I have to go out for a while my friends,hope to catch you later.I am in the middle of a move too!

beatlex

oh dear, am I alone here?

vegasbabe

AD LIB!! You know, I was thinkin’….about your moniker…..? Wassup with that

vegasbabe

I mean who IS that guy?

vegasbabe

?hmmmm…I don’t get it! Not the movie “Boys From Brazil” right

vegasbabe

my user name or my picture? and yes, you are indeed a very smart man as your posts have proven time and again…

vegasbabe

Je suis Charlie!

glenn

LMAO….dont know this movie Ill have to check it out sometime!

vegasbabe

So what are we discussing tonite? Mitt Romney is seriously considering another run….that should be good for at least a few laughs!

vegasbabe

Hi Ad, Hi Las Vegas Babe, how’s everyone? Happy New Year, a little late.

glenn

Not late, just in time. Happy New Year to you as well Glenn! Hope all is good where your hailing from!

vegasbabe

This new vox populi is coooooool! I quite like it!

vegasbabe

LVB–which will come first? romney convicted of racketeering charges or a run for the presidency?

glenn

Alas my friend, he’ll never be convicted but on the good side he’ll never POTUS either! be

vegasbabe

LVB–A little cool here in the red state of GA. Lows in the teens, with the wind chill factor, we had a -1 temp yesterday morning. Other than that, I’m fine. How about you?

glenn

Oh dear…don’t make me confess to temps here in LV when you’ve just experienced -1….its…well, embarassing

vegasbabe

LVB–maybe he’ll never be convicted, but seriously–he’s going to run for president with racketeering charges hanging over his head? Of course, in teabagistanland, that’s a plus, but seriously? And, the best part is the charges are being filed by a private individual, not the government!

glenn

Other than enjoying ur temps, I’m as well as can be expected for an old lady! AdLib LOL

vegasbabe

Looks like CL is in the house, hello dear, how you be?

vegasbabe

Happy New Year everyone! Hope 2015 is off to a good start personally. Hi Vegasbabe!

choicelady

LVB–it’s okay about the temps. I used to live in the Keys and I wasn’t at all embarassed about touting the warm weather!

glenn

glenn – how’s your weather now?

choicelady

Tired as usual but hanging in. How are YOU?

choicelady

Glenn well in that case, yesterday it was 72 ! BUT it may rain here for the next three days….yeah right!

vegasbabe

Ad–47% of us say “no to mittro!”

glenn

VB – if you don’t like the rain, send it to CA. We need MORE!

choicelady

glenn – MORE than 47% Just Say No to Mitt!

choicelady

CL I know right!!!

vegasbabe

CL–still cold, but at least the wind has died down. High today was a whopping 41 degrees! Supposed to warm up to the 60’s tomorrow, but then rain and 30’s again on Sunday.

glenn

Hey CL–glad you’re here with your tired self.

glenn

glenn – at least it appears you’ve missed the worst of the Polar Vortex. Middle of the country is teens or even single digits. I’m glad it’s not THAT bad.

choicelady

Now this new vox automatically tells us where we are hailing from I noticed??? We’re coming up in the world! Before you know it, we’ll all be 1%ers LOL

vegasbabe

AdLib – I do worry. Sacramento is still ahead of normal, but it’s bee dry and will be dry for another two weeks.

choicelady

LVB–glad to hear someone is having some warm weather.

glenn

VB – yeah that’s VOX – jet setters all!

choicelady

Evening all

sillylittleme

Hi SLM – how are you? Hope you’re not freezing!

choicelady

Hey SLM–Happy New Year–a little late, but better late than never!

glenn

Beatlex….Edmonton….Canada or UK?

vegasbabe

AdLib – ooooh I want a tequila sunrise! Barring that a Bailey’s Irish Cream.

choicelady

AdLib…..looks like I’m gonna need to submit a donation huh? Its probably more than time!

vegasbabe

AdLib – TYVM!

choicelady

Ad–I’ll take the Bailey’s with some decaf coffee, please.

glenn

I’ll have what CL’s having thank you!

vegasbabe

Choice – fairly cold in northern MA yesterday was an insane 2 degrees at noon. -4 overnight. getting a bit better. 20s for the weekend and the pats game

sillylittleme

CL–TYVM????

glenn

VB – I lived in Pawtucket and Lawrence back in the 80s and remember bone cracking cold. You HAVE MY SYMPATHIES!

choicelady

glenn – TYVM – Thank You Very Much.

choicelady

CL dearest, I think you meant that for SLM….I’m in Vegas and have no complaints weather wise a’tole

vegasbabe

CL–thanks–I’m really sitting low in my seat tonight–just couldn’t figure that one out!

glenn

Happy New Year – glenn et al

sillylittleme

VB – yes, sorry -I DID mean it for SLM in MA.

choicelady

Good Friday evening, kids! Can’t remember the last time the furnace shut off here on the tundra. How’re you all?

kesmarn

hey kes – experiencing the same here

sillylittleme

Very good kesmarn, thank you for askin’ and you?

vegasbabe

KES!!! Yes indeed – friends in Y’town are feeling the pain, too. So it makes CA whining about 40s very sloppy.

choicelady

Ad–I see Martin O’Malley is thinking of throwing his hat into the presidential ring. Didn’t someone here on VOX say how much s/he admired him?

glenn

glenn – that’s Sabreen who’s an O

choicelady

Doing well, VB. Not looking forward to the heating bill, but “I’ll think about that tomorrow…”

kesmarn

Sorry – and O’Malley supporter. I’m REALLY glad to see him in!

choicelady

CL whats an “O”

vegasbabe

Hey Kes–I’m trying to stay warm here in GA, too.

glenn

kes – the Scarlett O’Hara approach is always good.

choicelady

It’s worked so far, CL!

kesmarn

VB – hit the wrong key and sent it too soon. See the follow up.

choicelady

glenn – you have enough warm clothes?

sillylittleme

Love the fact that O’Malley commuted those death sentences in MD. Good guy.

kesmarn

AdLib – “strumble”? THAT is a good word!

choicelady

A rumble with a strudel?

kesmarn

kes: YES that was very good on O’Malley’s part!

vegasbabe

kes – even better definition.

choicelady

kes

sillylittleme

SLM–Yes, after three and a half years up here, I have enough warm clothes. I have on my sweat pants, trouser socks, another pair of “footie” socks over those, my slippers, two turtleneck long-sleeved shirts and a sweatshirt, and that’s inside with the heat on!

glenn

glenn: WOW!!!

vegasbabe

glenn – see if you can get your hands on some fleece, less layers, stay warmer

sillylittleme

glenn – that is almost identical to MY outfit, and that’s with the 40s outside. We are having heating problems and keep the furnace low. My “Merry Christmas” present will be a new H/AC unit. Sigh.

choicelady

AdLib – I’m thinking strudel isn’t the problem. It’s perhaps the libations?

choicelady

CL–I think we have discovered in previous VOX conversations that we are of the same mind, so it doesn’t surprise me.

glenn

I see Sabreen!

choicelady

Maybe it was rum + strudel?

kesmarn

Hiya funksands….ah…yeah, why does it say your chatting from the New york police department break room?

vegasbabe

hey harleigh – just in time, I just sparked up

sillylittleme

Funkie’s location changes weekly!

kesmarn

glenn – women of a certain age (cough) are allowed to put comfort over fashion especially when they are alone. And we STILL ROCK!

choicelady

Hello Planeteers! #FreeCommunityCollege

sabreen60

Harleigh! How are you!

choicelady

Ad–Yup, warm and cozy. The coffee and Bailey’s helps, too.

glenn

Bonjour! Bonsoir à vous tous belles dames!

funksands

hey sabreen and funk

sillylittleme

AdLib – yup. Knew it…

choicelady

Sabreen….YES! I love that idea!

vegasbabe

Merci, Monsieur le Funk!

kesmarn

funk – damn. Are you in Paris? Be careful!

choicelady

I used to cook with wine! Sometimes I put some in the food! WC Fields.

Harleigh

VBabe, its the quietest spot I could find with a wi-fi signal

funksands

Hey, Harleigh!

kesmarn

Harleigh – one of WC’s best lines.

choicelady

Hey Sabreen, Harleigh, Funk….Wow everyone’s coming in so quickly, I can’t keep up!

glenn

Glenn, I know right? Good so many planeteers are here anyway!

vegasbabe

LOVE your location, Funk – have they sussed out who you REALLY are?

choicelady

Yes it was my little chickadee. LOL

Harleigh

CL–Yes, we of a “certain age” have to stay comfortable!

glenn

I’m committing a crime just by being here CL, so they are ignoring me.

funksands

glenn – even with my back problems, I wore heels for the first time in 3 years and SURVIVED. It’s giving me confidence again.

choicelady

funk – good thing they’re on a work slowdown or you’d be toast.

choicelady

Funk–isn’t the break room pretty crowded–what with all that “work stoppage” and all. Are the cops facing you or have they turned their backs on you?

glenn

funk: HA! Careful there son…..you are in dangerous territory!

vegasbabe

Ad, je ne ai aucun commentaire cochon anglais

funksands

glenn – the NYPD turning backs on Funk might be his best option.

choicelady

CL, they’re all watching the “Bachelor”

funksands

funk – LOL!!!

choicelady

CL–I bought a pair of boots recently with a wedge heel, and I’ve worn them a couple of times, but I always feel as though I’m walking funny in them. Usually can’t wait to get them off.

glenn

glenn – it’s taking off the “killer clothes” that has become the best sensation ever.

choicelady

Glenn, I think I’m in a safe spot! LOL

funksands

Ad/Sabreen – wish he’d expand it to all state and federal owned colleges

sillylittleme

BRB

funksands

SLM – the college issue has to go through Congress. Like THAT will happen…

choicelady

CL–Depends on whom you’re taking them off for!

glenn

SLM – outside of the military academies, I’m not sure there ARE any federal colleges.

choicelady

glenn – for some reason wedges are the bane of my existence. I seem to find my way either face down or on my bottom hugging the ground.

sabreen60

CL exactly! But nonetheless, it’s a fantastic idea! I love our Prez!

vegasbabe

glenn – Ohhhhhhh tooo true!

choicelady

Sabreen — sorry, got called away for a bit — great news about the community college plan!

kesmarn

Sabreen – NO ONE can walk in wedgies.

choicelady

True Choice, but we need to do something to educate the boatload of kids…

sillylittleme

VB – I totally agree. It is a wonderful idea. CA had that for several decades, and we were the best educated work force in America. Bring it back nationally!

choicelady

Ah oh, we lost funksands…..given his location I’d call the cops but I think we’d be safer calling ghost busters!

vegasbabe

Sabreen–glad to hear I’m not the only one who can’t wear wedgies. I just though it was too many years of only wearing sandals in the Keys!

glenn

All – I can walk in wedgies. Actually find them better than stems

sillylittleme

Now if we can only get the funding for the community college idea….

kesmarn

SLM–you are indeed a special woman!

glenn

SLM – even with that, there will be huge populations that don’t benefit which is why I’m working on worker ownership of business. I’m the point person in CA for 1worker1vote, the US Steelworkers/Mondragon Coop Corporation US initiatiave. You can check it out at 1worker1vote.org

choicelady

glenn – no just short, wedgies were always preferable…

sillylittleme

SLM – you CAN? Wow – I am impressed.

choicelady

slm – I watched/listened to PBO’s speech in TN. The Repub governor and legislative have initiated the free 2 year community college program. Senator Lamar Alexander (R) was in the audience grinning from ear to ear. However, he later said the community college thing is good for “individual states” but not on the fed level. Republicans will be Republicans.

sabreen60

people just laugh and point when I wear my wedgies or stems!

Harleigh

Sabreen, Kes–I admit I didn’t read the whole article, but from the headlines I read, I thought the community college funding was paid for somehow. Maybe I’m just doing “republican” math.

glenn

“legislature”

sabreen60

Sabreen – I heard about the TN effort. But of course Alexander doesn’t get that it IS a state initiative just funded nationally.

choicelady

thanks choice – its about time employees got a bigger cut of the profits

sillylittleme

Harleigh–but, which do YOU prefer?

glenn

SLM – they would get ALL the profit as the owners.

choicelady

uh my gold sandals LMAO

Harleigh

choice – even better

sillylittleme

Harleigh..hee-hee-heee

vegasbabe

funksands

Harleigh–be sure you don’t wear your gold sandals with your silver choker. You know that is a serious faux pas!

glenn

And unlike Employee Stock Option Plans, every person, janitor to CEO, gets ONE vote. Different amounts of pay and money but only ONE VOTE on how the company runs.

choicelady

How about Obummer and his COMMIE UNITY Colleges??

funksands

funk – we were just celebrating the community college issue. Catch up dear.

choicelady

Ad–lamar really didn’t say that, did he?

glenn

funk….you tryin’ to start somethin’? LOL

vegasbabe

Choice – awesome, I’ll checkout the site later

sillylittleme

Damn….

funksands

AdLib – I can imagine Lamar saying just that!

choicelady

Hey! Did you all see I’m in the NYPD break room??? Huh?

funksands

funk – yes, dear. We saw….

choicelady

Andy Borowitz said that the community college plan was an Obummer plot to make Americans smarter, according to GOP sources. Nefarious.

kesmarn

How bout that Iraq War? Crazy huh?

funksands

funk – I no longer see you, did you move?

sillylittleme

AdLib – Well there you go. At least his idiocy is consistent.

sabreen60

Last summer on a dare I wore a Speedo out on Hollywood Beach! Hundreds, mostly Canadians, went temporarily blind. LOL

Harleigh

kes – yup. Evil doin’s making people smart. That damned Obama.

choicelady

Kes–OMG–we can’t have America smarter. Who would vote for republicans? Damn that Obama.

glenn

funk – forget it, there you are

sillylittleme

Funk, Tippecanoe and Tyler too!

kesmarn

Kes, instantly conservatives “decoded” the Presidents message to mean “free college for Obama phone recipients”

funksands

Harleigh! So YOU are the reason for the temporary Canadian eye black out. Wow.

choicelady

Here we are together SLM. Don’t ever forget

funksands

They’re quick, those conservatives!

kesmarn

funk – spot on

sillylittleme

kes – can’t put nothin’ over on them conservatives, nope.

choicelady

Kes, dawn is just a government false flag for impending dark

funksands

It’s all a huge plot.

kesmarn

Conservatives are like banks. The only people that deserve any money are those that don’t need it.

funksands

Kes–OOOhhhh, good one!

glenn

I hate stupid. I really do

sillylittleme

funk – impending dark? GREAT. That’s right up with’preborn babies’. With that attitude, we’re all just ‘predead’.

choicelady

Choice – aren’t we though?

sillylittleme

CL, you are catching on…

funksands

“That’s Hedley”

funksands

Well slm you must really hate Ms. Graham who said the Paris terror attacks are Obama’s fault.

sabreen60

Ad – keep ’em coming

sillylittleme

SLM – indeed which means we should not bother working, spending, being good citizens. Just plan our funerals and be done with it.

choicelady

sabreen – she is such a drama queen

sillylittleme

Funk – second what Ad said

sillylittleme

Choice –

sillylittleme

Choice, capitalism gives us all the best opportunity to buy the best damn funeral possible.

funksands

funk – that’s what makes America GREAT. Good funerals.

choicelady

One GOP candidate from Arkansas said that this country was founded by wealthy men who had all the authority and represented the rest of the people. That was his definition of democracy. Why did we bother with that whole Revolution thing, then. Dang! We had a perfectly good monarchy going already.

kesmarn

http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CAcQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.upi.com%2FOdd_News%2F2015%2F01%2F09%2FKoalas-need-mittens-after-paws-burned-in-bush-fires%2F5431420824202%2F&ei=Yp-wVLrpG9jaoATXwIGoAw&bvm=bv.83339334,d.cGU&psig=AFQjCNH194Zx_27twekUxQclhpmv82O_pg&ust=1420947676734386“>www.upi.com%2FOdd_News%2F2015%2F01%2F09%2FKoalas-need-mittens-after-paws-burned-in-bush-fires%2F5431420824202%2F&ei=Yp-wVLrpG9jaoATXwIGoAw&bvm=bv.83339334,d.cGU&psig=AFQjCNH194Zx_27twekUxQclhpmv82O_pg&ust=1420947676734386”>http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CAcQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.upi.com%2FOdd_News%2F2015%2F01%2F09%2FKoalas-need-mittens-after-paws-burned-in-bush-fires%2F5431420824202%2F&ei=Yp-wVLrpG9jaoATXwIGoAw&bvm=bv.83339334,d.cGU&psig=AFQjCNH194Zx_27twekUxQclhpmv82O_pg&ust=1420947676734386

funksands

So are freedom fries called french fries again?

sillylittleme

CL – Have you seen the movie “Sunset Limited”. You sound like “Black” (Tommy Lee Jones)

sabreen60

Sabreen–Everything is Obama’s fault. Except, of course, the improving economy, the falling unemployment rate, and the falling uninsured rate. All of those things are due to the gop’s stellar stewardship of the last six years, according to the turtle.

glenn

Damn, can’t remember how to post a picture.

funksands

Sabreen – no I’ve NOT seen that. I’ll try to get it!

choicelady

glenn – yes, I loved Miss Graham’s attemtp to usurp all credit for PBO’s work. He must have been an obnoxious little boy/girl stealing other kids’ homework and cheating off their tests.

choicelady

Funk – Just cremate me and put my ashes in a tupperware container.

sabreen60

choice – you so bad

sillylittleme

Ad, that’s awesome.

funksands

glenn, Mark Shield was mocking Yertle the Turtle tonight for saying that the American people had spent 59 months anticipating a GOP Congress — thus the economic improvement last fall.

kesmarn

Sabreen, you get a filthy 3-day bender from me. I’ll be hungover for weeks.

funksands

Sabreen – I have Tupperware! I’ll come get what’s left of you! If I’m deceased, I’ll make sure you’re my heir.

choicelady

Kes–I beg to differ with that goper. This country was founded by slave owners who yearned to be free.

glenn

kes – that is TOO FUNNY!

choicelady

glenn – oh the humanity! Slave owners kept imprisoned by their imprisoning. Oh woe!

choicelady

glenn, you’re right! You’d think — being from Arkansas — he’d know that historical fact.

kesmarn

kes – another loon heading up a segment of congress

sillylittleme

Funk

sabreen60

Kes–love Mark Shield’s response to the turtle’s comments!

glenn

funksands

You guys see this? Koalas with burned paws from Aussie brushfires

funksands

Even koalas need a mani-pedi now and then…

kesmarn

Funk–I did see that picture. All I can say is awwww!

glenn

funk – how sad

sillylittleme

poor things

Harleigh

Solution?

funksands

Awww…

kesmarn

CL – Okay. I’ll change the arrangements. I was going to let hubby keep my ashes in his gym bag cuz it’s not being used for anything else.

sabreen60

funk – chocolate?

sillylittleme

funksands

Sabreen–your hubby can keep your ashes in the tupperware container in the gym bag.

glenn

Koalas with Mittens!!!

funksands

Sabreen – his gym bag? Oh, honey you deserve SO much more – Tupperware for sure!

choicelady

Yay!

funksands

glenn – perfect compromise – Tupperware in the gym bag. Bam.

choicelady

Hey Pink

sillylittleme

funksands

kes – It’s just amazing how they have the nerve to say “the stupid”. They want credit for doing nothing.

sabreen60

Couldn’t resist

funksands

funk – LOVE the koalas!

choicelady

Hi, everybody, will be hopping in and out, so pls excuse. Taking care of koalas!

pinkpantheroz

Speaking of koalas, anyone know where PPO is? Is he still abroad for his brother’s funeral?

glenn

Acually pesky possums!

pinkpantheroz

PPO – you and funk are on a koala bender tonight!

choicelady

glenn – he’s snuck up on you…

choicelady

You can send tiny cute mittens to koalas via this organization https://www.thedodo.com/koala-mittens-bushfire-sewing-920651467.html

funksands

Hi Pink!

funksands

OMG–PPO–As you can see, I was just asking about you, and here you are!

glenn

Thanks for that Funk

sillylittleme

glenn, I’m right here in MEL, couldnt go to my brother’s funeral. Another bro. represented us

pinkpantheroz

funk – I absolutely love the photo of the koala with the firefighter giving it water. But I am SO SORRY this is happening AGAIN.

choicelady

Hey, PPO!

kesmarn

PPO – I did not know your brother had died, and I am SO sorry.

choicelady

PPO–glad you’re here with us. How are you doing?

glenn

Pink, knows its all the time every year now

funksands

PPO, so sorry to hear about your brother.

kesmarn

CL and kes, please don’t worry. It happened mid-Nov.

pinkpantheroz

PPO – we still feel for your loss.

choicelady

Oh! I think I recall your having mentioned it then. I was afraid you’d lost another family member!

kesmarn

BRB, folks.

glenn

sorry too PPO

Harleigh

thank you CL, still grieving, but carrying on.

pinkpantheroz

PBO holding koala:

sabreen60

I’m here late, so has anyone commented on the takedown of the 3 french terrorists?

pinkpantheroz

Even though it’s blank, click on it.

sabreen60

Hiya PPO!

sabreen60

PPO – not yet, but I’m still reeling from the horror of the whole thing. I was stunned seeing CHILDREN running from the market.

choicelady

Sabreen, this is how I want to have my funeral go.

funksands

So sorry PPO. I did not know your brother had passed.

sabreen60

funk – A Monty Python funeral? Perfect.

choicelady

Putin holding reluctant Koala, which pissed on him!

pinkpantheroz

PPO – that is simply perfect. So much for the manly man, Putin.

choicelady

PPO – what is the sense of things in Australia? Do you have much of a Muslim presence there? I hope there is not backlash and retaliation.

choicelady

That koala looks terrified.

kesmarn

AdLib – koalas bloomed in your absence.

choicelady

Funk – You. are. insane.

sabreen60

Sabreen – I.Totally.Agree. Love you, funk, but you’re weird. It’s your charm though.

choicelady

CL, well we had the hostage situation a few weeks ago when the gunman killed 2 people, but got taken down, rather like how the Kosher-deli guy was. We have a large Muslim population, not as large as some countries, but they’re 99% nice, law abiding people, with the usual few ratbags spoiling it for them.

pinkpantheroz

PPO – we held a vigil with the Muslim community here for the people in Australia and the children in Pakistan. The Muslim community is heartbroken by both events. I am so sorry for that happening to you all!

choicelady

Large Muslim population here in northwest Ohio too, PPO. Very wonderful people and have been here for generations. They’re sick about all this.

kesmarn

Holy Crap!!!

funksands

kes – the Muslims in CA have spoken out strongly against ISIL, against violence, against terrorism. Very little of what they say gets reported, but I’ve stood with them at events and spoken there, and they are devastated by it all.

choicelady

LOL

funksands

how do you post pics?

Harleigh

Harleigh – I believe it’s magic that lets photos get posted. I’ve not figured out any other answer.

choicelady

“Open image in new tab”, copy link, paste link into comment box

funksands

AdLib – That’s the picture I tried to get.

sabreen60

Right, CL! The local Muslims say that everyone criticizes moderate Muslims for failing to speak, out. But they do! As you say, it just doesn’t get reported.

kesmarn

Cl, that’s what is happening, I think, all over the world, but Good Muslims don’t get any press. every Islamic leader in Eurpoe has condemned the ‘barbarians’ who did this.

pinkpantheroz

goin to watch bill maher, have a great week everybody

sillylittleme

kes – I see the failure to report the Muslim real voice right up there with failure to report PBO’s accomplishments.

choicelady

SLM – have a wonderful week, too. Bye!

choicelady

funksands

Totally agree, CL. It doesn’t bleed, it doesn’t lead.

kesmarn

funk – I prefer the koalas.

choicelady

CL, yes, that horrible left-wing media!

pinkpantheroz

Like this beautiful picture of the upcoming Bush Clinton election

funksands

PPO – LOL!!!

choicelady

Good night slm.

sabreen60

Bill just told Dubya that Poppy Bush is Bill’s real dad there.

kesmarn

bye, SLM

pinkpantheroz

Night SLM

funksands

AdLib – perfect!!!

choicelady

G’night, SLM!

kesmarn

Nice onw

funksands

“one”

funksands

BRB

pinkpantheroz

Mitt said he’s running again.

sabreen60

Wind chill is now -15 F here. Just in case anyone wants to know…

kesmarn

AdLib – Jeb thinks Americans do.

choicelady

Kes–brrrr

glenn

kes!!!! Batten the hatches!!! Minus 15???? That’s insane!

choicelady

Sabreen wow! That’s unusual

funksands

Or Kes, or whatever…

funksands

Oh kes – I’m so sorry. Humans are not suppose to live in those temperatures, IMO.

sabreen60

Sabreen – Mitt is also being touted as a replacement for Barbara Boxer in the Senate in 2016. Pinup Boy Brown is apparently considering moving here to run, too.

choicelady

Ad–do shrubs only “bloom” every eight years?

glenn

I sure hope not, AdLib! (On the question of another Bush prez). Fool us once, shame on you. Fool us twice, shame on us. Fool us three times and we are declared certified masochists.

kesmarn

CL – Surely you jest!

sabreen60

glenn – if they bloom every 8 years, can we bring in the Round Up every 7th year?

choicelady

Sabreen – nope. Those two names are being floated as Boxer’s ‘replacement’.

choicelady

Kes–I think we’ve been declared certified masochists already. Hence….the republican congress.

glenn

“In a world gone mad, 1 man takes it upon himself to drag us into Iraq 1…..more….time..

funksands

CL–round-up sounds good to me!

glenn

Funk – I heard Mitt is looking for a campaign manager. You interested?

sabreen60

You know it! I’ll do a GREAT job for him!

funksands

AdLib – dark blue? Not so much as we’d hope. GOP made some gains in state legislature. And we DID have Arnold! So never take it for granted.

choicelady

When does Boxer step down?

funksands

I will wreak havoc if Scott Brown moves here. I promise that.

choicelady

HA!

funksands

funk – she will be done 2016. Because it’s a prez election year, no GOP has much hope, but Feinstein is midterm – 2018, and that’s the one to worry about.

choicelady

That’ll be fun to watch, AdLib!

kesmarn

AdLib – who will be the most likely candidate in 2016 for GOP nom?

choicelady

CL, you think Kamala will run for her seat?

funksands

Funk–I believe Boxer’s term is up in 2016–she says she isn’t going to run for re-election, and since we’ve already had congressional elections, I”m assuming her term will be up in two more years. However, you know what they say about those who assume.

glenn

glenn – you’re correct, but it’s the 2018 vacancy I worry about. Until Dems actually understand they MUST VOTE, we are vulnerable.

choicelady

Meg Whitman’s revving up her ATM card as we speak

funksands

And her credit limit is “Infinity.”

kesmarn

AdLib – Arnold got 18% of the total eligible vote, but that is ALL who voted at ALL in November! Dems suck at midterms, and if Feinstein retires at age 85, it will be serious.

choicelady

Funk – Geez! They’re coming out the woodwork.

sabreen60

funk – OMG please do NOT bring up Whitman or I’ll bring up dinner.

choicelady

AdLib – I[‘m just thinking Jebbie will capitulate to the Right to secure the nom.

choicelady

CL–You know, I thought Dems understood how important it is to vote in midterms after the 2010 elections, but this past November proved me wrong. However, I’ve seen a couple of articles talking about how the progressives are trying to take back the Dem party, so maybe there is hope. I do think Dems have to get out and tout their accomplishments, instead of running from them and letting the repubs set the narrative.

glenn

Sometimes I wonder if Ohio Gov. John Kasich will end up being the dark horse nominee…

kesmarn

Ben Carson said “millions” of people want him to run.

sabreen60

In what country, Sabreen?

kesmarn

Scott Walker is going to run. He’s very very popular with the wing nut AND far right base

funksands

Ad, I think Gavin would save himself for Governor wouldn’t he? That’s a better stepping stone to President than Senator right?

funksands

I hope that drag out that audio of Walker’s phone conversation with the phony “Koch brother”…

kesmarn

Sabreen, he’s right. Me included!

funksands

Palin-Bachmann 2016 for jebus!

Harleigh

kes – In Carson country that happens in his head.

sabreen60

Funk–isn’t little scotty still running from criminal charges? Or, has he managed to throw all his subordinates under the bus?

glenn

Harleigh, I’d donate to that campaign just to help get it off the ground!

funksands

LOL! Sabreen!

kesmarn

Well greetings Planeteers…..

murphthesurf3

Glenn, not sure. I don’t see anything serious arising from his current issues.

funksands

MURPH!!!!

choicelady

Hey, Murph!

kesmarn

Murph!! I was just going to ask about you. Are you staying warm?

glenn

CL, I’m wondering how much we are underestimating the effect of voter suppression in the last election

funksands

hey murph

Harleigh

I will go on record now and say ANYONE supporting Kamala Harris is making a HUGE mistake. She is a fraud, a showboater, and a duplicitous enemy of justice.

choicelady

20 million more people voted for a Democrat for Senate than a Republican

funksands

Ad–Naw, the palindora box of lunacy is running on a dog sled!

glenn

CL, Ooo now you have me curious!

funksands

Hi Choice. Hi Kes, Hi Glenn, Hi Harleigh…cold, cold, cold here, ice storms this weekend. Fighting the battle of bursting water pipes

murphthesurf3

kes – I had forgotten how he got punked. I’m sure some enterprising Dem will tweet it.

sabreen60

funk – suppression was HUGE but NOT in CA, and only 18% of eiligable voters voted.

choicelady

Hi Murph!

funksands

lowest turnout since 1943

Harleigh

Hi funk.

murphthesurf3

Harleigh, is that true? Wow

funksands

funk – she is not trustworthy. I’ve dealt with her directly, and she is a horrible person.

choicelady

Good enough for me.

funksands

I read the same statistic, Harleigh!

kesmarn

Hiya Murph!

sabreen60

AdLib – suppression was not a factor in CA. And yet it was JUST as awful here.

choicelady

Hello Sabreen and Ad Lib….

murphthesurf3

Funk–although those figures are true; it’s also true that because small states have the same representaton in the Senate as large states, that 20 million figure does not necessarily say that there was something “wrong” with the election. That’s why Dems do better in Presidential elections because it’s country wide instead of individual states.

glenn

CL – I remember PBO saying in 2010 not to give the keys back to Repubs. Maybe he needed to explain what he meant. That not voting IS giving the keys back.

sabreen60

AdLib – i cannot get over the rejection of this successful president. Had they embraced his accomplishments instead of fleeing they’d have won.

choicelady

Glenn, you sound like you went to one of them there COMMIE UNITY Colleges!!

funksands

adlib – no shit…. grimes could not even admit she voted democrat!!! are you kiddin me??

Harleigh

Sabreen – told a friend his NOT voting is accepting the GOP, and his answer is that they’re both the same.

choicelady

I hear that all the time too, CL.

kesmarn

This is terrible to say, but I think a lot of Dems are secretly relieved to be in the minority again.

funksands

Harleigh – a wise woman (Grimes isn’t) would have made hay out of Mitt instead of refusing to say she voted for PBO.

choicelady

Can you elaborate, funk?

kesmarn

Funk–guilty as charged. Started out in one of them Commie Unity Colleges!

glenn

CL – I read that a fair number of people when asked couldn’t name the Vice President. So….

sabreen60

funk – there is a ‘victim mentality’ among Dems, yes.

choicelady

Too many elected Democrats don’t seem comfortable using and wielding political power. They seem to prefer the opposition role. Just an impression

funksands

Sabreen – I’m less worried about that VP ignorance. It was true when I was a kid in the 50s, too.

choicelady

funk – the Congressman who represents the district where my office is is one of those Dems who voted to overturn Dodd-Frank and kill ACA. He’s a jerk but DID get re-elected.

choicelady

Ad, et al–I am so pissed off at those cowardly Dems who ran away fromthe POTUS and Dem accomplishments. Grimes especially. I hope Grimes never runs for another office. I thought she could really have beaten the turtle, instead she turned out to BE the turtle herself.

glenn

Funk….I know one Dem who is happy to be in the minority, Barack Obama….

murphthesurf3

Ad, true. But the GOP seems very comfortable in that role.

funksands

A woman made the comment that she’s not getting much of a cost of living raise because of President Obama. Someone said that it’s Congress who made the decision. Then this woman said well it was more before Obama became President. She didn’t know that we had a Dem Congress from 2006. People are clueless.

sabreen60

AdLib – I think that’s the most insightful comment I’ve read. It’s easier to be out and a naysayer than actually govern. Well done!

choicelady

cl grimes was a big dissappointment

Harleigh

Harleigh – she sure was!

choicelady

Murph, his constraints seemed to have melted away. One day there will be a Democrat who will learn that lesson while in the majority and govern like it.

funksands

AdLib – yup. I’ll buy the coward mentality.

choicelady

Do you think Dems are perpetual hippies, maybe? Always anti-authority? (Even when they hold the authority?)

kesmarn

Ad–and that’s exactly the problem the repubs now have. They now have to govern, and have started out by trying to make Social Security look insolvent, so they can “fix” it.

glenn

CL – I meant if they don’t know who the VP is how are they going to know how the government works.

sabreen60

Kes, you are skirting around a truth there somewhere

funksands

Sabreen – we no longer know how democracy works. The end of Civics was the end of intelligent voting and citizenship.

choicelady

Here is somthing that should shake us all up: a GOP insider friend (who hates where his party is going) told m that the big buzz right now at the state level is about FIXING THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE…TIE ELECTORAL VOTES TO CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICTS!!!!

murphthesurf3

Murph – we already had that effort in CA to do proportional Electoral college distribution. Horrible.

choicelady

lots and lots of dems are stoners! Why just today I was a a stop sign over two hours waiting for it to turn green.

Harleigh

Harleigh – LOL!!!

choicelady

When you add the perennial circle firing squad mentality to that (where we always attack our own), that is pretty disheartening…

kesmarn

Murph–the “fixing” of the electoral college has been floating around for a while now. But there’s no doubt in my mind that this gop congress will try very hard to get something passed for that, especially since they have already gerrymandered all the districts.

glenn

Yep Murph, I said a few years ago that the biggest race in America is the race for the GOP to bar the barn door before they can be permanently removed as enemies of the state

funksands

FUNK- I think that Obama’s people told the losing Senators that running away from THEIR record, the Dem record, is bringing disaster on their campaigns..and when they lost I don’t think obama had many kind words for any of them.

murphthesurf3

kes – there is also the circular firing squad of always reading one another’s ‘analyses’ and never learning anything new.

choicelady

Murph, I don’t think the President has said a damn word to them

funksands

Harleigh, that would explain the slow walk to the polls in November… LOL!

kesmarn

Murph, funk, why the hell should he?

pinkpantheroz

Good point, CL.

kesmarn

Funk–speaking of enemies of the state, anyone know why the “liberal” press didn’t cover Ms Graham’s statement that s/he would follow the lead of the Isreali prime minister rather than his/her own President? Why didn’t that get much more press?

glenn

It’s still startling how fast Dems ran from the single most popular national elected figure in the nation

funksands

All – I am now certifiably TOO DAMNED OLD to go through another period of GOP destruction of America. I seriously will think about leaving if they gain ground.

choicelady

Glenn, Funk, Choice…the American Legislative Executive Council has model legislation for referendums in states that will alter the College and it has a the PR campaign ready to go. Big Money, Koch et. al. money is behind it.

murphthesurf3

I read that the DCCC only wanted PBO to make robo calls in Nov. They didn’t want him out campaigning. Funny thing is when he did go out the candidate won.

sabreen60

Murph: True

funksands

murph – Common Cause and League of Women Voters are gearing up NATIONALLY for a fight on electoral college.

choicelady

CL!!! Take me too!!! LOL

Harleigh

Ad–Yeah, we talked about the turtle’s comments a while back here on VOX tonight. I still can’t understand why the press is not calling the liars out, though.

glenn

Glenn, the press expects nothing from the GOP, Dems make softer targets

funksands

Harleigh – you’re in darling. Hop on board!

choicelady

My wife has made her Bush3 threat already…

funksands

funk – chuck todd said they don’t challenge GOP because they’re mean and retaliate. Dems better learn some of that.

choicelady

Funk, PPO….I think Obama has decided that his legacy is HIS to make or lose at this point and he is willing to run over ANYONE, GOP or DEM to secure what he has done….I sense real confusion on all sides in regard to him.

murphthesurf3

WHEW! don’t wanna mis that boat!

Harleigh

Speaking of us aging activists – anyone seeing new and younger lefties on the horizon? Twenty-somethings?

kesmarn

funk – and what IS the Bush 3 threat? Vancouver? I’ll see you there.

choicelady

Let’s all meet up on election night with a bottle of champagne in one hand and a plane ticket in the other!

funksands

CL, she won’t live in a country with a mormon prophet or a Bush as President

funksands

glenn, MSM is corporate owned. The dumb Chuck Toad said if he called out the Repub liars they wouldn’t come back on MTP. Of course, it could also be that he’s one of them.

sabreen60

Murph – I will say what I say about legacy – PBO isn’t worried about HIS legacy. He’s working for OURS.

choicelady

Sabreen – all of the above.

choicelady

Kes–I like that idea! Except can we go to a warmer place? Canada, although a wonderful country, is a little too cold.

glenn

Smart woman, Mrs. Funk is.

kesmarn

Choice – glad to hear about Common Cause and the League BUT to defeat this they are going to have elevate the level of understanding among voters to record levels…

murphthesurf3

glenn – come west. Vancouver is pretty mellow weather wise.

choicelady

CL–define “mellow”.

glenn

Murph – that’s why we are gearing up now, to create talking points soon.

choicelady

glenn – 50s, rain, almost no snow. Ever.

choicelady

The left and the middle HAVE to RESIGN themselves to the same strategy that the ultra-right did in the late 60’s. Start from the bottom, take over all of the local offices and percolate up. Dems focus too much on federal elections. We

funksands

CL–KInda like Seattle?

glenn

Murph, If that’s the case I don’t blame him. I stopped watching MSNBC because the hosts bashed PBO non stop and no Dem came on in his defense. So yeah eff ’em.

sabreen60

glenn – very much like Seattle, yes.

choicelady

Choice- yes, Our Legacy, but I think this man has a level of pride that pushes him…Michelle may be his real world manifestation of this…She is his avatar and I think she and he agreed that it was time to kick butt….

murphthesurf3

Well, kids. My son is in town from Madison for a good long holiday visit, so I’m gonna take my leave a little early and get the 20-something take on the world. Y’all have a wonderful weekend and stay warm!

kesmarn

CL–Okay, I’ll consider it, if you and Harleigh will be there.

glenn

We’ve had a 6-year lesson on how hard it is to bring about sweeping change from the top down. We struggle like crazy to 1 damn thing through Congress, while meanwhile JoJo and her 2nd amendment uncle are taking over school boards and election commissions

funksands

funk – Dems want instant gratification and a Big Daddy they can watch kick butt while they sip vintage wine from long stemmed glasses. Fuck THEM.

choicelady

nite kes

Harleigh

G’night Kes. Enjoy your visit with your son.

glenn

atta girl

funksands

Night Kes!

funksands

Good night kes. Take care.

sabreen60

Good night kes! A big, virtual hug to you and to your son. Enjoy your visit!

choicelady

whats wrong with drinking wine straight from the box?

Harleigh

Harleigh – nothing.

choicelady

Funk- one of the reasons Dems do not focus on local elections is because the key to those used to be the unions and the Dems have not found a replacement….the GOP created the Tea Party. AND the Dems reject the discipline required to pull off local elections in the way the GOP has.

murphthesurf3

Harleigh, It’s hard on the neck!

pinkpantheroz

Night Kes.

murphthesurf3

I think it’s a good time to follow Kes out the door and into my nice, warm bed. Take care everyone, and for those of you in the cold, stay warm.

glenn

Murph – solid analysis!!!

choicelady

Murph, you know this better than anyone

funksands

‘night, kes

pinkpantheroz

Night Glenn! Wearing your heels to bed?

funksands

Good night, glenn – lovely to see you! Keep snug, keep your socks on, and don’t let the frost nip your nose!

choicelady

Thank you choice and yes, funk (and choice) I know this from hard experience here.

murphthesurf3

good night glenn

pinkpantheroz

Funk–not the heels, only my socks!

glenn

Glenn- good night to you. Glad we said hellow.

murphthesurf3

Murph – I know you do.

choicelady

Ad- we do not have enough billionaires…..

murphthesurf3

Good night glenn.

sabreen60

AdLib – our Lefty billionaires don’t fund local action. They have their OWN projects. That’s a problem

choicelady

ACORN was the last organization outside the unions that did this stuff. And they got contract killed

funksands

murph – indeed, but we do have lots of liberal rich people who are suspicious of local folks. We’re more elitist than the Right.

choicelady

ALL- signups for ACA are going great here….my long phone calls of a year ago are no longer necessary. No convinciing, just how to connect.

murphthesurf3

funk – don’t tell anyone, but there are state groups replacing ACORN now. All with different names. Shhhhh.

choicelady

Our lefty billionaires don’t seem to understand that we liberals need a liberal media.

sabreen60

Murph, I noticed that here too. Even with some website snafus almost 200,000 have signed up in the state

funksands

good news, Murph, you should be proud of what you’ve done

pinkpantheroz

murph – that’s GREAT!!! But tell those idiots to vote smarter next time.

choicelady

AMEN, CL!

pinkpantheroz

CL, their secret is safe with me cause I don’t know about it. Wouldn’t it be nice if more people did?

funksands

The GOP has numerous fields of the Rich to draw from…..the individual billionaire, the millionaire organizations, the corporations jumping into the PACS…the only way we survive is to wean our voters from TV which is where most of the money goes.

murphthesurf3

George Lakoff called out lefty billionaires/millionaires in 2004 for being so damned cheap and controlling. the Right throws gobs of money at groups and demands no accounting for it. We have to do 25 page forms for $10,000.

choicelady

AdLib – yup. About right. No one on the Right has noticed because they can’t read.

choicelady

Funk – Killed by Dems and Repubs

sabreen60

funksands

Yep

funksands

Murph – That’s great.

sabreen60

Choice— and in spite of this our legslature refuses to consider Medicaid expanision. This last year our hospitals lost more than 100 million in recoverable charges thanks to this….they wll sacifice their constituents and then convince them that the Dems have done this to them.

murphthesurf3

Well folks – I deal with several homeless folks as you know, and one is 30 minutes away in rehab, so I go visit him every week. I am toddling off to bed to get rest for that venture. See you all next week I hope!

choicelady

folks I gotta roll too. Great seeing all of you

funksands

ludicrous, Murph.

pinkpantheroz

Happy new year!

funksands

‘Night funk!

choicelady

Good night, funk and CL. stay warm

pinkpantheroz

Ad- they control the airwaves where it counts and in our video culture they win over a lot of people who should know better.

murphthesurf3

Harleigh

PPO – YOU stay cool and fire free!

choicelady

Choice and Funk…good touching base with you.

murphthesurf3

AdLib – you, too!

choicelady

Thanks, CL. we’re OK just now. raining!

pinkpantheroz

PPO – that’s GREAT!

choicelady

PPO…yeah, ludicrous indeed.

murphthesurf3

CL – Good night and take care!

sabreen60

going down to 65 here tonite, time to open the winders

Harleigh

Nite Funk. Be good!

sabreen60

nite folks

Harleigh

AD, I thoght you were being flooded in CA with superstorms and that. Didn’t much get to LA?

pinkpantheroz

Harleigh – Somewhere I read karma is a bitch. Keep rubbing in your good weather and see what happens.

sabreen60

Yes, Ad, just a guy with horns and a big fork to throw ’em on the barbie! Good!

pinkpantheroz

Well, I’m out too. Take care folks.

sabreen60

Ad….I have really been pushing people to use these terms: Contemporary Modern Islam vs. Jihadist Islam. Modern Muslims vs. Jihadists. Not all Muslims are the same.

murphthesurf3

Ad, LOL!

pinkpantheroz

Good night, Sabreen . take care

pinkpantheroz

Good night Sabreen.

murphthesurf3

Careful, Ad! Next thing you’ll be saying that not all Republicans are greedy, manipulative arseholes!

pinkpantheroz

Ad lib- true, but a piece of what I am saying applies to Muslims as well. One of my doctors is a Muslim (actually three of them are but I know this one very well). It is he who made this point to me. Modern Muslims have to make this distinction and do so out lout Why? It makes clear that they recognize that Islam is the soil from which extremist, zealous, doctrinaire jihadist grew and which continues to nurture and protect it. AND they have to point out the nature of modern, enlightenment Islam but they fear doing so.

murphthesurf3

Ad, you’re right. It seems every generation needs to have a boogy man to fear and loathe. If only they realise that the other side look at them the same way.

pinkpantheroz

Well, I’m away to get the newspaper and some cheesy comestibles, so I’ll say good night to all and have a very Happy and Healthy 2015

pinkpantheroz

Ad: Contemporary Islam or Islamic Modernism has been described as “the first Muslim ideological response” attempting to reconcile Islamic faith with modern Western values such as nationalism, democracy, civil rights, gender equality, secularism, rationality,, general equality, progress and freedom of religion. It features a “critical reexamination of the classical conceptions and methods of jurisprudence”, a new contextual and evolutionary approach to Islamic theology and Quranic exegesis/study. This movement has its roots in the 19th century renovation of Islamic thought called the salafiyya movement Modernism differs from secularism in that it insists on the importance of religious faith in both private and public life, while still embracing contemporary European institutions, social processes and values.

murphthesurf3

PPO- glad to have had the chance to say hi! mate!

murphthesurf3

Murph, thanks. See ya, Cobber!

pinkpantheroz

PPO You too friend from afar.

murphthesurf3

Ad- I agree but what my doctor friend was pushing is the need for honest on all sides. One point he made is that it is just as hard for a modern Muslim to define the nature of Islamic modernity as it is to condemn Jihadism.

murphthesurf3

I take it that Beatlex is not really here.

murphthesurf3

Ad, I agree. But what my doc and friend is pushing is more than understanding where hostility toward muslims comes from and more than just being tolerant. He is walking on both sides of the street…

murphthesurf3

It is and it is necessary.

murphthesurf3

Ad…yes which is why my friend was driven (nicely) from his Mosque two years ago and is now the head of it….growing awareness.

murphthesurf3

My doc’s mosque is an interesting mix of the very well to do and the labouring class (most new immigrants) and you can guess now the modernist/jihadist dialogue breaks down along those lines in the mosque. My friend has broken that only honest dialogue within that community can generate the energy necessary to be seen by the wider community as being willing to grapple with a blight on their name.

murphthesurf3

And that is enormously difficult…the Islamic communty is deeply, deeply divided with fracture lines that we cannot even begin to name.

murphthesurf3

I have a feel for thm because of my relationship with Naseer.

murphthesurf3

Well. I am heading to bed. Awoke this morning to broken pipes and two of my dogs deciding to take on a nest of racoons (stupid dogs).

murphthesurf3

Take care.

murphthesurf3

and yes it is daunting….my eyes have been widened.

murphthesurf3