. I go back and forth about this. On one hand, I have to acknowledge that this cretin is actually president, but I don’t have to like it.
glenn
an hour ago
glenn, I am amazed that so many people couldn’t see Trump for the real con man he is and always has been.
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
Fuzzy–me too. And these are adults! They have just been fed such a diet of right wing nonsense that real facts just don’t seem to penetrate.
glenn
an hour ago
I just refuse to call him “my president.” Hillary won the popular vote by nearly three million people. The oligarchs won, for sure. The rest of us? Nope.
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
Fuzzy–that’s the only way most of us can handle it; we have to reluctantly acknowledge that he is being sworn in as president, but he will never be “my president”. He doesn’t represent me or my values.
glenn
an hour ago
These types of Trump voters are like drunk drivers themselves. “
AdLiban hour ago
Ad–that seems to be the only explanation that makes sense. They’re drunk on something, I just can’t figure out what it is.
glenn
an hour ago
I really believe that Trump won’t last 4 years. I’m not sure what will transpire, but I don’t think he can handle such a heavy weight job.
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
Maybe Trump will tweet himself out of the job?
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
glenn – Drunk on victimization and fear?
AdLib44 minutes ago
Fuzzy–don’t know how he’s going to “bow out”. Other than impeachment, and I truly don’t see the repulicans impeaching him. They’re still supporting him even with the russian hacking, so I don’t know how he’s going to get out of it. Don’t know if there’s an option in the Constitution for the president to quit. Not to mention, then we get Pence, who’s even worse!
glenn
44 minutes ago
You got that right, Ad. Also a bit of a superiority complex.
Fuzzy Dunlop
43 minutes ago
Ad–that seems to be about right. Years of right wing propaganda have made them bloated with both!
glenn
43 minutes ago
Trump eventually turns on everybody, and he’ll do something the GOP won’t tolerate.
Fuzzy Dunlop
42 minutes ago
Nixon once said, “When the president does it, it’s not illegal. I have no doubt that Trump thinks the same.
Fuzzy Dunlop
41 minutes ago
Fuzzy–maybe. We can hope, but if the russians hacking our election haven’t made them turn on him, I can’t think of anything that will make them turn on him. So far, the GOP has tolerated every bit of his nonsense, despite their “pretty speeches” that deounce him. When push comes to shove, he still has an “R” next to his name, and politics trumps country every time for repubs!
glenn
40 minutes ago
Fuzzy–they’ve even changed their opinion of putin, from a negative one to a positive one, according to polls I’ve read.
glenn
39 minutes ago
I Trump will do something reallly, really stupid and dangerous, and the GOP will have to deal with him.
Fuzzy Dunlop
39 minutes ago
Fuzzy – I know a number of people say that but I don’t see why Trump would want to go down in histiry as the only man to quit the Presidency. However, if he’s looking at a landslide against him in 2020, I coould see him bailing on re-election.
AdLib39 minutes ago
Trump has the potential to start a war somewhere where there isn’t one yet.
Fuzzy Dunlop
38 minutes ago
Shades of Nixon, without Nixon’s political cunning
pinkpantheroz
37 minutes ago
I don’t see him quitting voluntarily. I think he’s dangerous, even for the GOP. They’ll have to save their party, because that’s all they care about. Right now, they must think they can control him. I don’t think they can.
Fuzzy Dunlop
37 minutes ago
Fuzzy–trump has been doing really stupid things for the past year and a half, and all the repubs have done is talk. Probably the only thing that would do trump in is if he wants to save Social Security, Medicare, or Obamacare. They’ll turn on him quickly then! But I don’t see that happening either!
glenn
36 minutes ago
BRB
glenn
36 minutes ago
True glenn, but he didn’t have executive power. He could be very, very dangerous, in a myriad of ways.
Fuzzy Dunlop
35 minutes ago
They definitely cannot handle someone who is more of a con artist than they are. I can’t see any good happening for the next few years.
pinkpantheroz
35 minutes ago
I think you’re right P. Trump is truly a loose cannon.
Fuzzy Dunlop
34 minutes ago
Wonder how the Loony religious are justifying a sex predator and cheating liar… oh, wait a minute! He’s just like them!
pinkpantheroz
33 minutes ago
And how about his now insisting that American taxpayers pay for his wall? And that somehow magically, though he can’t get Mexico to pay for it now, he can make them pay later???
AdLib33 minutes ago
Well folks, just wanted to pop in for a bit to say Hi. Take care all.
Fuzzy Dunlop
33 minutes ago
See ya, Fuzzy. Keep warm!
pinkpantheroz
32 minutes ago
well, I think I’ll say cheerio as well, Ad and glenn. Take care and see you next week.
pinkpantheroz
30 minutes ago
PPO – The truth of what phonies the religious right are is out for all to see now. No follower of Christ would support the hatred, selfishness and greed that Trump supports.
AdLib29 minutes ago
Well, I leave for a few minutes, and everyone else leaves. Oh well, guess I’ll say good night too. Ad, I think we’re going to spend the next four years trying to figure out what trump will do next, which is part of his appeal to his supporters. Seems to me that the opposite should be true, especially for people who call themselves conservatives, but I’ve given up trying to figure them out. I do know that the republican politicians in DC are giddy with anticipation in shredding our social safety net, so I don’t think anything good is going to come along in the next four years. I truly don’t think the Dems are going to be able to stop them.
glenn
25 minutes ago
I do think glenn that they will very quickly be fearful or villified over what they want to do. They seem to be realizing that this may be a lot harder than they think.
AdLib24 minutes ago
Yeah, I do see signs of some repubs–Cotton, of all people–re-thinking this repeal of Obamacare until they have a replacement. From what I’ve read, it will only take three repubs to vote against the repeal and it won’t happen. But ryan and mcconnell are sneaky, and are going to try to sneak the repeal or at least the de-funding into other bills and get it repealed one way or another. It definitely will be interesting to see the contortions they perform in their zeal to “punish” Dems.
glenn
20 minutes ago
To punish Dems, and to negate President Obama’s legacy.
glenn
19 minutes ago
I hate to say it but we may need them to succeed in defunding the ACA to have it exposed how they are destroying the lives of Americans. They’ve persisted with this magical myth about how their hatred of the ACA is because they want better for Americans. Idjits like Trump voters may need to be brought into severe suffering before they realize what idjits they’ve been…but so many millions of Dems and anti-Trump people will be devastated as well.
AdLib18 minutes ago
And therein lies the problem. We are going to have to hit rock bottom; many people are going to be hurt, and perhaps even die before the trump idjits realize what they have done. As I said, it ought to be interesting (read puke-worthy) to listen to mcconnell and ryan justify what they are doing.
glenn
15 minutes ago
It was instructive enough to see what a POS McConnell insisted he is by suddenly claiming that the American people woon’t accept Dems blocking a Repub nominee for SCOTUS. They have no shame, none.
AdLib14 minutes ago
Yup, no shame, no sense of irony, and no sense of hypocrisy. With that, I’m really leaving now. Always nice chatting with you, Ad. Hope you have a good week. See you next week.
As a great way to share this experience, PlanetPOV is hosting a live chat (live typed comments) tonight to discuss the night's results as they come in along with everything else this election will bring and what folks think it will mean for the future.
It is long past time to stop playing Trump’s game of racism, hate, misogyny, and abject greed. If Trump is elected, he will end democracy as we know it. Harris will preserve it and work to make it better and far more inclusive so we can have it, as Lincoln said, a more perfect union. It will only happen if you vote.
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