Vox Populi – 2-26-2016

Vox Populi, our weekly live chat on the week’s events begins tonight at 7:00pm PST. Hope to see you then!

AdLib 7 days ago

Don’t forget to say “Hi!” or “Marco is a chocker!” when you arrive!

AdLib 7 days ago

Hey glenn! Hey Murph!

AdLib 7 days ago

Murph – FYI, I didn’t realize we had a setting on Vox that didn’t allow guests to read along if they didn’t register and sign on. That’s fixed so you can spread the word to folks who just want to read along as guests that they can now.

AdLib 7 days ago

Hey PPO!

AdLib 7 days ago

Doesn’t Christie look like a big fat sellout?

AdLib 7 days ago

Chockers and Liars and Pants Wetters, oh my!

AdLib 7 days ago

So isn’t it pretty plain now that all you have to do is cut a commercial with the inspirational speeches of Lincoln, FDR, Kennedy and Obama…then cut in clips of Trump calling Cruz a “pussy”, calling everyone “Liar!” and calling Mexicans rapists and criminals…bye-bye Trump. I mean, how hard would it be for Dems to tag him as too much of an embarassment to be President?

AdLib 7 days ago

glenn – I thought Trump was going to use Emminent Domain to take away all the news stations from their owners and just have them all broadcast pro-Trump propaganda if he became President.

AdLib 7 days ago

You know, just like his hero Putin?

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Looking at the big picture, Trump will be decimated in a GE as strongly as he’s been elevated in the GOP primary by the MSM. Apparently, Dem research firms have been digging up lots of dirt on Trump and claim only a small fraction has even been out in the public yet. The Trump University fraud and illegal workers fine are just the small tip of the iceberg and it’s a yuuge iceberg!

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PPO – It’s tooo yuuge to melt. Trump has a loong and slimy history as a greedy elitist. All his misdeads aren’t going anywhere, he will he flailing around helplessly in the GE.

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glenn – Exactly, the Trump Drones have pledged their undying loyalty to Herr Trump but in a GE, indies and conservative Dems…AND moderate Repubs will be too alarmed to vote for anyone but the Dem nominee.

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PPO – Always keep in mind that even if Trump is winning 50% of the GOP, that’s only 14% of the voting public. Too much for a lunatic like him to get but way far away from anything resembling a majority in a GE. And Latinos, women, blacks and Muslims will be among the energized turnout to keep Trump out.

AdLib 7 days ago

Murph – Yes, that’s the info I was talking about. If last night proved anything, it’s that Trump has a g;ass chin and falls easily when smacked with negative attacks. Not a goood trait foor someone building his whole appeal on being a strong man dictator type.

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glenn – They’ve been running clips today oof Christie dissing Trump as not equipped to be President aloingside his absolute endorsement of Trump. They all do look like such frauds and liars, it’s obvious to all but the core GOP Borg.

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Murph – Do you think Trump has a good chance of winning a GE?

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glenn – Because the racist RW attacks on Obama are always cloaked in some “higher principle” like standing up for the Constitution. When really, they embraced Putin and Trump, they crave authoritarianism. Saw a study that linked all the different types of voters supporting Trump, the one thing they had in common was being authoritarians and wanting that in a President.

AdLib 7 days ago

Murph – I don’t know, look what happened to Ben Carson when the Paris and San Bernadino attacks happened. If it’s Trump vs. Clinton or Sanders, I think support will flood behind the Dem because they will be the only one with experience in government. Trump would seem like a bigger risk, as someone with no experience.

AdLib 7 days ago

I’d propose that the public would floock to the more establishment candidate for security if there was an attack, not the inexperienced outsider.

AdLib 7 days ago

flock that is, my “o” key keeps repeating!!!

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glenn – They will twist themselves around as Christie has but it will all ring just as phony.

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glenn –

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glenn – I don’t expect the the mindless Repubs dedicated to Trump to ever change their commitment to him, they don’t matter. All that matters is that Indie and Dem voters…and many moderate Repubs pay a little attention. It will be obvious by November how awful and ill equipped Trump is for the Presidency. He can’t win.

AdLib 7 days ago

I do think that Repubs want to use the SCOTUS position to convince Repubs to support Trump but it won’t be enough compared to the landslide of dirt Trump will be buried in.

AdLib 7 days ago

PPO – Point well taken but who really believed that Repubs cared about The Constitution and principles? Just a means to an end on what they want, they happily use the rest of The Constitution as toilet paper when it doesn’t support what they want.

AdLib 7 days ago

glenn – Trump will never have enough support to win. Latest polls show 80% of Latinos disapprove of him. A majority of women disapprove, same goes for young voters, blacks and many minorities. There just aren’t enough hateful white men out there to give him the Presidency. And when you look at it electorally, state by state, he’ll lose FL with the high Latino population and that will be about all the Dems need with all the other states that are blue or lean blue. But Latinos, blacks, women and young voters will swing other states too. Trump would have a landslide loss.

AdLib 7 days ago

Murph – It’s annoying that without a Dem debating these Repubs, their lies about ISIS go unchallenged, especially by the moderators. As we know, ISIS is on the run right now, losing lots of territory and finances, slashing what they pay their mercenaries, their leadership keeps getting bombed. Can’t remember the exact figure bout the current estimate of ISIS troops is down substantially now. In a GE denate, the Dem would blow up that lie with facts and figures.

AdLib 7 days ago

Murph – Not a concern. Which party has been getting a massive amount of coverage in the primaries? It ain’t the Dems. The MSM is helping whip up Repub turnout by being in essence a cheerleader for the GOP but all that will change in a GE.

AdLib 7 days ago

PPO – I don’t think Dems are lazy, they just aren’t as motivated as the Repubs because the televised circus in their party gets the majority of airtime. Won’t be a problem in the GE.

AdLib 7 days ago

glenn – You know I’m not a wishful thinker, just trying to reason out what the causes and effects are and how they will end up affecting things. I’ve always said Trump had a great shot at winning the GOP nom so I recognize his appeal and the MSM’s contributions to his success in the GOP. But I donb’t see the dynamics working favorably for him in the GE, two very different animals. The norm is, you pander to your party in the primaries then move to the center in the GE. Trump has no room to move to the center, his core support is because he’s an extremist and he would risk losing his core supporters if he veered to the middle. Will Indies and Dems vote for an oobnoxious bigot? Nope, just Repubs.

AdLib 7 days ago

glenn – I think Christie hopes he could be VP, would settle for AG but will have to accept being on UI (Unemployment Insurance).

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Murph – That kind of thing annoys me. Those Dem operatives seem like many people in politics that knee jerk respond to the immediate situation as if it is identical to the future. One has nothing to do with the other. The motivation of Dems to get out the vote in a GE is wholly different than in this primary. To be frank, I think many Dems see Hillary as the inevitable nominee and that’s not giving an urgent reason to vote. In a GE, very different, with Hillary or Bernie vs. Trump, there will be a very urgent reason for Dems to vote.

AdLib 7 days ago

My message to Dems on Trump:

AdLib 7 days ago

I like that conclusion about Christie and a pardon, glenn!

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glenn – Agreed but that seems to be the obvious problem depressing Dem turnout. Too many Dems see the primary as a fait accompli so they don’t need to vote.

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Murph – The very experienced people have been the ones wrong at every turn with regards to Trump. And stats are about the immediate picture, they don’t speak to the future definitively.

AdLib 7 days ago

All the experts have discounted Trump from the start. Now they represent Trump as having broad appeal and a serious threat. I think they’re batting 1.000 for being wrong.

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Murph – Christie sure doesn’t bring any value as a VP. He wouldn’t win his own state and going up against the diversity that the Dem ticket will likely have, they would loook like an archaic ticket.

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glenn – Hillary beats Trump in nearly every poll taken…and Hillary has been attacked incessantly in the public, Trump hasn’t been. Bernie beats Trump in polls by much wider margins and even if they beat him repeatedly with “socialist”, so much more dirt on Trump to beat him down.

AdLib 7 days ago

I don’t know them so not dissing them personally but their worries are not even borne out by all the polling to date, which favors either Dem over Trump and at this point, Trump would be polling higher than after being hammered in a GE.

AdLib 7 days ago

Christie will just be shilling for Trump to get any scraps Trump could throw him in the future…but Trump won’t win so Christie will have prostituted himself out for nothing.

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glenn – Yes but the Repubs are having their convention early (in July?) and the Dems are having theirs in August I believe. So after the spectacle of the Trump RNC, comes the sanity of the DNC.

AdLib 7 days ago

The comparison of the conventions, with the Repubs frothing at the mouth in their full fledged lunacy and the Dems looking like smart and sensible people, the election will be tipping the Dem’s way from the start.

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Murph – The Dems moved it up from when they had originally planned. Even so, it’s the perfect order, like being the hoome team. The Visitors are up first and strike out then the Home team comes up and hits a home run!

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glenn – That’s a good question. Even if Trump is way ahead, if it looks like he won’t get the majority oof delegates he needs, then yes, others will stay in the race heading into the convention, hoping to win on a second ballot. If Trump secures the majority he needs, I think the others will suspend their campaigns.

AdLib 7 days ago

My hope is that Trump gets the most delegates but doesn’t get all he needs too win the nom. Then a brokered convention would take place and the GOP would tear itself apart. Most likely thoough, I think Trump will win the nom outright.

AdLib 7 days ago

Great to hear, glenn! That is critical to stop! Look at what happened in Flint and Detroit, the state comes in and takes over local things and destroys them.

AdLib 7 days ago

glenn – That’s right! It was a disaster foor the Dems and led to their losing that election. Would love to see history repeat itself but on the Repub side this time.

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Murph – Very telling but Portman will be disappointed because that kind of thing rarely turns out well for a party, running against their Presidential nom?

AdLib 7 days ago

With McConnell shutting down the SCOTUS and pissing on The Constitutioon, Trump as the Repub nominee wanting to ban all Muslims from the country…no Repub will be able to run away from the GOP’s insanity.

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Murph – Trump will be so high profile as the leader of the GOP, there will be little success for Repubs trying to run away from him.

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glenn – And kill the ACA, and defund Planned Parenthood and start trade wars with China, Japan and Mexico? Nope, no mainstream support for Trump and Repubs this year.

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glenn – That’s what many pundits are missing. 40% of the GOP oppose Trump. 60% of all voters oppose Trump right now and 80% of Latinos oppose him. There is not a path for Trump in a GE.

AdLib 7 days ago

Night glenn! Have a great weekend!

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Murph – True, that’s a legit scenario oon the SCOTUS. Just depends if Obama feels that at that point he owes it to the new Dem President to mnake that choice.

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Murph – The GOP has already fallen apart. The RNC has no control anymore, estab Repubs and their endorsements are meaningless. The GOP will in a way die this year but it will continue, either disabled foor years or slowly working its way back to functioning.

AdLib 7 days ago

I think they lose the Senate and many state seats this year. If the SCOTUS gets another liberal judge, maybe gerrymandering is broken up and Dems have a chance to win back the House soon too. This is the high watermark for Repubs, it will recede this year.

AdLib 7 days ago

Night Murph! Night PPO!