Vox Populi – 12-5-2014

Hi, Beatlex, Adlib. I’ll be in and out, but yes, quite a week for many reasons.

pinkpantheroz

I do feel, now that POTUS is pushing it, there will be progress in the relations between minorities and the police. there of course will always be the redneck element everywhere, but it’s at least a good start.

pinkpantheroz

Good evening, Ad, Beatlex, PPO. I’m very sad for my country tonight. I also see hope, but mostly I’m sad.

glenn

Hey glenn!

pinkpantheroz

With all that has gone on lately, with the killing of black people by the police,It hit me that the President can add to his legacy over this.Of course we cannot stamp out bigotry,but he can do plenty about how the country is policed,It is already happening.I wish Eric Holder would stay and help the President affect some positive change.What the the R’s going to do about it

beatlex

beatlex, don’t ecpect the GOP to do anything. It is in their political interests to keep the fear and loathing factor on High

pinkpantheroz

oops, spelling!

pinkpantheroz

Beatlex–Here’s what I”d like to see Eric Holder do. Arrest Cliven Bundy. If he resists, remind people that many leaders on the right are saying that one shouldn’t resist arrest. Whatever it takes to place Bundy under arrest, should be done. That would give me hope.

glenn

Good point, glenn.

pinkpantheroz

Sir AdLib!

beatlex

one would be aghast if a similar situation happened in a black community and a black militia backed up the offender. We know what would happen in that circumstance, don’t we?

pinkpantheroz

PPO–I just can’t wrap my mind around this blatant, uncompromising hypocrisy of the people on the right. How can you talk about “outside agitators” in Ferguson when bundy brought in outsiders? How can you talk about not resisting arrest when bundy resisted arrest with armed thugs surrounding him? How can you talk about an unarmed man’s criminal record as “proof” that he deserved what he got, when bundy has defied numerous court orders? In my book, that makes him a criminal. Why isn’t bundy in jail or dead?

glenn

Glenn-agreed!

beatlex

you got that right, glenn. And now GJs are backing the racists.

pinkpantheroz

Start the petition, Ad!

pinkpantheroz

I’m still gobsmacked that a situation is in the US, in open carry states, that a white guy walking the streets goes unaccosted, but a black man doing the same is immediately assumed to be a criminal and gets creamed.

pinkpantheroz

BRB

pinkpantheroz

Ad–In many places they have citizen review boards–in fact, they had one in Key West when I lived there. I’m not sure it’s still operating, because it had no “enforcement” powers, and whatever the CRB said, the police ignored. There is a large minority population in Key West, living in what is known as “Bahama Village”, and the police presence and activites there are the same as in any large city in the US–IOW, very heavy on “policing” the black areas of town; not so much on other areas.

glenn

Ad–I know you’re correct in your analysis of the righties, but where are the Dems with backbones? I’m seriously considering writing an open letter to Eric Holder urging him to arrest bundy, wherever, whenever, and however he can. Perhaps a SWAT raid. Too bad if bundy’s family gets hurt–if bundy had taught them better, they wouldn’t have gotten hurt.

glenn

What about that 12 yr old boy? They said they told him 3 times! to drop it.That kid was dead before that cop got his door open

beatlex

Evening all. Our country is officially crap!!

sillylittleme

Beatlex–it’s so sad, isn’t it? And, that policeman who shot him was let go from another police force because he had issues.

glenn

Evening, SLM. I, too, am appalled at what our country has become.

glenn

Read today about another case in AZ. The man was carrying a McDonald’s bag. So now you can get shot for bringing fast food home.

sillylittleme

SLM–He was shot outside of his home?

glenn

Hello Planeteers. #ICantBreathe

sabreen60

At his doorstep in front of his small children

sillylittleme

Evening Sabreen–I can’t breathe either.

glenn

Looking for the article, Glenn

sillylittleme

Evening Sabreen

sillylittleme

Ad–yes, the “charter” or whatever it is for the CRBs need to be written correctly; that’s for sure.

glenn

Ad – disagree no protection would make his arrest easier.

sillylittleme

beatlex – I watched the tape of Tamir Rice being shot to death. The cop shot him in less that 2 seconds. The cops lied before they knew a tape was out there.

sabreen60