Vox Populi – 3-13-2015

Hey, Adlib! This Spring Forward/Fall Back is messing with my head, ‘cos I don’t know when we get started!

pinkpantheroz

Hokay! Just checking the news for comments, not that there will be a dearth of those with the traitors on The Hill.

pinkpantheroz

Well, almost! ‘the Fools on the Hill!”

pinkpantheroz

Cotton with the foolish grin is sitting perfectly still, but nobody seems to like him and they think that he’s just a fool.

pinkpantheroz

pinkpantheroz

BRB, Smoko! ( smoke break)

pinkpantheroz

Hi Ad–fools on the hill indeed.

glenn

Ad–we also have snakes in the grass called “cottonmouths”. Fitting, don’t you think?

glenn

And the excuses for signing this letter are coming fast and furious. My favorite is that it was a “joke”. Ha Ha!

glenn

Hey, glenn!

pinkpantheroz

Hey PPO–I was waiting for you to get back from your smoko to say hello. How are you?

glenn

Well, glenn, thank goodness. Nice warm day here.

pinkpantheroz

PPO–glad to hear it.

glenn

I hear that Putin has gone walkabout. I hear he was in for a rectum transplant, but it rejected him! Wonder if he’s going to sign the letter as well

pinkpantheroz

Ad and PPO–Here’s a new one for me regarding our “favorite son” from Canada. Little teddy cruz. Seems he went to a meeting of firefighters to ignite a spark and the firefighters threw cold water all over his new idea. Did you know that teddy wants to abolish the IRS? And send the 100.000 or so IRS agents who lose their jobs to guard the southern border? Now, that’s presidential material–NOT!

glenn

PPO–Naw, Putin is going to address Congress on the merits of the Iran deal. After all, Russia is one of the 5+1 who are actually FOR the deal. Ironic, isn’t it? Repubs may have to choose between two of their “heroes”, putin and netanyahu.

glenn

glenn, it makes sense! Abolish the IRS, then the 1% don’t ever have to worry about taxes any mo….Oh, wait a minute! Come to think of it, if the IRS were abolished, all the Tax Lawyers and Accountants could defend the southern border as well. Works for me!

pinkpantheroz

Ad–looking forward to your satirical article. There is a “reply from Iran” posted on crooks and liars. Loved it!

glenn

BRB again

pinkpantheroz

PPO–Sure it makes sense in bizarro world. With no taxes, who is paying cruz’s salary? Who will pay for all those new “border patrol agents”? Who will pay for our military and our vets? I think little teddy failed Logic 101 at Harvard. Either that, or he saw the “L” at the beginning of the word and thought it meant “liberal” and we all know he wants nothing to do with liberals.

glenn

Ad–but as I said above, Russia is one of the 5+1 countries who are negotiating FOR the deal. But you may be right, the repubs would send the tweet anyway.

glenn

Ad–and once again, irony rears its ugly head. The firefighters union was one of walker’s biggest supporters in WI.

glenn

Ad–did you watch the tape? Normally, I can’t stand to watch any of cruz’s videos because I can’t stand his voice. But this tape was absolutely priceless when he paused, looked around for his applause, and got none! I actually enjoyed it so much, I watched it several times.

glenn

Ad–No, I’m sure that in repub world 5+1 equals an evil UN plot! What is that conspiracy theory they have about the UN? Doesn’t that add up to 5+1?

glenn

Ad–yup. I have no sympathy for the firefighers. They invited walker to their conference, but he declined to attend. Coward!

glenn

Ad–Also an article today where a retired general was interviewed and he says that the 47 are not treasonous; they are mutinous. And that he was surprised that cotton didn’t understand about the chain of command.

glenn

Ad–5+1=socialist muslim kenyan communist nazi+ black.

glenn

Did you watch rachel maddow tonight? According to her, Christie is toast! Seems like his “settlement” with Exxon is coming to bite him in the …. Apparently the people of NJ are just a tad upset that Exxon got a 95% “discount” on the deal, thanks to Christie.

glenn

Ad–LOL! Is that real math or just math you do as a republican to make yourself feel better?

glenn

Ad–yup. Republican budgeting at its finest.

glenn

Ad–listened to any good hip-hop lately? Be careful, it may turn you into a racist!

glenn

Ad–I keep wondering how these people get into office. The only silver lining I see is that when the vote is nationwide and for president, Dems finally show up. And when Dems show up to vote, Dems win. I’ m still so pissed at all those Dems who sat our the midterms. That’s why we have 47 senators like cotton. As you say, the idiots who put these people into office may be happy, but the rest of us have to suffer the consequences. I’m also still pissed at the DNC for not standing up for all Dem candidates, and for those Dem candidates, like Allison Lundergan Grimes in KY, who ran away from the President and f***ing lost!

glenn

I am here. Got this message when I tried to sign in: Access Denied Your IP address has been identified with spam activity and denied access. If this is a mistake, please use the contact form at this site to notify an administrator. SO…I fill out the form and it let me in.

murphthesurf3

Ad–so now you have a side of gsr to go with your g&t?

glenn

Murph–welcome! Glad you perservered!

glenn

Hello Planeteers. Hope everyone is well. Sign the petition #47Traitors: 279,609 and counting: https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petitions/popular/0/2/0/

sabreen60

Hey Sabreen–already signed.

glenn

Good for you glenn! Since the media is mum Twitter has been on fire.

sabreen60

Ad–back to the money. Do you think that’s where we are? That money will trump all, no matter how many Dems vote? I guess I’m still an optimist and believe that “we the people” can make a difference. Tilting at windmills, I guess!

glenn

AdLib, when I first tried to long on, I was called “SPAM”

sabreen60

Sabreen–I have seen the petition source and even articles about it at a couple of on-line sites I visit, but I guess television and newspapers aren’t covering it. I don’t watch much news on tv anymore.

glenn

All I can say is that anyone who voted for Cotton were out of their Cotton-picking mind!

pinkpantheroz

glenn, I read online that 22 newspapers had very negative editorials about the traitors. However, corporate TV is pretty hush, hush. Of course, they’re all over Hillary’s emails.

sabreen60

Sabreen–I do watch Maddow and Stewart and Wilmore for news, but that isn’t news; it’s more analysis. But, I haven’t heard anything about the petition on those sources.

glenn

AdLib it was the chat window. I just closed my browser down and when I came back up, it was okay.

sabreen60

Ad, I got back in on a second try. Thank you

murphthesurf3

Ad, the spam thing happened to me yesterday as well.

pinkpantheroz

Sabreen–Yes, newspapers are covering the letter, but not the petition. That’s what I meant. And, don’t you love all the excuses coming from the 47 now that they had their asses handed to them?

glenn

Ad Lib…I spoke a bit about the Red Map Project that did just that…turned state legislative districts red and that is the key to the disaster of 2010.

murphthesurf3

Ad, It seems to come up if you paste anything into a comment. It was on the site and I was in Time out

pinkpantheroz

glenn – I haven’t heard anything about the petition either. The newspapers were about the letter. I don’t the petition is getting any coverage. I did read this petition has more signatures that any other – EVAH.

sabreen60

Murph–so how do we reverse that disaster? Ad and I were just talking about that.

glenn

AdLib, where?

sabreen60

Ad–So what is Obama’s reaction to the petition?

glenn

Oh and what did the President say about the petition. I just heard him mention the letter.

sabreen60

Sabreen: check this:

pinkpantheroz

I’m surprised Breitbart would even mention it.

sabreen60

PPO–WOW and on Breitbart, no less.

glenn

Wouldn’t it be incredible if the 47 were stood down pending criminal charges!

pinkpantheroz

AdLib – I doubt if anything will come of the petition. However, I just don’t want to see these traitors get a pass. What they did could be very dangerous, not to mention totally disrespectful to the President and the Constitution.

sabreen60

PPO–Went and took a quick look at it. “force the president to give the ‘far-left’ what they want”. Hmmm, I really didn’t think I was “far left” just “far fair”.

glenn

PPO, You were gone but, it’s 279,609 and counting. I would love to see it hit half a million.

sabreen60

Glenn and Ad…I was at a meeting yesterday as part of group that made three points. 1) The Dems cannot beat the GOP at the money game. 2) The Dems are going to have to admit that the party’s number one problem is that its base is not organized or disiplined. 3) It is going to have to address number with massive registration, photo ids and indoctrination (yes indoctrination) campaigns that instill the sense of purpose and discipline the GOP have. WE HAVE THE LARGER NATURAL BASE AND WE ARE LOSING, AND WILL LOSE UNLESS WE CHANGE OUR STRATEGY AND TACTICS RADICALLY….I.E. GO BACK TO WHAT WE DID IN THE VIETNAM WAR AND CIVIL RIGHTS STRUGGLES. This was a Democratic planning meeting and the “leadership” was not happy with us…at all…not at all.

murphthesurf3

Sabreen–I doubt it too. Don’t those 47 realize that they represent the US too? And that what they have said is the US cannot be trusted to keep its agreements? I just cannot fathom how a snowstorm could make you think this letter was a good idea. The snowstorm being John McCain’s excuse, dontcha know?

glenn

Ad, I don’t know Breitbart. I just googled the prez and petition

pinkpantheroz

glenn, It’s Breitbart. Get much more conservative than that.

sabreen60

OK, Ad. At least they reported it!

pinkpantheroz

Ad, I found Andrew Breitbart just what a media-starved nation needed

funksands

Amen Murph.

funksands

I hope you’re doing OK there in the Moscow General ICU, funk? Happy Friday, Planeteers!

kesmarn

Murph–The Dems tried the massive registration thing here in GA and while they did get many people registered, our republican SOS threw out almost as many. I can’t remember the numbers off the top of my head, but I know it was in the thousands. So, yes, voter registration is very necessary, but the actual voting is also necessary. Plus you have to get the registrations certified.

glenn

Hey Funk! How are you?

glenn

Kes, I’m here reporting on the stroke/coup/death of Putin. Very big news.

funksands

Murph – It’s like the President keeps saying. 36% of registered voted in the midterms. Maryland a bright blue state elected a Republican Gov because Dems sat home. We need the kind of organization that President Obama had during 2008.

sabreen60

Oh! Good to know you’re there in a journalistic role — I wouldn’t want to be a patient there. How IS Vlad the Impaler doing?

kesmarn

Glenn. I agree but Dem registration campaigns are amateurish and are not set up to repel GOP challenges. Begin with photo id’s. Get everyone registered and then focus on getting them to vote six months in advance.

murphthesurf3

Hiya Funk!

sabreen60

Kes, rumor has it that Putin’s been taken out because of his investigations into 9-11

funksands

Hey kes!

sabreen60

Hey kitty!

funksands

Hey, Sabreen! funk — any reason will do.

kesmarn

Ad- I hear you but the Oval Office without at least one House is frustration city. when does the GOP move on the electoral college en-masse and move to link electoral votes to electoral districts.

murphthesurf3

Hey, AdLib! Looks as though the Gang of 47 is having major buyer’s remorse.

kesmarn

Sab…your Maryland example is an excellent one. Same thing in Il.

murphthesurf3

Kes – McCain said that he signed the letter because he was in rush to leave town because of the snow.

sabreen60

The GOP lied us into eternal war, torture, 3 million Iraqi refugees, 1 million dead, 4K dead soldiers, an entire generation of broken soldiers, and spent 1 Trillion doing it. They now control both houses of Congress. No wonder they want eternal conflict.

funksands

Sabreen, and of course the snow was all Obama’s fault

pinkpantheroz

Sabreen — I think he must have picked Palin for a running mate with the same level of good judgment.

kesmarn

The 47….this is not a matter of Treason but of a combination of indolence, unfiltered hatred for Obama, war lust, and a blissful ignorance and highly praised arrogance in regard to the operation of government.

murphthesurf3

Murph, they knew damn well what they were doing. They don’t care! Hard-liners just care about the ends, not the means.

funksands

Ad….if the GOP gainst more and more control of the state legislatures, how will redistriciting help us.

murphthesurf3

Murph, you forgot a few other things, especially mental illness!

pinkpantheroz

Funk – I want to believe the voting machines are rigged – anything except people are dumb enough to vote for Republicans over and over. I mean even with voter suppression and gerrymandering, it’s still more of us then it is of them.

sabreen60

Funk….it is a mixed bag but those in control behind the scenes know how to pull the strings.

murphthesurf3

I read a little of Cotton’s bio. I think he’s a sociopath or psychopath. Seriously!

sabreen60

I’ve read that Cotton is basically the creation of William Kristol and his cronies. Lots and lots of $$$ from them to him.

kesmarn

PPO..there is something delusiona about a lot of this.

murphthesurf3

Problem is that I don’t think anyone knows how big a problem voter supression really is. That takes a lot of time to unpack.

funksands

Kes, we have 47 monkeys, but who are the organ grinders?

pinkpantheroz

Sab…Arkansas trade a conservative dem for an off the wall GOP….who is likely to serve them better.

murphthesurf3

People like Sheldon Adelson and the Kochs, I think PPO!

kesmarn

Problem with our hard-liners is that they work cheap. Doesn’t take much to buy them off and make them march.

funksands

Funk – I agree. I believe they knew exactly what they were doing. They hoped this was ad Bibi and disrupt the peace talks with Iran.

sabreen60

Kes, I do wish that the contributions of those cretins were labeled as corruption and their asses kicked into jail

pinkpantheroz

The number of swing districts has been reduced to less than 8 percent per Nate Silver.

murphthesurf3

Republicans don’t care if you think they’re liars, or crazy or stupid as long as they get what they want. Dems care.

funksands

So do I, PPO! What they’re doing is accepting bribes. That should be illegal.

kesmarn

Murph–so what is the implication of those only 8 swing districts? That they are solidly repub and can’t be “swung” or vice versa?

glenn

Money is speech Pink. That means Romney’s grandkids are born with more speech than mine. Just as Jefferson wanted.

funksands

Adlib, and all hogs are fully fueled and ready for takeoff!

pinkpantheroz

sorry 8% swing districts

glenn

Funk, as us ppor types have laryngitis

pinkpantheroz

PPO–so you’re saying pigs can fly?

glenn

And when you add in our bought and paid for media….

sabreen60

Glenn, swing translates as purple…so a mix of red and blue which red legislatures want to redraw as red.

murphthesurf3

I saw some amazing video of Cruz giving his typical Libertarian speech to a convention of firefighters, thinking he’d get enthusiastic applause. Total silence. Crickets. It happened over and over. He’d stop after saying “I’m going to abolish the IRS” (or something like) and — nada.

kesmarn

Pink just have wealthier parents. Simple

funksands

Kes, that would have been fun to watch.

funksands

Make it so, Ad

pinkpantheroz

Kes–Ad and I were talking about that cruz video earlier. I thought it was hilarious!

glenn

BRB

pinkpantheroz

I should try to find the link for you, glenn. It was funny — and weird at the same time!

kesmarn

Funk–yup little teddy wants to abolish the IRS and “reassign” the IRS agents to border patrol agents! Of course, who is going to pay for cruz’s salary and the “reassignment” if no taxes are coming in was not addressed.

glenn

Oh– you’ve already seen it then. His old tricks are just not working anymore. Ted looked even more confused than usual.

kesmarn

Ad…I do not want to base my hope on the GOP misusing power and the public waking up to it

murphthesurf3

Kes–I saw it. In fact, I watched it several times because I loved it so much.

glenn

Murph, I’m with you. Creeping normalcy has already set in with the GOP Congress. The public simply sees this Congress as how things are done. People can get used to a lot of abuse.

funksands

It was awesome. Like a really bad comedian having the worst flop-sweats ever!!

kesmarn

Ad–what’s with the pink screen behind him? I wondered about that when I watched the video.

glenn

That was it, AdLib!

kesmarn

*tough crowd*

funksands

Kes–I know, his beady little eyes kept looking around for someone–anyone–to applaud! No takers!

glenn

A few hecklers would have been nice. But maybe this was even better!

kesmarn

Funk…exactly so….given the general lack of context that most live with as normalcy the wrong headnedness of the current Congress is not at all clear.

murphthesurf3

Kes–Silence is golden, but laughter would have been even better than hecklers!

glenn

Laughter would have been good too. And maybe shoe hurling…?

kesmarn

Kes–do you think cruz has as fast a reaction time as gwb?

glenn

Wow! All Cruz needed to do was reach for some water.

sabreen60

If you get a chance to watch CRUZ AT THE FIREGIGHTERS UNION….in its entireity. The LONG pregnant pauses are excruiating. Where there are chuckles they happen at the end of a long periodof silence- clearly at his expense.

murphthesurf3

Murph–oh good, there were chuckles. He deserves it. Remember Chuckles the Clown?

glenn

He’s pretty dodgy, glenn. But these guys were firefighters. My money would be on them.

kesmarn

The GOP turning the public against them….maybe by raw numbers but the battle is in legislative districts constructed to be unassailable.

murphthesurf3

Murph–this is the problem, isn’t it? Even if we have the raw numbers, we still have those “unassailable” districts. However, that is all the more reason to turn out for every election!

glenn

Glenn…Cruz is sharp but when he meets a group that does not act as he expects he tends to freeze up and then look disdainful: You STUPID People!

murphthesurf3

LOL! Maybe a loud ticking sound too. And a guy with a long pole with a hook on the end of it to pull him off stage by the neck? Where is Simon Cowell when you need him?

kesmarn

If the answer is building the coalition and the farm team from the bottom-up (as I believe it is) the solution is many years off.

funksands

BRB

funksands

Murph – There most be a way. Do we have to wait until the next census to make changes.

sabreen60

Glenn….we are going to need a series of tsunami elections.

murphthesurf3

Sabreen, yes. Permanently changing the laws that underly most of these issues will take an act of Congress, which won’t happen.

funksands

Murph–I agree. I think the DNC puts too much emphasis on national elections and not enough on the local/state elections. That’s how we got to where we are now.

glenn

Aren’t some states looking at legislation that would force redistricting to be done by an impartial, independent panel?

kesmarn

Ad Libe – we are going to need a series of Tsunamis and that is not going to happen through PR blitizes, on the airwaves, on big events.

murphthesurf3

Kes–I have seen something about that, but if those states are red states, forget it!

glenn

Glenn….it was with the agents of the DNC that my group was arguing.

murphthesurf3

Kes–plus they have to get all of the anti-abortion and anti-gay legislation out of the way first.

glenn

Murph–Right, I understood that. Keep arguing with them, please!

glenn

True… that will keep them busy for several decades…

kesmarn

Good evening everyone – what crises abound tonight?

choicelady

Hey, CL!

kesmarn

Hello CL!

sabreen60

Hi Choice….47 Varieties.

murphthesurf3

Call them Heinz – 10!

pinkpantheroz

Hes kes, Sabreen, AdLib, Murph, funk, glennPPO! Did I miss anyone? So good to see everyone!

choicelady

Hiya, CL. Good chats today.

pinkpantheroz

Kes–there is hope, though. A Dem in Colorado has added a rider to the legislature’s anti-gay bill that says that those businesses who want to discriminate on “religious grounds” have to put a sign in the window saying, “We practice discrimination.”

glenn

At least some Senators are getting new nicknames. Now we have “Tehran Tom” (their version of Hanoi Jane) and “Snowball Inhofe.”

kesmarn

Hi Murph – I thought it was Heinz ONE variety with 47 ingredients?

choicelady

CL- How to rid the country of baggers once and for all.

sabreen60

Sabreen – oh please, please tell me how we rid ourselves of baggers!

choicelady

Oh, glenn! I saw that! That is great. If they’re going to discriminate, let them own it. In public.

kesmarn

Hey CL–We’re all here, but I’m not sure how much longer I’m staying.

glenn

glenn – sorry I’m so late we might get scant time to talk! Hope you’re well?

choicelady

Cl…that is the Dem label, the 47 I am referring to is GOP

murphthesurf3

CL, I’m in and out with bits to do.

pinkpantheroz

Kes–Yes, I thought it was a brilliant tactic!

glenn

CL–Yes, I’m well, thanks, and you?

glenn

Murph – I know those lovely, treacherous 47 GOPers

choicelady

glenn – tired after two days on the road and a major fight with supposed allies today. Too old for the latter. Maybe too old for the former!

choicelady

BRB – Gotta listen to Lena Horne sing Stormy Weather in that movie.

sabreen60

Sabreen – THAT is worth going away for!

choicelady

CL–keep up the good fight! You’re never too old!

glenn

AdLib – LOL!!

choicelady

So sorry to hear that you were hit by friendly fire today, CL!

kesmarn

kes – that’s EXACTLY what happened! glenn – thanks for the vote of confidence!

choicelady

Can you talk about it, or would you rather not…?

kesmarn

funk – I see you’re in Moscow general ICU. Are you there with Snowden? Say howdy for us.

choicelady

He says he’s sitting at Putin’s bedside, CL.

kesmarn

Ad–so what are we jumping off (of)?

glenn

kes – I will turn fogey and say there is a bill written by people who do NOT know what they are doing who blew me off and turned in a major POS. I wrote a letter blasting the bill, and now their feefees are all hurt. (They actually said they were hurt) They locked me OUT of the deliberation, are all under age 30, and I want to stomp on them with my old lady shoes.

choicelady

kes – always figured Snowden would suck up to the manly man.

choicelady

AdLib – after the day I’ve had, telling me to jump is PROBABLY not a good idea?

choicelady

I(f I vanish, it may be tech-related. My ‘puter is slowing waaaay down all of a sudden.) Oh, CL…how disheartening. I have a feeling this will come back to haunt them. But that’s probably small consolation…

kesmarn

Speaking of jumping off, time for me to jump off, or in my case, totter off, to bed. G’night all. I hope everyone has a great weekend!

glenn

Nite nite glenn. Take care.

sabreen60

Sleep well, glenn! G’night!

kesmarn

Choice you have been fightting the fight I see.

murphthesurf3

kes – I am sorry about your ‘puter. But yes I agree. I’ll win. I just don’t want the work.

choicelady

Good night, glenn – hope we can talk more next week!

choicelady

Nite, glenn.

murphthesurf3

CL – I read you over at the Peoples View. Great articles by Spandan and your comments were spot on.

sabreen60

Murph – I am definitely fighting ageism. Some upstart kid lectured me about legislative codes. That is what I DO, and they do NOT, and I figure it’s like someone sniffily telling a neurosurgeon, :You know, the brain is part of the nervous system.” Grrrrr.

choicelady

Those generational battles are always difficult because there seems to be an excessive amount of stereotyping involved. As in: “All of them always act THAT way.”

kesmarn

Sabreen – YOUR comments were amazing! Thank you – you add so much!

choicelady

kes – I know a lot of millennials I like. This group of self satisfied progs, not so much.

choicelady

I agree. Lots of great millennials, but when they go bad, they REALLY go bad.

kesmarn

AdLib – BINGO – weasels. Perfect. Little hyper creatures running in the underbrush thinking they’re important.

choicelady

kes – I got shut out of the conversation in Sept. Then was accused of not being collegial. Hello? Who did this?

choicelady

What are you supposed to do? Bake them cookies and tell them how clever they are?

kesmarn

Anyway I have a very good bill as an alternative to substitute for the horrific and ILLEGAL mess they made, but they won’t back down. AdLib – it’s just a bill to incorporate worker cooperatives. Simple, straightforward. Theirs actually makes changes that would be illegal by federal standards, and it’s unsusable. But they’re so…progressive, y’know.

choicelady

Choice…were you able to down a chill pill or did you cold cock him?

murphthesurf3

kes – yup. that’s it.

choicelady

CL – As I said, I believe, on TPV, I rarely read articles about people using the “n” word. But I find it interesting that millennials seem to be guilty of these acts.

sabreen60

Murph – it was a woman, and the fact she still lives is testament to my humanity.

choicelady

Sabreen – at the heart this is actually an issue. They disdain minorities, working people, etc. and want to dictate what cooperatives may do because they have no faith in workplace democracy.

choicelady

Slapping has its place in the range of human behaviors, AdLib! Its value should not be underestimated!

kesmarn

AdLib – I’M WITH YOU ON BITCH SLAPPING!

choicelady

Cl….ok, not cold cock, but slap silly.

murphthesurf3

AdLib – yup.

choicelady

Murph – If she had been in my face, she’d have been slapped for her arrogance.

choicelady

AdLib – this is their THIRD shot at it, they have alienated three of the most progressive legislators in CA, and I have a problem?

choicelady

Sounds as though what she lacks in experience and good judgment, she makes up for in over-confidence and arrogance.

kesmarn

kes – LOL! She’d call that ‘balance’.

choicelady

AdLib – I do not recall at that age being THAT arrogant about knowing everything.

choicelady

LOL! Yes, and it wouldn’t be a bug, it would be a feature.

kesmarn

kes – YouTube here I come!

choicelady

Sorry everyone

funksands

Boomer busts baby. Film at 11.

choicelady

Make it look accidental though. So no charges are pressed. Oops! I must have had a mini-stroke. My hand just flew out of control into your face!

kesmarn

AdLib – if someone with street cred as far as legislative stuff goes offers advice, would that not be USEFUL? But noooo. Last year the bill was SO BAD it never made it to the first committee. THAT is a bad bill.

choicelady

Few too many interruptions at home. Going to watch a show with my my awesome 10 year old.

funksands

AdLib – YUP – these are kids of endless privilege who think every fart they pass is golden perfume.

choicelady

Choice, sorry didn’t get to hang out. Have a great weekend everyone!!

funksands

Enjoy, funk!

kesmarn

funk – you’re definitely on Dad duty. Sorry to miss you – have a great weekend!

choicelady

A WORD ABOUT FERGUSON…..the news folks are not reporting a big registration push, this time that is working, big turnouts to the City Councilor town hall meetings, and a major push to topple the mayor…better late than never.

murphthesurf3

Bye funk..

murphthesurf3

Please don’t tell me these children are making over 6 figures for the “work” they’re doing….?

kesmarn

Murph- that is GREAT news!!!

choicelady

Good night Funk.

sabreen60

kes – I doubt it, but they are quite well compensated. The woman now heads a NATIONAL organization that, I heard from a reliable source, is giving VERY bad legal advice to cooperatives. Yikes

choicelady

Murph, that city government good ole boy core is falling at the rate of about one each day. Good.

kesmarn

Choice…my group is back involved. We got called and asked what it would take to get us reinvested in the cause. Our answer. “Listen to us.”

murphthesurf3

kes – this may finally convince people that local politics are very important.

choicelady

Absolutely! Silver lining.

kesmarn

Murph – listening is good. Is Rev. Seku (sp?) any use? I know him a bit from out here.

choicelady

CHoice…just weighing in, so the jury is out.

murphthesurf3

Murph – he would not remember me, but his work here was always pretty measured and good, but then we didn’t have Ferguson’s problems either.

choicelady

Well, kids. Almost midnight here, so I’ll have to call it a day. Hope it’s a restful weekend for all. And maybe even a fun one, if we’re all lucky

kesmarn

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kesmarn

BRB – The Nicholas bros dancing

sabreen60

night to you kes!

murphthesurf3

kes – thank you so much for letting me unload. Have a GREAT weekend. Hope to talk next week and be more upbeat.

choicelady

good night, kes

pinkpantheroz

Sabreen – too funny!

choicelady

Love the Nicholas brothers! OK G’night one more time!

kesmarn

Good night, kes!

choicelady

Anyone – where is KT? Haven’t seen him for about 2 weeks I think. Is he OK?

choicelady

Choice…..Rev. Osagyefo Uhuru Sekou? Yes, well met, very experienced, laid back right now.

murphthesurf3

Murph – yes, that’s his name. I like him so far as I’ve worked with him which isn’t much.

choicelady

CL, he’s around. I see his posts on Time Out. Maybe he’s busy Fri nights

pinkpantheroz

Nite kes. Take care!

sabreen60

PPO – thanks – I’ve been so busy, I’ve not seen TO/OT at all.

choicelady

AdLib – I’m not sure what the email fracas will produce. Since apparently EVERYONE does it, I think this will blow over. I do want others in the race, but save O’Malley whom Sabreen knows, I don’t see likely contenders.

choicelady

Ad…..I am surprised at how little impact the Server-Gate “scandal” has had to date on the Dem. base…does it not matter.

murphthesurf3

AdLib – glad KT is OK.

choicelady

Murph – the emoprogs are in a twist over ServerGate. I actually don’t care much once I found out how many officials everywhere do the same.

choicelady

Ad, I think anyone throwing stones in that particular glasshouse would be very unwise. It will blow over, and rightfully so. In any event, who could even start to match HRC in visibility, except for Joe?

pinkpantheroz

Murph – the problem with the emos being upset is they will throw their 1% vote behind another Jill Stein. It won’t help.

choicelady

AdLib – I agree. It’s all that which worries me: what ELSE is out there? I think her real problem is the Clinton Fdn. money. Yikes.

choicelady

I have read that the scuttlebutt in State – servers out of date, leaking like sieves, hacked all the time…top level people, get your own communication media…

murphthesurf3

Murph – I think because Colin Powell had his own server, maybe people don’t see it as that big a deal. I’m taking a wait and see position.

sabreen60

Sabreen – yes, it was the Powell revelation that made me really not care!

choicelady

AdLib – very solid point.

choicelady

As to the broader question….just from this point of view….Hillary needs a robust challenge within the party…she seems out of shape and out of place rightnow.

murphthesurf3

Murph – another very solid point.

choicelady

Ad, good point, but every candidate of any hue has weaknesses and soft spots, so pounding on the Clinton Past can have repercussions on both sides.

pinkpantheroz

Choice, thank you.

murphthesurf3

CL – I have got to have my distractions from all the crazy.

sabreen60

PPO – I think we fear the Clinton present!

choicelady

CL, what present? she hasn’t announced

pinkpantheroz

Sabreen – YES! I have started reading intricate novels in the vein of Dan Brown – puzzles grounded in ancient history about which I neither believe nor care. VERY helpful!

choicelady

Ad we have many reasons to want a robust field of GOP candidates and that is one of them.

murphthesurf3

PPO – Her times as SoS. Recent enough. BENGHAZI and all that jazz.

choicelady

CL, try Colleen McCulloch’s Roman Empire stuff, supposed to be great

pinkpantheroz

PPO – I am wedded to modern day mysteries with those roots. Can’t relate to togas…

choicelady

Murph – I agree. I wish some unknown, bright light with a brilliant mind would appear.

sabreen60

CL, with you there. My legs are too skinny

pinkpantheroz

PPO – my mother adored McCulloch’s books. I like the past influencing the present stuff.

choicelady

Sabreen – Michelle, maybe???????????

pinkpantheroz

PPO – Did ANYONE look good in a toga?

choicelady

ElizBETH tAYLOR PHWOAR!

pinkpantheroz

PPO – Michelle says no, and like E. Warren, I believe them both.

choicelady

PPO -?????

choicelady

AdLib – very good point on that. Maybe Biden or O’Malley have a shot?

choicelady

CL, Elizabeth Taylor wore one in some movie or other. YUM!

pinkpantheroz

PPO – Ohhhh. I’d agree.

choicelady

AdLib – he’s my choice. He won’t do it either.

choicelady

AdLib – you remember Obama’s story of early days and how tired he was already when that amazing woman kept saying, “Fired UP! Ready to GO!” I thought that was a great story about what a terrible thing campaigning really is.

choicelady

I want a Dem debate stage that has Biden, O’Malley, Sanders, Warren, and Clinton on it. I am looking for a Black and a Hispanic. Any ideas.

murphthesurf3

PPO – I really don’t think the country is ready for another AA in the White House. I don’t think I’m ready actually. I’ve had about as much vitriol as I can handle for a while. If fact, we’ve got two more years.

sabreen60

Murph – either of the Castro brothers.

choicelady

Sabreen – I am with you there. Isn’t that sick?

choicelady

Choice…enough experience? I’d go with either.

murphthesurf3

Murph – as Veep. Not as Pres.

choicelady

AdLib – I advanced for Moscone in his race for governor. I was a lot younger, and it was awful.

choicelady

CL..I am focused on the debates, and a bit on the race itself.

murphthesurf3

Murph – the debates may weed folks out, yes.

choicelady

CL – I like the Castro brothers. Wouldn’t be a kick to have a President Castro? Talk about heads exploding.

sabreen60

Signing off till next week. Good Vox tonight. Cheerio everyone.

pinkpantheroz

Sabreen!!!!! Too funny!

choicelady

Oh g’day PPO – lovely to see you, even if you’re NOT in a toga. Your’e not are you?

choicelady

CL…mostly i want a stage on which Hillary looks good (if she does) in a group of diverse, smart people who represent the wideness of my party.

murphthesurf3

AdLib – it had its fun, but it’s exhausting.

choicelady

PPO…Cheers!

murphthesurf3

CL, nope, just fishnets and……oops

pinkpantheroz

PPO!!! TMI, dear. TMI!

choicelady

I really like Deval Patrick. But he says no way.

sabreen60

OK – we have the Veep locked. Now who for president?

choicelady

Sabreen – I know. That was a loss.

choicelady

Nite PPO!

sabreen60

Ad….she could in which case we better have a understudy. Thus the debate stage.

murphthesurf3

I agree Murph. I want to see several Dems running.

sabreen60

AdLib – very cool analysis says part of the loss in 2014 was due to a fixation on women’s reproductive issues. As much as I am totally devoted to that cause, I think it’s correct – back to “it’s the economy, Stupid” even now.

choicelady

Hillary is too locked into the PUMAs, and they are too narrow in focus.

choicelady

CL….”It’s the Economy Stupid” and “She’ll keep us out of War”

murphthesurf3

AdLib – and he says he’ll be a Dem, but then VT will be pissed.

choicelady

Murph – problem is, I’m not sure I believe she’ll keep us out of war.

choicelady

Hey Harleigh – c’mon down!

choicelady

Well it’s after midnight here, so I’m gonna say Good night. Take care y’all. Oh, and sign the petition. https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petitions/popular/0/2/0/

sabreen60

CL…which is why we need that debate stage to push her on this. No war without a draft and no exemptions.

murphthesurf3

Sabreen – take care, dear friend. I already signed. Thanks for reminding everyone. Be well!!!

choicelady

Murph – I’m with you on that!

choicelady

Where’d Harleigh go?

choicelady

I am going too. Nite all.

murphthesurf3

Good night, Murph – I[‘m heading out, too. Sorry to abandon you, AdLib – hope you have a good book!

choicelady

AdLib – I also think there is very little they can do to push this nation into a war. Good night, dear AdLib – hope your week is great!

choicelady

Hey peeps!

killgoretrout

No night owls here this day?

killgoretrout

I hope this isn’t turning into a geriatric site! LOL!

killgoretrout

Hey Ad, what time is it in your zone? 100pm?

killgoretrout

Wow!

killgoretrout