Boom!

funksands

Hey Ad, wazz up?

KillgoreTrout

Hey funk!

KillgoreTrout

Hey KT!

funksands

Have I mentioned how much I love the erhu?

funksands

The erhu?

KillgoreTrout

Hey Murph!

KillgoreTrout

I have a lovely elderly Chinese gentleman playing it right across the street. It’s really lovely

funksands

Hi Moiph!

funksands

And hello to you too dear moderator

funksands

What is the erhu? I’m not familiar with it.

KillgoreTrout

Hello…kt, funk, ad…..

MurphTheSurf3

It’s that 1-stringed bowed instrument

funksands

Ah, thanks funk.

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funksands

crap

funksands

JOn Stewart recently said that watching Trump’s campaign was as much fun as eating ice cream on a roller coaster made of blow jobs! HA!

KillgoreTrout

Anyway, you know what it is now

funksands

Boy am I going to miss him

funksands

Yes, I do. I think I’ve heard that before and just couldn’t remember.

KillgoreTrout

Yes yes yes

funksands

Me too funk. He will definitely be missed.

KillgoreTrout

You’re like that paperclip Ad: “It looks like you are trying to download a picture”

funksands

KillgoreTrout

I respect someone going out at the top of their game to pursue other passions. It’s got to be an utterly exhausting gig. I’ve listened to interviews with people on the show and they say that Stewart basically works 13-14 hour days working on everything on the show top to bottom

funksands

well Ad, he’s doing pretty well, all things considered.

KillgoreTrout

The Fellaciator!

KillgoreTrout

The concerted effort by the establishment to take Trump down almost makes me feel sorry for him. But mostly it just makes me cackle

funksands

brb

funksands

I guess you guys saw the Wyatt Cenac flap. I can understand Wyatt’s feelings, but I think he is really being a bit thin skinned. Stewart does impressions of just about any ethnicity, including his own.

KillgoreTrout

Maybe The Donald can be the GOP version of Ralph Nader.

KillgoreTrout

Maddow had a great piece on what Perot’s candidacy really meant for the election results. Good stuff. Her staff is really impressive

funksands

Maddow may be all that is left over at MSNBC in the liberal purge that seems to be underway there.

MurphTheSurf3

I have a wait and see attitude toward Hillary. I’d love to see Sanders get the nod, but I do worry about people misunderstanding the real brand of socialism that Sanders promotes. It could be a deal breaker with many dems. I hope I’m wrong.

KillgoreTrout

Hello Planet. Happy “National Tequila Day”

Sabreen60

Too true Murph. Entirely predictable unfortunately

funksands

Hola Sabreen!

KillgoreTrout

Sabreen, it so good to see you!

funksands

And how are you celebrating this august holiday?

funksands

I think MSNBC should definitely get rid of Scarborough.

KillgoreTrout

No chance. Scarborough is locked in for years

funksands

Why do you say that, funk?

KillgoreTrout

scarborough is not on the list as he is not a liberal.

MurphTheSurf3

Ad, I’ll admit that I myself had that conventional wisdom

funksands

They are really going to give Chuck Todd his own show? Really? Whatever for?

KillgoreTrout

Funk, I’m pretty “straight” forward. A shot of Tequila with a wedge of lime and salt to lick

Sabreen60

Sab, I like that. Clean and neat

funksands

i also think MSNBC should bring back Olberman. He may be a bit egotistical, but he did say it like it was.

KillgoreTrout

Funk –

Sabreen60

Ad….MSNBC ratings have been of for a long while and the fix appears to be to make it more like an NBC secondary…thus Williams and Todd and a hard news focus

MurphTheSurf3

Chuck Turd.

KillgoreTrout

I think “UP! Chuck” is a great name for his show

funksands

OK Sabreen, don’t say hi, see if I care!

KillgoreTrout

I read that MSNBC has hired the black Republican Amy whats-her-face. I wouldn’t her even if she weren’t Republican. Talk about arrogant.

Sabreen60

That said, I won’t miss Ed Schulz’s show. I like the guy, I like his politics, but his show is terrible. The Cycle is awful and Alex Wagner is just dull. Good people a victim of poor programming and production

funksands

Oops “wouldn’t LIKE her”

Sabreen60

Amy Holmes. She’s very very smart. Very dangerous.

funksands

How about Melissa Harris-Perry? I like her and think she is smart and courageous.

KillgoreTrout

KT, I like her a lot, and I like her show very much too. I always try to watch a few minutes of her show on Saturdays.

funksands

Yep. Holmes. I really don’t like her attitude. She seems so full of herself.

Sabreen60

She is very impressive funk, IMO.

KillgoreTrout

I wish Chris Hayes would go back to his gig on the mornings. His show on the weekends was fantastic. His nightly show? Not so much.

funksands

The MSNBC morning shows on the weekend are among their best.

MurphTheSurf3

Hey Sabreen, I’m over here!

KillgoreTrout

KT, I agree. She’s really begun to hit her stride. Her voice is very clear now.

funksands

Perry and Kornacki…..

MurphTheSurf3

KT – I see you, darling.

Sabreen60

Hi Sab

MurphTheSurf3

Murph!!

Sabreen60

Murph, I just am not a big fan of Kornacki. I don’t know what it is, but he doesn’t do much for me.

funksands

I think MSNBC has been putting out feelers on social networks. It would be nice if they let their viewers decide!

KillgoreTrout

Ah shucks Sabreen! How have you been?

KillgoreTrout

I got rid of cable, so of course I can’t watch any of the pundits. Actually, they all were beginning to get on my nerves. Maybe I’m becoming grumpy in my foxy old age

Sabreen60

What I like about both is lots of content…..unusual guest lineup….hard, in-depth discussion.

MurphTheSurf3

I must admit, I don’t have much skin the game, since I dropped my cable a few years ago.

KillgoreTrout

The challenge is that liberals (like with everything else) are as easy to herd as wet cats. They get their information from dozens of different sources, and are very fickle consumers. IMO of course

funksands

Yeah funk, those pesky free thinkers!

KillgoreTrout

Sabreen, you are entitled to your grumpiness

funksands

You too, KT. I breath better.

Sabreen60

HA!

KillgoreTrout

For me Sabreen it was a combination of cost/benefit and way too many commercials. Why pay people to try to sell me things.

KillgoreTrout

Murph, for sure. The long form show really allows a depth of exploration of a topic.

funksands

I’m stuck with cable right now, but am trying to extricate myself from Comcast. Ugh

funksands

Good luck funk!

KillgoreTrout

KT – Cost was part of it too. As far as I was concerned there were a gazillion channels with nothing on. And when Comcast began charging for 20 year old movies, we said enough!

Sabreen60

SO. How about Hillary….more trouble (although exagerrated), a dull campaign, and growing unfavorables….

MurphTheSurf3

Comcast sucks more than just about anything I’ve ever known. AND it is the only provider in our area. Monopolies suck. There’s an upstart company trying to shoehorn into our area. I’m on board the second they arrive.

funksands

Murph, I didn’t read the NYT article, but over at TOD, people were saying that NTY got it wrong and should apologize.

Sabreen60

Enough is right. Commercials are inescapable, even on the net, so why pay a provider to inundate us with more commercials?

KillgoreTrout

Hillary HAS to be (and likely is) prepared for the kitchen sink to be thrown at her. The attacks against Obama will look petty compared to the shitstorm they’re going to launch against her.

funksands

Dunk, Sab, I deal with Direct and since the ATT merger they are using more contract workers, and their base prices keep moving up.

MurphTheSurf3

Sabers they did get it wrong. Once again the cream of our reporting crop took dubious information leaked by operatives and reported it as fact.

funksands

funk, I agree, The GOP would rather have a biracial president than a female president.

KillgoreTrout

Speaking of “Obama” I see that the “Kenyan” has gone home. Somebody said he should have said “it’s good to be home” just so Trump’s head would explode.

Sabreen60

Especially a female Clinton President.

funksands

I think as long as someone has a computer, there really is no need for cable TV.

KillgoreTrout

Sabreen, I watched some coverage of his arrival on streaming Kenyan television. What an amazing experience he must be having right now. Amazing

funksands

True dat funk!

KillgoreTrout

Sab…that is the upshot re.criminal investigation but her server problem is going to continue to be a bonanza for the GOP

MurphTheSurf3

funk, he’s certainly earned it.

KillgoreTrout

2 months tops until Vince Foster re-surfaces in the “news”

funksands

KT, he’s had pretty damn good month or two.

funksands

E-mails and Benghazi! Over and over.

KillgoreTrout

I am findingthe lack of GOP KenraPhoria of note.

MurphTheSurf3

As we have too, funk.

KillgoreTrout

Murph – Unfortunately Comcast is all we have in this new development. We’ve only been here 4 years. We bought this condo in a 62 and over development.

Sabreen60

The Iran deal may very well be the most impressive accomplishment by an administration in quite some time. Really excellent and unprecedented

funksands

I love how all the gopers are saying how bad the Iran deal is, yet they haven’t even read it.

KillgoreTrout

Funk, will the GOP be able to derail the Iran agreement. P5 Plus 1 minus 1?

MurphTheSurf3

Obama should have punked them and released a fake document that was blank and watched them hang themselves in the media

funksands

Murph, no. The fix is in.

funksands

The neo-cons will die a slow painful death. They’re already “circling the drain.”

KillgoreTrout

Funk, how so.

MurphTheSurf3

They’ve purposely structured this so they will (at worst) vote “Disapproval” which Obama will veto, and then it will be over. It was done deliberately. They didn’t have to consider this an agreement. Since they have, both Houses would need to override a veto, which won’t happen

funksands

KT, for now. They’ll be back.

funksands

Well, they’ll certainly try, no doubt.

KillgoreTrout

That guy outside is still going. Awesome

funksands

Funk….Kerry certaily put it in terms that made the GOP look like isolationist amateurs.

MurphTheSurf3

Not hard, Murph

funksands

Howdy PPO

MurphTheSurf3

Hi PPO! How are you?

Sabreen60

I think the neo-cons have a real uphill battle, considering how they really fucked up Iraq. They’ve learned NOTHING!

KillgoreTrout

What’s up mate?

KillgoreTrout

I still can’t believe they pulled it off. Against the backdrop of all the betrayal we’ve subjected them to. Against the background of all the harm they’ve perpetrated and the leadership of that poor country. To pull this off was remarkable!!

funksands

Hi, everybody! Whadda we up to today?

pinkpantheroz

How ya goin’ Pink

funksands

KT – Why would any sane person listen to the Iraq warmongers?

Sabreen60

you got me, Sabreen. Unfortunately, there are a lot of really dumb, and crazy RWers.

KillgoreTrout

Funk….Iagree….here in the sordid heartland, the deal is another Obama betrayal….

MurphTheSurf3

I read where Turkey is now going to let US use two of their military bases. PBO ain’t effing around.

Sabreen60

Yeah, Murph, peace is such a bummer!

KillgoreTrout

Finestkind, funk – just catching up with the subject du jour.

pinkpantheroz

Murph, even the President’s supporters I think don’t appreciate the special-ness of this accomplishment

funksands

Sabreen, I think Turkey just realized they’re next in ISIS’ sights, so allowing the US to use bases there is a no-brainer

pinkpantheroz

I think Iran knows what time it is. They’ve got ISIL to deal with along with the sanctions.

Sabreen60

Sabers the Atlantic had an article about analysis of the Iran deal. The three panelists were all supporters of the Iraq war. Sometimes the media, even the good ones are just lazy-asses

funksands

Funk….it is international affairs, not most Americans strong suit.

MurphTheSurf3

ISIS is, for now, mainly a middle-east, European problem, but they do need to be stopped. When an organization is even more radical than al qaida, Holy shit! No pun intended.

KillgoreTrout

Hey PPO, do you have a pilot’s license?

KillgoreTrout

We have the Bush/Cheney Iraq war to thank for ISIL.

Sabreen60

KT, perhaps, but they use social media to radicalise youth and their message is penetrating more than I’d like to know.

pinkpantheroz

I hope hope hope that this is the beginning of Iran engagement. They are one of the only rational actors in the Middle East. We could work with these guys if we’d pull our heads out of our orfices

funksands

Exactly PPO. They do need to be stopped.

KillgoreTrout

Ad, I already have. Thankfully all 3 of my Congress critters seem likely to support it.

funksands

KT, not any more. did have but it was too expensive . Flew Cessnas, AA1 Yankees and Islanders

pinkpantheroz

funk, the GOPers just can’t get out of the past. It’s not in their DNA.

KillgoreTrout

Funk…I wouid not overstate Iranian rationality or civility.

MurphTheSurf3

AdLib – Did that. One of my Senators is Cardin, who is in Bibi’s pocket. He is truly disgusting when it has anything to do with Israel.

Sabreen60

That’s cool PPO. I went to flight school, many years ago, and logged 14 hours, but, as you say, it’s expensive.

KillgoreTrout

Murph, I am speaking comparatively of course.

funksands

Weird seeing 15000 Blue Jays fans at a Mariners game

funksands

Funk. What is going to move the Iranian government is a huge younger generation who want to enage the world….

MurphTheSurf3

Isn’t Iran partially democratic? And must they be like us?

KillgoreTrout

Yep. Open it up. Waaaaaay up

funksands

Isn’t international politics so Effin Dumb!

pinkpantheroz

Ad, very true. Let him know that 86% of voting American Jews support the deal. 0% of voting Israeli Jews in America support the deal

funksands

Yeah Ad, that is true. Theocracies suck. Maybe they can find some sort of middle ground.

KillgoreTrout

AdLib- Every time I write him, I receive a “form” letter. Unfortunately, the stupid ass people in Maryland voted in the Rethug Hogan, so I don’t even know if Cardin would lose if primaried.

Sabreen60

Folks, I gotta go make dinner for the missus. Have a great weekend!!

funksands

Japan, great allies and friends, even after we nuked them Germany – great friends and allies, even afer WWII. China…. I can go on, but you can see the insanity of forever demonizing a country.. until they’re your pals.

pinkpantheroz

Later funk!

KillgoreTrout

Good night Funk. Have fun cooking and have a great weekend!

Sabreen60

PPO but, but, but Cuba and Iran are different…

MurphTheSurf3

Good night Funk

MurphTheSurf3

Murph,

pinkpantheroz

Good Night, Funk!

pinkpantheroz

I would say that Germany’s leaders in WWII and Japan’s had it coming, but the people of those countries sure didn’t deserve what they got. Isn’t that always the way?

KillgoreTrout

Money always wins out, though, Ad. It pretty much always boils down to the haves and have nots.

KillgoreTrout

brb

pinkpantheroz

ad…funding is the key to message control and dissemination..a tough choice

MurphTheSurf3

No, they didn’t Ad. At the time, any citizen of Japan over the age of 14 was expected to fight any imminent invasion. Even women and old people. I’m sure they didn’t want that role. It was the Bushido warrior’s code that really made Japan suffer needlessly.

KillgoreTrout

AdLib – But the problem is far too many people are not involved.

Sabreen60

I think it’s a good thing that we have opened relations with Cuba. I wonder just how similar Castro’s son is to his old man. And the USSR no longer exists.

KillgoreTrout

I would love to go to Cuba. I have friends that went a few years ago by way of Jamaica.

Sabreen60

KT…..Ad….best estimates were that the cost of an invasion of the Japanese Home Islands would have been half a million U.S. casualties…the Japanese had a lot of troops in reserve AND the Soviets were waiting to pounce if given an opportunity. The A Bomb was meant to shock the Japanese government into surrender, given that the narrative claimed there were dozens of other weapons in reserve and that the Imperial City was next.

MurphTheSurf3

Ad….for the GOP Cuba and Iran are the same….both no-go zones no matter what.

MurphTheSurf3

I agree, to a point. We offered surrender terms more than once, but Japan refused, every time. I know we wanted Stalin to see the power nukes had, and Stalin was eyeing Japan for their next conquest. I think the first bomb was needed. Not the second one. More people died in the fire bombing of Japanese cities than did those who died from a boms, even many years later. I think the second bomb was merely a cruel scientific experiment. was

KillgoreTrout

Well folks, I’ve gotta run. Have a great weekend and week. Nite. Nite.

Sabreen60

Exactly Murph!

KillgoreTrout

Sab, good to see you.

MurphTheSurf3

Sweet dreams Sabreen!

KillgoreTrout

Ad….the GOP counts on a woefully ignorant base.

MurphTheSurf3

Murph, FOX NEWS is absolute proof of that!

KillgoreTrout

Ad….thee was talk of dropping it in Tokyo harbor. After Okinawa I think all bets were off

MurphTheSurf3

Trump is the living embodiment of teapartyism triumphant.

MurphTheSurf3

I disagree Ad. Japan would not surrender, even after the first bomb wiped out an entire city. We should have stopped after the first and given Japan time to realize what we had done and could do again. As I said, the second bomb was just a cruel scientific experiment.

KillgoreTrout

The Tea Party is the Second Know Nothings.

MurphTheSurf3

You must also remember the sheer hatred this country had for Japan at the time. Their murderous treatment of POWs was also a factor.

KillgoreTrout

Japan was not innocent. Not at all. Too bad that the ordinary citizens of that country had to suffer so much. That is the way it always goes, though.

KillgoreTrout

KT, that’s my point. even after the atrocities perpetrated, the US still worked with Germany and Japan and forged new alliances. Why not Iran?

pinkpantheroz

I would like to think that the GOP is on it’s last legs, but ideology is a very hard thing to overcome.

KillgoreTrout

The Tea Party were meant to be political cannon fodder – thus the sponsorship by the Kochs as organized by Freedom Works – but they have never quite marched in synch so the funding went away but the cancer had been sown and has spread. It is now at the root of much of their base and provides the glue holding it in place.

MurphTheSurf3

I agree PPO. Iran has not really been all that vicious towards us. Yeah, the hostages and all that, but that pales in comparison to Germany and Japan.

KillgoreTrout

I agree Ad, until WWII, the bombing of civilians was considered taboo. But, that’s the nature of such massive warfare. Where do you draw a line, when your enemy draws no lines at all?

KillgoreTrout

KT – ideology, yes, but Theology as well.

pinkpantheroz

Isn’t it sad that unreason is still so prevalant? Sad indeed.

KillgoreTrout

KT and Ad….Iran, as Persia, has a profound opportunity to provide the Middle East with religious that transcends absolutism. This deal is an important step in that direction.

MurphTheSurf3

no doubt PPO. Samey same, in my book.

KillgoreTrout

So true, KT. Even have normal-ish relations with Vietnam, who whupped us!

pinkpantheroz

I agree Murph. The Shias,don’t seem to be as hard core as the Sunnis.

KillgoreTrout

Shhhhhh, PPO. It was a draw! Don’t ya know.

KillgoreTrout

Peace with honor, is what Nixon called it, I believe. HA!

KillgoreTrout

KT, Sorry! Forgot that, like Korea, it wasn’t a war at all!

pinkpantheroz

KT….as the Muslim minority they have learned to get along. I agree with your assessment.

MurphTheSurf3

Yep. Just a police action, with fighter jets, tanks, artillery, machine guns, napalm…etc.

KillgoreTrout

KT, yep. Rather like inner America these days, innit?

pinkpantheroz

Ad…good comparison….Know nothingism melted down in much the same way.

MurphTheSurf3

…. without the napalm

pinkpantheroz

Murph, they follow Muhammed’s nephew, not the prophet himself. Maybe some lee way there. I think.

KillgoreTrout

Yes it is PPO.

KillgoreTrout

america’s police forces are far too militarized now. Our cops are at war with our nations poor people, when they should be “protecting and serving.” You can blame racism and the war on drugs for that horrible realty.

KillgoreTrout

KT and Ad…..with you both…

MurphTheSurf3

BRB

KillgoreTrout

KT, the Koran is one book with different interpretations. Here, there are many different printings and interpretations of the Bible. Anyway, if we’re ‘Christians” shouldn’t we be reading only the New Testament?

pinkpantheroz

Good question PPO. I’m an atheist, but I see the New Testament as god’s kid correcting his dad’s crankiness! It’s like, damn dad, you were a real prick, maybe we should soften our message here!

KillgoreTrout

The GOP alternative is the threat of military action…that is all they have as there is nothing else.

MurphTheSurf3

KT, beautiful and accurate simile, but it wouldn’t suit the fundamentalists to talk only of peaceful methods to resolve conflict now, would it?

pinkpantheroz

Sure Ad, it’s war. But when you have mandatory minimum sentencing for non-violent drug offenses, which are totally draconian, a for profit prison system, combined with decades old racism, you get what we see every day. It’s absolutely fucked up and not anywhere close to what our founders intended.

KillgoreTrout

nope PPO. Fire and brimstone, and all that, cha know!

KillgoreTrout

Ad, ISIS is a danger just by radicalizing US youth to do terrorist acts. That’s colose enough to home for me.

pinkpantheroz

It’s funny PPO, but I see all the home grown gun violence here as a bigger threat.

KillgoreTrout

Ad…it is a combination…..zealots believe in the sword…pragmatists believe in winning at all costs….a match made in heaven. I saw former Congressman West’s speech in Times Square last week and the crowd reaction…madness afoot.

MurphTheSurf3

We do seem to either be on the brink now, or rapidly approaching it, and nobody can seem to find the brakes.

KillgoreTrout

KT, THERE WILL BE FIRE AND BRIMSTONE SPREADING OVER THE EARTH, AND PESTILENCE SHALL SPREAD EVERYWHERE! The rest of the forecast is for sunny periods and scattered showers.

pinkpantheroz

brb. Smoko

pinkpantheroz

LOL PPO! And lets not forget that our forcast calls for a Mexican high, followed by Canadian lows!

KillgoreTrout

KillgoreTrout

KillgoreTrout

The reaction to the most recent spate of shootings in my redneck woods is auto-responses about there being no bad guns only bad people.

MurphTheSurf3

Add the crazy idea of being allowed to kill someone, just because a person might feel threatened. Holy shyte! Stand your ground laws are a return to the wild, wild west!

KillgoreTrout

I know Murph, I often ask these gun nuts when is the last time they can remember a gun, jumping up all by itself, and shooting someone.

KillgoreTrout

Ad…..there is no discussion with folks like that only confrontation.

MurphTheSurf3

KT…..I get derisive laughter when I make comments like that.

MurphTheSurf3

Sad, isn’t it Murph. I believe that people should have a right to keep a gun IN THE HOUSE, for protection, and for hunting, but who needs a fricken weapon that can fire 700 rounds per minute? Who needs to carry concealed weapons, except for cash handlers and women working at night? I think most gun nuts are pussies.

KillgoreTrout

Oh, me too Murph.

KillgoreTrout

KillgoreTrout

KT..I ama gun owner. I believe in licensing, registration and limitations on the weapons….most of my neighbors hate me for this.

MurphTheSurf3

That’s sad. I agree with you, 100%

KillgoreTrout

The really sad part Ad, is that many of these morons hold positions of responsibility in our government.

KillgoreTrout

Ad…that is my experience…..the fall back to nasty labeling and personal attacks is the key indicator that they have lost but they do not,cannot acknowledge it.

MurphTheSurf3

check out the Bill Maher vid above.

KillgoreTrout

Ad, you may very well have a point about mental illness in youth. I mean, what kind of nutjob would mount a pistol onto a drone and spray bullets everywhere? There’s something very wrong with young peoples’ minds , engineered by the gun lobby and violent video games, IMO

pinkpantheroz

Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies. Groucho Marx

pinkpantheroz

KT….one of my neighbors wears a side arm and carries a rifle wherever he goes…..frightening and unstoppable.

MurphTheSurf3

I would never even want to live with such fear. Again, pussies.

KillgoreTrout

Ad…and with that, claimingthey lostpatience with me, and told me off, they stride away, full of triumphant glory.

MurphTheSurf3

PPO Groucho and Karl….what a hoot.

MurphTheSurf3

Ad, perfect receptacle for ISIS poison, dontcha think?

pinkpantheroz

Always loved Groucho.

KillgoreTrout

today’s “ammosexuals!”

KillgoreTrout

Ammosexuals, arsenalholics

MurphTheSurf3

Ad, I think you have hit the core of today’s problems – Amoral people hiding behind theocratical rantings to justify evil actions

pinkpantheroz

I like it Murph. arsenalholics.

KillgoreTrout

….. and where are the parents?

pinkpantheroz

Well, I am done in….so until our next encounter….best to all.

MurphTheSurf3

Don’t fogert un abashed greed PPO. People who stock pile can foods, dry goods, water, and guns and ammo, for the coming apocalypse. They need the guns and ammo to keep needy people away. That way, they don’t have to SHARE. You know, like Jeebus wants them to.

KillgoreTrout

Nice dreams, Murph1

KillgoreTrout

Ad, I am awash in the rw and not taking them is seen as a white flag…so I battle on…

MurphTheSurf3

Goodnight, sweet Murph, and may flights of angels sing thee to thy rest!

pinkpantheroz

PPO Shakespeare! Bardly bidding!

MurphTheSurf3

Nite KT…..dreamland awaits.

MurphTheSurf3

I, myself, must call it a night. Peace to all.

KillgoreTrout

Will do Ad.

KillgoreTrout

Always great chatting here with you.

pinkpantheroz

So true, Ad. MAybe THAT will be his greatest legacy – calm among the insanity.

pinkpantheroz

OK, Ad. Sorry I missed so much. Always great. Good night and see you next week.

pinkpantheroz