Vox Populi, our live weekly chat on the week’s events begins at 7:00pm PST today. Hope to see you then!
AdLib7 days ago
Hey, Ad. Is it just me and you tonight? How are you?
glenn
7 days ago
So far glenn! More will come, always late near the holidays!
AdLib7 days ago
So, what’s new with you?
glenn
7 days ago
Getting some of my holiday shopping done! How about you?
AdLib7 days ago
Are you shopping now? Most of mine is done. Have to get a few more little things, but the things that had to be shipped are done, at least.
glenn
7 days ago
I must confess, I did take advantage of the Cyber Week sales…and saved quite a bit.
AdLib7 days ago
This was good week for bad things for Trump. I think he’s helped himself get the nom but sealed his fate on losing the GE.
AdLib7 days ago
Me too. Speaking of shopping, I think the RNC wants to “return” Trump ’cause he’s on the “naughty” list. Who do you think is on the “nice” list? Cruz? Rubio? Bush? What about Kasich?
glenn
7 days ago
Trump is to the race as e coli is to Chipolte.
AdLib7 days ago
They all will be getting coal for Christmas…which they will try to burn in a new coal plant.
AdLib7 days ago
I want a brokered cornvention and a Palin – Bachmann ticket for jebus!
Harleigh
7 days ago
True dat! His supporters love him, though. I cannot imagine that man (and I use that term loosely) being POTUS. What a nightmare for the US. Most of our allies, even the ones with far right leaders, have condemned him. And, yet, his supporters still love him. Such short-sighted, hateful people. And, meanwhile, here in GA, our governor is refusing to process applications of refugees who have been settled here. Another “compassionate conservative”.
glenn
7 days ago
MSNBC keeps trying to push that Cruz is ready to replace Trump. That’s like calling it garbage instead of trash.
AdLib7 days ago
clean coal?? LMAO
Harleigh
7 days ago
Hey Harleigh. How are you?
glenn
7 days ago
Hey Harleigh! Maybe Cheney will nominate himself again for President? Cheney/Jeb?
AdLib7 days ago
tired. started a new job and will work this weekend.
Harleigh
7 days ago
Harleigh–glad you made it here, then. I always love your humorous take on politics.
glenn
7 days ago
glenn – It will never happen! The MSM keeps hyping Trump by saying “many Americans are supporting him”. No! 9% of voters are supporting him right now. Without Latinos, blacks and women, it is impossible for him to win. Im-possible, in a “yuuuge” way!
AdLib7 days ago
Those two dummies are not as bad as some of the current whackdooddles sadly enough.
Harleigh
7 days ago
Ad–Cheney/Jeb? That’s a good one. At least this time, the bush would be in the right place! Then Trump can nominate Ben Carson for his vp in an independent run. Because all the blacks love trump! And carson too!
glenn
7 days ago
Ad–I know; I read an article today that is telling people to relax. Latest polls show that 59% of likely voters are against trump. Don’t know why we don’t hear that from the “liberal media”, though.
glenn
7 days ago
Yeah Harleigh, glad you made it!
AdLib7 days ago
“read an article online”
glenn
7 days ago
LOL Hi folks… without latinos, blacks and women the only election would be for Grand wizard of the klan. holy shit!
Harleigh
7 days ago
Harleigh–you may have to be more specific about which two dummies/wackadoodles you’re talking about.
glenn
7 days ago
Harleigh–well trump is increasing membership for all the white supremacy groups. That’s his base!
glenn
7 days ago
Hey Kes–how are you doing tonight?
glenn
7 days ago
Poor Repubs, they’re between a rock and a Trump Hotel. They’re terrified of him winning the nom so they won’t say they won’t support him, openly leaked that they’re still plotting against him at the convention and fearful that he’ll run as an indie and destroy the GOP. Damn, it’s good to be a Dem!
AdLib7 days ago
Happy Friday, kids! Just home from the Fave 14 year old’s dance recital, so I’ve missed all the news. What’s happening on the GOP good ship “Titanic”?
kesmarn
7 days ago
Palin/Bachmann. I been pushing that as satire since late November 2007. bimbo ticket.
Harleigh
7 days ago
Ad–even before trump, it was good to be a Dem, but yeah, it’s sweeter now!
Ad-yes, I saw that video. Must admit I watched it several times because I couldn’t stop laughing! What a putz!
glenn
7 days ago
Kes – You probably recognized that from Office Space, one of my favorite anytime films.
AdLib7 days ago
That eagle’s name is actually Uncle Samir, and he’s a Muslim-American eagle.
kesmarn
7 days ago
Kes –
AdLib7 days ago
LOL surprised he didn’t shoot it and claim ‘stand my ground’.
Harleigh
7 days ago
I believe that’s how trump would look when faced with another world leader; especially if that leader called him out on his lies.
glenn
7 days ago
Kes–good one!
glenn
7 days ago
Harleigh – All bullies are cowards, if Trump had a gun he’d have probably thrown it at Sam as he was diving for cover!
AdLib7 days ago
Next thing you know, trump will ban all eagles.
glenn
7 days ago
Thanks, glenn! You’re right — Putin would probably cause The Donald to require a change of Depends.
kesmarn
7 days ago
glenn – Agreed, Trump would wilt if faced with Putin…cowering more than he did in that video.
AdLib7 days ago
Kes–and the thing on top of trump’s head would probably start spinning!
glenn
7 days ago
he would shit his pants like a Nugent.
Harleigh
7 days ago
glenn – That’s a bird’s nest on top of Trump’s head, no surprise Sam wanted it.
AdLib7 days ago
Right! I don’t think I’ve ever seen Putin laugh, but that might do it.
kesmarn
7 days ago
Ad–LOL!
glenn
7 days ago
well i have to get some sleep and work tomorrow. nite folks
Harleigh
7 days ago
What annoys me is the faux-outrage and sanctimony from people like Paul Ryan now. As if they hadn’t created Trump.
kesmarn
7 days ago
Kes – I could imagine Putin faking a punch and Trump jumping backwards, falling into the Potomac.
AdLib7 days ago
Ad–did you see Jon Stewart on Colbert with his trump imitation? It was hysterical! And, mcconnell says he’ll now bring the Zagroda Act to the Senate floor, or attach it to something. As someone on one of the blogs said, the repubs will probably attach it to a poison bill.
glenn
7 days ago
Good night, Harl! Don’t work too hard!
kesmarn
7 days ago
Hey Peeps, what’s the rumpus?
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
Thanks for dropping by Harleigh! Hope all goes well this weekend!
AdLib7 days ago
‘Nite, Harleigh. Sleep well, and don’t work too hard tomorrow!
glenn
7 days ago
What up KT?
AdLib7 days ago
Hey, Homie! Just discussing The Donald and his latest.
kesmarn
7 days ago
Kes–Can’t believe we typed the same thing to Harleigh!
glenn
7 days ago
Not much, doing well. Hey Homie!
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
Hey KT–glad to hear you’re doing well.
glenn
7 days ago
I know, glenn! We do tend to do that!
kesmarn
7 days ago
How bout you glenn?
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
Does anybody still think Trump can win the nomination?
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
Anyone think Trump could win a General Election after this week? Nearly 60% of Americans outraged by his bigotry and only 25% (Repubs) supporting it?
AdLib7 days ago
KT–doing okay. Will be attending my mom’s memorial service this weekend, so…..
glenn
7 days ago
What annoys me is the faux-outrage and sanctimony of people like Paul Ryan. As if they hadn’t created Trump.
kesmarn
7 days ago
Hey! KT and I just wrote the same question! And he beat me!
AdLib7 days ago
Oh damn glenn. So sorry to hear that.
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
We have the doppelganger crew on Vox tonight!
kesmarn
7 days ago
Sorry glenn…
AdLib7 days ago
KT–if trump does win the nomination, I hope he loses by a yuuuge margin! And, if he does win the nomination, America is doomed; we might as well call ourselves the united states of dumasses!
glenn
7 days ago
glenn — I’m sorry to hear that this weekend will be a sad one for you. Many condolences.
kesmarn
7 days ago
Thanks, all. I so appreciate your kind thoughts.
glenn
7 days ago
Interesting times, for sure. It’s quite sad though to realize that so many people support a person like Trump. I shouldn’t really be surprised, though.
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
I will take any and all bets. There is absolutely no way Trump could win the Presidency. No way. Simple math. He needs to win 40% of Latinos, minimum. Game over right there. Then add blacks, Muslims, Asians, women…im-possible!
AdLib7 days ago
Trump really needs to win the Repub nom if we want the Tea Party lunatics marginalized in the GOP.
AdLib7 days ago
I don’t think he can win either, but one writer (I forget which — everyone’s been writing about him) said that although Trump might go away, Trumpism is here for the duration.
kesmarn
7 days ago
Ad–question. If trump does decide to run as an independent, would he have time after the repub convention to get on all the states’ ballots?
glenn
7 days ago
If Trump wins the presidency, it’s will only be because of a major shift in the space/time continuum.
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
Carson is now threatening to leave the GOP if there’s a brokered convention. There seem to be about 18 million cracks in their cardboard ceiling.
kesmarn
7 days ago
Kes–I agree, trumpism is here for the duration. Many pundits are saying that now that he has let the crazies all the way out of the bag, anyone else will seem “moderate” by comparison. Which, IMO, was the RNC’s plan all along. It just backfired on them. Poor babies.
glenn
7 days ago
Trumpism. Wow, that’s a depressing thought.
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
glenn, that is positively diabolical.
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
Kes – We saw plenty of racism and horrible human beings cheering Sarah Palin at her Nazi Rallies…er…stump speeches. I will never forget the man with a stuffed animal monkey with a noose around it’s neck and “Obama” written on its chest.
AdLib7 days ago
Right, glenn, the crazies are out of the bag. And there is a subset of poorly educated whites who are primed to go in that direction.
kesmarn
7 days ago
Kes–carson also says he won’t run as an independent, even if he does leave the gop. Just so sad (not).
glenn
7 days ago
I hear Carson doesn’t care for Hummus!
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
KT–no more diabolcal than the conspiracy plans the right is always hatching. OMG! It’s spreading!
glenn
7 days ago
Trumpism will continue amongst the loons but when it loses “yuugely”, it will be the badge of losers.
AdLib7 days ago
True dat.
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
Oh wow, AdLib! Somehow I’d missed that wacko with the monkey at the Palin rally. Creepy!
kesmarn
7 days ago
Kes–I think the primer has gone off! They’re no longer primed, they’re fired up!
glenn
7 days ago
glenn, I didn’t know Carson had said he wouldn’t run as an independent. That’s good. Although he wouldn’t have had a chance anyway.
kesmarn
7 days ago
glenn – Trump would have such a difficult time trying to run as an indie and he’d have to spend lots of his money just to get on ballots and have a 50 state campaign, he’ll never go indie. He won’t need to, I think he can win the GOP nom. Thank goodness!
AdLib7 days ago
Ad and Kes–palin probably gave that monkey to the audience member.
glenn
7 days ago
KT – Carson is afraid of being attacked by Hummus and Icees.
AdLib7 days ago
Carson never had a chance to begin with. The GOPers would NEVER elect a black man.
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
Right, glenn. Either that or the woman who told McCain Obama was a Mooslem.
kesmarn
7 days ago
Ad–you really think the gop will endorse trump as a candidate? WOW! If they do, they have really gone off the deep end!
glenn
7 days ago
Is Carson black, Homie?
kesmarn
7 days ago
Well, I hear ICES can give you brain freeze. That hurts, man!
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
Yeah Kes. He’s the black Mr. Rodgers. Won’t you be my neighbor?
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
Homie! I feel the need to defend Mr. Rogers now!
kesmarn
7 days ago
My apologies to Fred.
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
LOL! Fred would never get mad anyway. Donald should have watched a little more Mr. Roger’s and a little less Three Stooges.
kesmarn
7 days ago
glenn – What choice will they have? If Trump wins the nom outright or has the biggest number of delegates by a big margin, if they pull a bait and switch, that 25% supporting Trump won’t vote Repub.
AdLib7 days ago
Ad–if trump wins the gop nom, and Hillary wins the Dem nom, it will be a shit-filled campaign. Also, I think a lot of Dems will stay home if Hillary is the nom, so trump might come closer that predicted to winning. After all, repubs took Congress because of Dem voters’ apathy.
glenn
7 days ago
KT – I’m so enjoying Carson crashing and burning in the polls. He was so full of himself when his numbers were up. Almost as enjoyable as watching Bush at 5%!
AdLib7 days ago
Dems do tend to come out more in presidential elections, though…
kesmarn
7 days ago
oops, “closer than predicted”.
glenn
7 days ago
Kes–maybe. But a lot of Dems are not enamored of Hillary. And, if she beats out Bernie, his supporters may stay home out of spite. As my grandmother used to say, they’ll cut off their noses to spite their face!
glenn
7 days ago
glenn, all this rabid hatred of Hillary by so many “progressives,” does worry me. These idiots are willing to let the country go to shit by letting a repub win. All for ideological purity. Stupid, stupid, stupid.
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
glenn – Not at all, with the spectre of Trump in a GE, Dems will be coming out of the woodwork to vote! Latinos will be all over this, liberals/Progressives, all minorities, all those who don’t want to go to war or keep all Muslims out. Dems will be very motivated, most Repubs will be discouraged.
AdLib7 days ago
Has anyone seen this Amazon series, “The Man In The High Castle”? About how the US would have looked if Hitler had won WWII? Very timely.
kesmarn
7 days ago
Have you seen any of it kes?
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
glenn, my grandmother used to say the same thing! (Nose/face)
kesmarn
7 days ago
My mom used to say it a lot.
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
KT–I agree. IMO, those for “ideological purity” are no different than tea partiers. I thought Dems were supposed to be reasonable and willing to compromise to look at the bigger issues.
glenn
7 days ago
Homie, I’ve seen four episodes. It’s very good.
kesmarn
7 days ago
Thanks Homie, I’ll have to check it out. It is an interesting concept.
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
Ad–hope you’re right about Dems coming out of the woodwork. It would also be nice to see indies supporting a Dem nom, too.
glenn
7 days ago
glenn – Not from what I’ve seen around the web. When Repub trolls post comments about how Bernie supporters won’t vote for Hillary and Trump will win, Bernie supporters fall out of the trees saying that they will vote for Hillary especially because they won’t accept helping Trump (or any Repub) getting in. Dems will be more motivated than 2008, I’ll bet on that!
AdLib7 days ago
Fascinating. I got an offer for a free 30 trial of Amazon Prime — otherwise I wouldn’t be able to afford it!
kesmarn
7 days ago
Just the smart ones glenn. Unfortunately, there seems to be some cry babies in the dem party too.
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
Ad–in a betting mood tonight, aren’t you? I hope you’re right.
glenn
7 days ago
Kes – Wish I could see it, Kes! Not much on Amazon I want to see but I would really want to see that!
AdLib7 days ago
I’m a Bernie person, at this point and most (but not all) of my friends say they’ll vote for Hillary if she’s the nominee.
kesmarn
7 days ago
glenn – You bet I am!
AdLib7 days ago
Ad, that has not quite been my experience. I have seen a lot of comments from normally progressive views swear they’ll never vote for Hillary. It’s a bit troubling.
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
Alright, folks. Time for me to call it a night. Hope everyone has a good weekend. Hopefully, I’ll see you all next week. Take care!
glenn
7 days ago
Good night glenn. Sorry for your troubles.
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
G’night, glenn. Peace and blessings at that memorial service.
kesmarn
7 days ago
Seeya glenn, will be thinking of you this weekend, sending all my most positive thoughts.
AdLib7 days ago
Kids, I may have to call it a day as well, It’s supposed to be in the mid-60s here! So this weekend might be the time to get some outdoor Christmas decorations up. Have a wonderful weekend!
kesmarn
7 days ago
KT – Many of those are Repub trolls, trying to promote that opinion. There will be a small fraction of purists, far less than the PUMAs that vowed to vote for McCain if Hillary lost. No Bernie supporters will do that with Trump.
AdLib7 days ago
Later Homie. Good plan.
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
Night Kes, sleep well!
AdLib7 days ago
kesmarn
7 days ago
Not so fast!
AdLib7 days ago
Or should I say, that’s being fast asleep?
AdLib7 days ago
Not the commenters I’m referring to. They are normally quite progressive. I’m familiar with many of them.
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
KT – Progressives can be purists too. Look at all the ones attacking Obama over the past 7 years.
AdLib7 days ago
The loudest voices are the fewest, the ones loudly proclaiming they won’t vote for Hillary don’t represent a lot of Bernie supporters. We have many here at The Planet, I know many and that sentiment is only reflected in a tiny minority because most Progressives are smart.
AdLib7 days ago
Oh, no doubt. They remind me of a lot of gay people who were pissed at Obama because they thought he wasn’t doing enough for their cause. It’s the same childish attitude. What worries me is that they don’t seem to realize just how important it is to keep the white house.
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
It wouldn’t take a whole lot of them to screw up a dem victory, I’m afraid.
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
KT – There have been gay purists who attacked Obama…before he came through on everything for them! And those who said they wanted health care laws changed…but of course Obama was evil and didn’t magically make the Congress vote for Single Payer. On and on but they are such a tiny portion of Dems.
AdLib7 days ago
I hope you’re right Ad. A republican victory would be catastrophic, literally.
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
Well, it seems the party is over for this evening. Have a great weekend Ad.
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
KT – Don’t forget, it’s all about electoral votes and Dems start off with a huge advantage. Then getting an even bigger percenatge of Latino votes?
AdLib7 days ago
That’s encouraging.
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
Any Dem will mop up in electoral votes against Trump! Especially with Latinos, blacks and Muslims all motivated like never before against a bigot becoming President. And we’ll take back the Senate.
AdLib7 days ago
Hey money men
funksands
7 days ago
Anyone still rattling around in here/
funksands
7 days ago
?
funksands
7 days ago
Hey Funk!
AdLib7 days ago
hey yourself! Sorry I’m so late. Been pretty crazy around here. Happy holidays
funksands
7 days ago
Just glad you’re having a happy holidays!
AdLib7 days ago
Thanks man. How’s the fan?
funksands
7 days ago
Fam?
funksands
7 days ago
Folks left a little early tonight. That’s how it often is around the holidays!
AdLib7 days ago
Very true. I’d planned on stopping by for 15-20 minutes myself. You and the family staying around for xmas or traveling?
funksands
7 days ago
All are well, my daughter has an injured finger from sports but you’d never know it, she’s living the life. Wife is working away, busy time of year for her. All well but a little hectic my way.
AdLib7 days ago
We’ll be here, how about you and the Funk Fam?
AdLib7 days ago
I feel you. Well…..just got my wife back from 4 days in the hospital….at the exact same time my oldest was in the hospital for 3 days. I must have violated a tomb at some point in the recent past.
funksands
7 days ago
What the hell? I told you not to host MMA in your living room?
AdLib7 days ago
But they are all well-ish and in no danger. It’s great to have the house full of people again.
funksands
7 days ago
Are they both well?
AdLib7 days ago
And it’s good it’s before the holidays!
AdLib7 days ago
Yep. Esophageal Hernia surgery for the wife, collapsed lung for the son. He was able to avoid surgery. Hers wasn’t complex or dangerous, just very painful.
funksands
7 days ago
Had to call in some favors to figure out how to be in three places at once for a few days.
funksands
7 days ago
Whoa! One at a time, was this a while coming on for your wife? And how did your son get a collapsed lung? Holy Mackeral!
AdLib7 days ago
But they knew what they signed up for when they married me and the MMA life…
funksands
7 days ago
The only thing that stops a good family with a flying sidekick is…making contact with each other.
AdLib7 days ago
Ad, it was very sudden for both. One night she’s sitting on the couch and then starts complaining of pain more intense than childbirth, next thing I know she’s slated for surgery to repair her digestive track. The next night the son starts complaining of intense pain in his ribcage, next thing I know he’s in the hospital with a chest tube. So damn inconsiderate of both of them.
funksands
7 days ago
Anyway, glad I could catch you briefly. Have a great weekend and hope to see you next friday!
funksands
7 days ago
So sorry, Funk! My brother-in-law had the same condition but is was gradual. But your son, that’s out of the blue!
AdLib7 days ago
Hey PPO!
AdLib7 days ago
Hey, ad! Looks like I’ve missed the main event. anything interesting, other than Hitler 2.0?
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
That was the main topic, Trump Heil!
AdLib7 days ago
Folks were coming and going tonight, it’s a holiday thing.
AdLib7 days ago
Oh, how I wish that man would just GO AWAY!
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
Holiday?
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
As I’ve said, he’s actually the best thing that could happen for Dems. Destroying the GOP and when he loses, damaging the influence of the Tea Party.
AdLib7 days ago
Holiday time that is.
AdLib7 days ago
there is that, but destroying the credibility of the US is too high a price to pay.
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
He’s not doing that, we have Repubs and Dems condemning him. And we did have Sarah Palin as the actual VP candidate!
AdLib7 days ago
He’s just a circus Barker, full of bumph and brio, but utterly empty
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
Every country has extremists, they understand. You’ve got a couple in Australia. Just two though.
AdLib7 days ago
I don’t think he fools anyone but the ignorant Repub base.
AdLib7 days ago
BTW, my daughter almost was going on an exchange student trip to Australia but the dates didn’t work.
AdLib7 days ago
Saw Peggy Noonan on CBS this morning spouting that Trump actually has a point about immigration examinations.
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
Pity about your daughter. She would enjoy herself here. It’s great for young people.
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
Noonan is a party slave and has been for a long time. She knows how to make stupidity seem less stupid.
AdLib7 days ago
She didn’t do a very good job, thank God!
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
The trip is to Melbourne.
AdLib7 days ago
well, I’ll let you hit the hay. Hope to contribute more next week in my own little way. take care.
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
Where I live!
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
You almost got to meet MissLib!
AdLib7 days ago
Wish she could go but it’s a bad week for her.
AdLib7 days ago
Awwww, shoot. Well, if she ever makes it down under to this neck of the woods, let me know in time so maybe we can meet up. Gotta see what sort of lady you’ve produced!
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
She’s quite remarkable! An athlete and a character…which I’m sure you’d never have guessed.
AdLib7 days ago
never in a mill! the fruit’s fallen not far from the tree, obviously. Well better go. Good night and take care
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
Thanks! Best to you and have a great rest of your weekend!
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