Vox Populi – 7-24-2015

Boom!

Hey Ad, wazz up?

Hey funk!

Hey KT!

Have I mentioned how much I love the erhu?

The erhu?

Hey Murph!

I have a lovely elderly Chinese gentleman playing it right across the street. It’s really lovely

Hi Moiph!

And hello to you too dear moderator

What is the erhu? I’m not familiar with it.

Hello…kt, funk, ad…..

It’s that 1-stringed bowed instrument

Ah, thanks funk.

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crap

JOn Stewart recently said that watching Trump’s campaign was as much fun as eating ice cream on a roller coaster made of blow jobs! HA!

Anyway, you know what it is now

Boy am I going to miss him

Yes, I do. I think I’ve heard that before and just couldn’t remember.

Yes yes yes

Me too funk. He will definitely be missed.

You’re like that paperclip Ad: “It looks like you are trying to download a picture”

I respect someone going out at the top of their game to pursue other passions. It’s got to be an utterly exhausting gig. I’ve listened to interviews with people on the show and they say that Stewart basically works 13-14 hour days working on everything on the show top to bottom

well Ad, he’s doing pretty well, all things considered.

The Fellaciator!

The concerted effort by the establishment to take Trump down almost makes me feel sorry for him. But mostly it just makes me cackle

brb

I guess you guys saw the Wyatt Cenac flap. I can understand Wyatt’s feelings, but I think he is really being a bit thin skinned. Stewart does impressions of just about any ethnicity, including his own.

Maybe The Donald can be the GOP version of Ralph Nader.

Maddow had a great piece on what Perot’s candidacy really meant for the election results. Good stuff. Her staff is really impressive

Maddow may be all that is left over at MSNBC in the liberal purge that seems to be underway there.

I have a wait and see attitude toward Hillary. I’d love to see Sanders get the nod, but I do worry about people misunderstanding the real brand of socialism that Sanders promotes. It could be a deal breaker with many dems. I hope I’m wrong.

Hello Planet. Happy “National Tequila Day”

Too true Murph. Entirely predictable unfortunately

Hola Sabreen!

Sabreen, it so good to see you!

And how are you celebrating this august holiday?

I think MSNBC should definitely get rid of Scarborough.

No chance. Scarborough is locked in for years

Why do you say that, funk?

scarborough is not on the list as he is not a liberal.

Ad, I’ll admit that I myself had that conventional wisdom

They are really going to give Chuck Todd his own show? Really? Whatever for?

Funk, I’m pretty “straight” forward. A shot of Tequila with a wedge of lime and salt to lick

Sab, I like that. Clean and neat

i also think MSNBC should bring back Olberman. He may be a bit egotistical, but he did say it like it was.

Funk –

Ad….MSNBC ratings have been of for a long while and the fix appears to be to make it more like an NBC secondary…thus Williams and Todd and a hard news focus

Chuck Turd.

I think “UP! Chuck” is a great name for his show

OK Sabreen, don’t say hi, see if I care!

I read that MSNBC has hired the black Republican Amy whats-her-face. I wouldn’t her even if she weren’t Republican. Talk about arrogant.

That said, I won’t miss Ed Schulz’s show. I like the guy, I like his politics, but his show is terrible. The Cycle is awful and Alex Wagner is just dull. Good people a victim of poor programming and production

Oops “wouldn’t LIKE her”

Amy Holmes. She’s very very smart. Very dangerous.

How about Melissa Harris-Perry? I like her and think she is smart and courageous.

KT, I like her a lot, and I like her show very much too. I always try to watch a few minutes of her show on Saturdays.

Yep. Holmes. I really don’t like her attitude. She seems so full of herself.

She is very impressive funk, IMO.

I wish Chris Hayes would go back to his gig on the mornings. His show on the weekends was fantastic. His nightly show? Not so much.

The MSNBC morning shows on the weekend are among their best.

Hey Sabreen, I’m over here!

KT, I agree. She’s really begun to hit her stride. Her voice is very clear now.

Perry and Kornacki…..

KT – I see you, darling.

Hi Sab

Murph!!

Murph, I just am not a big fan of Kornacki. I don’t know what it is, but he doesn’t do much for me.

I think MSNBC has been putting out feelers on social networks. It would be nice if they let their viewers decide!

Ah shucks Sabreen! How have you been?

I got rid of cable, so of course I can’t watch any of the pundits. Actually, they all were beginning to get on my nerves. Maybe I’m becoming grumpy in my foxy old age

What I like about both is lots of content…..unusual guest lineup….hard, in-depth discussion.

I must admit, I don’t have much skin the game, since I dropped my cable a few years ago.

The challenge is that liberals (like with everything else) are as easy to herd as wet cats. They get their information from dozens of different sources, and are very fickle consumers. IMO of course

Yeah funk, those pesky free thinkers!

Sabreen, you are entitled to your grumpiness

You too, KT. I breath better.

HA!

For me Sabreen it was a combination of cost/benefit and way too many commercials. Why pay people to try to sell me things.

Murph, for sure. The long form show really allows a depth of exploration of a topic.

I’m stuck with cable right now, but am trying to extricate myself from Comcast. Ugh

Good luck funk!

KT – Cost was part of it too. As far as I was concerned there were a gazillion channels with nothing on. And when Comcast began charging for 20 year old movies, we said enough!

SO. How about Hillary….more trouble (although exagerrated), a dull campaign, and growing unfavorables….

Comcast sucks more than just about anything I’ve ever known. AND it is the only provider in our area. Monopolies suck. There’s an upstart company trying to shoehorn into our area. I’m on board the second they arrive.

Murph, I didn’t read the NYT article, but over at TOD, people were saying that NTY got it wrong and should apologize.

Enough is right. Commercials are inescapable, even on the net, so why pay a provider to inundate us with more commercials?

Hillary HAS to be (and likely is) prepared for the kitchen sink to be thrown at her. The attacks against Obama will look petty compared to the shitstorm they’re going to launch against her.

Dunk, Sab, I deal with Direct and since the ATT merger they are using more contract workers, and their base prices keep moving up.

Sabers they did get it wrong. Once again the cream of our reporting crop took dubious information leaked by operatives and reported it as fact.

funk, I agree, The GOP would rather have a biracial president than a female president.

Speaking of “Obama” I see that the “Kenyan” has gone home. Somebody said he should have said “it’s good to be home” just so Trump’s head would explode.

Especially a female Clinton President.

I think as long as someone has a computer, there really is no need for cable TV.

Sabreen, I watched some coverage of his arrival on streaming Kenyan television. What an amazing experience he must be having right now. Amazing

True dat funk!

Sab…that is the upshot re.criminal investigation but her server problem is going to continue to be a bonanza for the GOP

funk, he’s certainly earned it.

2 months tops until Vince Foster re-surfaces in the “news”

KT, he’s had pretty damn good month or two.

E-mails and Benghazi! Over and over.

I am findingthe lack of GOP KenraPhoria of note.

As we have too, funk.

Murph – Unfortunately Comcast is all we have in this new development. We’ve only been here 4 years. We bought this condo in a 62 and over development.

The Iran deal may very well be the most impressive accomplishment by an administration in quite some time. Really excellent and unprecedented

I love how all the gopers are saying how bad the Iran deal is, yet they haven’t even read it.

Funk, will the GOP be able to derail the Iran agreement. P5 Plus 1 minus 1?

Obama should have punked them and released a fake document that was blank and watched them hang themselves in the media

Murph, no. The fix is in.

The neo-cons will die a slow painful death. They’re already “circling the drain.”

Funk, how so.

They’ve purposely structured this so they will (at worst) vote “Disapproval” which Obama will veto, and then it will be over. It was done deliberately. They didn’t have to consider this an agreement. Since they have, both Houses would need to override a veto, which won’t happen

KT, for now. They’ll be back.

Well, they’ll certainly try, no doubt.

That guy outside is still going. Awesome

Funk….Kerry certaily put it in terms that made the GOP look like isolationist amateurs.

Not hard, Murph

Howdy PPO

Hi PPO! How are you?

I think the neo-cons have a real uphill battle, considering how they really fucked up Iraq. They’ve learned NOTHING!

What’s up mate?

I still can’t believe they pulled it off. Against the backdrop of all the betrayal we’ve subjected them to. Against the background of all the harm they’ve perpetrated and the leadership of that poor country. To pull this off was remarkable!!

Hi, everybody! Whadda we up to today?

How ya goin’ Pink

KT – Why would any sane person listen to the Iraq warmongers?

you got me, Sabreen. Unfortunately, there are a lot of really dumb, and crazy RWers.

Funk….Iagree….here in the sordid heartland, the deal is another Obama betrayal….

I read where Turkey is now going to let US use two of their military bases. PBO ain’t effing around.

Yeah, Murph, peace is such a bummer!

Finestkind, funk – just catching up with the subject du jour.

Murph, even the President’s supporters I think don’t appreciate the special-ness of this accomplishment

Sabreen, I think Turkey just realized they’re next in ISIS’ sights, so allowing the US to use bases there is a no-brainer

I think Iran knows what time it is. They’ve got ISIL to deal with along with the sanctions.

Sabers the Atlantic had an article about analysis of the Iran deal. The three panelists were all supporters of the Iraq war. Sometimes the media, even the good ones are just lazy-asses

Funk….it is international affairs, not most Americans strong suit.

ISIS is, for now, mainly a middle-east, European problem, but they do need to be stopped. When an organization is even more radical than al qaida, Holy shit! No pun intended.

Hey PPO, do you have a pilot’s license?

We have the Bush/Cheney Iraq war to thank for ISIL.

KT, perhaps, but they use social media to radicalise youth and their message is penetrating more than I’d like to know.

I hope hope hope that this is the beginning of Iran engagement. They are one of the only rational actors in the Middle East. We could work with these guys if we’d pull our heads out of our orfices

Exactly PPO. They do need to be stopped.

Ad, I already have. Thankfully all 3 of my Congress critters seem likely to support it.

KT, not any more. did have but it was too expensive . Flew Cessnas, AA1 Yankees and Islanders

funk, the GOPers just can’t get out of the past. It’s not in their DNA.

Funk…I wouid not overstate Iranian rationality or civility.

AdLib – Did that. One of my Senators is Cardin, who is in Bibi’s pocket. He is truly disgusting when it has anything to do with Israel.

That’s cool PPO. I went to flight school, many years ago, and logged 14 hours, but, as you say, it’s expensive.

Murph, I am speaking comparatively of course.

Weird seeing 15000 Blue Jays fans at a Mariners game

Funk. What is going to move the Iranian government is a huge younger generation who want to enage the world….

Isn’t Iran partially democratic? And must they be like us?

Yep. Open it up. Waaaaaay up

Isn’t international politics so Effin Dumb!

Ad, very true. Let him know that 86% of voting American Jews support the deal. 0% of voting Israeli Jews in America support the deal

Yeah Ad, that is true. Theocracies suck. Maybe they can find some sort of middle ground.

AdLib- Every time I write him, I receive a “form” letter. Unfortunately, the stupid ass people in Maryland voted in the Rethug Hogan, so I don’t even know if Cardin would lose if primaried.

Folks, I gotta go make dinner for the missus. Have a great weekend!!

Japan, great allies and friends, even after we nuked them Germany – great friends and allies, even afer WWII. China…. I can go on, but you can see the insanity of forever demonizing a country.. until they’re your pals.

Later funk!

Good night Funk. Have fun cooking and have a great weekend!

PPO but, but, but Cuba and Iran are different…

Good night Funk

Murph,

Good Night, Funk!

I would say that Germany’s leaders in WWII and Japan’s had it coming, but the people of those countries sure didn’t deserve what they got. Isn’t that always the way?

Money always wins out, though, Ad. It pretty much always boils down to the haves and have nots.

brb

ad…funding is the key to message control and dissemination..a tough choice

No, they didn’t Ad. At the time, any citizen of Japan over the age of 14 was expected to fight any imminent invasion. Even women and old people. I’m sure they didn’t want that role. It was the Bushido warrior’s code that really made Japan suffer needlessly.

AdLib – But the problem is far too many people are not involved.

I think it’s a good thing that we have opened relations with Cuba. I wonder just how similar Castro’s son is to his old man. And the USSR no longer exists.

I would love to go to Cuba. I have friends that went a few years ago by way of Jamaica.

KT…..Ad….best estimates were that the cost of an invasion of the Japanese Home Islands would have been half a million U.S. casualties…the Japanese had a lot of troops in reserve AND the Soviets were waiting to pounce if given an opportunity. The A Bomb was meant to shock the Japanese government into surrender, given that the narrative claimed there were dozens of other weapons in reserve and that the Imperial City was next.

Ad….for the GOP Cuba and Iran are the same….both no-go zones no matter what.

I agree, to a point. We offered surrender terms more than once, but Japan refused, every time. I know we wanted Stalin to see the power nukes had, and Stalin was eyeing Japan for their next conquest. I think the first bomb was needed. Not the second one. More people died in the fire bombing of Japanese cities than did those who died from a boms, even many years later. I think the second bomb was merely a cruel scientific experiment. was

Well folks, I’ve gotta run. Have a great weekend and week. Nite. Nite.

Exactly Murph!

Sab, good to see you.

Sweet dreams Sabreen!

Ad….the GOP counts on a woefully ignorant base.

Murph, FOX NEWS is absolute proof of that!

Ad….thee was talk of dropping it in Tokyo harbor. After Okinawa I think all bets were off

Trump is the living embodiment of teapartyism triumphant.

I disagree Ad. Japan would not surrender, even after the first bomb wiped out an entire city. We should have stopped after the first and given Japan time to realize what we had done and could do again. As I said, the second bomb was just a cruel scientific experiment.

The Tea Party is the Second Know Nothings.

You must also remember the sheer hatred this country had for Japan at the time. Their murderous treatment of POWs was also a factor.

Japan was not innocent. Not at all. Too bad that the ordinary citizens of that country had to suffer so much. That is the way it always goes, though.

KT, that’s my point. even after the atrocities perpetrated, the US still worked with Germany and Japan and forged new alliances. Why not Iran?

I would like to think that the GOP is on it’s last legs, but ideology is a very hard thing to overcome.

The Tea Party were meant to be political cannon fodder – thus the sponsorship by the Kochs as organized by Freedom Works – but they have never quite marched in synch so the funding went away but the cancer had been sown and has spread. It is now at the root of much of their base and provides the glue holding it in place.

I agree PPO. Iran has not really been all that vicious towards us. Yeah, the hostages and all that, but that pales in comparison to Germany and Japan.

I agree Ad, until WWII, the bombing of civilians was considered taboo. But, that’s the nature of such massive warfare. Where do you draw a line, when your enemy draws no lines at all?

KT – ideology, yes, but Theology as well.

Isn’t it sad that unreason is still so prevalant? Sad indeed.

KT and Ad….Iran, as Persia, has a profound opportunity to provide the Middle East with religious that transcends absolutism. This deal is an important step in that direction.

no doubt PPO. Samey same, in my book.

So true, KT. Even have normal-ish relations with Vietnam, who whupped us!

I agree Murph. The Shias,don’t seem to be as hard core as the Sunnis.

Shhhhhh, PPO. It was a draw! Don’t ya know.

Peace with honor, is what Nixon called it, I believe. HA!

KT, Sorry! Forgot that, like Korea, it wasn’t a war at all!

KT….as the Muslim minority they have learned to get along. I agree with your assessment.

Yep. Just a police action, with fighter jets, tanks, artillery, machine guns, napalm…etc.

KT, yep. Rather like inner America these days, innit?

Ad…good comparison….Know nothingism melted down in much the same way.

…. without the napalm

Murph, they follow Muhammed’s nephew, not the prophet himself. Maybe some lee way there. I think.

Yes it is PPO.

america’s police forces are far too militarized now. Our cops are at war with our nations poor people, when they should be “protecting and serving.” You can blame racism and the war on drugs for that horrible realty.

KT and Ad…..with you both…

BRB

KT, the Koran is one book with different interpretations. Here, there are many different printings and interpretations of the Bible. Anyway, if we’re ‘Christians” shouldn’t we be reading only the New Testament?

Good question PPO. I’m an atheist, but I see the New Testament as god’s kid correcting his dad’s crankiness! It’s like, damn dad, you were a real prick, maybe we should soften our message here!

The GOP alternative is the threat of military action…that is all they have as there is nothing else.

KT, beautiful and accurate simile, but it wouldn’t suit the fundamentalists to talk only of peaceful methods to resolve conflict now, would it?

Sure Ad, it’s war. But when you have mandatory minimum sentencing for non-violent drug offenses, which are totally draconian, a for profit prison system, combined with decades old racism, you get what we see every day. It’s absolutely fucked up and not anywhere close to what our founders intended.

nope PPO. Fire and brimstone, and all that, cha know!

Ad, ISIS is a danger just by radicalizing US youth to do terrorist acts. That’s colose enough to home for me.

It’s funny PPO, but I see all the home grown gun violence here as a bigger threat.

Ad…it is a combination…..zealots believe in the sword…pragmatists believe in winning at all costs….a match made in heaven. I saw former Congressman West’s speech in Times Square last week and the crowd reaction…madness afoot.

We do seem to either be on the brink now, or rapidly approaching it, and nobody can seem to find the brakes.

KT, THERE WILL BE FIRE AND BRIMSTONE SPREADING OVER THE EARTH, AND PESTILENCE SHALL SPREAD EVERYWHERE! The rest of the forecast is for sunny periods and scattered showers.

brb. Smoko

LOL PPO! And lets not forget that our forcast calls for a Mexican high, followed by Canadian lows!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJkmHQ2q–I

The reaction to the most recent spate of shootings in my redneck woods is auto-responses about there being no bad guns only bad people.

Add the crazy idea of being allowed to kill someone, just because a person might feel threatened. Holy shyte! Stand your ground laws are a return to the wild, wild west!

I know Murph, I often ask these gun nuts when is the last time they can remember a gun, jumping up all by itself, and shooting someone.

Ad…..there is no discussion with folks like that only confrontation.

KT…..I get derisive laughter when I make comments like that.

Sad, isn’t it Murph. I believe that people should have a right to keep a gun IN THE HOUSE, for protection, and for hunting, but who needs a fricken weapon that can fire 700 rounds per minute? Who needs to carry concealed weapons, except for cash handlers and women working at night? I think most gun nuts are pussies.

Oh, me too Murph.

KT..I ama gun owner. I believe in licensing, registration and limitations on the weapons….most of my neighbors hate me for this.

That’s sad. I agree with you, 100%

The really sad part Ad, is that many of these morons hold positions of responsibility in our government.

Ad…that is my experience…..the fall back to nasty labeling and personal attacks is the key indicator that they have lost but they do not,cannot acknowledge it.

check out the Bill Maher vid above.

Ad, you may very well have a point about mental illness in youth. I mean, what kind of nutjob would mount a pistol onto a drone and spray bullets everywhere? There’s something very wrong with young peoples’ minds , engineered by the gun lobby and violent video games, IMO

Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies. Groucho Marx

KT….one of my neighbors wears a side arm and carries a rifle wherever he goes…..frightening and unstoppable.

I would never even want to live with such fear. Again, pussies.

Ad…and with that, claimingthey lostpatience with me, and told me off, they stride away, full of triumphant glory.

PPO Groucho and Karl….what a hoot.

Ad, perfect receptacle for ISIS poison, dontcha think?

Always loved Groucho.

today’s “ammosexuals!”

Ammosexuals, arsenalholics

Ad, I think you have hit the core of today’s problems – Amoral people hiding behind theocratical rantings to justify evil actions

I like it Murph. arsenalholics.

….. and where are the parents?

Well, I am done in….so until our next encounter….best to all.

Don’t fogert un abashed greed PPO. People who stock pile can foods, dry goods, water, and guns and ammo, for the coming apocalypse. They need the guns and ammo to keep needy people away. That way, they don’t have to SHARE. You know, like Jeebus wants them to.

Nice dreams, Murph1

Ad, I am awash in the rw and not taking them is seen as a white flag…so I battle on…

Goodnight, sweet Murph, and may flights of angels sing thee to thy rest!

PPO Shakespeare! Bardly bidding!

Nite KT…..dreamland awaits.

I, myself, must call it a night. Peace to all.

Will do Ad.

Always great chatting here with you.

So true, Ad. MAybe THAT will be his greatest legacy – calm among the insanity.

OK, Ad. Sorry I missed so much. Always great. Good night and see you next week.