Vox Populi, our live weekly chat begins tonight at 7pm PDT. Hope to see you then!
AdLib 5 hours ago
Boom!
funksands

3 hours ago
Hey Ad, wazz up?
KillgoreTrout

3 hours ago
Hey funk!
KillgoreTrout

3 hours ago
Hey KT!
funksands

3 hours ago
When you arrive, don’t forget to say “Hi!” or “Trump who?” when you arrive.
AdLib 3 hours ago
Hey KT and Funk!
AdLib 3 hours ago
Have I mentioned how much I love the erhu?
funksands

3 hours ago
The erhu?
KillgoreTrout

3 hours ago
Not today, Funk!
AdLib 3 hours ago
Hey Murph!
KillgoreTrout

3 hours ago
I have a lovely elderly Chinese gentleman playing it right across the street. It’s really lovely
funksands

3 hours ago
Hi Moiph!
funksands

3 hours ago
And hello to you too dear moderator
funksands

3 hours ago
What is the erhu? I’m not familiar with it.
KillgoreTrout

3 hours ago
Hello…kt, funk, ad…..
MurphTheSurf3

3 hours ago
I think the Repubs are right. The Iran deal should have been better. They should have agreed to buy iWatches for all Americans.
AdLib 3 hours ago
It’s that 1-stringed bowed instrument
funksands

3 hours ago
Hey Murph!
AdLib 3 hours ago
Ah, thanks funk.
KillgoreTrout

3 hours ago
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funksands

3 hours ago
crap
funksands

3 hours ago
JOn Stewart recently said that watching Trump’s campaign was as much fun as eating ice cream on a roller coaster made of blow jobs! HA!
KillgoreTrout

3 hours ago
Anyway, you know what it is now
funksands

3 hours ago
Boy am I going to miss him
funksands

3 hours ago
Yes, I do. I think I’ve heard that before and just couldn’t remember.
KillgoreTrout

3 hours ago
You need an http URLthat ends with a graphic last name like . jpg.
AdLib 3 hours ago
Yes yes yes
funksands

3 hours ago
Me too funk. He will definitely be missed.
KillgoreTrout

3 hours ago
You’re like that paperclip Ad: “It looks like you are trying to download a picture”
funksands

3 hours ago
KillgoreTrout

3 hours ago
I respect someone going out at the top of their game to pursue other passions. It’s got to be an utterly exhausting gig. I’ve listened to interviews with people on the show and they say that Stewart basically works 13-14 hour days working on everything on the show top to bottom
funksands

3 hours ago
KT – saw that, so funny. Imagine how hard it is for him not to spend every show on Trump.
AdLib 3 hours ago
well Ad, he’s doing pretty well, all things considered.
KillgoreTrout

3 hours ago
The Fellaciator!
KillgoreTrout

3 hours ago
The concerted effort by the establishment to take Trump down almost makes me feel sorry for him. But mostly it just makes me cackle
funksands

3 hours ago
Trump or Stewart?
AdLib 3 hours ago
brb
funksands

3 hours ago
I guess you guys saw the Wyatt Cenac flap. I can understand Wyatt’s feelings, but I think he is really being a bit thin skinned. Stewart does impressions of just about any ethnicity, including his own.
KillgoreTrout

3 hours ago
I like that Trump has threatened 3rd party on Repubs, they were organizing to get him out, now what?
AdLib 3 hours ago
Maybe The Donald can be the GOP version of Ralph Nader.
KillgoreTrout

3 hours ago
Vote Hillary. Vote Trump.
AdLib 3 hours ago
Maddow had a great piece on what Perot’s candidacy really meant for the election results. Good stuff. Her staff is really impressive
funksands

3 hours ago
Maddow may be all that is left over at MSNBC in the liberal purge that seems to be underway there.
MurphTheSurf3

3 hours ago
I have a wait and see attitude toward Hillary. I’d love to see Sanders get the nod, but I do worry about people misunderstanding the real brand of socialism that Sanders promotes. It could be a deal breaker with many dems. I hope I’m wrong.
KillgoreTrout

3 hours ago
Hello Planet. Happy “National Tequila Day”
Sabreen60

3 hours ago
Too true Murph. Entirely predictable unfortunately
funksands

3 hours ago
Hola Sabreen!
KillgoreTrout

3 hours ago
Sabreen, it so good to see you!
funksands

3 hours ago
And how are you celebrating this august holiday?
funksands

3 hours ago
I think MSNBC should definitely get rid of Scarborough.
KillgoreTrout

3 hours ago
No chance. Scarborough is locked in for years
funksands

3 hours ago
Funk, saw that. Maddow is right. Perot didn’t help Clinton win.
AdLib 3 hours ago
Hey Sabreen!
AdLib 3 hours ago
Why do you say that, funk?
KillgoreTrout

3 hours ago
scarborough is not on the list as he is not a liberal.
MurphTheSurf3

3 hours ago
Ad, I’ll admit that I myself had that conventional wisdom
funksands

3 hours ago
MSNBC will nosedive. Deservedly.
AdLib 3 hours ago
They are really going to give Chuck Todd his own show? Really? Whatever for?
KillgoreTrout

3 hours ago
Funk, I’m pretty “straight” forward. A shot of Tequila with a wedge of lime and salt to lick
Sabreen60

3 hours ago
Sab, I like that. Clean and neat
funksands

3 hours ago
Yes, his new show will be called, “MSNBC’s Chuck You!”
AdLib 3 hours ago
i also think MSNBC should bring back Olberman. He may be a bit egotistical, but he did say it like it was.
KillgoreTrout

3 hours ago
Funk –
Sabreen60

3 hours ago
Aren’t we all hungry for more Chuck Todd? He’s just so addictive.
AdLib 3 hours ago
Ad….MSNBC ratings have been of for a long while and the fix appears to be to make it more like an NBC secondary…thus Williams and Todd and a hard news focus
MurphTheSurf3

3 hours ago
Chuck Turd.
KillgoreTrout

3 hours ago
I think “UP! Chuck” is a great name for his show
funksands

3 hours ago
OK Sabreen, don’t say hi, see if I care!
KillgoreTrout

3 hours ago
Murph. – Because every show is redundant except Maddow. They all cover the same few stories with no depth. Boring.
AdLib 3 hours ago
I read that MSNBC has hired the black Republican Amy whats-her-face. I wouldn’t her even if she weren’t Republican. Talk about arrogant.
Sabreen60

3 hours ago
That said, I won’t miss Ed Schulz’s show. I like the guy, I like his politics, but his show is terrible. The Cycle is awful and Alex Wagner is just dull. Good people a victim of poor programming and production
funksands

3 hours ago
Oops “wouldn’t LIKE her”
Sabreen60

3 hours ago
Amy Holmes. She’s very very smart. Very dangerous.
funksands

3 hours ago
How about Melissa Harris-Perry? I like her and think she is smart and courageous.
KillgoreTrout

3 hours ago
I like both “Up Chuck!” And “Chuck Turd”!
AdLib 3 hours ago
KT, I like her a lot, and I like her show very much too. I always try to watch a few minutes of her show on Saturdays.
funksands

3 hours ago
Yep. Holmes. I really don’t like her attitude. She seems so full of herself.
Sabreen60

3 hours ago
She is very impressive funk, IMO.
KillgoreTrout

3 hours ago
I wish Chris Hayes would go back to his gig on the mornings. His show on the weekends was fantastic. His nightly show? Not so much.
funksands

3 hours ago
The MSNBC morning shows on the weekend are among their best.
MurphTheSurf3

3 hours ago
Hey Sabreen, I’m over here!
KillgoreTrout

3 hours ago
KT, I agree. She’s really begun to hit her stride. Her voice is very clear now.
funksands

3 hours ago
Perry and Kornacki…..
MurphTheSurf3

3 hours ago
KT – I see you, darling.
Sabreen60

3 hours ago
Hi Sab
MurphTheSurf3

3 hours ago
Murph!!
Sabreen60

3 hours ago
Murph, I just am not a big fan of Kornacki. I don’t know what it is, but he doesn’t do much for me.
funksands

3 hours ago
I think MSNBC has been putting out feelers on social networks. It would be nice if they let their viewers decide!
KillgoreTrout

3 hours ago
Ah shucks Sabreen! How have you been?
KillgoreTrout

3 hours ago
I got rid of cable, so of course I can’t watch any of the pundits. Actually, they all were beginning to get on my nerves. Maybe I’m becoming grumpy in my foxy old age
Sabreen60

3 hours ago
What I like about both is lots of content…..unusual guest lineup….hard, in-depth discussion.
MurphTheSurf3

3 hours ago
I must admit, I don’t have much skin the game, since I dropped my cable a few years ago.
KillgoreTrout

3 hours ago
The challenge is that liberals (like with everything else) are as easy to herd as wet cats. They get their information from dozens of different sources, and are very fickle consumers. IMO of course
funksands

3 hours ago
Yeah funk, those pesky free thinkers!
KillgoreTrout

3 hours ago
Sabreen, you are entitled to your grumpiness
funksands

3 hours ago
You too, KT. I breath better.
Sabreen60

3 hours ago
HA!
KillgoreTrout

3 hours ago
For me Sabreen it was a combination of cost/benefit and way too many commercials. Why pay people to try to sell me things.
KillgoreTrout

3 hours ago
Murph, for sure. The long form show really allows a depth of exploration of a topic.
funksands

3 hours ago
I’m stuck with cable right now, but am trying to extricate myself from Comcast. Ugh
funksands

3 hours ago
Good luck funk!
KillgoreTrout

3 hours ago
KT – Cost was part of it too. As far as I was concerned there were a gazillion channels with nothing on. And when Comcast began charging for 20 year old movies, we said enough!
Sabreen60

3 hours ago
SO. How about Hillary….more trouble (although exagerrated), a dull campaign, and growing unfavorables….
MurphTheSurf3

3 hours ago
Comcast sucks more than just about anything I’ve ever known. AND it is the only provider in our area. Monopolies suck. There’s an upstart company trying to shoehorn into our area. I’m on board the second they arrive.
funksands

3 hours ago
Murph, I didn’t read the NYT article, but over at TOD, people were saying that NTY got it wrong and should apologize.
Sabreen60

3 hours ago
Enough is right. Commercials are inescapable, even on the net, so why pay a provider to inundate us with more commercials?
KillgoreTrout

3 hours ago
Hillary HAS to be (and likely is) prepared for the kitchen sink to be thrown at her. The attacks against Obama will look petty compared to the shitstorm they’re going to launch against her.
funksands

3 hours ago
Dunk, Sab, I deal with Direct and since the ATT merger they are using more contract workers, and their base prices keep moving up.
MurphTheSurf3

3 hours ago
Sabers they did get it wrong. Once again the cream of our reporting crop took dubious information leaked by operatives and reported it as fact.
funksands

3 hours ago
funk, I agree, The GOP would rather have a biracial president than a female president.
KillgoreTrout

3 hours ago
Speaking of “Obama” I see that the “Kenyan” has gone home. Somebody said he should have said “it’s good to be home” just so Trump’s head would explode.
Sabreen60

3 hours ago
Especially a female Clinton President.
funksands

3 hours ago
I think as long as someone has a computer, there really is no need for cable TV.
KillgoreTrout

3 hours ago
Sabreen, I watched some coverage of his arrival on streaming Kenyan television. What an amazing experience he must be having right now. Amazing
funksands

3 hours ago
True dat funk!
KillgoreTrout

3 hours ago
Sab…that is the upshot re.criminal investigation but her server problem is going to continue to be a bonanza for the GOP
MurphTheSurf3

3 hours ago
funk, he’s certainly earned it.
KillgoreTrout

3 hours ago
2 months tops until Vince Foster re-surfaces in the “news”
funksands

3 hours ago
KT, he’s had pretty damn good month or two.
funksands

3 hours ago
E-mails and Benghazi! Over and over.
KillgoreTrout

3 hours ago
I am findingthe lack of GOP KenraPhoria of note.
MurphTheSurf3

3 hours ago
As we have too, funk.
KillgoreTrout

3 hours ago
Murph – Unfortunately Comcast is all we have in this new development. We’ve only been here 4 years. We bought this condo in a 62 and over development.
Sabreen60

3 hours ago
The Iran deal may very well be the most impressive accomplishment by an administration in quite some time. Really excellent and unprecedented
funksands

3 hours ago
I love how all the gopers are saying how bad the Iran deal is, yet they haven’t even read it.
KillgoreTrout

3 hours ago
Funk, will the GOP be able to derail the Iran agreement. P5 Plus 1 minus 1?
MurphTheSurf3

3 hours ago
Obama should have punked them and released a fake document that was blank and watched them hang themselves in the media
funksands

3 hours ago
Murph, no. The fix is in.
funksands

3 hours ago
The neo-cons will die a slow painful death. They’re already “circling the drain.”
KillgoreTrout

3 hours ago
Funk, how so.
MurphTheSurf3

3 hours ago
They’ve purposely structured this so they will (at worst) vote “Disapproval” which Obama will veto, and then it will be over. It was done deliberately. They didn’t have to consider this an agreement. Since they have, both Houses would need to override a veto, which won’t happen
funksands

3 hours ago
KT, for now. They’ll be back.
funksands

2 hours ago
Well, they’ll certainly try, no doubt.
KillgoreTrout

2 hours ago
That guy outside is still going. Awesome
funksands

2 hours ago
Funk….Kerry certaily put it in terms that made the GOP look like isolationist amateurs.
MurphTheSurf3

2 hours ago
Not hard, Murph
funksands

2 hours ago
Howdy PPO
MurphTheSurf3

2 hours ago
Hi PPO! How are you?
Sabreen60

2 hours ago
I think the neo-cons have a real uphill battle, considering how they really fucked up Iraq. They’ve learned NOTHING!
KillgoreTrout

2 hours ago
What’s up mate?
KillgoreTrout

2 hours ago
I still can’t believe they pulled it off. Against the backdrop of all the betrayal we’ve subjected them to. Against the background of all the harm they’ve perpetrated and the leadership of that poor country. To pull this off was remarkable!!
funksands

2 hours ago
Hi, everybody! Whadda we up to today?
pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago
How ya goin’ Pink
funksands

2 hours ago
KT – Why would any sane person listen to the Iraq warmongers?
Sabreen60

2 hours ago
you got me, Sabreen. Unfortunately, there are a lot of really dumb, and crazy RWers.
KillgoreTrout

2 hours ago
Funk….Iagree….here in the sordid heartland, the deal is another Obama betrayal….
MurphTheSurf3

2 hours ago
I read where Turkey is now going to let US use two of their military bases. PBO ain’t effing around.
Sabreen60

2 hours ago
Yeah, Murph, peace is such a bummer!
KillgoreTrout

2 hours ago
Finestkind, funk – just catching up with the subject du jour.
pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago
Murph, even the President’s supporters I think don’t appreciate the special-ness of this accomplishment
funksands

2 hours ago
Hey all, sorry I had to pop away for a bit.
AdLib 2 hours ago
Sabreen, I think Turkey just realized they’re next in ISIS’ sights, so allowing the US to use bases there is a no-brainer
pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago
I think Iran knows what time it is. They’ve got ISIL to deal with along with the sanctions.
Sabreen60

2 hours ago
Sabers the Atlantic had an article about analysis of the Iran deal. The three panelists were all supporters of the Iraq war. Sometimes the media, even the good ones are just lazy-asses
funksands

2 hours ago
Funk….it is international affairs, not most Americans strong suit.
MurphTheSurf3

2 hours ago
ISIS is, for now, mainly a middle-east, European problem, but they do need to be stopped. When an organization is even more radical than al qaida, Holy shit! No pun intended.
KillgoreTrout

2 hours ago
I think Dems should contact their Congresspeople and let them know that if they vote against the Iran deal, we will vote against them in a primary and we won’t contribute a penny to them in the future. Who are they most loyal to? AIPAC’s money or their constituents?
AdLib 2 hours ago
Hey PPO, do you have a pilot’s license?
KillgoreTrout

2 hours ago
We have the Bush/Cheney Iraq war to thank for ISIL.
Sabreen60

2 hours ago
KT, perhaps, but they use social media to radicalise youth and their message is penetrating more than I’d like to know.
pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago
I hope hope hope that this is the beginning of Iran engagement. They are one of the only rational actors in the Middle East. We could work with these guys if we’d pull our heads out of our orfices
funksands

2 hours ago
Exactly PPO. They do need to be stopped.
KillgoreTrout

2 hours ago
Ad, I already have. Thankfully all 3 of my Congress critters seem likely to support it.
funksands

2 hours ago
KT, not any more. did have but it was too expensive . Flew Cessnas, AA1 Yankees and Islanders
pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago
funk, the GOPers just can’t get out of the past. It’s not in their DNA.
KillgoreTrout

2 hours ago
Funk…I wouid not overstate Iranian rationality or civility.
MurphTheSurf3

2 hours ago
AdLib – Did that. One of my Senators is Cardin, who is in Bibi’s pocket. He is truly disgusting when it has anything to do with Israel.
Sabreen60

2 hours ago
That’s cool PPO. I went to flight school, many years ago, and logged 14 hours, but, as you say, it’s expensive.
KillgoreTrout

2 hours ago
Murph, I am speaking comparatively of course.
funksands

2 hours ago
And the only way to be able to work with Iran in the future and have the chance of supporting a true democratic government there, is engagement. But these Repub morons just kneejerk on this and think, “Evil country! Cuba and Iran! Just punish them!” Idjits.
AdLib 2 hours ago
Weird seeing 15000 Blue Jays fans at a Mariners game
funksands

2 hours ago
Funk. What is going to move the Iranian government is a huge younger generation who want to enage the world….
MurphTheSurf3

2 hours ago
Isn’t Iran partially democratic? And must they be like us?
KillgoreTrout

2 hours ago
Yep. Open it up. Waaaaaay up
funksands

2 hours ago
Sabreen – That’s a drag but you should still let him know you’re opposing him from now on if he votes as Bibi’s boy.
AdLib 2 hours ago
Isn’t international politics so Effin Dumb!
pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago
KT – Yes and no, they do have a democracy but they have crushed those who they don’t approve of running. The ultimate power there is religious.
AdLib 2 hours ago
Ad, very true. Let him know that 86% of voting American Jews support the deal. 0% of voting Israeli Jews in America support the deal
funksands

2 hours ago
Yeah Ad, that is true. Theocracies suck. Maybe they can find some sort of middle ground.
KillgoreTrout

2 hours ago
AdLib- Every time I write him, I receive a “form” letter. Unfortunately, the stupid ass people in Maryland voted in the Rethug Hogan, so I don’t even know if Cardin would lose if primaried.
Sabreen60

2 hours ago
Folks, I gotta go make dinner for the missus. Have a great weekend!!
funksands

2 hours ago
Japan, great allies and friends, even after we nuked them Germany – great friends and allies, even afer WWII. China…. I can go on, but you can see the insanity of forever demonizing a country.. until they’re your pals.
pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago
Later funk!
KillgoreTrout

2 hours ago
Good night Funk. Have fun cooking and have a great weekend!
Sabreen60

2 hours ago
Funk – This is important to keep pointing out. When hammering the Israeli government under Netanyahu, important to mention that it is not an indictment of the many Israelis who want peace. It may be a majority in Israel but it’s not a massive majority. Netanyahu almost lost control of power, clearly there are many Israelis who feel as we do.
AdLib 2 hours ago
PPO but, but, but Cuba and Iran are different…
MurphTheSurf3

2 hours ago
Night Funk!
AdLib 2 hours ago
Good night Funk
MurphTheSurf3

2 hours ago
Murph,
pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago
Good Night, Funk!
pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago
I would say that Germany’s leaders in WWII and Japan’s had it coming, but the people of those countries sure didn’t deserve what they got. Isn’t that always the way?
KillgoreTrout

2 hours ago
Sabreen – At least you do it out of principle despite the disrespectful form letter responses. They still keep tabs on how many letters oppose him.
AdLib 2 hours ago
Money always wins out, though, Ad. It pretty much always boils down to the haves and have nots.
KillgoreTrout

2 hours ago
KT – Agreed, surely the Japanese who were in the process of surrendering did not deserve being atom bombed.
AdLib 2 hours ago
brb
pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago
KT – Can’t disagree with that but if a pol sees his constituency turning on him, he has to re-consider whether he wants a well funded losing campaign.
AdLib 2 hours ago
ad…funding is the key to message control and dissemination..a tough choice
MurphTheSurf3

2 hours ago
No, they didn’t Ad. At the time, any citizen of Japan over the age of 14 was expected to fight any imminent invasion. Even women and old people. I’m sure they didn’t want that role. It was the Bushido warrior’s code that really made Japan suffer needlessly.
KillgoreTrout

2 hours ago
AdLib – But the problem is far too many people are not involved.
Sabreen60

2 hours ago
Murph – Cuba and Iran are different but the principle is the same. You can’t isolate a nation to get what you want from them. Only diplomacy offers a path.
AdLib 2 hours ago
I think it’s a good thing that we have opened relations with Cuba. I wonder just how similar Castro’s son is to his old man. And the USSR no longer exists.
KillgoreTrout

2 hours ago
KT – It was really the US that wanted to show the world that they had the atom bomb and what it could do. They wanted to use it so they did. They didn’t need to.
AdLib 2 hours ago
I would love to go to Cuba. I have friends that went a few years ago by way of Jamaica.
Sabreen60

2 hours ago
Sabreen – So true and so frustrating. The apathetic people are the ones handing the power to the greedy. All they have to do is vote and this would be a very different country. if we had an 80% turnout of eligible voters? America would be a very different and better place. I’m all for mandatory voting if it can bring about those kinds of numbers.
AdLib 2 hours ago
KT…..Ad….best estimates were that the cost of an invasion of the Japanese Home Islands would have been half a million U.S. casualties…the Japanese had a lot of troops in reserve AND the Soviets were waiting to pounce if given an opportunity. The A Bomb was meant to shock the Japanese government into surrender, given that the narrative claimed there were dozens of other weapons in reserve and that the Imperial City was next.
MurphTheSurf3

2 hours ago
Ad….for the GOP Cuba and Iran are the same….both no-go zones no matter what.
MurphTheSurf3

2 hours ago
I agree, to a point. We offered surrender terms more than once, but Japan refused, every time. I know we wanted Stalin to see the power nukes had, and Stalin was eyeing Japan for their next conquest. I think the first bomb was needed. Not the second one. More people died in the fire bombing of Japanese cities than did those who died from a boms, even many years later. I think the second bomb was merely a cruel scientific experiment. was
KillgoreTrout

2 hours ago
Well folks, I’ve gotta run. Have a great weekend and week. Nite. Nite.
Sabreen60

2 hours ago
Isn’t it ridiculous that the US could negotiate with North Korea, Iran, China, Russia, etc…but tiny Cuba, they are so dangerous, the Repubs insist we should shun them completely to make them stop being Cuba.
AdLib 2 hours ago
Night Sabreen!
AdLib 2 hours ago
Exactly Murph!
KillgoreTrout

2 hours ago
Sab, good to see you.
MurphTheSurf3

2 hours ago
Sweet dreams Sabreen!
KillgoreTrout

2 hours ago
Ad….the GOP counts on a woefully ignorant base.
MurphTheSurf3

2 hours ago
Murph – My proposition is that the US could have dropped an A Bomb in the Pacific, close enough to Japan to scare them but far away enough from them to cause no harm. I think we could have gotten the same results without killing so many innocent people in such horrible ways.
AdLib 2 hours ago
Murph, FOX NEWS is absolute proof of that!
KillgoreTrout

2 hours ago
Ad….thee was talk of dropping it in Tokyo harbor. After Okinawa I think all bets were off
MurphTheSurf3

2 hours ago
Murph – Hence the rise of the Ignorance Candidate, Trump.
AdLib 2 hours ago
Trump is the living embodiment of teapartyism triumphant.
MurphTheSurf3

2 hours ago
I disagree Ad. Japan would not surrender, even after the first bomb wiped out an entire city. We should have stopped after the first and given Japan time to realize what we had done and could do again. As I said, the second bomb was just a cruel scientific experiment.
KillgoreTrout

2 hours ago
Murph – I think that was a mistake. America hasn’t really considered what it meant to be the first nation to drom an atomic bomb on another country.
AdLib 2 hours ago
The Tea Party is the Second Know Nothings.
MurphTheSurf3

2 hours ago
You must also remember the sheer hatred this country had for Japan at the time. Their murderous treatment of POWs was also a factor.
KillgoreTrout

2 hours ago
Japan was not innocent. Not at all. Too bad that the ordinary citizens of that country had to suffer so much. That is the way it always goes, though.
KillgoreTrout

2 hours ago
Murph – It’s kind of funny that the GOP has been pandering so hard to the simple minded, anti-government hatred, with Palin as one of their key stepping stones, that when they finally got their Tea Party type Billionaire to run, they want to stop him so they can nominate another establishment Repub who will pander to them again but not deliver what they want.
AdLib 2 hours ago
KT, that’s my point. even after the atrocities perpetrated, the US still worked with Germany and Japan and forged new alliances. Why not Iran?
pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago
I would like to think that the GOP is on it’s last legs, but ideology is a very hard thing to overcome.
KillgoreTrout

2 hours ago
The Tea Party were meant to be political cannon fodder – thus the sponsorship by the Kochs as organized by Freedom Works – but they have never quite marched in synch so the funding went away but the cancer had been sown and has spread. It is now at the root of much of their base and provides the glue holding it in place.
MurphTheSurf3

2 hours ago
KT – For me, the issue is applying mass guilt, making all people of a country guilty of the sins of a minority and justifying killing any of them. Again, for me, it’s the kind of justification ISIS and Al Qaeda use, that all Americans deserve to be killed.
AdLib 2 hours ago
I agree PPO. Iran has not really been all that vicious towards us. Yeah, the hostages and all that, but that pales in comparison to Germany and Japan.
KillgoreTrout

2 hours ago
I agree Ad, until WWII, the bombing of civilians was considered taboo. But, that’s the nature of such massive warfare. Where do you draw a line, when your enemy draws no lines at all?
KillgoreTrout

2 hours ago
PPO – Agreed, reasonable people would want a normalizing of relationships with Iran. The key word here is reasonable.
AdLib 2 hours ago
KT – ideology, yes, but Theology as well.
pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago
Isn’t it sad that unreason is still so prevalant? Sad indeed.
KillgoreTrout

2 hours ago
KT and Ad….Iran, as Persia, has a profound opportunity to provide the Middle East with religious that transcends absolutism. This deal is an important step in that direction.
MurphTheSurf3

2 hours ago
no doubt PPO. Samey same, in my book.
KillgoreTrout

2 hours ago
So true, KT. Even have normal-ish relations with Vietnam, who whupped us!
pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago
I agree Murph. The Shias,don’t seem to be as hard core as the Sunnis.
KillgoreTrout

2 hours ago
Murph – This is the same thing that happened with the previous iteration of the Tea Party, The Moral Majority. They too were patronized and manipulated as hicks but they too grew tired of being treated that way and eventually became the tail wagging the dog. Which led to the crash of the GOP and the Moral Majority. When they finally win, it destroys both of them. If the Tea Party finally get “their” candidate as the Presidential candidate from the GOP and he loses massively, both will again be destroyed for years, repeating history.
AdLib 2 hours ago
Shhhhhh, PPO. It was a draw! Don’t ya know.
KillgoreTrout

2 hours ago
Peace with honor, is what Nixon called it, I believe. HA!
KillgoreTrout

2 hours ago
KT, Sorry! Forgot that, like Korea, it wasn’t a war at all!
pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago
KT….as the Muslim minority they have learned to get along. I agree with your assessment.
MurphTheSurf3

2 hours ago
Yep. Just a police action, with fighter jets, tanks, artillery, machine guns, napalm…etc.
KillgoreTrout

2 hours ago
KT, yep. Rather like inner America these days, innit?
pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago
Ad…good comparison….Know nothingism melted down in much the same way.
MurphTheSurf3

2 hours ago
…. without the napalm
pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago
Murph, they follow Muhammed’s nephew, not the prophet himself. Maybe some lee way there. I think.
KillgoreTrout

2 hours ago
Yes it is PPO.
KillgoreTrout

2 hours ago
Murph – Agreed, a normalized Iran would put welcome pressure against the absolutist Muslims. Don’t we want Iran to become a more responsible nation? How else can they be influenced if we won’t have a relationship with them…and be in a position to offer carrots instead of always sticks. The Iranian people don’t all hate America, many of them like America, they just can’t speak out publicly to say so.
AdLib 2 hours ago
america’s police forces are far too militarized now. Our cops are at war with our nations poor people, when they should be “protecting and serving.” You can blame racism and the war on drugs for that horrible realty.
KillgoreTrout

2 hours ago
KT and Ad…..with you both…
MurphTheSurf3

2 hours ago
BRB
KillgoreTrout

2 hours ago
And ol’ Scott Walker is singing that McCain classic, “Bomb-omb-bomb, bomb- bomb Iran!” Really? On his first day in Bizarro World where he becomes President, he bombs Iran? How idiotic is this guy to say that?
AdLib 2 hours ago
KT, the Koran is one book with different interpretations. Here, there are many different printings and interpretations of the Bible. Anyway, if we’re ‘Christians” shouldn’t we be reading only the New Testament?
pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago
KT – It’s almost alternating days, police abusing or causing the death of an African American and some lunatic with a gun killing innocent citizens. You can almost set your watch by it.
AdLib 2 hours ago
Good question PPO. I’m an atheist, but I see the New Testament as god’s kid correcting his dad’s crankiness! It’s like, damn dad, you were a real prick, maybe we should soften our message here!
KillgoreTrout

2 hours ago
The GOP alternative is the threat of military action…that is all they have as there is nothing else.
MurphTheSurf3

2 hours ago
KT, beautiful and accurate simile, but it wouldn’t suit the fundamentalists to talk only of peaceful methods to resolve conflict now, would it?
pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago
Sure Ad, it’s war. But when you have mandatory minimum sentencing for non-violent drug offenses, which are totally draconian, a for profit prison system, combined with decades old racism, you get what we see every day. It’s absolutely fucked up and not anywhere close to what our founders intended.
KillgoreTrout

2 hours ago
Murph – Do you think Repubs genuinely want to go to war against Iran or is it just cynical pandering to their base and a way to stick a thumb in Obama’s eye after achieving a peace treaty. How would we pay for such a massive war? Do they really think the public is more scared of Iran than ISIS, neither of which really threatens this nation.
AdLib 2 hours ago
nope PPO. Fire and brimstone, and all that, cha know!
KillgoreTrout

2 hours ago
Ad, ISIS is a danger just by radicalizing US youth to do terrorist acts. That’s colose enough to home for me.
pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago
KT – No kidding. The extremists in the GOP who have brought about much of the over-arming of Americans and the insitutionalization of racism, never stop to consider the consequences. When the last straw breaks the camel’s back, and I think we’re pretty close, society becomes more fragile and worse things can happen.
AdLib 2 hours ago
It’s funny PPO, but I see all the home grown gun violence here as a bigger threat.
KillgoreTrout

2 hours ago
Ad…it is a combination…..zealots believe in the sword…pragmatists believe in winning at all costs….a match made in heaven. I saw former Congressman West’s speech in Times Square last week and the crowd reaction…madness afoot.
MurphTheSurf3

2 hours ago
We do seem to either be on the brink now, or rapidly approaching it, and nobody can seem to find the brakes.
KillgoreTrout

2 hours ago
KT, THERE WILL BE FIRE AND BRIMSTONE SPREADING OVER THE EARTH, AND PESTILENCE SHALL SPREAD EVERYWHERE! The rest of the forecast is for sunny periods and scattered showers.
pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago
brb. Smoko
pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago
LOL PPO! And lets not forget that our forcast calls for a Mexican high, followed by Canadian lows!
KillgoreTrout

2 hours ago
PPO – What’s the difference between a mentally ill young person killing innocent citizens for ISIS and a mentally ill older man killing innocent citizens out of paranoia? The mentally ill are capable of killing, many of those who have killed as fans of ISIS are mentally ill too. The problem is mental illness. Is there anything ISIS could say in a video that would make a reasonable person go out and kill innocent citizens? I don’t think so.
AdLib 2 hours ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJkmHQ2q–I
KillgoreTrout

2 hours ago
KT – I agree, tens of thousands of people have died in the last decade due to gun violence, maybe dozens have been killed by terrorism, there’s no comparison, rampant gun ownership and racism kill far more Americans.
AdLib 2 hours ago
The reaction to the most recent spate of shootings in my redneck woods is auto-responses about there being no bad guns only bad people.
MurphTheSurf3

2 hours ago
Add the crazy idea of being allowed to kill someone, just because a person might feel threatened. Holy shyte! Stand your ground laws are a return to the wild, wild west!
KillgoreTrout

2 hours ago
Murph – Yes, the less educated, emotionally driven types that make up the core of the GOP want simple, physical answers to solving problems. They understand hitting things with hammers to stop them, not negotiating using strategies and intellect.
AdLib 2 hours ago
I know Murph, I often ask these gun nuts when is the last time they can remember a gun, jumping up all by itself, and shooting someone.
KillgoreTrout

2 hours ago
Ad…..there is no discussion with folks like that only confrontation.
MurphTheSurf3

2 hours ago
Murph – Yep, simple answers for those who need them. And BTW, that’s kind of a dumb deflection by them, no bad guns? How can an inanimate object be bad. But it can be dangerous. If a toddler picks up a gun, the gun still isn’t bad…it’s dangerous though in the minds of reasonable people. But to win their argument, they have to say that “liberals” think guns are “bad”.
AdLib 2 hours ago
KT…..I get derisive laughter when I make comments like that.
MurphTheSurf3

2 hours ago
Sad, isn’t it Murph. I believe that people should have a right to keep a gun IN THE HOUSE, for protection, and for hunting, but who needs a fricken weapon that can fire 700 rounds per minute? Who needs to carry concealed weapons, except for cash handlers and women working at night? I think most gun nuts are pussies.
KillgoreTrout

2 hours ago
Oh, me too Murph.
KillgoreTrout

2 hours ago
Murph – I know, those kinds of folks have a brick wall constructed around their reasoning centers, either you agree with them or you’re an idiot or an adversary. There is no sense of wanting to know the truth. They need to believe in what they do, it is a pillar of their identity and they are beyond reasoning and truth.
AdLib 2 hours ago
KT..I ama gun owner. I believe in licensing, registration and limitations on the weapons….most of my neighbors hate me for this.
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
KT – It does seem self-explanatory, only people who are frightened need to over-arm themselves. Insecure, frightened people. You know, the GOP base. They spend every day frightening themselves about immigrants, Muslims, black Presidents. They are addicted to fear, hence the Fox News channel, white man’s fear meth.
AdLib an hour ago
That’s sad. I agree with you, 100%
KillgoreTrout

an hour ago
The really sad part Ad, is that many of these morons hold positions of responsibility in our government.
KillgoreTrout

an hour ago
Ad…that is my experience…..the fall back to nasty labeling and personal attacks is the key indicator that they have lost but they do not,cannot acknowledge it.
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
check out the Bill Maher vid above.
KillgoreTrout

an hour ago
Ad, you may very well have a point about mental illness in youth. I mean, what kind of nutjob would mount a pistol onto a drone and spray bullets everywhere? There’s something very wrong with young peoples’ minds , engineered by the gun lobby and violent video games, IMO
pinkpantheroz

an hour ago
KT – Very true, the ignorant cowardly leading the ignorant cowardly.
AdLib an hour ago
Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies. Groucho Marx
pinkpantheroz

an hour ago
KT….one of my neighbors wears a side arm and carries a rifle wherever he goes…..frightening and unstoppable.
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
Murph – Yep, once they resort to personalizing things, name calling and dissing, it’s because they’ve quickly run out of legit reasons for believing wht they do. So they have to attack and devalue the person, that’s the only game they think they can win and by winning that, they believe they win their argument on the issue.
AdLib an hour ago
I would never even want to live with such fear. Again, pussies.
KillgoreTrout

an hour ago
Ad…and with that, claimingthey lostpatience with me, and told me off, they stride away, full of triumphant glory.
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
PPO – That is an example of an amoral kid who’s probably seen too many action movies and video games and though it was “cool”.
AdLib an hour ago
PPO Groucho and Karl….what a hoot.
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
PPO – Great quote! Big Groucho fan myself and I like that quote a lot!
AdLib an hour ago
Ad, perfect receptacle for ISIS poison, dontcha think?
pinkpantheroz

an hour ago
Always loved Groucho.
KillgoreTrout

an hour ago
today’s “ammosexuals!”
KillgoreTrout

an hour ago
Ammosexuals, arsenalholics
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
KT – Exactly! These RWs acutally boast about what pussies they are, how scared they are of the outside world. Why don’t their fellow non-cowardly Repubs call them on being the pussies that they are? “I never go anywhere without two guns.” “Then you are a frightened pussy?”
AdLib an hour ago
Ad, I think you have hit the core of today’s problems – Amoral people hiding behind theocratical rantings to justify evil actions
pinkpantheroz

an hour ago
I like it Murph. arsenalholics.
KillgoreTrout

an hour ago
….. and where are the parents?
pinkpantheroz

an hour ago
Well, I am done in….so until our next encounter….best to all.
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
Don’t fogert un abashed greed PPO. People who stock pile can foods, dry goods, water, and guns and ammo, for the coming apocalypse. They need the guns and ammo to keep needy people away. That way, they don’t have to SHARE. You know, like Jeebus wants them to.
KillgoreTrout

an hour ago
Murph – Yep, I swore off debating RWs because you can’t win a point on an issue, it uusually comes down to them lying and throwing around insults. like trying to debate angry chihuahuas. No point.
AdLib an hour ago
Night Murph!
AdLib an hour ago
Nice dreams, Murph1
KillgoreTrout

an hour ago
Ad, I am awash in the rw and not taking them is seen as a white flag…so I battle on…
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
Goodnight, sweet Murph, and may flights of angels sing thee to thy rest!
pinkpantheroz

an hour ago
PPO Shakespeare! Bardly bidding!
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
PPO – Maybe so. There are so many voices now that justify amorality, from the Kochs to the Kardashians, from Miley Cyrus to Donald Trump, from Wall Street to the Supreme Court. And it’s a relief for some people to get under the amoral umbrella, they can justify doing terrible things.
AdLib an hour ago
Nite KT…..dreamland awaits.
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
I, myself, must call it a night. Peace to all.
KillgoreTrout

an hour ago
One thing that Obama has displayed is a sense of morality in a time of amorality.
AdLib an hour ago
Night KT! See you on the Music Thread!
AdLib an hour ago
Will do Ad.
KillgoreTrout

an hour ago
Always great chatting here with you.
pinkpantheroz

an hour ago
Well, looks like it’s time to close the Vox bar for the night! Have a great weekend KT and PPO! See you here next week!
AdLib an hour ago
So true, Ad. MAybe THAT will be his greatest legacy – calm among the insanity.
pinkpantheroz

an hour ago
PPO – I do think that will be how he is remembered.
AdLib an hour ago
OK, Ad. Sorry I missed so much. Always great. Good night and see you next week.
pinkpantheroz

an hour ago
Night PPO! Same here, always a kick!
AdLib an hour ago

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