Vox Populi – 1-9-2015

I have to go out for a while my friends,hope to catch you later.I am in the middle of a move too!

oh dear, am I alone here?

AD LIB!! You know, I was thinkin’….about your moniker…..? Wassup with that

I mean who IS that guy?

?hmmmm…I don’t get it! Not the movie “Boys From Brazil” right

my user name or my picture? and yes, you are indeed a very smart man as your posts have proven time and again…

Je suis Charlie!

LMAO….dont know this movie Ill have to check it out sometime!

So what are we discussing tonite? Mitt Romney is seriously considering another run….that should be good for at least a few laughs!

Hi Ad, Hi Las Vegas Babe, how’s everyone? Happy New Year, a little late.

Not late, just in time. Happy New Year to you as well Glenn! Hope all is good where your hailing from!

This new vox populi is coooooool! I quite like it!

LVB–which will come first? romney convicted of racketeering charges or a run for the presidency?

Alas my friend, he’ll never be convicted but on the good side he’ll never POTUS either! be

LVB–A little cool here in the red state of GA. Lows in the teens, with the wind chill factor, we had a -1 temp yesterday morning. Other than that, I’m fine. How about you?

Oh dear…don’t make me confess to temps here in LV when you’ve just experienced -1….its…well, embarassing

LVB–maybe he’ll never be convicted, but seriously–he’s going to run for president with racketeering charges hanging over his head? Of course, in teabagistanland, that’s a plus, but seriously? And, the best part is the charges are being filed by a private individual, not the government!

Other than enjoying ur temps, I’m as well as can be expected for an old lady! AdLib LOL

Looks like CL is in the house, hello dear, how you be?

Happy New Year everyone! Hope 2015 is off to a good start personally. Hi Vegasbabe!

LVB–it’s okay about the temps. I used to live in the Keys and I wasn’t at all embarassed about touting the warm weather!

glenn – how’s your weather now?

Tired as usual but hanging in. How are YOU?

Glenn well in that case, yesterday it was 72 ! BUT it may rain here for the next three days….yeah right!

Ad–47% of us say “no to mittro!”

VB – if you don’t like the rain, send it to CA. We need MORE!

glenn – MORE than 47% Just Say No to Mitt!

CL I know right!!!

CL–still cold, but at least the wind has died down. High today was a whopping 41 degrees! Supposed to warm up to the 60’s tomorrow, but then rain and 30’s again on Sunday.

Hey CL–glad you’re here with your tired self.

glenn – at least it appears you’ve missed the worst of the Polar Vortex. Middle of the country is teens or even single digits. I’m glad it’s not THAT bad.

Now this new vox automatically tells us where we are hailing from I noticed??? We’re coming up in the world! Before you know it, we’ll all be 1%ers LOL

AdLib – I do worry. Sacramento is still ahead of normal, but it’s bee dry and will be dry for another two weeks.

LVB–glad to hear someone is having some warm weather.

VB – yeah that’s VOX – jet setters all!

Evening all

Hi SLM – how are you? Hope you’re not freezing!

Hey SLM–Happy New Year–a little late, but better late than never!

Beatlex….Edmonton….Canada or UK?

AdLib – ooooh I want a tequila sunrise! Barring that a Bailey’s Irish Cream.

AdLib…..looks like I’m gonna need to submit a donation huh? Its probably more than time!

AdLib – TYVM!

Ad–I’ll take the Bailey’s with some decaf coffee, please.

I’ll have what CL’s having thank you!

Choice – fairly cold in northern MA yesterday was an insane 2 degrees at noon. -4 overnight. getting a bit better. 20s for the weekend and the pats game

CL–TYVM????

VB – I lived in Pawtucket and Lawrence back in the 80s and remember bone cracking cold. You HAVE MY SYMPATHIES!

glenn – TYVM – Thank You Very Much.

CL dearest, I think you meant that for SLM….I’m in Vegas and have no complaints weather wise a’tole

CL–thanks–I’m really sitting low in my seat tonight–just couldn’t figure that one out!

Happy New Year – glenn et al

VB – yes, sorry -I DID mean it for SLM in MA.

Good Friday evening, kids! Can’t remember the last time the furnace shut off here on the tundra. How’re you all?

hey kes – experiencing the same here

Very good kesmarn, thank you for askin’ and you?

KES!!! Yes indeed – friends in Y’town are feeling the pain, too. So it makes CA whining about 40s very sloppy.

Ad–I see Martin O’Malley is thinking of throwing his hat into the presidential ring. Didn’t someone here on VOX say how much s/he admired him?

glenn – that’s Sabreen who’s an O

Doing well, VB. Not looking forward to the heating bill, but “I’ll think about that tomorrow…”

Sorry – and O’Malley supporter. I’m REALLY glad to see him in!

CL whats an “O”

Hey Kes–I’m trying to stay warm here in GA, too.

kes – the Scarlett O’Hara approach is always good.

It’s worked so far, CL!

VB – hit the wrong key and sent it too soon. See the follow up.

glenn – you have enough warm clothes?

Love the fact that O’Malley commuted those death sentences in MD. Good guy.

AdLib – “strumble”? THAT is a good word!

A rumble with a strudel?

kes: YES that was very good on O’Malley’s part!

kes – even better definition.

kes

SLM–Yes, after three and a half years up here, I have enough warm clothes. I have on my sweat pants, trouser socks, another pair of “footie” socks over those, my slippers, two turtleneck long-sleeved shirts and a sweatshirt, and that’s inside with the heat on!

glenn: WOW!!!

glenn – see if you can get your hands on some fleece, less layers, stay warmer

glenn – that is almost identical to MY outfit, and that’s with the 40s outside. We are having heating problems and keep the furnace low. My “Merry Christmas” present will be a new H/AC unit. Sigh.

AdLib – I’m thinking strudel isn’t the problem. It’s perhaps the libations?

CL–I think we have discovered in previous VOX conversations that we are of the same mind, so it doesn’t surprise me.

I see Sabreen!

Maybe it was rum + strudel?

Hiya funksands….ah…yeah, why does it say your chatting from the New york police department break room?

hey harleigh – just in time, I just sparked up

Funkie’s location changes weekly!

glenn – women of a certain age (cough) are allowed to put comfort over fashion especially when they are alone. And we STILL ROCK!

Hello Planeteers! #FreeCommunityCollege

Harleigh! How are you!

Ad–Yup, warm and cozy. The coffee and Bailey’s helps, too.

Bonjour! Bonsoir à vous tous belles dames!

hey sabreen and funk

AdLib – yup. Knew it…

Sabreen….YES! I love that idea!

Merci, Monsieur le Funk!

funk – damn. Are you in Paris? Be careful!

I used to cook with wine! Sometimes I put some in the food! WC Fields.

VBabe, its the quietest spot I could find with a wi-fi signal

Hey, Harleigh!

Harleigh – one of WC’s best lines.

Hey Sabreen, Harleigh, Funk….Wow everyone’s coming in so quickly, I can’t keep up!

Glenn, I know right? Good so many planeteers are here anyway!

LOVE your location, Funk – have they sussed out who you REALLY are?

Yes it was my little chickadee. LOL

CL–Yes, we of a “certain age” have to stay comfortable!

I’m committing a crime just by being here CL, so they are ignoring me.

glenn – even with my back problems, I wore heels for the first time in 3 years and SURVIVED. It’s giving me confidence again.

funk – good thing they’re on a work slowdown or you’d be toast.

Funk–isn’t the break room pretty crowded–what with all that “work stoppage” and all. Are the cops facing you or have they turned their backs on you?

funk: HA! Careful there son…..you are in dangerous territory!

Ad, je ne ai aucun commentaire cochon anglais

glenn – the NYPD turning backs on Funk might be his best option.

CL, they’re all watching the “Bachelor”

funk – LOL!!!

CL–I bought a pair of boots recently with a wedge heel, and I’ve worn them a couple of times, but I always feel as though I’m walking funny in them. Usually can’t wait to get them off.

glenn – it’s taking off the “killer clothes” that has become the best sensation ever.

Glenn, I think I’m in a safe spot! LOL

Ad/Sabreen – wish he’d expand it to all state and federal owned colleges

BRB

SLM – the college issue has to go through Congress. Like THAT will happen…

CL–Depends on whom you’re taking them off for!

SLM – outside of the military academies, I’m not sure there ARE any federal colleges.

glenn – for some reason wedges are the bane of my existence. I seem to find my way either face down or on my bottom hugging the ground.

CL exactly! But nonetheless, it’s a fantastic idea! I love our Prez!

glenn – Ohhhhhhh tooo true!

Sabreen — sorry, got called away for a bit — great news about the community college plan!

Sabreen – NO ONE can walk in wedgies.

True Choice, but we need to do something to educate the boatload of kids…

VB – I totally agree. It is a wonderful idea. CA had that for several decades, and we were the best educated work force in America. Bring it back nationally!

Ah oh, we lost funksands…..given his location I’d call the cops but I think we’d be safer calling ghost busters!

Sabreen–glad to hear I’m not the only one who can’t wear wedgies. I just though it was too many years of only wearing sandals in the Keys!

All – I can walk in wedgies. Actually find them better than stems

Now if we can only get the funding for the community college idea…. 🙁

SLM–you are indeed a special woman!

SLM – even with that, there will be huge populations that don’t benefit which is why I’m working on worker ownership of business. I’m the point person in CA for 1worker1vote, the US Steelworkers/Mondragon Coop Corporation US initiatiave. You can check it out at 1worker1vote.org

glenn – no just short, wedgies were always preferable…

SLM – you CAN? Wow – I am impressed.

slm – I watched/listened to PBO’s speech in TN. The Repub governor and legislative have initiated the free 2 year community college program. Senator Lamar Alexander (R) was in the audience grinning from ear to ear. However, he later said the community college thing is good for “individual states” but not on the fed level. Republicans will be Republicans.

people just laugh and point when I wear my wedgies or stems!

Sabreen, Kes–I admit I didn’t read the whole article, but from the headlines I read, I thought the community college funding was paid for somehow. Maybe I’m just doing “republican” math.

“legislature”

Sabreen – I heard about the TN effort. But of course Alexander doesn’t get that it IS a state initiative just funded nationally.

thanks choice – its about time employees got a bigger cut of the profits

Harleigh–but, which do YOU prefer?

SLM – they would get ALL the profit as the owners.

uh my gold sandals LMAO

choice – even better

Harleigh..hee-hee-heee

Harleigh–be sure you don’t wear your gold sandals with your silver choker. You know that is a serious faux pas!

And unlike Employee Stock Option Plans, every person, janitor to CEO, gets ONE vote. Different amounts of pay and money but only ONE VOTE on how the company runs.

How about Obummer and his COMMIE UNITY Colleges??

funk – we were just celebrating the community college issue. Catch up dear.

Ad–lamar really didn’t say that, did he?

funk….you tryin’ to start somethin’? LOL

Choice – awesome, I’ll checkout the site later

Damn….

AdLib – I can imagine Lamar saying just that!

Hey! Did you all see I’m in the NYPD break room??? Huh?

funk – yes, dear. We saw….

Andy Borowitz said that the community college plan was an Obummer plot to make Americans smarter, according to GOP sources. Nefarious.

How bout that Iraq War? Crazy huh?

funk – I no longer see you, did you move?

AdLib – Well there you go. At least his idiocy is consistent.

Last summer on a dare I wore a Speedo out on Hollywood Beach! Hundreds, mostly Canadians, went temporarily blind. LOL

kes – yup. Evil doin’s making people smart. That damned Obama.

Kes–OMG–we can’t have America smarter. Who would vote for republicans? Damn that Obama.

funk – forget it, there you are

Funk, Tippecanoe and Tyler too!

Kes, instantly conservatives “decoded” the Presidents message to mean “free college for Obama phone recipients”

Harleigh! So YOU are the reason for the temporary Canadian eye black out. Wow.

Here we are together SLM. Don’t ever forget

They’re quick, those conservatives!

funk – spot on

kes – can’t put nothin’ over on them conservatives, nope.

Kes, dawn is just a government false flag for impending dark

It’s all a huge plot.

Conservatives are like banks. The only people that deserve any money are those that don’t need it.

Kes–OOOhhhh, good one!

I hate stupid. I really do

funk – impending dark? GREAT. That’s right up with’preborn babies’. With that attitude, we’re all just ‘predead’.

Choice – aren’t we though?

CL, you are catching on…

“That’s Hedley”

Well slm you must really hate Ms. Graham who said the Paris terror attacks are Obama’s fault.

Ad – keep ’em coming

SLM – indeed which means we should not bother working, spending, being good citizens. Just plan our funerals and be done with it.

sabreen – she is such a drama queen

Funk – second what Ad said

Choice –

Choice, capitalism gives us all the best opportunity to buy the best damn funeral possible.

funk – that’s what makes America GREAT. Good funerals.

One GOP candidate from Arkansas said that this country was founded by wealthy men who had all the authority and represented the rest of the people. That was his definition of democracy. Why did we bother with that whole Revolution thing, then. Dang! We had a perfectly good monarchy going already.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CAcQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.upi.com%2FOdd_News%2F2015%2F01%2F09%2FKoalas-need-mittens-after-paws-burned-in-bush-fires%2F5431420824202%2F&ei=Yp-wVLrpG9jaoATXwIGoAw&bvm=bv.83339334,d.cGU&psig=AFQjCNH194Zx_27twekUxQclhpmv82O_pg&ust=1420947676734386“>www.upi.com%2FOdd_News%2F2015%2F01%2F09%2FKoalas-need-mittens-after-paws-burned-in-bush-fires%2F5431420824202%2F&ei=Yp-wVLrpG9jaoATXwIGoAw&bvm=bv.83339334,d.cGU&psig=AFQjCNH194Zx_27twekUxQclhpmv82O_pg&ust=1420947676734386”>http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CAcQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.upi.com%2FOdd_News%2F2015%2F01%2F09%2FKoalas-need-mittens-after-paws-burned-in-bush-fires%2F5431420824202%2F&ei=Yp-wVLrpG9jaoATXwIGoAw&bvm=bv.83339334,d.cGU&psig=AFQjCNH194Zx_27twekUxQclhpmv82O_pg&ust=1420947676734386

So are freedom fries called french fries again?

CL – Have you seen the movie “Sunset Limited”. You sound like “Black” (Tommy Lee Jones)

Sabreen–Everything is Obama’s fault. Except, of course, the improving economy, the falling unemployment rate, and the falling uninsured rate. All of those things are due to the gop’s stellar stewardship of the last six years, according to the turtle.

Damn, can’t remember how to post a picture.

Sabreen – no I’ve NOT seen that. I’ll try to get it!

glenn – yes, I loved Miss Graham’s attemtp to usurp all credit for PBO’s work. He must have been an obnoxious little boy/girl stealing other kids’ homework and cheating off their tests.

Funk – Just cremate me and put my ashes in a tupperware container.

choice – you so bad

Ad, that’s awesome.

glenn, Mark Shield was mocking Yertle the Turtle tonight for saying that the American people had spent 59 months anticipating a GOP Congress — thus the economic improvement last fall.

Sabreen, you get a filthy 3-day bender from me. I’ll be hungover for weeks.

Sabreen – I have Tupperware! I’ll come get what’s left of you! If I’m deceased, I’ll make sure you’re my heir.

Kes–I beg to differ with that goper. This country was founded by slave owners who yearned to be free.

kes – that is TOO FUNNY!

glenn – oh the humanity! Slave owners kept imprisoned by their imprisoning. Oh woe!

glenn, you’re right! You’d think — being from Arkansas — he’d know that historical fact.

kes – another loon heading up a segment of congress

Funk

Kes–love Mark Shield’s response to the turtle’s comments!

You guys see this? Koalas with burned paws from Aussie brushfires

Even koalas need a mani-pedi now and then…

Funk–I did see that picture. All I can say is awwww!

funk – how sad

poor things

Solution?

Awww…

CL – Okay. I’ll change the arrangements. I was going to let hubby keep my ashes in his gym bag cuz it’s not being used for anything else.

funk – chocolate?

Sabreen–your hubby can keep your ashes in the tupperware container in the gym bag.

Koalas with Mittens!!!

Sabreen – his gym bag? Oh, honey you deserve SO much more – Tupperware for sure!

Yay!

glenn – perfect compromise – Tupperware in the gym bag. Bam.

Hey Pink

kes – It’s just amazing how they have the nerve to say “the stupid”. They want credit for doing nothing.

Couldn’t resist

funk – LOVE the koalas!

Hi, everybody, will be hopping in and out, so pls excuse. Taking care of koalas!

Speaking of koalas, anyone know where PPO is? Is he still abroad for his brother’s funeral?

Acually pesky possums!

PPO – you and funk are on a koala bender tonight!

glenn – he’s snuck up on you…

You can send tiny cute mittens to koalas via this organization https://www.thedodo.com/koala-mittens-bushfire-sewing-920651467.html

Hi Pink!

OMG–PPO–As you can see, I was just asking about you, and here you are!

Thanks for that Funk

glenn, I’m right here in MEL, couldnt go to my brother’s funeral. Another bro. represented us

funk – I absolutely love the photo of the koala with the firefighter giving it water. But I am SO SORRY this is happening AGAIN.

Hey, PPO!

PPO – I did not know your brother had died, and I am SO sorry.

PPO–glad you’re here with us. How are you doing?

Pink, knows its all the time every year now

PPO, so sorry to hear about your brother.

CL and kes, please don’t worry. It happened mid-Nov.

PPO – we still feel for your loss.

Oh! I think I recall your having mentioned it then. I was afraid you’d lost another family member!

BRB, folks.

sorry too PPO

thank you CL, still grieving, but carrying on.

PBO holding koala:

I’m here late, so has anyone commented on the takedown of the 3 french terrorists?

Even though it’s blank, click on it.

Hiya PPO!

PPO – not yet, but I’m still reeling from the horror of the whole thing. I was stunned seeing CHILDREN running from the market.

Sabreen, this is how I want to have my funeral go.

So sorry PPO. I did not know your brother had passed.

funk – A Monty Python funeral? Perfect.

Putin holding reluctant Koala, which pissed on him!

PPO – that is simply perfect. So much for the manly man, Putin.

PPO – what is the sense of things in Australia? Do you have much of a Muslim presence there? I hope there is not backlash and retaliation.

That koala looks terrified.

AdLib – koalas bloomed in your absence.

Funk – You. are. insane.

Sabreen – I.Totally.Agree. Love you, funk, but you’re weird. It’s your charm though.

CL, well we had the hostage situation a few weeks ago when the gunman killed 2 people, but got taken down, rather like how the Kosher-deli guy was. We have a large Muslim population, not as large as some countries, but they’re 99% nice, law abiding people, with the usual few ratbags spoiling it for them.

PPO – we held a vigil with the Muslim community here for the people in Australia and the children in Pakistan. The Muslim community is heartbroken by both events. I am so sorry for that happening to you all!

Large Muslim population here in northwest Ohio too, PPO. Very wonderful people and have been here for generations. They’re sick about all this.

Holy Crap!!!

kes – the Muslims in CA have spoken out strongly against ISIL, against violence, against terrorism. Very little of what they say gets reported, but I’ve stood with them at events and spoken there, and they are devastated by it all.

LOL

how do you post pics?

Harleigh – I believe it’s magic that lets photos get posted. I’ve not figured out any other answer.

“Open image in new tab”, copy link, paste link into comment box

AdLib – That’s the picture I tried to get.

Right, CL! The local Muslims say that everyone criticizes moderate Muslims for failing to speak, out. But they do! As you say, it just doesn’t get reported.

Cl, that’s what is happening, I think, all over the world, but Good Muslims don’t get any press. every Islamic leader in Eurpoe has condemned the ‘barbarians’ who did this.

goin to watch bill maher, have a great week everybody

kes – I see the failure to report the Muslim real voice right up there with failure to report PBO’s accomplishments.

SLM – have a wonderful week, too. Bye!

Totally agree, CL. It doesn’t bleed, it doesn’t lead.

funk – I prefer the koalas.

CL, yes, that horrible left-wing media!

Like this beautiful picture of the upcoming Bush Clinton election

PPO – LOL!!!

Good night slm.

Bill just told Dubya that Poppy Bush is Bill’s real dad there.

bye, SLM

Night SLM

AdLib – perfect!!!

G’night, SLM!

Nice onw

“one”

BRB

Mitt said he’s running again.

Wind chill is now -15 F here. Just in case anyone wants to know…

AdLib – Jeb thinks Americans do.

Kes–brrrr

kes!!!! Batten the hatches!!! Minus 15???? That’s insane!

Sabreen wow! That’s unusual

Or Kes, or whatever…

Oh kes – I’m so sorry. Humans are not suppose to live in those temperatures, IMO.

Sabreen – Mitt is also being touted as a replacement for Barbara Boxer in the Senate in 2016. Pinup Boy Brown is apparently considering moving here to run, too.

Ad–do shrubs only “bloom” every eight years?

I sure hope not, AdLib! (On the question of another Bush prez). Fool us once, shame on you. Fool us twice, shame on us. Fool us three times and we are declared certified masochists.

CL – Surely you jest!

glenn – if they bloom every 8 years, can we bring in the Round Up every 7th year?

Sabreen – nope. Those two names are being floated as Boxer’s ‘replacement’.

Kes–I think we’ve been declared certified masochists already. Hence….the republican congress.

“In a world gone mad, 1 man takes it upon himself to drag us into Iraq 1…..more….time..

CL–round-up sounds good to me!

Funk – I heard Mitt is looking for a campaign manager. You interested?

You know it! I’ll do a GREAT job for him!

AdLib – dark blue? Not so much as we’d hope. GOP made some gains in state legislature. And we DID have Arnold! So never take it for granted.

When does Boxer step down?

I will wreak havoc if Scott Brown moves here. I promise that.

HA!

funk – she will be done 2016. Because it’s a prez election year, no GOP has much hope, but Feinstein is midterm – 2018, and that’s the one to worry about.

That’ll be fun to watch, AdLib!

AdLib – who will be the most likely candidate in 2016 for GOP nom?

CL, you think Kamala will run for her seat?

Funk–I believe Boxer’s term is up in 2016–she says she isn’t going to run for re-election, and since we’ve already had congressional elections, I”m assuming her term will be up in two more years. However, you know what they say about those who assume.

glenn – you’re correct, but it’s the 2018 vacancy I worry about. Until Dems actually understand they MUST VOTE, we are vulnerable.

Meg Whitman’s revving up her ATM card as we speak

And her credit limit is “Infinity.”

AdLib – Arnold got 18% of the total eligible vote, but that is ALL who voted at ALL in November! Dems suck at midterms, and if Feinstein retires at age 85, it will be serious.

Funk – Geez! They’re coming out the woodwork.

funk – OMG please do NOT bring up Whitman or I’ll bring up dinner.

AdLib – I[‘m just thinking Jebbie will capitulate to the Right to secure the nom.

CL–You know, I thought Dems understood how important it is to vote in midterms after the 2010 elections, but this past November proved me wrong. However, I’ve seen a couple of articles talking about how the progressives are trying to take back the Dem party, so maybe there is hope. I do think Dems have to get out and tout their accomplishments, instead of running from them and letting the repubs set the narrative.

Sometimes I wonder if Ohio Gov. John Kasich will end up being the dark horse nominee…

Ben Carson said “millions” of people want him to run.

In what country, Sabreen?

Scott Walker is going to run. He’s very very popular with the wing nut AND far right base

Ad, I think Gavin would save himself for Governor wouldn’t he? That’s a better stepping stone to President than Senator right?

I hope that drag out that audio of Walker’s phone conversation with the phony “Koch brother”…

Sabreen, he’s right. Me included!

Palin-Bachmann 2016 for jebus!

kes – In Carson country that happens in his head.

Funk–isn’t little scotty still running from criminal charges? Or, has he managed to throw all his subordinates under the bus?

Harleigh, I’d donate to that campaign just to help get it off the ground!

LOL! Sabreen!

Well greetings Planeteers…..

Glenn, not sure. I don’t see anything serious arising from his current issues.

MURPH!!!!

Hey, Murph!

Murph!! I was just going to ask about you. Are you staying warm?

CL, I’m wondering how much we are underestimating the effect of voter suppression in the last election

hey murph

I will go on record now and say ANYONE supporting Kamala Harris is making a HUGE mistake. She is a fraud, a showboater, and a duplicitous enemy of justice.

20 million more people voted for a Democrat for Senate than a Republican

Ad–Naw, the palindora box of lunacy is running on a dog sled!

CL, Ooo now you have me curious!

Hi Choice. Hi Kes, Hi Glenn, Hi Harleigh…cold, cold, cold here, ice storms this weekend. Fighting the battle of bursting water pipes

kes – I had forgotten how he got punked. I’m sure some enterprising Dem will tweet it.

funk – suppression was HUGE but NOT in CA, and only 18% of eiligable voters voted.

Hi Murph!

lowest turnout since 1943

Hi funk.

Harleigh, is that true? Wow

funk – she is not trustworthy. I’ve dealt with her directly, and she is a horrible person.

Good enough for me.

I read the same statistic, Harleigh!

Hiya Murph!

AdLib – suppression was not a factor in CA. And yet it was JUST as awful here.

Hello Sabreen and Ad Lib….

Funk–although those figures are true; it’s also true that because small states have the same representaton in the Senate as large states, that 20 million figure does not necessarily say that there was something “wrong” with the election. That’s why Dems do better in Presidential elections because it’s country wide instead of individual states.

CL – I remember PBO saying in 2010 not to give the keys back to Repubs. Maybe he needed to explain what he meant. That not voting IS giving the keys back.

AdLib – i cannot get over the rejection of this successful president. Had they embraced his accomplishments instead of fleeing they’d have won.

Glenn, you sound like you went to one of them there COMMIE UNITY Colleges!!

adlib – no shit…. grimes could not even admit she voted democrat!!! are you kiddin me??

Sabreen – told a friend his NOT voting is accepting the GOP, and his answer is that they’re both the same.

I hear that all the time too, CL.

This is terrible to say, but I think a lot of Dems are secretly relieved to be in the minority again.

Harleigh – a wise woman (Grimes isn’t) would have made hay out of Mitt instead of refusing to say she voted for PBO.

Can you elaborate, funk?

Funk–guilty as charged. Started out in one of them Commie Unity Colleges!

CL – I read that a fair number of people when asked couldn’t name the Vice President. So….

funk – there is a ‘victim mentality’ among Dems, yes.

Too many elected Democrats don’t seem comfortable using and wielding political power. They seem to prefer the opposition role. Just an impression

Sabreen – I’m less worried about that VP ignorance. It was true when I was a kid in the 50s, too.

funk – the Congressman who represents the district where my office is is one of those Dems who voted to overturn Dodd-Frank and kill ACA. He’s a jerk but DID get re-elected.

Ad, et al–I am so pissed off at those cowardly Dems who ran away fromthe POTUS and Dem accomplishments. Grimes especially. I hope Grimes never runs for another office. I thought she could really have beaten the turtle, instead she turned out to BE the turtle herself.

Funk….I know one Dem who is happy to be in the minority, Barack Obama….

Ad, true. But the GOP seems very comfortable in that role.

A woman made the comment that she’s not getting much of a cost of living raise because of President Obama. Someone said that it’s Congress who made the decision. Then this woman said well it was more before Obama became President. She didn’t know that we had a Dem Congress from 2006. People are clueless.

AdLib – I think that’s the most insightful comment I’ve read. It’s easier to be out and a naysayer than actually govern. Well done!

cl grimes was a big dissappointment

Harleigh – she sure was!

Murph, his constraints seemed to have melted away. One day there will be a Democrat who will learn that lesson while in the majority and govern like it.

AdLib – yup. I’ll buy the coward mentality.

Do you think Dems are perpetual hippies, maybe? Always anti-authority? (Even when they hold the authority?)

Ad–and that’s exactly the problem the repubs now have. They now have to govern, and have started out by trying to make Social Security look insolvent, so they can “fix” it.

CL – I meant if they don’t know who the VP is how are they going to know how the government works.

Kes, you are skirting around a truth there somewhere

Sabreen – we no longer know how democracy works. The end of Civics was the end of intelligent voting and citizenship.

Here is somthing that should shake us all up: a GOP insider friend (who hates where his party is going) told m that the big buzz right now at the state level is about FIXING THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE…TIE ELECTORAL VOTES TO CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICTS!!!!

Murph – we already had that effort in CA to do proportional Electoral college distribution. Horrible.

lots and lots of dems are stoners! Why just today I was a a stop sign over two hours waiting for it to turn green.

Harleigh – LOL!!!

When you add the perennial circle firing squad mentality to that (where we always attack our own), that is pretty disheartening…

Murph–the “fixing” of the electoral college has been floating around for a while now. But there’s no doubt in my mind that this gop congress will try very hard to get something passed for that, especially since they have already gerrymandered all the districts.

Yep Murph, I said a few years ago that the biggest race in America is the race for the GOP to bar the barn door before they can be permanently removed as enemies of the state

FUNK- I think that Obama’s people told the losing Senators that running away from THEIR record, the Dem record, is bringing disaster on their campaigns..and when they lost I don’t think obama had many kind words for any of them.

kes – there is also the circular firing squad of always reading one another’s ‘analyses’ and never learning anything new.

Murph, I don’t think the President has said a damn word to them

Harleigh, that would explain the slow walk to the polls in November… LOL!

Murph, funk, why the hell should he?

Good point, CL.

Funk–speaking of enemies of the state, anyone know why the “liberal” press didn’t cover Ms Graham’s statement that s/he would follow the lead of the Isreali prime minister rather than his/her own President? Why didn’t that get much more press?

It’s still startling how fast Dems ran from the single most popular national elected figure in the nation

All – I am now certifiably TOO DAMNED OLD to go through another period of GOP destruction of America. I seriously will think about leaving if they gain ground.

Glenn, Funk, Choice…the American Legislative Executive Council has model legislation for referendums in states that will alter the College and it has a the PR campaign ready to go. Big Money, Koch et. al. money is behind it.

I read that the DCCC only wanted PBO to make robo calls in Nov. They didn’t want him out campaigning. Funny thing is when he did go out the candidate won.

Murph: True

murph – Common Cause and League of Women Voters are gearing up NATIONALLY for a fight on electoral college.

CL!!! Take me too!!! LOL

Ad–Yeah, we talked about the turtle’s comments a while back here on VOX tonight. I still can’t understand why the press is not calling the liars out, though.

Glenn, the press expects nothing from the GOP, Dems make softer targets

Harleigh – you’re in darling. Hop on board!

My wife has made her Bush3 threat already…

funk – chuck todd said they don’t challenge GOP because they’re mean and retaliate. Dems better learn some of that.

Funk, PPO….I think Obama has decided that his legacy is HIS to make or lose at this point and he is willing to run over ANYONE, GOP or DEM to secure what he has done….I sense real confusion on all sides in regard to him.

WHEW! don’t wanna mis that boat!

Speaking of us aging activists – anyone seeing new and younger lefties on the horizon? Twenty-somethings?

funk – and what IS the Bush 3 threat? Vancouver? I’ll see you there.

Let’s all meet up on election night with a bottle of champagne in one hand and a plane ticket in the other!

CL, she won’t live in a country with a mormon prophet or a Bush as President

glenn, MSM is corporate owned. The dumb Chuck Toad said if he called out the Repub liars they wouldn’t come back on MTP. Of course, it could also be that he’s one of them.

Murph – I will say what I say about legacy – PBO isn’t worried about HIS legacy. He’s working for OURS.

Sabreen – all of the above.

Kes–I like that idea! Except can we go to a warmer place? Canada, although a wonderful country, is a little too cold.

Smart woman, Mrs. Funk is.

Choice – glad to hear about Common Cause and the League BUT to defeat this they are going to have elevate the level of understanding among voters to record levels…

glenn – come west. Vancouver is pretty mellow weather wise.

CL–define “mellow”.

Murph – that’s why we are gearing up now, to create talking points soon.

glenn – 50s, rain, almost no snow. Ever.

The left and the middle HAVE to RESIGN themselves to the same strategy that the ultra-right did in the late 60’s. Start from the bottom, take over all of the local offices and percolate up. Dems focus too much on federal elections. We

CL–KInda like Seattle?

Murph, If that’s the case I don’t blame him. I stopped watching MSNBC because the hosts bashed PBO non stop and no Dem came on in his defense. So yeah eff ’em.

glenn – very much like Seattle, yes.

Choice- yes, Our Legacy, but I think this man has a level of pride that pushes him…Michelle may be his real world manifestation of this…She is his avatar and I think she and he agreed that it was time to kick butt….

Well, kids. My son is in town from Madison for a good long holiday visit, so I’m gonna take my leave a little early and get the 20-something take on the world. Y’all have a wonderful weekend and stay warm!

CL–Okay, I’ll consider it, if you and Harleigh will be there.

We’ve had a 6-year lesson on how hard it is to bring about sweeping change from the top down. We struggle like crazy to 1 damn thing through Congress, while meanwhile JoJo and her 2nd amendment uncle are taking over school boards and election commissions

funk – Dems want instant gratification and a Big Daddy they can watch kick butt while they sip vintage wine from long stemmed glasses. Fuck THEM.

nite kes

G’night Kes. Enjoy your visit with your son.

atta girl

Night Kes!

Good night kes. Take care.

Good night kes! A big, virtual hug to you and to your son. Enjoy your visit!

whats wrong with drinking wine straight from the box?

Harleigh – nothing.

Funk- one of the reasons Dems do not focus on local elections is because the key to those used to be the unions and the Dems have not found a replacement….the GOP created the Tea Party. AND the Dems reject the discipline required to pull off local elections in the way the GOP has.

Harleigh, It’s hard on the neck!

Night Kes.

I think it’s a good time to follow Kes out the door and into my nice, warm bed. Take care everyone, and for those of you in the cold, stay warm.

Murph – solid analysis!!!

Murph, you know this better than anyone

‘night, kes

Night Glenn! Wearing your heels to bed?

Good night, glenn – lovely to see you! Keep snug, keep your socks on, and don’t let the frost nip your nose!

Thank you choice and yes, funk (and choice) I know this from hard experience here.

good night glenn

Funk–not the heels, only my socks!

Glenn- good night to you. Glad we said hellow.

Murph – I know you do.

Ad- we do not have enough billionaires…..

Good night glenn.

AdLib – our Lefty billionaires don’t fund local action. They have their OWN projects. That’s a problem

ACORN was the last organization outside the unions that did this stuff. And they got contract killed

murph – indeed, but we do have lots of liberal rich people who are suspicious of local folks. We’re more elitist than the Right.

ALL- signups for ACA are going great here….my long phone calls of a year ago are no longer necessary. No convinciing, just how to connect.

funk – don’t tell anyone, but there are state groups replacing ACORN now. All with different names. Shhhhh.

Our lefty billionaires don’t seem to understand that we liberals need a liberal media.

Murph, I noticed that here too. Even with some website snafus almost 200,000 have signed up in the state

good news, Murph, you should be proud of what you’ve done

murph – that’s GREAT!!! But tell those idiots to vote smarter next time.

AMEN, CL!

CL, their secret is safe with me cause I don’t know about it. Wouldn’t it be nice if more people did?

The GOP has numerous fields of the Rich to draw from…..the individual billionaire, the millionaire organizations, the corporations jumping into the PACS…the only way we survive is to wean our voters from TV which is where most of the money goes.

George Lakoff called out lefty billionaires/millionaires in 2004 for being so damned cheap and controlling. the Right throws gobs of money at groups and demands no accounting for it. We have to do 25 page forms for $10,000.

AdLib – yup. About right. No one on the Right has noticed because they can’t read.

Funk – Killed by Dems and Repubs

Yep

Murph – That’s great.

Choice— and in spite of this our legslature refuses to consider Medicaid expanision. This last year our hospitals lost more than 100 million in recoverable charges thanks to this….they wll sacifice their constituents and then convince them that the Dems have done this to them.

Well folks – I deal with several homeless folks as you know, and one is 30 minutes away in rehab, so I go visit him every week. I am toddling off to bed to get rest for that venture. See you all next week I hope!

folks I gotta roll too. Great seeing all of you

ludicrous, Murph.

Happy new year!

‘Night funk!

Good night, funk and CL. stay warm

Ad- they control the airwaves where it counts and in our video culture they win over a lot of people who should know better.

PPO – YOU stay cool and fire free!

Choice and Funk…good touching base with you.

AdLib – you, too!

Thanks, CL. we’re OK just now. raining!

PPO – that’s GREAT!

PPO…yeah, ludicrous indeed.

CL – Good night and take care!

going down to 65 here tonite, time to open the winders

Nite Funk. Be good!

nite folks

AD, I thoght you were being flooded in CA with superstorms and that. Didn’t much get to LA?

Harleigh – Somewhere I read karma is a bitch. Keep rubbing in your good weather and see what happens.

Yes, Ad, just a guy with horns and a big fork to throw ’em on the barbie! Good!

Well, I’m out too. Take care folks.

Ad….I have really been pushing people to use these terms: Contemporary Modern Islam vs. Jihadist Islam. Modern Muslims vs. Jihadists. Not all Muslims are the same.

Ad, LOL!

Good night, Sabreen . take care

Good night Sabreen.

Careful, Ad! Next thing you’ll be saying that not all Republicans are greedy, manipulative arseholes!

Ad lib- true, but a piece of what I am saying applies to Muslims as well. One of my doctors is a Muslim (actually three of them are but I know this one very well). It is he who made this point to me. Modern Muslims have to make this distinction and do so out lout Why? It makes clear that they recognize that Islam is the soil from which extremist, zealous, doctrinaire jihadist grew and which continues to nurture and protect it. AND they have to point out the nature of modern, enlightenment Islam but they fear doing so.

Ad, you’re right. It seems every generation needs to have a boogy man to fear and loathe. If only they realise that the other side look at them the same way.

Well, I’m away to get the newspaper and some cheesy comestibles, so I’ll say good night to all and have a very Happy and Healthy 2015

Ad: Contemporary Islam or Islamic Modernism has been described as “the first Muslim ideological response” attempting to reconcile Islamic faith with modern Western values such as nationalism, democracy, civil rights, gender equality, secularism, rationality,, general equality, progress and freedom of religion. It features a “critical reexamination of the classical conceptions and methods of jurisprudence”, a new contextual and evolutionary approach to Islamic theology and Quranic exegesis/study. This movement has its roots in the 19th century renovation of Islamic thought called the salafiyya movement Modernism differs from secularism in that it insists on the importance of religious faith in both private and public life, while still embracing contemporary European institutions, social processes and values.

PPO- glad to have had the chance to say hi! mate!

Murph, thanks. See ya, Cobber!

PPO You too friend from afar.

Ad- I agree but what my doctor friend was pushing is the need for honest on all sides. One point he made is that it is just as hard for a modern Muslim to define the nature of Islamic modernity as it is to condemn Jihadism.

I take it that Beatlex is not really here.

Ad, I agree. But what my doc and friend is pushing is more than understanding where hostility toward muslims comes from and more than just being tolerant. He is walking on both sides of the street…

It is and it is necessary.

Ad…yes which is why my friend was driven (nicely) from his Mosque two years ago and is now the head of it….growing awareness.

My doc’s mosque is an interesting mix of the very well to do and the labouring class (most new immigrants) and you can guess now the modernist/jihadist dialogue breaks down along those lines in the mosque. My friend has broken that only honest dialogue within that community can generate the energy necessary to be seen by the wider community as being willing to grapple with a blight on their name.

And that is enormously difficult…the Islamic communty is deeply, deeply divided with fracture lines that we cannot even begin to name.

I have a feel for thm because of my relationship with Naseer.

Well. I am heading to bed. Awoke this morning to broken pipes and two of my dogs deciding to take on a nest of racoons (stupid dogs).

Take care.

and yes it is daunting….my eyes have been widened.