Vox Populi – 9-4-2015

Good evening, Ad. Can I say, “Free Kim Davis—NOT!” or, just Hi. How are you?

glenn

Hey Ad– I was a little “late” this evening because I was watching the video of our charming President dancing with the kids in Alaska. Have you seen it? I just love how genuine President comes across. As we were discussing last week, such a stark contrast to Hillary’s public personna.

glenn

All well my way, Ad. My pineapple and orchids are growing well.

glenn

Hey peeps!

KillgoreTrout

Hey KT!

glenn

Orchids are tough to grow, are they not?

KillgoreTrout

Evening all – hope everyone is well?

choicelady

hey kids!

Harleigh

glenn – I have two orchids w no flowers. Can they be saved?

choicelady

Say Ad, and glenn. Harleigh. and CL.

KillgoreTrout

Hi KT!

choicelady

KT–If I can grow them, they can’t be too tough. My husband started them; but I have managed to keep them alive for almost six years now.

glenn

Hey AdLib – how are YOU?

choicelady

Well done glenn.

KillgoreTrout

glenn – that is amazing!

choicelady

Hey CL, Harleigh.

glenn

do you have a greenhouse?

KillgoreTrout

Busy, AdLib – hanging in though.

choicelady

CL–Have you tried orchid food? What kind of a medium do you have them in? Are they in sunshine? All flowering plants have to have a good amount of sunshine.

glenn

glenn – it’s filtered light, but I am going to add orchid food. They seem alive, just without any flower at the moment.

choicelady

my wife has about 50 orchids, no 2 are alike

Harleigh

Hi Harleigh – didn’t say hi right at first. How are you? That’s amazing about your wife’s orchids.

choicelady

Ad–only one pineapple plant that I brought to GA with me. Once again, my husband started it and we got one pineapple from the plant while he was still alive. I just brought the plant up here with me for sentimental reasons; I never expected it to produce another pineapple. I’m hoping to start another plant from this pineapple. I have to research how to do it; but I’m going to try my best!

glenn

I see Huckabee and Jindal are defending the mad country clerk. It never ceases to amaze me that such stupid people can raise to such heights in this country.

KillgoreTrout

we are in orchid growing mecca

Harleigh

AdLib – Huck? Rand? LOLOLOLOLOL!!!!

choicelady

no Ad, you’d be condemned as a liberal, commie, socialist scumbag.

KillgoreTrout

KT–No I don’t have a greenhouse. The plants are outside in the summer; and I put them under my grown light in the winter. Don’t know what I’ll do this winter, because they are all to tall to go under the light. Have to rearrage my furniture in my sunroom so they’ll be in direct sunlight.

glenn

KT – I’d not call the clerk of that dismal county ‘rising to heights’ but she DOES earn $80K per year.

choicelady

CL, no, I meant the Huckster and Jindal.

KillgoreTrout

Harleigh–Good for her. I love the variety of orchids.

glenn

KT – Oh man – THAT is the truth!

choicelady

Hello Everybody!

monicaangela

Hi Monicaangela! Nice to see you!

choicelady

even Lindsey Graham could know enough to admit this clerk was in the wrong.

KillgoreTrout

Hi all, funny post today KT

sillylittleme

Hey Monica!

KillgoreTrout

Funny how jobs that were low paying gubmint jobs are now the best in whats left of murikkka

Harleigh

Hi SLM – lovely to see you!

choicelady

Thanks slm.

KillgoreTrout

Hello Choice Lady!

monicaangela

Hey KT

monicaangela

Ad–Saw a “sign” in a driver’s license office that says women will not be issued driver’s licenses because the head of the office is a Muslim. Same difference.

glenn

Hi AdLib

monicaangela

AdLib – I think you know. You’d be the ‘wrong kind’ of religious liberty person.

choicelady

Hi Choice, how goes it?

sillylittleme

hey monica!

Harleigh

glenn – that IS a joke sign, but the point was good.

choicelady

Hey Harleigh

monicaangela

SLM – it goes. Too busy by half, but OK.

choicelady

Choice – that means you’re livin”

sillylittleme

Hi Monicaangela; Hi SLM. Hope you are both well.

glenn

This idiot clerk has been compared to Rosa Parks, by the fundies. I’d say she’s more like the bus driver who tols Rosa to sit in the back

KillgoreTrout

Hi Glenn -well enough (a little head cold) how are things by you?

sillylittleme

What’s the hot topic tonight? Is anybody discussing the Hillary Clinton interview with Andrea Mitchell?

monicaangela

Hi Glenn!

monicaangela

SLM – yikes – is THAT the definition? I got up at 2:30 this morning to drive a homeless friend to the bus station. I can do that – I just dont recover well! Overslept this morning, funny thing…

choicelady

I haven’t seen it yet Monica. How was it?

KillgoreTrout

CL–Yeah, I knew it was a joke; but then so again is the clerk in KY.

glenn

AdLib – no, they’d NEVER suppor ‘sharia’ in America even though the propagate it.

choicelady

KT, it was a really good interview…..GO BERNIE!!!!!

monicaangela

glenn !!!! That is SO TRUE! My boss, a Methodist minister, said she’s doing this to divert attention from her own totally screwed up life!

choicelady

Where can I check it out Monica? MSNBC?

KillgoreTrout

Choice – anything we do is livin’ whether it is well or not depends

sillylittleme

SLM – that is true.

choicelady

Hey B

sillylittleme

Hey Beatlex! Good to see you!

choicelady

Yes KT, it was on MSNBC, you can probably check it out on Youtube

monicaangela

CL–Also saw a post comparing sharia law and republican beliefs and they are the same. So, we don’t have to worry about sharia law; if repubs get their way, we’ll have it!

glenn

So the Donald is going rogue! That mean radio guy asked him a gotcha question! You can’t make stuff like that up,LOL

Beatlex

glenn – yup. But it will be for Jeeeeezussss.

choicelady

this clerk is being put up to her nonsense by the Family Research Council and another fundie group that does the legal wrangling for her. It’s really a lame ass revolt against the SC’s recent decision on same sex marriage. They’re wasting their time and money though. The SC’s decision is final, and they aren’t going to hear anymore challenges.

KillgoreTrout

Every MSNBC talking head has used Hillary’s interview as the topic for their entire show.

monicaangela

Beatlex – I think it’s pathetic The Donald thinks being asked foreign policy questions is a ‘gotcha’. That man is dumb as a post.

choicelady

Monicaangela and also SLM–I really love the things Bernie says. I also love the way he won’t let the media bait him into talking bad about Hillary and other candidates. He seems like a genuine human being.like our current President.

glenn

The Donald is nothing but egotistical bluster.

KillgoreTrout

Hey Pink

sillylittleme

KT – I think The Donald is worse than that – I think he’s a genuine fascist.

choicelady

Hey PPO!

choicelady

well, that too.

KillgoreTrout

Hi Beatlex. I was typing and missed you coming in.

glenn

Which one’s Pink?

KillgoreTrout

Morning all!

pinkpantheroz

monica, they have always done that,did you hear the Reverand Al show is going off the air at that time slot?

Beatlex

Glenn – we won’t have sharia law, no usury

sillylittleme

Hey Pink.

glenn

what’s the buzz today?

pinkpantheroz

AdLib – she was correct that this is what you’d expect from terrorists NOT from Americans. Spot ON.

choicelady

Allo’ everyone,nice to be back!

Beatlex

Glenn – you’re right about Bernie

sillylittleme

Hey, beatlex, Ad,

pinkpantheroz

SLM–LOL–we have to make sure greed stays in our laws, don’t we?

glenn

glenn – of course

sillylittleme

Oh, god, we’re not still blathering on about Rooster Cogburn, are we?

pinkpantheroz

Despite the Supreme Court’s decision, anti-miscegenation laws remained on the books in several states, although the decision had made them unenforceable. Local judges in Alabama continued to enforce that state’s anti-miscegenation statute until the Nixon administration obtained a ruling from a U.S. District Court in United States v. Brittain in 1970.[14][15] In 2000, Alabama became the last state to adapt its laws to the Supreme Court’s decision, when 60% of voters endorsed a ballot initiative that removed anti-miscegenation language from the state constitution

monicaangela

It stands to reason there will be those that will continue to try to oppose marriage equality. Problem..it’s a done deal!

monicaangela

Rooster Cogburn? you mean Annie Wilkes?

KillgoreTrout

MA =- I was aware of those laws. The nullification/10th Amendment folks refuse to give up and cede the federal supremacy issues.

choicelady

PPO–who is rooster cogburn? I mean, I know the film, but which one of our current crop of clowns are you referring to?

glenn

Adlib,I have been going through some medical tests,I have not been well for a while,I think we have it sorted out

Beatlex

Ya MA AL is a bit slow on the uptake

sillylittleme

Beatlex – I hope you’re OK?? That is awful – I’m sorry you’re going through that.

choicelady

I could see Huckabee as Foghorn Leghorn!

KillgoreTrout

Beatlex–hope everything is sorted out and you are on the road to being better.

glenn

KT – Huck isn’t that FUNNY!

choicelady

CL, that big white Rooster who never shuts up, with the funny red comb on his head, a la the donald.

pinkpantheroz

Be well B, hasty recovery

sillylittleme

True dat, CL. Not intentionally anyway.

KillgoreTrout

FOGHORN LEGHORN I meant!!

pinkpantheroz

Sad isn’t it CL..I suppose it will be that way for as long as we continue to live under a system that refuses to challenge fringe groups.

monicaangela

PPO – I do agree, but Foghorn could make you laugh, The Donald makes my teeth grit.

choicelady

KT–I could see Huckabee as Neil Diamond’s “Brother Love’s Traveling Salvation Show”.

glenn

SLM, I missed your comment on Al, could you repeat?

monicaangela

What was the name of that movie where Steve Martin played a travelling preacher?

KillgoreTrout

MA – oh, the mainstream Christian groups HAVE challenged the religious right and then some. And for our pains we get ignored by the MSM and stalked by the right.

choicelady

KT – Leap of Faith. It was a very fine movie.

choicelady

MA I was just saying that Alabama is a bit slow to deal with modernity.

sillylittleme

CL,it took them a long time to diagnose it.But l have been on my program for a week,and I am feeling better everyday

Beatlex

SLM, yeah, like ab out 200 years late!

pinkpantheroz

No surprise there CL. The truth can’t come out in the open. Fundie Heaven forbid

KillgoreTrout

Beatlex – that is excellent news! First step is having GOOD doctors! I’m so glad it’s working for you.

choicelady

Absolutely Glenn…I can’t understand how those same people that are complaining are the ones that are heavily against Sharia law, yet they feel somehow what they are doing is in some way different, or not the same. Unbelievable what we have to deal with in the country.

monicaangela

B, are you talking about COPD?

KillgoreTrout

KT – during the days marriage equality was legal in CA before Prop. 8, many progressive people of faith showed up at the courthouse to celebrate. MSM interveiewed extremists and ignored us. TOTALLY.

choicelady

MA – what is done in the name of Jesus is radically different (exactly the same) as what is done wrongly in the name of Mohammed (pbuh).

choicelady

Of course Choice, they’re paid to keep it divisive.

sillylittleme

the more radical the more msm likes it

Harleigh

MA–The stupidity of some of these so-called christians is unbelievable. It just blows my mind.

glenn

That sucks, CL. We have a seriously flawed media in this country. They’re practically all owned by the powers that be.

KillgoreTrout

SLM – that they are.

choicelady

It is treatable,it is IBS(irritable bowel syndrome,I am making some diet choices and cutting down on coffee(ouch)!

Beatlex

Amazing isn’t it CL, that is exactly why anybody with a conscience that is watching can tell this is all a farce on the part of the corrupted Christians.

monicaangela

Ad I read that as panty

sillylittleme

Beatlex – I had to remove ALL grains to get some health. Might try going Paleo which isn’t awful, just isn’t good.

choicelady

IBS is a pain, Beat. Sorry you have it. My lady suffers as well and it does cramp ones style a lot

pinkpantheroz

Harleigh–that’s why Sanders doesn’t get any press. All he does is talk about the issues and refuse to bash his fellow candidates. And dumb-ass trump gets all the attention.

glenn

B, if it’s any consolation, beer works wonders.

KillgoreTrout

glenn – I see a lot of media stuff on Bernie. I do respect his sticking with issues, but at least here in CA he gets attention.

choicelady

B chamomile tea can be a satisfying replacement for coffee

sillylittleme

I wouldn’t be so sure AdLib, who would have believed the Repubs would take the house and senate in the 2012 elections?

monicaangela

Oz,my symptoms were bad,I would get very ill on too many days the last 9 months

Beatlex

CL–good to hear Sanders is getting attention somewhere.

glenn

Monica, they won because the Dems didn’t GOTV enough

pinkpantheroz

B, you can also try Valerian Root. One or two capsules a nigh, before bed.

KillgoreTrout

Chamomile tea is a great thing to use for inflamation, and problems due to stress.

monicaangela

MA – I am not surprised. Too many lazy people think they don’t have to vote if the Congressional rep isn’t pure enough. Votes are yours but not JUST about you – it’s about the nation. Too many don’t vote. Dem turnout was WAy DOWN IN 2010, 14.

choicelady

i don’t understand how sanders can run as a dem… he is not. cruz was born to foreign national in canada. wrong

Harleigh

NOT giving up the suds KT! Everything in moderation though

Beatlex

That could be correct PPO, also too, the dems didn’t go to the polls enough and then there is that little dirty gerrymandering secret that continues to be kicked under the rug.

monicaangela

Harleigh – supposedly Cruz’s mother is American citizen, but I hear she wasn’t born here. I’m unsure he DOES qualify as a natural born citizen due to that.

choicelady

Harleigh–yet a majority of repubs believe that President Obama was not born in the US and that teddycruz was! What a bunch of morans!

glenn

Harleigh, you can register as anything you want. Bernie basically registered as a dem so he could debate Hillary and hopefully move the conversation more to the left.

KillgoreTrout

Adlib,I will google that later

Beatlex

MA – the DOJ challenged and won several gerrymandering cases lately. That’s hopeful.

choicelady

CL–I thought the issue with cruz’s mother is that she wasn’t in the US long enough before he was born. Something about being in the US so many years after your 14th birthday, or something along those lines.

glenn

That is correct CL, I sure hope that those who didn’t vote have learned their lesson, and come out in full force this time. I will be doing everything I can to remind them of Ferguson and what not voting can allow people to accomplish when you refuse to remain vigilant.

monicaangela

floriduh got some of it fixed… but you can’t fix stupid.

Harleigh

glenn – something like that. Who can keep up with the weirdnesses of Ted Cruz?

choicelady

MA – it’s not just the president. It MUST be the Congress, too!

choicelady

cruz is the new Santorum. Same old crazy, just new face. And what a face. Owww!

KillgoreTrout

carson is not connected to reality

Harleigh

KT – I never thought I’d find it, but Cruz is WORSE than Santorum.

choicelady

Harleigh, not many of them are!

pinkpantheroz

Ad–I understand what you’re saying; there is no way that if trump is NOT the nominee, that the nominee can “walk back” all of trump’s nonsense. If s/he wants to keep trump’s “base”, that is.

glenn

AdLib – I just read one (only one) article saying we might get back the House, too.

choicelady

CL, I’m hoping the DOJ will remain vigilant on this issue after President Obamas administration is out of office. I hope the next presidents cabinet continues the job.

monicaangela

You may be right CL. He’s crazier than a shithouse rat.

KillgoreTrout

MA – if any Dem wins, I think we’re safe for a time.

choicelady

Thank you for the correction AdLib, I meant 2014.

monicaangela

ppo this is the most bizarre cast of klowns ever

Harleigh

Is Cruz a Dominionist? It wouldn’t surprise me.

KillgoreTrout

KT – evangelical I think

sillylittleme

2014 was the lowest turnout since 1943

Harleigh

BRB

glenn

slm, I’m quite sure of the difference.

KillgoreTrout

I am not moving to Israel to fulfill some BS prophecy!!

sillylittleme

NOT quite sure

KillgoreTrout

CL, A dem just has to win this time, whichever dem wins the nomination. There is too much riding on this election. Just think about the Supreme Court and the Justices that reside there.

monicaangela

Haqrleigh, they get so much coverage, that clowns are the new norm now, God help us

pinkpantheroz

KT – me neither

sillylittleme

slm, take your AK47 with you.

KillgoreTrout

MA – absolutely. I think more and more we have to stress that whoever gets the Dem nom we all have to vote for him or her.

choicelady

Anyone else think that Joe should take a run at the nomination?

Beatlex

Beatlex – I seriously like Joe. Not sure about the impact at all.

choicelady

Beat, I’d love him to, but I think he’d be too fragile

pinkpantheroz

I like to call bush, Yeb!

KillgoreTrout

KT – nah the Davide is better and is made in Israel, I’d probably go for an uzi too!!

sillylittleme

KT, Cruz is a Dominionist, so is his father.

monicaangela

kinda makes my old HP ticket of palin – bachmann for jebus look a little better by comparison.

Harleigh

AdLib – we, the descendants of immigrants, never had tests to come in. No such laws until 1952. So ALL of us owe citizenship to ‘anchor babies’ if the immigrants did not get naturalized.

choicelady

B – I voted for him in the primary a while back, I don’t think he really wants to run.

sillylittleme

MA – that’s accurate. Daddy Cruz is loopier than Palin.

choicelady

Monica, that surely makes him a dangerous man.

KillgoreTrout

monica no, they are a-wholes,pardon my spanish!

Beatlex

KT – Cruz and his father are the most extreme extremists I’ve ever seen. Make Perry look sane.

choicelady

Damn, I wish Christopher Hitchens was still living. And Hunter S. Thompson.

KillgoreTrout

I don’t personally feel Joe should run, unless he feels he has to because he won’t have another chance in the future. I think it would be too much for him and his family after all they have been through lately.

monicaangela

I hear Cruz had a rectum transplant, and it rejected him.

pinkpantheroz

PPO – so that means all Cruz is an asshole?

choicelady

HAHA! Good one PPO. I think his head got in the way.

KillgoreTrout

B, I thought the two words were interchangeable.

monicaangela

CL, Yup!

pinkpantheroz

PPO – thank you for the confirmation. That was MY observation!

choicelady

Actually PPO, the transplant grew and what you see is what became of Cruz after it took over.

monicaangela

I still think Cruz in a fit of despair will follow Joe McCarthy into the dustbin of history…

sillylittleme

I wish that they could all do a backflip and disappear up their assholes.

Harleigh

MA – LOL!! What scares me about Cruz is how much his zealotry resembles McCarthy who he looks like.

choicelady

slm, maybe, but look at the carnage McC left in his wake

pinkpantheroz

They will Harleigh, in time. Not soon enough though.

KillgoreTrout

Yep KT, he’s a dangerous Canadian.

monicaangela

SLM – McCarthy got called out in public. So far no one has done it to Teddy.

choicelady

Pink – true but we became a much better country because of it

sillylittleme

Monica, I never thought I’d see the words dangerous Canadian, ever.

KillgoreTrout

PPO – as a very little kid I was afraid of McCarthy. Scary man.

choicelady

I was born in Calgary…AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

Beatlex

CL, exactly…I thought I was the only one who noticed that resemblance.

monicaangela

AdLib – I don’t think Biden is the same man he once was.

choicelady

Ted Cruz, Magician he was ther. He did his famous role. he stuck his head between his legs. and vanishred up his hole

pinkpantheroz

Beatles – and you HAD to send Cruz here, right? Thanks for NOTHING.

choicelady

CL, is Joe, trans-sexual?

KillgoreTrout

PPO! That’s GREAT!

choicelady

You know how it is KT, I’m still trying to find his mother’s birthcertificate…if I don’t, I’m going to consider him a dangerous Canadian.

monicaangela

Ad, in reality, isn’t every human “naturalized?”

KillgoreTrout

B, you know what I’m talking about then.

monicaangela

There are rumors that The Donald’s mother, Scottish by birth, was not a naturalized citizen. So HE is an anchor baby.

choicelady

cruz mom was canadian citizen when he was born.

Harleigh

CL,I sure do!

Beatlex

KT – it IS about ONLY citizenship. Odd terms as AdLib notes.

choicelady

the Democratic Branch of the Birther Movement will now come to order!

pinkpantheroz

MA–that is a good point. Has anyone ever seen cruz’s mother’s birth certificate, and also when she moved to Canada?

glenn

AdLib – you have summed up the entire GOP platform.

choicelady

Like Bill Maher comically claimed, Tump’s mother was an orangutan.

KillgoreTrout

Oh my goodness, Trump an Anchor baby….Say is isn’t so CL, say it isn’t so. By the way, his daughter might be considered anchor babies too.

monicaangela

MA – I have no idea if Ivana and his current wife are US citizens.

choicelady

Choice – and Trump was born in the Bahamas, I think

sillylittleme

rubio claimed he was a refugee for years!

Harleigh

SLM – was he? I did not know that.

choicelady

Glenn, there is a team of people trying to find any information as to when she moved from the U.S. to Canada…the information she gave has proven to be untrue.

monicaangela

Harleigh – his family came to the US BEFORE Fidel. Refugee my ass.

choicelady

Yes they are Ad, unless you’re talking about boarders. Now that would be unnatural.

KillgoreTrout

no shit cl!

Harleigh

MA–saw a post about trump’s daughters being “anchor babies” and a rwnj says they’re not because their mothers were legal immigrants; not illegal.

glenn

CL, they were not, I don’t know if either has become a citizen in the recent past, but as long as he was married to the first one she wasn’t, and the second one was not born in the U.S.

monicaangela

Trump was born on June 14, 1946, in the borough of Queens in New York City.

pinkpantheroz

glenn – since no ‘anchor baby’ could begin the process for family until they are 21, it’s hardly a help anyway.

choicelady

Glenn – by legal they mean married a rich man

sillylittleme

PPO – Queens? That alone should exclude him!

choicelady

Rubio is known here in Flori-duh as ‘Rubitard’, a chronic liar about his past and just about everything else. His parents came to Miami in 1956 years before Castro came to power in 1959. He has always claimed to be a ‘Refugee’ or ‘son of refugees’ although he was born in the US in 1971! Anchor baby. Much of his support is from non-English speaking third/fourth generation ‘refugees’ that have turned much of Miami into a Spanish only speaking Cuban ghetto. Castro has always played the US like a Caribbean steel drum by unloading Cuba’s prisons, hospitals and asylums into Miami. That is the reason Miami usually tops the list of worst cities to live in murikkka. If relations are normalized all the hundreds of thousands of Cubans in the US would no longer be ‘refugees’ and would lose their free benefits and have to go on welfare and medicaid as well if they don’t work. Rubio is just totally full of guano and bullshit. If the wannabe war pwezadant wants to cancel the agreement 15 months after it is in place then the other signatories are not obligated to either support a war or replace any sanctions. Iran is not another 3rd world country or weak like Iraq. We would lose yet another war. Murikkka has not won a war since 1945.

Harleigh

Rubio=Aquaman. Rand Paul=Aqua-Buddha!

KillgoreTrout

Glenn, Trump is saying that even if an immigrant is legal, has a green card or is here with a visa, their children should not gain automatic citizenship…what’s good for the goose.

monicaangela

KT – do I see an aqua conspiracy here?

choicelady

Hey may, Ad. Of course that would make them very hard to round up and deport.

KillgoreTrout

MA – that is so un American. We gave citizenship to HIS family.

choicelady

MA–what you are saying is logical; there is no logic related to trump supporters.

glenn

CL, LOL!

KillgoreTrout

AdLib – bet they all wear Aqua Velva.

choicelady

Good, CL, then we can sniff them out! Oh the horror, the horror!

KillgoreTrout

a tune?

Beatlex

CL–the aqua conspiracy is part of the “wet foot, dry foot” policy, I think.

glenn

CL…..We….?

monicaangela

All – this is entirely about RACE. The problem is that in the 19th C. my ancestors of English descent thought E. Europeans and those from the Mediterranean were NOT white. Wrong then. These doofuses are wrong now.

choicelady

MA – the US.

choicelady

You have a point there Glenn…;\

monicaangela

You have a point there glenn

monicaangela

glenn – that is probably the main issue. HOW did you get here. My forebears walked into the US before Ellis Island. No papers.

choicelady

They still believe jebus was a anglo saxon, nearly a thosand years before there was such a thing!

Harleigh

Harleigh – you can’t fool Megyn Kelly. She’s seen the blonde Jesus photos.

choicelady

harleigh…….. with blue eyes

pinkpantheroz

b, love me some Lou Reed! He was man not afraid to speak the truth…out loud.

KillgoreTrout

Speaking of how did you get here, what about all of the people that were here before any of us came. What about the 5 million that were already here that were all but anihilated? From 5 million to 250,000. We, none of us should say anything about people who wish to migrate to this nation. Of course we do prefer they do it legally by showing up at one of the Reservations to ask permission…something I’m sure will be granted.

monicaangela

CL–not only how you got here, but what skin color you have.

glenn

MA spot on

sillylittleme

MA – but Trump said they did not properly ‘assimilate’ to their conquerors.

choicelady

glenn… and now what religion you follow

pinkpantheroz

MA–echoing SLM’s comment–spot on!

glenn

KillgoreTrout

Brilliant, KT!

pinkpantheroz

glenn – that’s entirely the issue – WASPs thought other Europeans were NOT white due to darker skin. And it just goes on and on and on.

choicelady

megyn is beautiful and will say absolutely anything for the price they pay her. same for dana perino. I wonder if they actually believe the phony bs they read off the teleprompter

Harleigh

KT – always loved that poster!

choicelady

PPO–of course, I forgot about the religion!

glenn

Thanks PPO!

KillgoreTrout

Second what Pink said

sillylittleme

Okay CL, that’s better…I was beginning to believe I had taken on a job that I am not willing to execute…oops, that sounds a little like the Marriage License Nazi doesn’t it.

monicaangela

MA – LOL!!

choicelady

LOL Monica!

KillgoreTrout

NO MARRIAGE FOR YOU!!!

KillgoreTrout

AdLib – the pure white vote is shrinking hourly. Bad call to try for that alone.

choicelady

Thank you SLM, thank you glenn, thank you KT…You guys are wonderful.

monicaangela

There is only one human race, pass it on

sillylittleme

Well CL, the GOPers haven’t had two brain cells to rub together, for quite some time now.

KillgoreTrout

Aw shucks, M.

KillgoreTrout

slm… and we’re losing!

pinkpantheroz

SLM – the ONLY function skin has, color irrelevant, is to keep your guts from falling on your shoes. Nobody remembers that.

choicelady

CL–What makes the WASPS so great? That’s a rhetorical question, or course. But, it does boggle the mind that WASPS are just as bad as any other ethnic group, yet they set themselves up as the “example” to follow. And, when other ethnic groups do follow their example of taking whatever they want, the WASPS scream “no fair”!

glenn

Well, said, cl!

pinkpantheroz

glenn – we raise our pinkies when we drink tea. Period.

choicelady

Pink and Cl – yup

sillylittleme

WASPS invented racism, concentration camps, colonialization and many other idiocies, to build the Empire, y’know!

pinkpantheroz

we cough and turn red when we toke!

Harleigh

CL–yeah, but those pinkies are pink, don’t forget!

glenn

Coughing is good for the lungs Harleigh.

KillgoreTrout

PPO – well, if you know you’re not superior, what ELSE do you have but oppression?

choicelady

Harleigh, would that be everything including the neck, or neck included?

monicaangela

glenn – EXACTLY.

choicelady

PPO–exactly.

glenn

Ad – and hopefully it will be over they go

sillylittleme

Harleigh – coughing and turning red as I type

sillylittleme

brb

pinkpantheroz

SLM – are you ill? Hang in there!

choicelady

Spot on CL….a ploy that is about to get it’s comeuppance if those that rely on it don’t wake up.

monicaangela

Monica, MJ lightens the red of the neck.

KillgoreTrout

Well the Flintstones were white and celebrated xmas thousands of years before jebus was even born!!

Harleigh

Choice – a little head cold and toking still

sillylittleme

MA–what are you thanking us for? Although, I know in my superior WASPiness, I should be thanked, but I always like to know for sure.

glenn

They rode dinos too, Harleigh.

KillgoreTrout

MA – people need to be aware that there are compounds – Jerry Boykin has one, Eric Prince others – that are arming for the war against the rest of us. That is FACT.

choicelady

KT, you’re kidding, is it the fact that it kind of mellows out the neck of the user, or the user and the neck included?

monicaangela

SLM – one COULD point out that the toking might be counterproductive for the moment?

choicelady

That’s good slm, MJ has great anti-inflammatory properties.

KillgoreTrout

neck too monica!

Harleigh

AdLib – my tartan beats your tartan?

choicelady

The R’s are no better,they are in fact worse at the issues their own autopsy said they had to change.Ship of Fools

Beatlex

Choice – yup, no toking tomorrow. rest, tea and meds

sillylittleme

it mellows out the anger that turns one’s neck red.

KillgoreTrout

Ad–I agree. Evolving is good for the human race.

glenn

SLM – wise move.

choicelady

glenn, learn to accept the fact that you do have privilege…recognize it.

monicaangela

Okay Harleigh so neck also too.

monicaangela

lol

Harleigh

MA – glenn knows that. We ALL know that.

choicelady

Monica, I’m poor, but priveledged. There’s no denying it.

KillgoreTrout

MA–LOL!

glenn

MA – of course the GOP think they’re victims, but here we know it and work against white domination.

choicelady

Choice – ya the BF goes back to school next week and I’ve got lots of projects to do now that he’ll be out of the way for several hours a day

sillylittleme

I know what you mean CL, I knew Eric Prince when I lived in Michigan…..Dominionist of the worst kind.

monicaangela

I mean, I don’t have to worry about some asshole cop shooting me.

KillgoreTrout

MA – he is married to an heir to the Amway group, a fundie money maker.

choicelady

I think.

KillgoreTrout

Ad–they have already hung on to the racism of their aging core for way too long!

glenn

I’m just glad everybody here recognizes that fact they have privilege whether rich, poor, or in between…well, I don’t, I have to earn mine, but earn it I do.

monicaangela

Ad – when the shorelines start to recede, the sheer movement of humanity will put an end to hate or an end to humanity. I’m betting on hate to end.

sillylittleme

KT – you’re probably safer than any man of color, yes.

choicelady

That’s the GOP for you – “Forward to the Past”!!

choicelady

Monica, your time in Nam has earned you more than the average white guy who didn’t serve.

KillgoreTrout

Yes CL, I know that, his dad practically owns Grand Rapids, Michigan.

monicaangela

Monica, if there is a heaven, you have earned your place there.

KillgoreTrout

MA–those of us who do have privilege recognize how much harder you have to work to earn whatever it is you have. We are privileged that you join us and try to give us a different perspective.

glenn

Choice – Backwards Xtian Soldiers

sillylittleme

MA- those are some evil people. How did you know them?

choicelady

Has anybody thought they maybe what we are witnessing in the candidacy of Donald Trump and the other 17 stooges running in the republican primary could possibly be the Repubs boarding the equivalent of their Titanic?

monicaangela

SLM – I so despise the ‘soldiers’ image and they are the WORST.

choicelady

MA – we pray for that. Even those of us who don’t believe pray for this to be their Titanic!

choicelady

MA–I hope so. I am so hoping that the republican party will HAVE to change!

glenn

AdLib – BEST part of SCOTUS lately was upholding citizen commissions for redistricting.

choicelady

Choice – they don’t realize that the war they are fighting is within themselves

sillylittleme

Love it, slm!

KillgoreTrout

SLM – I disagree that’s it – it IS with us. I live w security cameras because it IS with us. They harass me at home, my office – they are violent people.

choicelady

CL, it’s a long story. they owned a theater where I took my students from time to time. I applied for a grant to do so, was invited to a gala where Eric and his family were guest of honor, during the event, we sort of got to know each other.

monicaangela

Monica,we can dream,The R’s go the way of the Whigs!

Beatlex

MA – what was he like as a person?

choicelady

I don’t know how the repuques can win with their war on women.

Harleigh

Harleigh – we saw them die in Missouri with Akins idiocy. I think it will boomerang on them.

choicelady

Ad–I just cannot understand that in this day and age that anyone can hold those views about their fellow American citizens–I’m referring to the racism and the misogyny. I am one of those senior citizens and I just don’t “get it”.

glenn

Choice – I understand what you are saying, they don’t realize that the hate they feel and express against goodness is what dooms them in the end

sillylittleme

glenn – i’m with you in puzzlement.

choicelady

Harleigh, the only women that would vote repub are the subservient wives of republicans.

KillgoreTrout

SLM – yes. In the END. I just want to freaking LIVE to see it.

choicelady

CL, he was actually kind of nice. I didn’t get to see his evil side too often, I always knew they claimed to be highly religious, and would often remind me that they believed in looking out for the little guy. You be the judge.

monicaangela

AdLib – it probably won’t help the South, but I was interviewed by a woman who is being bankrolled by a billionaire (do NOT know who) to do ballot measures in northern states that are basically blue turned red. THAT will help a lot.

choicelady

Beatlex, that’s a much, much better idea…that way we clean house entirely.

monicaangela

KT I don’t get how anyone with a vagina and a brain could vote for those scum. seriously.

Harleigh

Actions always speak much louder than words. This is something the RNC will never figure out.

KillgoreTrout

MA – I can see his self deception. It is part of what makes him so dangerous.

choicelady

Choice – when you least expect it, karma has a way of creeping up. I want you to feel safe from fear. I hope we can make that happen soon.

sillylittleme

Harleigh, they are literal slaves to their husband’s wishes, like the bybull tells them so. Just look at the Duggars.

KillgoreTrout

SLM – I hope so. I’ve been stalked 5 times by them in different states. It’s getting old. I’ve lost five friends and acquaintances to their murderous ways.

choicelady

Harleigh – it is painfully obvious that there is a percentage of women who forgot to pick up both on their way out of the cabbage patch.

sillylittleme

it’s a hrrible thing, like tammy faye. lol

Harleigh

Harleigh, oh the horror!

KillgoreTrout

KT–please can we NOT look at the Duggars? Bunch of hypocrites. I’m still waiting for some of the kids to break away from the “clan”. Ought to be interesting. And, BTW, where is Josh?

glenn

Harleigh – remember that at the end of her life, Tammy Faye became very supportive of Gay Rights.

choicelady

glenn – Josh is AWOL from his brainwashing – uh – rehab facility.

choicelady

I agree glenn, but those kids are literally, prisoners.

KillgoreTrout

Oh Choice, my heart hurts

sillylittleme

CL–I didn’t know that about Tammy Faye.

glenn

Harleigh, why is it that every time someone mentions Tammy Faye, I think of a horrible makeup job. Is it just me. I wonder if they ever sold that airconditioned dog house. I have a friend that could really use one.

monicaangela

glenn – yeah, they traded fashion tips, and I am NOT being snotty. It’s true.

choicelady

Ad – totally agree

sillylittleme

Tammy’s make-up added three pounds to her head, every day.

KillgoreTrout

KT – I hear she died of a neck injury…

choicelady

CL–well, I hope someone taught her how to apply make-up!

glenn

LOL!

KillgoreTrout

glenn – she taught THEM. Drag queens. I am SERIOUS about that!

choicelady

KT, LOL!!!!

monicaangela

Sarah palin wears heavy earrings, to keep her head from floating off of her neck.

KillgoreTrout

KT-LOL!

Beatlex

Stop CL,

monicaangela

Old joke – when Tammy Faye died, they started to remove her makeup and found Jimmy Hoffa.

choicelady

how do you get that effect with your makeup tammy??? a putty knife.

Harleigh

KT – helium?

sillylittleme

CL, LOL!!!!!!

monicaangela

That’s a good one, for sure, CL.

KillgoreTrout

Ad–I guess you’re right. I know how debilitating (sp) poverty can be, and how it takes hope away from you, one day, one hour, one minute, at a time. I used to see it in the poor kids I taught. I was always so gratified when I could make them see that they could learn, and hopefully, get out of the poverty trap.

glenn

Good one Harleigh….

monicaangela

Choice

sillylittleme

SLM,she is a gas bag!

Beatlex

Something lighter than brain matter!

KillgoreTrout

Ad, you mean she went on a diet?

KillgoreTrout

I love Stephanie Miller on Palin – when she speaks it’s as if a Scrabble game blew up in her head.

choicelady

Choice – that’s a good one

sillylittleme

Like Stephanie. I once talked to her on a her old call in show. Funny lady.

KillgoreTrout

Of all the descriptions, SLM – Stephanie nailed it for me.

choicelady

So what does everyone think about McCain and his junior Senator from Arizona selling Indian lands to an Australian corporation?

monicaangela

KT – that is way cool!

choicelady

i knew oral roberts and was same age as his kids in tulsa. faith healing stage and all!

Harleigh

CL–LOL! Although, now that I think about it, TammyFaye’s makeup was perfect for drag queens!

glenn

MA – it is despicable, and I cannot see how it’s remotely legal.

choicelady

MA – hey why not? didn’t W want to sell the ports to Algeria?

sillylittleme

Harleigh, the name Oral, always cracked me up!

KillgoreTrout

CL, do you watch the Stephanie Miller show? I love the Frangela duo she has on sometimes on Friday.

monicaangela

KT – when Oral begged for money or he’d die, I was horrified some rich geezer bailed him out.

choicelady

sarah speaks thru a salad shooter into a Mr. Microphone!

Harleigh

KT – that’s how he thought he was conceived…

sillylittleme

That is horrible Cl.

KillgoreTrout

monica how do you watch steph on the radio??

Harleigh

We have our election going on,it is a three way tie between the ruling Coservatives,Liberal,and the far left party the NDP holding a slight edge!

Beatlex

Choice and slm, YES, and YES….what a sad state of affairs.

monicaangela

Beatlex – that’s encouraging. Why does ANYONE want conservatives anyway?

choicelady

Has anybody seen John Oliver’s new “church.” Too funny. I think it’s called Our lady of the Immaculate Exemption! Tax free , ya know!

KillgoreTrout

Beatlex–is the campaign going on, or did the election end in a three-way tie?

glenn

Harleigh, Steph comes on FreeSpeechTV everyday except Sunday from 9:00 a.m to 12 noon.

monicaangela

KT – I love that Oliver is doing that!

choicelady

KT–John Oliver is spot on about the tax exemption of churches!

glenn

is it on cable?

Harleigh

KT – it’s brilliant isn’t it? I can’t wait for Tuesday night and Colbert

sillylittleme

Oh Cl. it’s freakin hilarious, and many people are sending him money!

KillgoreTrout

SLM–Did you enter jeb’s contest? Or Stephen’s?

glenn

Harleigh – HBO Sunday night

sillylittleme

Same here, slm.

KillgoreTrout

KT – I am always careful about the church tax issues since progressive churches obey existing laws and will be killed by that if it were to pass. Should be based on breaking the law – and for THAT I’m rooting to have it happen!

choicelady

KT, if I could come up with a program, I think I might open me one of those Tax Exemption Emaculate churches…sounds like a good idea. ]

monicaangela

Glenn – no, but I enjoy watching the results

sillylittleme

MA – given America’s devotion to religion, you don’t NEED a program to have a tax exempt church.

choicelady

Does anyone know if any of those pastors cruz gave the sermon to, actually preached his sermon? Wouldn’t that be a violation of the law, CL?

glenn

Choice – should be about actual religion not grift

sillylittleme

Glenn,we are in the middle of the race,late October is we have the election

Beatlex

AdLib – it is a serious worry that the Davis case may cause violence, yes. They want to be martyrs and take us with them.

choicelady

AdLib, you know you are right about Huckabee…do you really think he’s in this to become the next President?

monicaangela

CL, I think any church that politicizes from the pulpit should have to pay taxes. Like George Carlin said, If they want to get in the game, make them pay their entrance fees, like everybody else.

KillgoreTrout

B – keep us posted

sillylittleme

SLM – I agree. Grift is the name of too many. but indiscriminate taxation would close progressive small churches leavning ONLY the large RW ones that can afford the tax.

choicelady

Beatlex–do you have any predictions about who will win, since it’s so close?

glenn

CL, unlike some others, I’d have to at least come up with something that might convince me I was doing the right thing. I have a conscience you know, unlike some others.

monicaangela

I came in late, but has anyone commented on the utterly childish behavior of the GOP getting their kids to sign pledges not to rock the boat?

pinkpantheroz

KT – define ‘politicize’. Ours teach equality, the morality of marriage equality, etc. but never support partisan candidates no matter who.

choicelady

Excellent AdLib…thanks.

monicaangela

MA – a conscience? Well you’ll never get rich THAT way!

choicelady

PPO–Do you mean the “loyalty oath” to the republican party, only the republican party, and no other party but the republican party?

glenn

Choice – not if the law is clear as to actual actions taken by the church to administer to their flock not a money making scheme. Not for profit doesn’t include luxuries

sillylittleme

well i gotta go to bed…. been a long day. see ya all next week, same bat time…

Harleigh

nite all

Harleigh

glenn, sure do! Spanks of Nazism or Communism, doesn’t it?

pinkpantheroz

Actually PPO, I believe they used that plege deal to pay Trump to forget about running as a third party candidate….remember the art of the deal.

monicaangela

G’night H!

pinkpantheroz

Nite Harleigh, I think I will follow. My head is in need of a box of tissues. Nite all, fare thee well..

sillylittleme

CL–I beg to differ. The clerk in KY with a “conscience” is just waiting to get rich from her martyrdom!

glenn

Choice, might father told me that often, my mother told me to ignore him. I’m older now, and guess what…he was correct.

monicaangela

MA, right, but isn’t it SO childish and panicky?

pinkpantheroz

SLM – the law is pretty clear. To push a case for ripping away the exemption though, you have to be IN a service or church and observe first hand. That was due to an attack on one of our liberal churches based on a complaint from someone in another state who’d read a news story and made up a charge. So I am OK with having to have first hand not second hand knowledge of violations.

choicelady

Goodnight Harleigh!

monicaangela

Slippery slopes, for sure, CL. I know the RW evangelicals are pretty careful about what they preach in actual churches, most of them use some sort of code, or dog whistle. But if they explicitly say vote for this person or that, yank their tax exempt status. Jesus Camp made kids pray to a cardboard statue of George Bush.. That kind of thing.

KillgoreTrout

‘Nite, Harleigh.

glenn

PPO…yes it is.

monicaangela

Goodnight PPO!

monicaangela

Nite, SLM–hope you feel better soon!

glenn

Later Harleigh.

KillgoreTrout

The pledge the Donald signed,what is that? like a Frat pledge? How silly

Beatlex

Night Harleigh and SLM – great to see you here!

choicelady

PPO–yup!

glenn

Goodnight all, I’ve really enjoyed your company, but it is getting late on this side of the country.

monicaangela

AdLib – we’re right there with you. We’ve had break ins in out office already.

choicelady

I ain’t goin’ nowhere

pinkpantheroz

Good night MA – sleep well!

choicelady

Night PPO!

choicelady

goodnight, MA

pinkpantheroz

Oh – never mind PPO.

choicelady

Later, Pink!

KillgoreTrout

MA and PPO–but trump may not honor his pledge if he doesn’t become the nominee. After all, if he doesn’t become the nominee, then that means the republican party hasn’t treated him “fairly”, so all bets are off!

glenn

I think too will take this time to say good night. Take care all.

KillgoreTrout

AdLib – we can’t prove it, don’t have cameras. Just come in, things moved, a way of saying ‘we can do this’. We’re changing the locks.

choicelady

‘Nite Monicaangela. Great chatting with you tonight.

glenn

glenn, I can see his twisted logic doing just that. Egg on face for the GOP either way

pinkpantheroz

Night KT – be well!

choicelady

Glenn, this is the last one. If Trump doesn’t get the nomination, he still wins…after all, they have already paid him to back off, even if he says they didn’t.

monicaangela

I think I’m pushing off for the night, too. Up at 2:30 to take a homeless man to the bus station, and never really got back to sleep. Too OLD for this!!!

choicelady

Goodnight to all leaving!

Beatlex

Beatlex – hope you improve all ways. Good luck regaining your health!

choicelady

Beatlex–trump and all of the other repubs signed a pledge that if they didn’t get the republican party nomination, that they would support whoever became the nominee.

glenn

CL,thx,I think I am heading the right direction now

Beatlex

goodnight, KT. Say a prayer that the Hayne Train gets picked up by the 49’ers!

pinkpantheroz

Adlib,it is stupid though,typical R move,idiots

Beatlex

Nite Beatlex, ‘nite CK

glenn

Ad, I’m a Redskin fan myself, for all my sins, but hope the Aussie makes it

pinkpantheroz

Adlib,thx,goodnight

Beatlex

oops, CL!

glenn

Cheers, Beat and CL

pinkpantheroz

Just came back to say to AdLib – you’re a prophet. A PP clinic in Pullman WA just got firebombed. And so it begins… Again. Good night all!

choicelady

holy, crap, CL! not good.

pinkpantheroz

Alas,I have to work tomorrow,see you all on the music thread? Goodnight

Beatlex

If we’re talking football, what about Brady’s “win” over Goddell?

glenn

Damn, CL–that is horrible news.

glenn

glenn, the whole schemozzle was a disater from Day 1

pinkpantheroz

A PR disaster no matter how one looks at it. And the Concussion debate will be front and center this year as well

pinkpantheroz

PPO–do you mean “deflategate”? Personally, I don’t like the patriots one bit. So, I believe that brady was in on it, but I have no facts to back it up. Just call me a conservative; I believe what I believe.

glenn

Maybe the NFL needs to expand the number of players on a roster to ensure concussion victims get enough recovery time

pinkpantheroz

Ad–the thing that pisses me off is that brady and billichek got away with cheating a few years ago with having the plays of the other teams, yet nothing was done. I think Gooddell was trying to “remedy” that in this case.

glenn

burden of proof, glenn. Sucks, doesn’t it? I’m with you on the Pats. Hate ’em

pinkpantheroz

PPO–maybe.

glenn

Ad, in College Ball, Head to head is a foul. Should be the same in the Pros

pinkpantheroz

Ad–I agree about launching themselves at each other. I think there are more concussions due to artificial turf, also.

glenn

Ad, actually, maybe they should go back to leather helmets. That’d stop it quick smart!

pinkpantheroz

Ad and PPO–and if we ruled the NFL, we could make it a better game!

glenn

Alright, fellows, time for me to call it a night. As always, enjoyed VOX. Thanks, Ad, for providing such a great platform to “let it all hang out”. G’nite.

glenn

Well, I’d better let you guys head to bed. Long time yet for me, but I have stuff to do. See you all next week. Great chat as usual.

pinkpantheroz

night glann

pinkpantheroz

night, ad

pinkpantheroz

G’day to you, PPO!

glenn