Vox Populi – 2-5-2016

Trumptastrophe! How are you, Ad?

glenn

Ahh, mostly same old, same old, but I’m already tired of cold weather, and it’s only Feb.!

glenn

I think it covered a lot of substance, as usual for the Dem debates. Hey did you notice Chuck Toad asked my question about being each other’s vice presidents? What did you think of their answers? I think Hillary is more willing to consider it than Bernie is.

glenn

What’s up docs and docesses?

KillgoreTrout

Hey KT–how are you?

glenn

Nice sunny 86 today! Hi All

pinkpantheroz

Pretty good glenn, and you?

KillgoreTrout

Hey Pink!

KillgoreTrout

PPO–I’m jealous. Right now it’s 36 and I HATE cold weather!

glenn

chuck toad is an asshole

pinkpantheroz

KT–see my answer to PPO. I’m just not a cold weather person.

glenn

Well, glenn, in July I’ll be shivering. It does get cold in Australia

pinkpantheroz

glenn, you live in the south, right?

KillgoreTrout

PPO–agreed about Chuck Toad.

glenn

Hey Ad.

KillgoreTrout

Desperate ploy from Jeb. His old man hasn’t the best reputation, now, has he? at least he hasn’t been indicted, yet

pinkpantheroz

PPO–I know. I just want to live in Australia in the (our) winter time and in GA in the summer. Gotta win the lottery first, though, I guess.

glenn

KT–Yeah, I live in GA, in a town called Woodstock, about 40 miles NW of Atlanta.

glenn

Same here, glenn, but San Francisco for me

pinkpantheroz

it’s a blamy 32 here in central Ohio. Mild winter so far. Afew days in the low teens, but then it warmed up.

KillgoreTrout

Sorry, AD!

pinkpantheroz

I don’t suspect you have too many cold days there?

KillgoreTrout

PPO–I like CA too, but since my family is here in GA, that’s why I would choose GA.

glenn

Heb is really a pitiful character.

KillgoreTrout

KT, yes, This far South the climate is almost the same as Britain or Ireland

pinkpantheroz

KT–It’s all in your perspective as to what is “cold”. For me, below 40 is cold, and we’ve had lots of those days and mostly nights. Although last week, our temps were in the 50’s and 60’s; we even had two or three days in the 70’s. But it’s supposed to snow next week.

glenn

What about Rubio’s climb? Just as dangerous as Cruz or, (shudder), Trump?

pinkpantheroz

Calling Dr. Freud!

KillgoreTrout

glenn, I think it’s El Nino’s fault.

KillgoreTrout

I think Heb has a mommy complex.

KillgoreTrout

Ad–Do you think Jebbie is going to fade away? I think he’ll stay in it for a while longer, although I can’t tell you why. But that ad by his brother and now brining in Mommy, who once said that we don’t need any more Bushes in the WH, is just pitiful.

glenn

And his brother has a daddy complex.

KillgoreTrout

KT, does the GOP believe in El Nino? Climate deniers and all?

pinkpantheroz

Gee P, I have no idea. Iknow they’re not real big on science, in general.

KillgoreTrout

PPO–The pundits seem to think that Rubio would be the most difficult to beat in a general election. Given that I think he’s a weasel, I just can’t see that, but what do I know? I just can’t understand how an “anchor baby”, a Cuban, no less, can be so against immigration. That’s what gets me about him.

glenn

Kt, that’s fer shure. Of course, It can’t be God telling them they are disappointing Him.

pinkpantheroz

Rubio, like the rest of the clowns is a big hypocrite.

KillgoreTrout

PPO, god never disapproves of the RW fundies. He’s on their team.

KillgoreTrout

Just read that Saint Bernie has had a cozy relationship with several large banks for 2 decades, getting FREE checking accounts. Hmmmmmm.

pinkpantheroz

Where did you read that, P?

KillgoreTrout

Ad–I guess it depends on what you mean by “smart”. Perhaps he can be considered smart if he reads the writing on the wall and drops out; but considering him the smart one in the family is setting the bar pretty low. Although I think the old man GHWB is (or at least was) relatively smart.

glenn

New Yorker

pinkpantheroz

Wow, that’s pretty reputable.

KillgoreTrout

Well, free checking is a feature offered by many US banks.

KillgoreTrout

Ad–agreed about the pundits. They just need something to blather about. I just don’t see how rubio is a threat in the GE no matter what those morons say.

glenn

Oops, sucker me!

pinkpantheroz

The GOPer really don’t have a qualified candidate.

KillgoreTrout

LOL!

KillgoreTrout

PPO–Sure, I get free checking too by keeping a certain balance in my account. Oops, I see Ad told you it’s a comedy article.

glenn

Blame my missus, she told me!

pinkpantheroz

That IS pretty funny.

KillgoreTrout

KT–agreed. The gop gets to choose between the devil, the Canadian, and the Cuban. Saw a funny meme the other day–if President Obama is considered a Muslim because his father is from Kenya, are Cruz and Rubio considered Communists because their fathers are from Cuba?

glenn

so, is The Rump going to south Carolina?

KillgoreTrout

Well, New H. Will Bernie clobber Hillary there, and can he keep any momentum after that like in Sth carolina?

pinkpantheroz

Ha! Great question, glenn.

KillgoreTrout

Great observation, G!

pinkpantheroz

Ad–isn’t using coupons capitalist? After all, isn’t Bernie a socialist?

glenn

i hear Bernie has a huge chache of S&H Green stamps.

KillgoreTrout

KT–LOL! I remember green stamps!

glenn

Careful, we’re showing our age.

KillgoreTrout

KT–is SC where the next debate is? Or is it in NH? And will trump participate in the debate? Seems to me he’s boxed himself into a corner if Meghyn Kelly is one of the moderators? How will he spin that one?

glenn

boy, No True Scottsman was at the debate last night. The race to purity.

KillgoreTrout

I don’t know just now glenn.

KillgoreTrout

Amazing right now that there is thundering silence from DT

pinkpantheroz

I want Rachel Maddow to moderate the next GOP debate! Of course, that won’t happen because GOPer fear her.

KillgoreTrout

Ad–yes, it is great logic; but we all know that logic isn’t in the repubs’ vocabulary.

glenn

P, he still in shock because he is now publicly known as a LOSER!

KillgoreTrout

KT, long may that continue.

pinkpantheroz

Hear, Hear!

KillgoreTrout

KT–No, we cannot have Rachel Maddow moderate the debate because she hugged both Bernie and Hillary after the debate. According to foxsocallednews, that is just NOT done! And Rachel’s response was perfect. She “threatened” to hug the gop candidates, too, if she ever moderated a gop debate! Oh the horror!

glenn

I am so glad that witch is out of the debate. Just looking at her makes my skin crawl. It’s like looking at Ted Cruz. Eeeeewwww!

KillgoreTrout

Well, how many are left, and has Sanctimonium offcialy pulled out?

pinkpantheroz

Well, they’re even terrified of their own! MK is the DEVIL!

pinkpantheroz

The horror, the horror! Look what happened to Chris Christie after he hugged Obama. BUT, GW kissed a Saudi Prince, and not a word about it from the RW crazies.

KillgoreTrout

Ad–don’t you “love” how the repubs are so much for rules and regulations, except for when those rules and regulations apply to them? Carly does not qualify on ANY of the criteria set up for the debate, but it’s George Stehanolupus who kept her out, dontcha know?

glenn

glenn, that’s the party of personal responsibility, don’t cha know.

KillgoreTrout

Did Ben Carson get his change of clothes?

KillgoreTrout

PPO–Sanctimonium has officially pulled out, as well as Huckabee.

glenn

KT, did he shit his pants again?

pinkpantheroz

I wish Santorums’s dad had pulled out so many years ago! (shame on me)

KillgoreTrout

LOL, KT. A lot thinnk like that!

pinkpantheroz

p, I hear Xanax will do that.

KillgoreTrout

KT–It’s a cliche, but it’s still true. IOIYAR! You can kiss a Saudi prince, hold hands with him in the Rose Garden, start a war, wreck the economy, sell arms to the contras, raise taxes, have embassies attacked on your watch; hell, have the United States attacked on your watch; but it’s all either the liberals’ or Obama’s fault!

glenn

always glenn. I mean hey, Obama caused Track Palin’s PTSD! What a demon!

KillgoreTrout

I see the White Nationalists are robocalling for Trump in NH. That should go down well. What next, the KKK doorknocking?

pinkpantheroz

i think Trump will win NH. Bernie will definitely win NH. He’s something like 20 points ahead of Hillary there. Well, of course, it’s New England.

KillgoreTrout

I fear that, now Rubio is on the rise ans the’Establishment’ candiate, the full weight of the GOP will swing behind him and the more conservative voters will jump to vote for him, odious cretin that he is.

pinkpantheroz

Cruz doesn’t have the fundie vote in New Hampshire.

KillgoreTrout

Ad–yes, Carly is claiming that Stephanolus blocked her because he was part of the Clinton administration. Has nothing to do with the fact that she didn’t meet the very low bar set by the republicans themselves. Once again, the party of “personal responsibility” takes no personal responsibility.

glenn

don’t tell anyone, folks, but all the candidates are establishment, except for Trump and Crazy Doc Carson.

KillgoreTrout

KT are there enough nutters in NH to get Trump across the line?

pinkpantheroz

among those on the right, yeah.

KillgoreTrout

Sheesh

pinkpantheroz

New Hampshire is really kind of purple.

KillgoreTrout

Ad–I like your scenario. A brokered convention would really be entertaining. And the pundits would have a field day!

glenn

Just what is a brokered convention, anyhoo?

KillgoreTrout

Is a BC where they actually have to count delegates?

pinkpantheroz

Ad and KT–Not everyone hates Cruz. His base seems to love him and his slimy voice and demeanor.

glenn

They all are, just by way of where they work. I’m using the 60s definition of “establishment,” because I think their use of that word is meant to make one think of the radical sixties.

KillgoreTrout

Ad–but if cruz were the nominee, what would the RNC do? Not that I think cruz will get anywhere near the nomination, but wouldn’t it be interesting to see what the RNC would do if he were? Oh the entertainment value of watching them having to eat crow!

glenn

thankfully, Cruz’s base is a small percentage of American voters. They’re the creme de la creme of crazies.

KillgoreTrout

KT, recent conventions have been held, just to crown the already decided nominee. Years ago, the convention was the place wheredelgates from all states, spoke, fought, bit and scratched to get their guy nominated. Nowadays it is just a grogfest, but it may change this time. Good

pinkpantheroz

What Ad said!

pinkpantheroz

sounds chaotic, Ad.

KillgoreTrout

Ad–I agree. I just don’t understand the fascination with Trump. I can’t understand why being angry and lying are requirements for being President. And the fact that the anger is so misplaced just blows my mind! Why isn’t anyone mentioning the part that Congress has played in the middle class anxiety? Why aren’t any of our pundits mentioning all the bills that Congress either won’t or can’t pass? Do you remember when President Obama was first elected and how the repubs were all complaining about all those wonderful bills that were going to help the middle class that were “sitting on Harry Reid’s desk”? Where are all of those bills now that the repubs have control of both houses of Congress?

glenn

Ad–I think I’ve asked you this question before, but if the brokered convention doesn’t nominate Trump, do you think he’ll run as an independent? What about Cruz? Or even Rubio?

glenn

did anybody see the old video of Trump dressed as a farmer, sing the Green Acres theme song? Frickin hilarious. It would have even funnier had Mr. Haney (Cruz) been there

KillgoreTrout

glenn, hopefully your questions will be raised as time goes on. Very good points

pinkpantheroz

like three cats in a burlap sack.

KillgoreTrout

Ad–I would so love to have the repubs bring the issue of Cruz’s citizenship to the courts.

glenn

pinkpantheroz

KT–Yes, I saw that video. It was hilarious and painful at the same time!

glenn

ah, thanks P! Too frickin funny. glenn I couldn’t stop laughing.

KillgoreTrout

Maybe Trump will make a campaign stop in Petticoat Junction! Woo Woo!

KillgoreTrout

KT… while Hillary and Bernie visit Happy Days!

pinkpantheroz

I don’t how the GOPers can think our military is underfunded the Navy just came out with three Littoral class destroyers, at several billion a piece, a new air craft carrier, more billions and a slew of new tanks.

KillgoreTrout

P. Let’s hope so.

KillgoreTrout

Ad–the repubs blather as if we had a monarchy, but that is exactly what they want. Trump is going to do all these things not specified yet, because someone else would steal his ideas; cruz is going to repeal every word of Obamacare on his first day in office, and no one knows what rubio is going to do because the koch brothers haven’t told him yet. They all want to be emperors, yet complain when President Obama acts like a president.

glenn

KT–but we have fewer horses and calvary, dontcha know?

glenn

glenn, they don’t really like democracy. Damn, we need more hose flesh! And wagons, lots and lots of wagons, and Gattling guns.

KillgoreTrout

KT–Yea, gattling guns! I really love the way they roll!

glenn

King Donald the First. Puhleeeease, I just had lunch

pinkpantheroz

That should be “horse,” flesh! Ooops.

KillgoreTrout

Emperor Trump?

KillgoreTrout

Ad–but he didn’t really “lose”. Cruz “stole” it!

glenn

I always thought Green Acres was bit further south.

KillgoreTrout

Fuhrer Trump! Round up the usual Muslims.

pinkpantheroz

Ad–Oh, wouldn’t that be great if Trump teamed up with his “friend” Hillary again, to beat the repubs? That would be hysterical!

glenn

Trump really reminds me of a modern day mob boss. Same mentality.

KillgoreTrout

KT–Well he did tell his supporters to beat up protesters, and he would pay the legal fees!

glenn

glenn, I think they’d end up killing each other.

KillgoreTrout

Yep.

KillgoreTrout

glenn, Poo Iddle Donald, out-cheated by a rival? That has to be a first in so many ways. Welcome to the Bigs, DT!

pinkpantheroz

BRB

glenn

Trumps in the NFL now!

KillgoreTrout

Jeebus! It’s funnier!

KillgoreTrout

But super creepy.

KillgoreTrout

I just meant he seems to think like one. I believe he really does. It’s that same mentality.

KillgoreTrout

Trump just hires muscle when he needs it.

KillgoreTrout

Ad, Sprinkle him over his rose bushes, later of course.

pinkpantheroz

Trump was too busy thinking about Trump! Hoisted on his own petard.

KillgoreTrout

i guess the artist of the deal got hoodwinked.

KillgoreTrout

You know who really has the most punchable face? Ted Cruz. Every time I see that face, I get a strong wish to flatten him.

KillgoreTrout

Graydon Carter in Vanity Fair wrote: Like so many bullies, Trump has skin of gossamer. He thinks nothing of saying the most hurtful thing about someone else, but when he hears a whisper that runs counter to his own vainglorious self-image, he coils like a caged ferret. Just to drive him a little bit crazy, I took to referring to him as a “short-fingered vulgarian” in the pages of Spy magazine. That was more than a quarter of a century ago. To this day, I receive the occasional envelope from Trump. There is always a photo of him—generally a tear sheet from a magazine. On all of them he has circled his hand in gold Sharpie in a valiant effort to highlight the length of his fingers. I almost feel sorry for the poor fellow because, to me, the fingers still look abnormally stubby. The most recent offering arrived earlier this year, before his decision to go after the Republican presidential nomination. Like the other packages, this one included a circled hand and the words, also written in gold Sharpie: “See, not so short!” I sent the picture back by return mail with a note attached, saying, “Actually, quite short.” Which I can only assume gave him fits.

pinkpantheroz

PPO–the short-fingered vulgarian indeed! Loved it when I saw this the other day.

glenn

Any relation between finger size and “manhood?”

KillgoreTrout

PPO–You mean drive him over the edge? He’s already crazy!

glenn

Ad, we can but try. How about Donald ‘Stubby Fingers’ Trump?

pinkpantheroz

KT–I keep hearing rumors about that relationship, but having no experience in that matter, can’t answer that!

glenn

Donald Trump, the Elton John of Politicians

pinkpantheroz

Ad, you’re a genius! That is a great idea, and surely quite profitable.

KillgoreTrout

sure glenn!

KillgoreTrout

Ad–perhaps that would be an item to sell on the Planet!

glenn

P, why be cruel to Elton?

KillgoreTrout

Ad and PPO–I like Stump! Sounds like a mob boss name to me!

glenn

True, KT, I take it back. Sorry, Elton!

pinkpantheroz

Stump it is!

pinkpantheroz

Trump is the master at over-compensation.

KillgoreTrout

Now, if we could only Trademark Ted Crude and Marco Rubbery…

pinkpantheroz

BRB

pinkpantheroz

how about a toilet bowl with Trump’s face at the bottom. Take a dump on Trump!

KillgoreTrout

PPO–Saw an article the other day about cruz’s logo. You know, the one that says TrusTed. Seems someone looked up TRUS on the internet and it means TransRectalUltraSound. So, we should just call him TransRectalTed.

glenn

well, he does suck.

KillgoreTrout

glenn, that’s hilarious. One could be used to look for his head. I know it’s up there, somewhere.

KillgoreTrout

KT–Somewhere on the “intertubes” is a picture of trump’s mouth as a urinal. It’s hysterical! But so fitting. But you can’t take a dump in a urinal, can you? Guess pissing on him is almost as good.

glenn

glenn, only when you’re drunk enough.

KillgoreTrout

KT–Exactly!

glenn

Ad–I was thinking of a truss, too, but the transrectal ultrasound is so perfect!

glenn

Ad–thanks. I knew someone would find it.

glenn

Perfect! I wonder where that photo was taken.

KillgoreTrout

KT–It was taken in the Trump Tower!

glenn

Ah So!

KillgoreTrout

Come on, America! Take a Dump on Trump! (You know you want to)

KillgoreTrout

Well, Bernie is definitely going to win NH. What else might happen, I have no idea.

KillgoreTrout

Ad–I think it will be a another close one between Bernie and Hillary. Speaking of which, will the Dems end up with a brokered convention if it continues to be close between Hillary and Bernie? Didn’t I read somewhere that Hillary already has a lot of delegates already committed to her? Is that possible before the primaries?

glenn

I don’t know glenn. Bernie leads Hillary by at least 20 points, in NH.

KillgoreTrout

KT–Haven’t seen those polls, but I have seen where Bernie is cutting into Hillary’s lead nationally. You could be right; I think NH is Bernie’s territory, as it were.

glenn

Oh it is. It’s New England. That is Bernie country.

KillgoreTrout

Ad–Yes, I think they could be battling to the end, just like 2008. However, I have no idea who would come out the nominee in the end, do you?

glenn

glenn, right now, I think it’s anybody’s guess.

KillgoreTrout

well good peeps, time for me to say good night. See ya later!

KillgoreTrout

KT and Ad–And, once again, from what I am reading, it’s the young people who are the impetus behind Bernie, although he seems to have a lot of “little people” sending him donations, so he may pass Hillary.

glenn

G’night, KT. Have a great weekend.

glenn

Ad–I know. Who would’ve thunk it? However, I think it was also because, at that point, Hillary was just about the only one in the race, wasn’t she?

glenn

glenn and Ad, I still think Bernie’s run will run out of steam after SC.

pinkpantheroz

I don’t think that Bernie will be able to command the kind of money that Hillary will throw at him. Add to that the negatives that will surely come from the GOP about his ‘comminist’ Socialist line.

pinkpantheroz

PPO–But Hillary has just as many negatives, according to the gop, at least. You know, they will continue the email and Benghazi nonsense, not to mention Bill’s BJ and Vince Foster.

glenn

Also, would the DNC risk all on him? I believe likeability won’t get him across the line with Dem Stalwarts

pinkpantheroz

I feel the Dems will go the way of pragmatism, with someone who has vast experience in Washington.

pinkpantheroz

PPO–And most of Bernie’s donors, from what I read, are repeat donors. IOW, they are sending him money a little at a time, so even though they’re small donations, they add up when they’re done over time.

glenn

Then again, you never know. How many gave Barack Obama a chance early on against her?

pinkpantheroz

PPO–While I think you may be right about the DNC, the little people who are backing Bernie may make them change their minds.

glenn

One way or t’other, its going to be interesting, to say the least.

pinkpantheroz

To me the bottom line is I would be happy to back either candidate. I think Dems have two strong candidates, both strong in their own ways. As far as Hillary’s experience is concerned, hers may be more varied than Bernie’s but Bernie has been consistent in his beliefs for all of his political career. I consider that a plus!

glenn

Ad–and the repubs saying that they were going to make him a one-term president!

glenn

Time for me to go, folks. Great conversations tonight! Take care and have a great weekend!

glenn

glenn, granted and a good point, but would he be able to keep those beliefs true in the furball of Washington?

pinkpantheroz

Cheerio, glenn. see you again soon. Good night to you as well, ad. Great chats as usual

pinkpantheroz