Vox Populi – 7-1-2016

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Beatlex

oops

Beatlex

This is what I meant to post! Opinions? http://www.thomaslfriedman.com/bookshelf/the-world-is-flat-3

Beatlex

Trump can’t understand why he is not leading.Self deluded fool

Beatlex

BBS-Shower

Beatlex

hi guys! BENGHAZI!

Harleigh

Well that phony scandal died so now the rwnj are off to Emailomania. dumbasses

Harleigh

Hola, Planet peeps! Just popping in to wish everyone a happy 4th of July weekend.

kesmarn

the rwnj sites and faux still beat the drums but nobody else cares much about it. They actually believe that tommorrow the FBI is going to arrest HRC and lead her off to jail/prison in handcuffs. seriously. LMAO

Harleigh

Happt 4th to you as well!

Harleigh

Will be heading to the cottage tomorrow. And then the 5th is the Fave’s birthday. 15th! Anyone else thinking that Bill Clinton made a little booboo with the visit to Loretta’s jet?

kesmarn

that’s cause bill threatened/bribed lynch on her plane.

Harleigh

They’re even turning on Trey Gowdy now for not being “zealous” enough in the witch hunt!

kesmarn

I haven’t had a chance to read your latest, AdLib! (Been a little crazy around here.) But I can’t wait to see Bill as Clouseau! LOL!

kesmarn

They are angry no evidence to fit the faux accusations has been released!

Harleigh

When Trey isn’t crazy enough for you, you are in a strange, strange place indeed!

kesmarn

Hello all….another meeting for my candidate but I am here now.

MurphTheSurf3

Hey, Murph!

kesmarn

Hi Kes

MurphTheSurf3

the clintons own the FBI, DOJ and Dept of State. It’s a conspiracy!

Harleigh

And now Loretta Lynch is on their payroll too.

kesmarn

Ad…the Kirk forces are hard at work trying to prove they have nothing to do with Trump….that is his campaign right now….Tammy is in the process of challenging him at every turn.

MurphTheSurf3

Ad….we are working on a big and largely new GOTV effort in Southern Illinois which is usually Elephant Territory.

MurphTheSurf3

So true. And any time the narrative doesn’t validate their fantasies, they just widen the circle of conspirators.

kesmarn

ad ain’t that the whole fuckin truth. way past amazing.

Harleigh

Harleigh…and apparently the Congress, the GOP Congress, is complicit in the Clinton conspiracy since they exercise oversight of all three…..

MurphTheSurf3

and this was all planned in 2008 with that homebrew server to thwart judicial watch.LOL

Harleigh

Diabolically clever, Harleigh!

kesmarn

Just catching up on the hostage taking in Bengladesh….horrifying…what is to be done about this- the place that terror has taken.

MurphTheSurf3

Canada is 149 today

Beatlex

Kes in all honesty it comes from ‘The Hill’! I can’t get stoned out enough to make that shit up and still type!

Harleigh

Happy Birthday, Canada!

kesmarn

Ad….Tammy’s campaign is driving home the point that it is THE GOP that have created the atmosphere in which Trump was chosen. Kirk said nary a word about Trump until he had the nomination in hand.

MurphTheSurf3

thx kes

Beatlex

Beatle….I would love to be a Canadian….so much about that nation that I admire. Lived there for three years earlier in my life.

MurphTheSurf3

Loved the Canadian greeting to the Prez: “Four more years!”

kesmarn

they get really angry when you point out that they are continually being punked by faux for their cut n paste…. they get furious!

Harleigh

Kes….Trudeau and Obama have been compared.

MurphTheSurf3

Ad…truth.

MurphTheSurf3

I can see why, Murph.

kesmarn

The more I listen and read about the fall of the American Emipire,and look at the world picture as a whole the more I think about the WORLDS probems http://www.thomaslfriedman.com/bookshelf/the-world-is-flat-3

Beatlex

Kes, I have dear friends on the Niagara Frontier, in Ottawa, in Calgary and in Vancouver.

MurphTheSurf3

If trump gets let go at their cornenshun I hope they put up a Palin -Bachmann ticket for jebus against Clinton – Warren. How unfair is that?

Harleigh

Ad…what I see ISIS becoming is another AQ but more rabid…..the only way this gets dealt with is from within the Islamic community.

MurphTheSurf3

I love Canada, Murph. We’re close enough to Windsor here that it used to be really easy to vacation there. I haven’t exerted myself to get a passport though, so I haven’t been there recently.

kesmarn

LOL! I love that cake!

kesmarn

Kes, does one need a passport now to get into Canada?

MurphTheSurf3

passport? Detroit to Windsor?!

Harleigh

Yes, unfortunately, Murph.

kesmarn

Indeed!

kesmarn

Just had a note from a friend who vacationed there and she says I do indeed need a passport. Never used to before 9/11.

kesmarn

They are so awesome!

kesmarn

MurphTheSurf3

well time for bed. night all

Harleigh

MurphTheSurf3

LOL! Ohio is apparently close enough to Canada that we’ve adopted most of the slang expression on that list!

kesmarn

G’night, Harleigh!

kesmarn

Good night Harley!

MurphTheSurf3

Anyone thinking that there might be a re-think on the Brexit situation? At least in Scotland?

kesmarn

I think I may have lost my connection…..too much True North stuff?

MurphTheSurf3

As in — another referendum for Scottish independence, followed by admission to the EU?

kesmarn

Stop it! you’re making me blush!,not really

Beatlex

Kes….I think that the “Remain” folk in the Conservative Party are going to force the “Exit” folk to endorse a rethinking of the referendum impact.

MurphTheSurf3

I wouldn’t be surprised, Murph. Although I wonder whether it’s a little late in the game now…

kesmarn

Ad…I agree with that political approach. At the same time Islam is going to have to address why their religious culture is the home of so many groups engaging in Terror in god’s name.

MurphTheSurf3

I was talking to a woman who lives in Scotland and she said the same thing, AdLib.

kesmarn

The Muslims here in Ohio continue to be utterly dismayed at things like the airport attack in Turkey. They speak out against it time and time again. I feel so bad for them. They feel helpless.

kesmarn

Ad and Kes…and that Scottish vote is another point of pressure on the Exit Conservatives. Boris Johnson’s stepping away. The opprobrium that Lafarge has experienced in the last week. The statements from a dozen very large British employers about the untenable nature of their remaining in a Non EU UK. The Conservatives will make the Exiters deal with this.

MurphTheSurf3

It’s really been a debacle, hasn’t it? And Farage’s speech to the assembled EU people was a study in arrogant ignorance.

kesmarn

Is that PPO I see over there? Hola!

kesmarn

Kes, HI! Just popping in. Today we vote here – it’s compulsory!

pinkpantheroz

ad…another referendum is unnecessary. The referendum becomes a point of information, as does the petition, as does polling, as does the impact on the economy, as does etc. in a major Parliamentary debate over a Parliamentary endorsement of whatever action is to be taken. Pressure…

MurphTheSurf3

I like that compulsory voting idea! Just curious: what is the penalty for not voting?

kesmarn

Hi PPO…what is HOT in your election this time around…

MurphTheSurf3

his Brexit was a hoax! Let the people decide? Why would you pit such an important thing to a lied to public? Crprations only gain

Beatlex

$200 or a couple of days in jug for persistent offenders. Nothing if you just pop in and present a spoiled vote. the Senate race is interesting here. there is a Pot Party and a Sex Party! I’ll be voting for them! I’m unfortunately in a blue-ribbon GOP electorate a

pinkpantheroz

Exactly, AdLib. Moderate Muslims here are really between a rock and a hard place. And Trump really isn’t helping. (But what else is new?)

kesmarn

My Oncologist (the man who likely saved my life) is a Muslim and the head of the governing committee at his mosque. I spoke with him yesterday….he is very distressed and feels powerless…his mosque has publicly condemned Islamic fundamentalism.

MurphTheSurf3

Hey Murph! Boring stuff like maintaining the Medicare system Stopping the 1% from even more excesses of trough-snuffling. The Usual.

pinkpantheroz

Trump is CLUELESS.I am sure there is a name for the illness he has.

Beatlex

Same situation here, Murph. Physicians in leadership positions at the mosque and feeling so frustrated.

kesmarn

PPO…is your government there conservative…I think so….and a bit batty.

MurphTheSurf3

NO AD! They were fooled andl lied to

Beatlex

My Muslim friend says that there is extraordinary anger among his community members because these terrorists have done these things during Ramadan – and today’s events are on the last day, the holiest day, of that special month.

MurphTheSurf3

Yes, dammit, Murph! Labor ( Dems)has some good folk, b ut no charisma. Liberals( GOP) have some charisma but nothing else. Brexit has overshadowed a lot of the debate leading up to today.

pinkpantheroz

They are most definitely not true Muslims, Murph.

kesmarn

Ad..the problem is that there has not been a single poll or survey since the vote that replicates the vote. Major organizers of the Exit campaign have asked that it be revisited…some on the grounds that the turnout fell below the 75 percent they were demanding and the exit vote was than 60 percent. Too much riding on it.

MurphTheSurf3

The Sexpot Party!

kesmarn

PPO….I thought so….

MurphTheSurf3

Ad, and Beatlex, both sides were convinced the vote would be to Remain, and any Leave vote a minority of protest at the disconnect between Gov’t and the hio-polloi. WRONG!!!!!

pinkpantheroz

Kes, Where do I sart that one! You can be the treasurer!

pinkpantheroz

PPO….I think your assessment is on the mark….my British friends report that some of the most rabid exiters are now arguing for another route…

MurphTheSurf3

I’ll be happy to take charge of the funds, PPO! On the Brexit vote — so this was — in a sense — a bluff that backfired when it was called?

kesmarn

😉

kesmarn

Murph, the problem is that the EU are fed up with the Pom’s arrogance and are now telling them to invoke the Leave statute and get on with it. They’re sick and tired of the UK demanding more conditions and privileges than the rest, so they will be quite happy for the UK to go.

pinkpantheroz

Ad….one of the turning points in the troubles in N. Ireland was an outright condemnation of the violence being perpetrated in the name of Catholic and Protestant Churches. All of the major leaders made very public statements saying that such action was a major since and grounds for excommunication. At that time people took this very seriously. Islamic culture is still very much like that.

MurphTheSurf3

Ad…all of those running right now are saying that they will honor the referendum but I think that is a tactic. They want a public outcry at such an order of magnitude that they will be “forced” to find an alternative.

MurphTheSurf3

Well, peeps, the hour is late here, so I may have to say good night. Have a safe and happy 4th!

kesmarn

Ad, the public in the UK are as fed up with the 1% as the US. They feel a huge disconnect and the gerrymander is a powerful tool there. The problem is that Labor also urged voters to remain, so they’re just as screwed yp now.

pinkpantheroz

PPO…the EU leadership can be unhappy…..and some other European nations are hoping to step in the UK shoes….but until Article 50 is activated by the UK nothing can happen.

MurphTheSurf3

‘night, Kes!

pinkpantheroz

Good night, kes.

MurphTheSurf3

Ad…the referendum is not an election….no legislative action and no one wins an office…it is a statement by the public to the leadership.

MurphTheSurf3

True, Murph, but for now, UK will get no favors for anything they may want while still in the EU. And they for sure won’t get privilege status outside.

pinkpantheroz

Ad…Gove has modified his stance in the last 48 hours…..pressure!

MurphTheSurf3

PPO…the UK is a major global economy……it will work its way back in if it stays.

MurphTheSurf3

Ad, The main problem for the UK is that both Scotland and Northern IKreland voted overwhelmingly to Remain IN. So now Scotland may be able to justify a referendum seeking the OK to secede from the UK and stay in the EU. Northern Ireland – well I don’t have a clue there. It may be that circumstances force it to try and unite with thr Republic, but that is fraught with problems as well.

pinkpantheroz

Ad…my friend tells me that what is needed is a huge outpouring of fatwah’s from the vast majority of Muslim scholars and imams declaring that groups like ISIS are heretical and damned AND really pour it on. For one thing those who refused to do this would be more visible .

MurphTheSurf3

Ad, in the UK it was always said that the Referendum was NOT legally binding, but woe betide anyone who did not abide by the result. So there is sort of wriggle room, but they may have to go evenTually.

pinkpantheroz

PPO….technically the three Parliaments (English, Welsh and Scot) have to ok the EU exit….

MurphTheSurf3

PPO…..I have made the point that since the referendum there has been no poll, no survey, no study that has replicated the result AND a huge outcry to undo it. I suggest that the referendum be part of a full debate in Parliament requiring a vote.

MurphTheSurf3

Ad….and that Scot possibility is another of the huge pressure points.

MurphTheSurf3

Well, gang….I am heading off to my chamber in hopes of better news tomorrow..

MurphTheSurf3

Maybe that’s the way to go, Murph. I’m still stewing ab out Cameron and Johnson’s cowardice in creating the heap of shite and walking away to leave some other poor bastard to clean up.

pinkpantheroz

sleep well, Murph, and enjoy your long weekend. Happy 4th!

pinkpantheroz

Ad….my friend’s point is to remove all doubt that the thinking of Islam as a whole is to condemn terror- formally – and to preach that such actions are heretical…..the aim here is to reduce its attractiveness to converts.

MurphTheSurf3

So Bill Clinton meets on the tarmac! Unforced error

Beatlex

Cameron had no choice but to tender his resignation given that he laid his Prime Ministership on the line…..he could have really walked away as Johnson did, but his multi month resignation period is a gambit I think.

MurphTheSurf3

LOretta Lynch-oops

Beatlex

Good night all.

MurphTheSurf3

Bye murph

Beatlex

Murph, there are as many schisms within Islam as there are in Christianity. How have We managed?

pinkpantheroz

Good night, Murph.

pinkpantheroz

Mother nature will deal with us Humand if we don’t act to slw the warming.I think we are past the tipping point

Beatlex

Well, I’d better exercise my compulsory right to call my local member a lying dickhead, so I’ll say cheerio. Social media HAS to be censored to stop the spread of the fundamentalists filth.

pinkpantheroz

beat, the hole in theOzone layer is closing again. Well done us!

pinkpantheroz

It is only going to get worse Oz,I am afraid

Beatlex

see y’all on the flipside. West bound and down. Yup, Ad, news last night. only 30 years after banning the PCPs.

pinkpantheroz

Nite!

Beatlex